Re: week3

[Emme]

If you don't weigh in this week, it makes it even more difficult if you have
another bad week to go in and weigh in. My suggestion: Weigh in and don't
look at the scale or your book. For me tomorrow never comes...it always
seems to be a day away...that's one of the reasons I'm here.

I've suffered from depression where I couldn't get out of bed and have had
the days where I've gone out of my way to eat everything in sight...even if
it was something I'd usually never eat in a million years.

I empathize, I really do. I just think you're doing yourself a dis-service
if you don't go. It's like you're putting yourself on the back burner and
you deserve much better than that.

Emme
"Tammie Jellison" > wrote in message
...
> Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from
depression
> and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
> while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
> always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my life
> from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow,
however,
> is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one bad
> week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I
will
> be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would
like
> to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at the
> same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on
the
> horse! tam
>
>

[Elaine Kirkham]

I've been going through a very bad patch & eating almost out of control. I am
just playing it by ear and not worrying about it too much. What I am not doing
is stopping going to my WW meetings. I will eventually settle down & get back to
program, but I will not punish myself for stress eating.
Elaine K
331.4/194.2/179

Tammie Jellison wrote:

> Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from depression
> and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
> while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
> always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my life
> from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow, however,
> is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one bad
> week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I will
> be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would like
> to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at the
> same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on the
> horse! tam

[Joyce]

Not weighing isn't going to make you feel any better, it only postpones the
inevitable. By holding yourself accountable, you can face reality and move on.
Weighing in and seeing those results, whether good or bad, is something that YOU
can control. It might make you feel bad for a minute or so, but think how
wonderful you will feel when you can tackle the problem at hand. I don't know
about you, but not facing those scales is what led me to becoming overweight in
the first place. It was easy to fool myself when not having a definitive idea as
to where I really was.

I have been through severe depression twice. Both times were bad enough that I
could not leave the house alone, the most recent bout left me almost totally
non-functional. I started ww while trying to overcome the depression, and was
successful with both! Taking control of my eating and weight gave me a sense of
accomplishment, it put me in charge. I didn't have to rely on anyone else, I
didn't have to concern myself with others letting me down. Changing this way of
thinking helped me tremendously. My happiness is not dependent on others, I have
to be happy with myself first ... only then will the rest of my life fall into
place. How did I accomplish it? First I sought medical advice, then I worked on
finding me. There are a lot of tough lessons to be learned, but they had to be
faced. I needed to learn what was really important in life and acceptance, if I
couldn't change something then why should I put so much effort into worrying about
it? Worrying only made the condition worse, letting go seemed to give me back the
power. Exercise is also extremely helpful for depression, something in the
process that triggers the good stuff in the brain (sorry, I can't medically
explain this - but it does work!).

Weightloss and depression can be conquered successfully at the same time, I have
proven that. It didn't happen overnight, it was a lengthy process. I am no
longer on any depression meds, I am functional, I am happy, I am free. I am also
95 pounds lighter. <g>

Hang in there Tammie, you will be ok. If you are having serious problems I do
hope you will seek the advice of a trained medical professional. There is a lot
of good help available, you don't have to suffer.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:26:04 GMT, "Tammie Jellison" >
wrote:

>Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from depression
>and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
>while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
>always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my life
>from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow, however,
>is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one bad
>week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I will
>be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would like
>to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at the
>same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on the
>horse! tam
>

[Tammie Jellison]

