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Diet Season is Over
Folks,
The big Low Carb marketing blast you saw in January was part of the regularly scheduled "diet season" which comes around every year after people put on their holiday 10 pounds. It ends every year, like clockwork, with the Superbowl. Around the same time gyms clear out as all the people who signed up for memberships stop coming. If you're still dieting now, you are one of the very small percentage of people who are--and there are not enough of you to make it worth while for supermarkets to clear out a whole aisle for you. Fortunately, the low carb veggies, meats, and cheeses will always be available at the store, and for those of you who like the bars and other products, they're still there too, just stuck away in different aisles. But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who went on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very few are still at it six weeks later. . . . -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm |
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Diet Season is Over
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:14:53 -0500, "Jenny"
wrote: Folks, The big Low Carb marketing blast you saw in January was part of the regularly scheduled "diet season" which comes around every year after people put on their holiday 10 pounds. It ends every year, like clockwork, with the Superbowl. Around the same time gyms clear out as all the people who signed up for memberships stop coming. Sure have. If you're still dieting now, you are one of the very small percentage of people who are--and there are not enough of you to make it worth while for supermarkets to clear out a whole aisle for you. Saw this yesterday. Gone, gone gone. But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who went on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very few are still at it six weeks later. . . . Why is that? Several reasons. One, no real commitment to the realities of lowered food consumption. Two, they know that book diets fail at extravagant rates. Three, no change in their relationships with food. Others? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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Diet Season is Over
Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote:
::: But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who went ::: on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very few are ::: still at it six weeks later. . . . :: :: Why is that? :: :: Several reasons. One, no real commitment to the realities of lowered :: food consumption. Two, they know that book diets fail at extravagant :: rates. Three, no change in their relationships with food. I agree with your reasons 1 and 3. However, number two makes no sense. Diet books do nothing. Dieters have to do the work. |
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Diet Season is Over
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:50:06 -0500, "Roger Zoul"
wrote: Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote: ::: But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who went ::: on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very few are ::: still at it six weeks later. . . . :: :: Why is that? :: :: Several reasons. One, no real commitment to the realities of lowered :: food consumption. Two, they know that book diets fail at extravagant :: rates. Three, no change in their relationships with food. I agree with your reasons 1 and 3. However, number two makes no sense. Diet books do nothing. Dieters have to do the work. When you go on book diet (Atkins, Ornish), one usually checks around. What they find is a constant stream of failures, walking living obese failures. Kinda takes the shine off, dontcha think? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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Diet Season is Over
Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:14:53 -0500, "Jenny" wrote: Folks, The big Low Carb marketing blast you saw in January was part of the regularly scheduled "diet season" which comes around every year after people put on their holiday 10 pounds. It ends every year, like clockwork, with the Superbowl. Around the same time gyms clear out as all the people who signed up for memberships stop coming. Sure have. If you're still dieting now, you are one of the very small percentage of people who are--and there are not enough of you to make it worth while for supermarkets to clear out a whole aisle for you. Saw this yesterday. Gone, gone gone. But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who went on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very few are still at it six weeks later. . . . Why is that? Several reasons. One, no real commitment to the realities of lowered food consumption. Two, they know that book diets fail at extravagant rates. Three, no change in their relationships with food. Others? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. .... (4) Food industry's multi-level marketing strategies. (5) Increasing trend for bulk food purchases. (6) Advancements in the culinary arts (Emeril Lagasse, Oliver Twist, Food Network et al). (7) Deep rooted cultural ties with food and eating. Good discussion :-) Now lets keep this up without the insults. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Mu ;-) (2) Report Mu to his ISP ;-) (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147 |
