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Old July 21st, 2004, 12:48 PM
Penelope Baker
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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Penelope Baker wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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||| Penelope Baker wrote:
||||| That there are some men the OP knows who would otherwise be very
||||| interested. Nothing more, nothing less.
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||| And so begins the roller coaster of her trying to do things to
||| satisfy these men...
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||| This lady is naturally thin. That's a fact.
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|| That's a huge assumption, don't'cha think? Lots of us, especially
|| those of us here, have changed our appearance based on satisfying
|| our own desires, including those for companionship. To reduce the
|| desire to have a house, home, and family to 'trying to satisfy men'
|| seems a bit...hasty and limiting in scope...?

Heck no. You're making the assumption. And what do you mean by reducing

the
desire to have a house, home and family...are you suggesting she can't do
those thing as she is now and without a man?



Don't read things into my posts please. What I'm saying is that we do not
know her motivations; it could be what I suggested, it could be other
things. But like all things in life, to effect an outcome, one must
determine whether or not effecting a change is needed.

I have nothing further to say on this matter.

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Old July 21st, 2004, 01:35 PM
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This is a very nice person we are talking about -- she is very into
health, and holistic stuff, and I don't think she has an eating
disorder.


I'm not sure why this matters - that she is a very nice person...does
that somehow mean that you need to set her straight for her own good?


No! I mean I want her to be happy because she deserves it. It has nothing
to do with what I do or do not say to her.
I just think that her lack of curves and her very, very
lean physique may not attract the guys. OTOH, I think that what
Michelle said has some merit, too. Perhaps they can sense how
lonely she is and it scares them. Hey -- why don't we all just
send her some good energy so she finds a great guy -- she deserves
one! I have decided not to say anything to her about her figure
because it just makes me too uncomfortable. However, I think some
good energy headed her way would be a great thing! --
nimue


Good.


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nimue

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influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
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Old July 21st, 2004, 01:37 PM
nimue
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Roger Zoul wrote:
Luna wrote:
In article ,
Michael Nielsen wrote:

Luna wrote:

Do you think she has an eating disorder? If you do, then as a
friend you need to speak up for the sake of her health.

Grrrr.....


Hey, I was just wondering. I don't think "eating disorder" as soon
as someone says "thin" but I'm sorry to say I do think it when I see
the
phrase "too thin." Because to me, "too thin" naturally implies
"unhealthy" because otherwise how could it _be_ too thin? Just like
if my tires are "too smushy" I assume they need some air. If they
don't need air, ergo they're not too smushy. If she is not
unhealthy, then she is not too thin. Maybe she's thinner than those
particular men prefer, but that's not her problem, it's their
limitation.


It's very easy to be "too thin" in the eyes of someone who is either
overweight or very used to people being overweight.


Oh, no. I have been thin and my family is thin for the most part, and most
of my friends are thin. I have no problem with thin. I know what an eating
disorder looks like -- my sis and bro both had one -- and I also know what
"too thin" (you're right -- to me) looks like. Please. I teach teenagers.
I see plenty of slender people who look great all the time.
--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
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Old July 21st, 2004, 02:23 PM
Roger Zoul
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nimue wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Luna wrote:
::::: In article ,
::::: Michael Nielsen wrote:
:::::
:::::: Luna wrote:
:::::::
::::::: Do you think she has an eating disorder? If you do, then as a
::::::: friend you need to speak up for the sake of her health.
::::::
:::::: Grrrr.....
::::::
:::::
::::: Hey, I was just wondering. I don't think "eating disorder" as
::::: soon as someone says "thin" but I'm sorry to say I do think it
::::: when I see the
::::: phrase "too thin." Because to me, "too thin" naturally implies
::::: "unhealthy" because otherwise how could it _be_ too thin? Just
::::: like if my tires are "too smushy" I assume they need some air.
::::: If they don't need air, ergo they're not too smushy. If she is not
::::: unhealthy, then she is not too thin. Maybe she's thinner than
::::: those particular men prefer, but that's not her problem, it's
::::: their limitation.
:::
::: It's very easy to be "too thin" in the eyes of someone who is either
::: overweight or very used to people being overweight.
::
:: Oh, no. I have been thin and my family is thin for the most part,
:: and most of my friends are thin. I have no problem with thin. I
:: know what an eating disorder looks like -- my sis and bro both had
:: one -- and I also know what "too thin" (you're right -- to me) looks
:: like. Please. I teach teenagers. I see plenty of slender people
:: who look great all the time. --
:: nimue

Well, you've finally found that people can exceed even your expectations of
what "thin" is. If this lady is not having health issues because of her low
body weight, then saying she is too thin is silly other than for just
stating your opinion (which is fine, btw). However, while you've said over
and over that you, who knows her personally, thinks she doesn't have an
eating disorder, your comments have resulted in others thinking that she
does. Also note that you didn't say she was a gymnast, just that she has
some involvement with that activity (along with others).

Heck, I weigh 239 lbs @ 6'1" and I get people tell me all the time that I'm
too thin.


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Old July 21st, 2004, 08:11 PM
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Roger Zoul wrote:

Heck, I weigh 239 lbs @ 6'1" and I get people tell me all the time that I'm
too thin.


Show them a picture of me, I'm also 6'1" and 170 lbs.
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Old July 21st, 2004, 08:22 PM
Michael Nielsen
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Elana wrote:
the gaze at appropriate times. Also, they showed how the woman can
show interest in the guy by leaning into or tilting the head towards
the guy during a conversation. These tips sound strange, but when
they showed the woman's before and after dating techniques, the
difference was amazing. Maybe you can try these with your friend as a
joke sometime.


They also need to learn to look men in the eyes.
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 03:51 AM
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"Michael Nielsen" wrote in message
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Roger Zoul wrote:

Heck, I weigh 239 lbs @ 6'1" and I get people tell me all the time that
I'm
too thin.


Show them a picture of me, I'm also 6'1" and 170 lbs.


and why are you hanging about in a dieting support newsgroup again?

-kelly


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Old July 23rd, 2004, 03:51 AM
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"Michael Nielsen" wrote in message
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Roger Zoul wrote:

Heck, I weigh 239 lbs @ 6'1" and I get people tell me all the time that
I'm
too thin.


Show them a picture of me, I'm also 6'1" and 170 lbs.


and why are you hanging about in a dieting support newsgroup again?

-kelly


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Old July 22nd, 2004, 11:30 AM
Ada Ma
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Roger Zoul wrote:

Heck, I weigh 239 lbs @ 6'1" and I get people tell me all the time that I'm
too thin.


May it's because you live in the US.

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Old July 21st, 2004, 08:11 PM
Michael Nielsen
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Roger Zoul wrote:

Heck, I weigh 239 lbs @ 6'1" and I get people tell me all the time that I'm
too thin.


Show them a picture of me, I'm also 6'1" and 170 lbs.
 




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