Joyce, thank you so much for your inpiring story. It take's a special
person to go on a limb and help a total stranger. You make it sound so easy
but I know it will be a challenge every minute of every day. I still havent
wieghed myself, I guess I should just face the reality and move on. I know
that exercize is benificail for depression but the kicker is that is is hard
to do when you are depressed. Just getting out of bed is a challenge some
days. I dont know why it works either but I know it does. As far as
proffesional help I have been dealing aggressively with my depression with
councelling and medication for over a year now, I just get occasional
relapses. I will read your letter over and again for inspiration and
courage, Thanks Joyce for taking the time to care and get me going in the
right direction. Tammie
"Joyce" > wrote in message
...
> Not weighing isn't going to make you feel any better, it only postpones
the
> inevitable. By holding yourself accountable, you can face reality and
move on.
> Weighing in and seeing those results, whether good or bad, is something
that YOU
> can control. It might make you feel bad for a minute or so, but think how
> wonderful you will feel when you can tackle the problem at hand. I don't
know
> about you, but not facing those scales is what led me to becoming
overweight in
> the first place. It was easy to fool myself when not having a definitive
idea as
> to where I really was.
>
> I have been through severe depression twice. Both times were bad enough
that I
> could not leave the house alone, the most recent bout left me almost
totally
> non-functional. I started ww while trying to overcome the depression, and
was
> successful with both! Taking control of my eating and weight gave me a
sense of
> accomplishment, it put me in charge. I didn't have to rely on anyone
else, I
> didn't have to concern myself with others letting me down. Changing this
way of
> thinking helped me tremendously. My happiness is not dependent on others,
I have
> to be happy with myself first ... only then will the rest of my life fall
into
> place. How did I accomplish it? First I sought medical advice, then I
worked on
> finding me. There are a lot of tough lessons to be learned, but they had
to be
> faced. I needed to learn what was really important in life and
acceptance, if I
> couldn't change something then why should I put so much effort into
worrying about
> it? Worrying only made the condition worse, letting go seemed to give me
back the
> power. Exercise is also extremely helpful for depression, something in
the
> process that triggers the good stuff in the brain (sorry, I can't
medically
> explain this - but it does work!).
>
> Weightloss and depression can be conquered successfully at the same time,
I have
> proven that. It didn't happen overnight, it was a lengthy process. I am
no
> longer on any depression meds, I am functional, I am happy, I am free. I
am also
> 95 pounds lighter. <g>
>
> Hang in there Tammie, you will be ok. If you are having serious problems
I do
> hope you will seek the advice of a trained medical professional. There is
a lot
> of good help available, you don't have to suffer.
>
> Joyce
> WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
> current weight: 133.3
> Lifetime: 4/4/03
>
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:26:04 GMT, "Tammie Jellison"
>
> wrote:
>
> >Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from
depression
> >and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
> >while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
> >always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my
life
> >from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow,
however,
> >is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one bad
> >week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I
will
> >be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would
like
> >to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at the
> >same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on
the
> >horse! tam
> >
>

[Joyce]

You're right Tammie, it is a challenge every minute of your life. But it is also
a challenge that can be conquered. I still have my moments, I know my limitations
and have accepted them. I can't *do* crowds, I can't do escalators - both throw
me into panic attacks. So I avoid them if able. Little by little I try to get
past those hurdles too, one step at a time. Last week I braved the escalator up
with my daughter ... sounds silly but it was a major victory for me. Going down
.... nope, not brave enough to try that yet. <g>

I don't think the exercise is hard to do when depressed, the hard part is to
start. You just have to tell yourself to do it, tell yourself to quit making
excuses. I don't mean to sound harsh at all, this was the tactic I had to take
with myself. I talked a lot to myself. I figured if I was good at talking myself
out of things, then I should be equally as good at talking myself into things. It
worked. <g> I remember those days of not wanting to get out of bed, sometimes I
still have them. I get out of bed though, might only make it to the couch - but
at least if I make it that far it doesn't take long to move to the next step.
Baby steps dear, that's all it takes. Take things a few minutes at a time, then
it doesn't look overly difficult.

I am thrilled that you are getting help for your problem. Have you begun to see
any improvements? I know it isn't a fast process, and I have no idea what
personal issues you are dealing with. The first time I went through it, it took
close to 2 years for me to come back. This last time I was on meds for 18 months
- took about 4 months of weaning off of them. The occassional relapses do happen,
that's when I start talking to myself again. <G> I tell myself that I know what
is happening, and I know how to handle it. I don't tell myself to get over it,
but I will tell myself to get through it. I've also found that speaking up for
myself works wonders. When people try to pile too much on me, I let them know. I
tell them I am not willing to go back to where I was 2 years ago and I won't allow
them to do that to me. They get the hint pretty darn fast. <g> It works for me,
for now anyway.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:30:48 GMT, "Tammie Jellison" >
wrote:

>Joyce, thank you so much for your inpiring story. It take's a special
>person to go on a limb and help a total stranger. You make it sound so easy
>but I know it will be a challenge every minute of every day. I still havent
>wieghed myself, I guess I should just face the reality and move on. I know
>that exercize is benificail for depression but the kicker is that is is hard
>to do when you are depressed. Just getting out of bed is a challenge some
>days. I dont know why it works either but I know it does. As far as
>proffesional help I have been dealing aggressively with my depression with
>councelling and medication for over a year now, I just get occasional
>relapses. I will read your letter over and again for inspiration and
>courage, Thanks Joyce for taking the time to care and get me going in the
>right direction. Tammie
>"Joyce" > wrote in message
...
>> Not weighing isn't going to make you feel any better, it only postpones
>the
>> inevitable. By holding yourself accountable, you can face reality and
>move on.
>> Weighing in and seeing those results, whether good or bad, is something
>that YOU
>> can control. It might make you feel bad for a minute or so, but think how
>> wonderful you will feel when you can tackle the problem at hand. I don't
>know
>> about you, but not facing those scales is what led me to becoming
>overweight in
>> the first place. It was easy to fool myself when not having a definitive
>idea as
>> to where I really was.
>>
>> I have been through severe depression twice. Both times were bad enough
>that I
>> could not leave the house alone, the most recent bout left me almost
>totally
>> non-functional. I started ww while trying to overcome the depression, and
>was
>> successful with both! Taking control of my eating and weight gave me a
>sense of
>> accomplishment, it put me in charge. I didn't have to rely on anyone
>else, I
>> didn't have to concern myself with others letting me down. Changing this
>way of
>> thinking helped me tremendously. My happiness is not dependent on others,
>I have
>> to be happy with myself first ... only then will the rest of my life fall
>into
>> place. How did I accomplish it? First I sought medical advice, then I
>worked on
>> finding me. There are a lot of tough lessons to be learned, but they had
>to be
>> faced. I needed to learn what was really important in life and
>acceptance, if I
>> couldn't change something then why should I put so much effort into
>worrying about
>> it? Worrying only made the condition worse, letting go seemed to give me
>back the
>> power. Exercise is also extremely helpful for depression, something in
>the
>> process that triggers the good stuff in the brain (sorry, I can't
>medically
>> explain this - but it does work!).
>>
>> Weightloss and depression can be conquered successfully at the same time,
>I have
>> proven that. It didn't happen overnight, it was a lengthy process. I am
>no
>> longer on any depression meds, I am functional, I am happy, I am free. I
>am also
>> 95 pounds lighter. <g>
>>
>> Hang in there Tammie, you will be ok. If you are having serious problems
>I do
>> hope you will seek the advice of a trained medical professional. There is
>a lot
>> of good help available, you don't have to suffer.
>>
>> Joyce
>> WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
>> current weight: 133.3
>> Lifetime: 4/4/03
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:26:04 GMT, "Tammie Jellison"
>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from
>depression
>> >and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
>> >while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
>> >always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my
>life
>> >from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow,
>however,
>> >is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one bad
>> >week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I
>will
>> >be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would
>like
>> >to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at the
>> >same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on
>the
>> >horse! tam
>> >
>>
>

[Tammie Jellison]

Thanks Diane, your right I do have comfort foods that are not terribly
fattening. I think that is a fabulous idea, if comfort is what I need I
should be able to get it from foods that dont sabatage my efforts so badly.
I will let you know. Thanks, Tam
"Diane M" > wrote in message
. com...
> I'm bipolar, which means I alternate between depression and hypomania.
When
> I'm down it's hard to not eat. I want the "energy" that sugar brings. I
> want the comfort that I get when I eat certain foods. It seems to be
> getting easier as time goes by. I'm starting to see comfort foods in a
new
> light. Instead of a hot fudge sundae, I eat something lighter. The one
> thing that seems to work best to keep me from eating is exercise. It
> reduces the depression and decreases my appetite. And you're right - as
> long as you don't give up, you'll make it. :-)
>
> Diane
>
> "Tammie Jellison" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from
> depression
> > and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
> > while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
> > always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my
life
> > from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow,
> however,
> > is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one
bad
> > week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I
> will
> > be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would
> like
> > to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at
the
> > same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on
> the
> > horse! tam
> >
> >
>
>

[Tammie Jellison]