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Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:14:53 -0500, "Jenny" wrote: Folks, The big Low Carb marketing blast you saw in January was part of the regularly scheduled "diet season" which comes around every year after people put on their holiday 10 pounds. It ends every year, like clockwork, with the Superbowl. Around the same time gyms clear out as all the people who signed up for memberships stop coming. Sure have. If you're still dieting now, you are one of the very small percentage of people who are--and there are not enough of you to make it worth while for supermarkets to clear out a whole aisle for you. Saw this yesterday. Gone, gone gone. But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who went on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very few are still at it six weeks later. . . . Why is that? Several reasons. One, no real commitment to the realities of lowered food consumption. Two, they know that book diets fail at extravagant rates. Three, no change in their relationships with food. Others? On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 11:09:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote: (4) Food industry's multi-level marketing strategies. (5) Increasing trend for bulk food purchases. (6) Advancements in the culinary arts (Emeril Lagasse, Oliver Twist, Food Network et al). (7) Deep rooted cultural ties with food and eating. (8) Increased information means truth about diets easier to find, more discouraging. (9) Food more and more being fine tuned to our palates. (10) Availability of "international" foods increasing. (11) People still are in denial over the medical and health issues related to obesity. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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Diet Season is Over
Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote:
:: On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:50:06 -0500, "Roger Zoul" :: wrote: :: ::: Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote: :::::: But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who :::::: went on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very :::::: few are still at it six weeks later. . . . ::::: ::::: Why is that? ::::: ::::: Several reasons. One, no real commitment to the realities of ::::: lowered food consumption. Two, they know that book diets fail at ::::: extravagant rates. Three, no change in their relationships with ::::: food. ::: ::: I agree with your reasons 1 and 3. However, number two makes no ::: sense. Diet books do nothing. Dieters have to do the work. :: :: When you go on book diet (Atkins, Ornish), one usually checks :: around. What they find is a constant stream of failures, walking :: living obese failures. :: :: Kinda takes the shine off, dontcha think? Just points out that making lasting changes in one's habits and lifestyle is really hard to do. There are few easy solutions. IMO, diet books give answers. The solution has to come from the dieter in terms of lasting change. |
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Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:50:06 -0500, "Roger Zoul" wrote: Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote: ::: But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who went ::: on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very few are ::: still at it six weeks later. . . . :: :: Why is that? :: :: Several reasons. One, no real commitment to the realities of lowered :: food consumption. Two, they know that book diets fail at extravagant :: rates. Three, no change in their relationships with food. I agree with your reasons 1 and 3. However, number two makes no sense. Diet books do nothing. Dieters have to do the work. When you go on book diet (Atkins, Ornish), one usually checks around. What they find is a constant stream of failures, walking living obese failures. Kinda takes the shine off, dontcha think? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. Folks understandably find comfort in excuses. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Mu ;-) (2) Report Mu to his ISP ;-) (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147 |
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Or maybe they just don't care huh? People are people and things don't
usually get their attention until it affects them personally in some way, but being a student of human nature and an authority on everything, you already know that right? :-) -- Cheri Type 2, no meds for now. Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote in message ... (11) People still are in denial over the medical and health issues related to obesity. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote:
Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:14:53 -0500, "Jenny" wrote: Folks, The big Low Carb marketing blast you saw in January was part of the regularly scheduled "diet season" which comes around every year after people put on their holiday 10 pounds. It ends every year, like clockwork, with the Superbowl. Around the same time gyms clear out as all the people who signed up for memberships stop coming. Sure have. If you're still dieting now, you are one of the very small percentage of people who are--and there are not enough of you to make it worth while for supermarkets to clear out a whole aisle for you. Saw this yesterday. Gone, gone gone. But if you ask around among your friends and acquaintances who went on diets on January first, you'll probably find that very few are still at it six weeks later. . . . Why is that? Several reasons. One, no real commitment to the realities of lowered food consumption. Two, they know that book diets fail at extravagant rates. Three, no change in their relationships with food. Others? On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 11:09:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote: (4) Food industry's multi-level marketing strategies. (5) Increasing trend for bulk food purchases. (6) Advancements in the culinary arts (Emeril Lagasse, Oliver Twist, Food Network et al). (7) Deep rooted cultural ties with food and eating. (8) Increased information means truth about diets easier to find, more discouraging. (9) Food more and more being fine tuned to our palates. (10) Availability of "international" foods increasing. (11) People still are in denial over the medical and health issues related to obesity. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. (12) Atheism Jesus teaches as written in Matthew 4: 1Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. 2After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread." 4Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.' " May God add his blessings to the writing of His Word here within Usenet. Amen FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Mu ;-) (2) Report Mu to his ISP ;-) (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147 |
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