Thanks Nathalie, I would encourage you to see a doctor. I was exactly like
you and wouldnt go to the doctor. I was scared he would tell me it was
nothing, that I should just smarten up. I went to see a counseller first
who talked to my doctor for me and when I went to see him it was a lot
easier. The change it made was incredible, I felt like me agian. I cant
beleive that I suffered so long without doing anything. This has been an
issue for me since I was in grade school, thats how long it took me to get
up the nerve and accept that it was beyond my control.
I will stand up again and you and the group will hear about my triumphs as
well! Thanks for your response, Tam
"Nathalie W" > wrote in message
...
> Though I have not officially diagnosed with depression (too proud to see a
> doctor) I have had extremely difficult episodes in my life as well,
> Tammie... I have been struggling for a very long time. But I have to tell
> you, this is the first time I have actually started a kind of 'diet' and
> kept on it. Not every day, (I have set-backs!) but still, I think that the
> WW system is one of the only systems that make you gain a little of the
> control back. It 's difficult to express, but in a way, having this points
> system gives me some kind of stability. I have even started improving in
> other areas in my life (like clutter)! I sincerely hope you can get back
OP.
> You 'll see, every time you fall, you 'll stand up again, and stand for a
> little longer. And don't forget to come here for support, we 're here for
> you! This is one of the only places where I can be myself and know that I
> 'll be understood. I hope you will feel the same way.
> Hugs,
> --
> Nathalie from Belgium
> 134.1/103.1/minigoal 102.3 Goal 68 Kg
> 295.6/227.3/minigoal 225.6/Goal 150 pounds
> SWWC 238/227.3/226
>
> "Tammie Jellison" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from
> depression
> > and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
> > while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
> > always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my
life
> > from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow,
> however,
> > is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one
bad
> > week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I
> will
> > be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would
> like
> > to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at
the
> > same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on
> the
> > horse! tam
> >
> >
>
>

[Tammie Jellison]

Emme, you are right, I have weighed myself and it really wasnt as bad as I
had anticipated. I gained my loss from the previous week but thats all.
Thanks for your help. Tam
"Emme" > wrote in message
...
> If you don't weigh in this week, it makes it even more difficult if you
have
> another bad week to go in and weigh in. My suggestion: Weigh in and
don't
> look at the scale or your book. For me tomorrow never comes...it always
> seems to be a day away...that's one of the reasons I'm here.
>
> I've suffered from depression where I couldn't get out of bed and have had
> the days where I've gone out of my way to eat everything in sight...even
if
> it was something I'd usually never eat in a million years.
>
> I empathize, I really do. I just think you're doing yourself a
dis-service
> if you don't go. It's like you're putting yourself on the back burner and
> you deserve much better than that.
>
> Emme
> "Tammie Jellison" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from
> depression
> > and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
> > while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
> > always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my
life
> > from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow,
> however,
> > is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one
bad
> > week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I
> will
> > be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would
> like
> > to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at
the
> > same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on
> the
> > horse! tam
> >
> >
>
>

[Tammie Jellison]

Part of depression is about punishing yourself, that is probably the worst
part of it. I have not quit the program, I am doing it at home on my own
and will get on the horse again. I try every minute of every day not to be
hard on myself and not worrying, it really isnt that simple. Thanks for your
support, Tam
"Elaine Kirkham" > wrote in message
...
> I've been going through a very bad patch & eating almost out of control. I
am
> just playing it by ear and not worrying about it too much. What I am not
doing
> is stopping going to my WW meetings. I will eventually settle down & get
back to
> program, but I will not punish myself for stress eating.
> Elaine K
> 331.4/194.2/179
>
> Tammie Jellison wrote:
>
> > Totally crappy week I am not even weighing today. I suffer from
depression
> > and really need to work on my emotionally based eating. Every once in a
> > while I have a bad week depression wise and I eat to medicate myself, I
> > always have. Anyway this was the week, I had lots of let downs in my
life
> > from people who supposedly love me and it took its tole. Tomorrow,
however,
> > is a new day and with a process thats takes this long to complete one
bad
> > week is a drop in the ocean right? As long as I dont quit altogether I
will
> > be ok. Any other people out there suffering from depression? I would
like
> > to hear about your experiences trying to lose weight and get happy at
the
> > same time. Congrat to all who lost this week, you inspire me to stay on
the
> > horse! tam
>