Diet Season is Over

HAHAHAHA
--
- Bear
Grrrrrrrr : o)

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"Steve" wrote in message
ws.net...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:26:27 -0500, Mark.net wrote
(in message ):

I think the 2pid diet is great.
Since you can basically eat whatever you want without worrying about
health,
and the only restriction is that it be 2pid...

Trying to work up a week's meal plan here...

I LOVE Mr Goodbar.
1 bar - 1.75oz - 264 calories
That means I could have 18.3 Mr Goodbars in a day to hit my 2pid limit.
That would only be 4827 calories!

Ok, day 2.
I feel like eating really healthy today.
Chex mix - 1 oz - 120 calories
To be 2pid I could have 32 oz in a day.
That would be 3840 calories.

Day 3.
It feels like a nutty day.
Pistachio nuts - 1 cup - 128 g - 713 calories
Being as 2pid as I can be, I could have 7.1 cups in a day.
That would only be 5053 calories!

Still working on days 4-7...

Finally! A diet where I can eat whatever I want and only worry about it
being 2pid!
I'm guaranteed heart health and weight loss on my 2pid diet!

Right on the mark, Mark! But you may find the Two Foot Diet even
easier and more pleasant to follow... same flawless logic, but no scale
to carry around!

I developed the Two Foot Diet approach (2FD) as a replacement for Dr.
Chung's Amazing Logic Defying Two Pound Diet to avoid having to carry a
scale around.

Inspired by Dr. Chung's scientific approach, as described on his
website, in 2003, my wife and I attended an IMAX film about climbing
the Bavarian Alps and learned that despite their exhausting regimen,
the climbers consumed only 10 packages of wieners per week. That's less
than 2 feet of wieners per day! Since none of the climbers died from
starvation, I think it is safe to assume that 2 feet of food per day
should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks.

So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese friends in my
neighborhood. I gave them ordinary 6 inch rulers with instructions to
measure the length of everything substantial that passed into their
mouths. The only things exempted were water and sugar-free drinks. What
I learned was that my obese friends were consuming between 8 to 12 feet
of food per day! At the time, I was about 10 lbs. over my ideal body
weight so I decided to find out how much I was eating per day... 3
feet. I cut back to less than 2 feet and was at my proper weight in one
month.

My friends have responded similarly except they have taken longer
because of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese
friends were especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the
ones with an unfortunate propensity for accidentally loosing their 6
inch rulers and taking weeks to buy replacements.

So here's the deal: measure all the food you eat, using it's longest
dimension, and keep the total length to less than two feet per day.
That's all there is. No scales, no counting calories or carbohydrates.
Heck, if you loose your ruler, you can even use the first joint of your
thumb to measure.

I am making this diet available as a public service and without
compensation.

If you have any questions, just see Dr. Chung's helpful FAQ and
substitute "Two Feet" for "Two Pounds" everywhere... what could be
simpler?

"If I have seen farther than others, it is because I have stood on the
shoulders of midgets"

Humbly,

Steve, Humilitas Doctorus, Fellow of the American Academy of Humility

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

Dawn Taylor wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 17:45:55 -0500, Bob announced in
front of God and everybody:

Steve wrote:

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:16:04 -0500, Matti Narkia wrote
(in message ):

Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:10:24 -0500 in article
Bob wrote:

Chung is a fraud.

Correct.

Matti Narkia

Correct

Correct.

Oh yeah.

Dawn

Yes. It's correct. You can look it up.

Http://www.chungfraud.com

Tell 'em Joe sent ya.

Bob

Steve wrote in message ews.net...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:33:16 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message ):

Sunshyne wrote:

I agree, there are those who make the new year resolution to lose
weight, then fail on it. I think you got to be determined, ready for
the change.

snip

The Atkins has brought so much self esteem. I feel so more in control
of my life.

Would suggest you ask your doctor about the 2PD approach.


February 9. Sunshyne's Doctor's Office.
---------------------------------------

Doctor: Sunshyne! You look absolutely radiant and healthy!

Sunshyne: Why thank you doctor! What do you know about the 2PD
approach?

Doctor: Approach to what?

Sunshyne: Dieting.

Doctor: Never heard of it.


Sunshyne: Well you eat anything you want as long as it is not
over two pounds a day.

Doctor: And?...

Sunshyne: Nothing. That's it.

Doctor: Hah Hah Hah! You're kidding me, right?

Sunshyne: No, there is a person claiming to be a Doctor on the
Internet who claims that it works.

Doctor: Sunshyne, there are all kinds of kooks on the Internet
claiming all kinds of things. But this? Heh, I
have to admit this is even kookier than usual. A
Doctor, you say... what hospitals does he have admitting
privileges at?

Sunshyne: He says he won't tell.

Doctor: I see. And how does a Doctor find so much time to
spend on the Internet ? I know I am too busy seeing
patients.

Sunshyne: He says he types fast.

Doctor: Types fast, eh? Does he have any evidence to back up
this so called "diet"?

Sunshyne: He says he got the idea at an IMAX movie. Oh, and he
has the Gift of Truth Discernment.

Doctor: Sunshyne, you are doing great on Adkins! I suggest you
stick with it and don't be swayed by outrageous claims
made by people you don't know on the Internet. You only
have to apply "An Ounce of Common Sense" to see what a
farce this is.

Sunshyne: Thank you Doctor. It's nice to talk to the "Real Thing"

Doctor: Thank you, Sunshyne. You're too kind by half. See you
next time.


You made me smile, thank you.

"Bear" wrote in message link.net...
HAHAHAHA
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FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not
request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are
upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Bear ;-)
(2) Report Bear to his ISP ;-)
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which
is described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate this
Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has
been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community
service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen
from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of
Himself to better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are
vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated
Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and
have lost the argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and
other discussion threads.

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2
pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be
"if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the
messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll"
is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no
redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting
"flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting
the discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the
2PD to achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when
their weight becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line
(including jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they
were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements,
the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed
louder in support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they
are, using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and
libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily
debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning
the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig, Steve, and
Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to
deliver one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by
cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the
2PD or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din
of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147

Bob wrote in message ...
Luna wrote:

In article ,
"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because
the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the
header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it.

Um, it wasn't crossposted until you decided to crosspost it.

hiss

You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not
request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are
upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Bob
(2) Report Bob to his ISP.
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which
is described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate this
Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has
been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community
service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen
from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of
Himself to better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are
vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated
Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and
have lost the argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and
other discussion threads.

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2
pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be
"if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the
messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll"
is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no
redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting
"flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting
the discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the
2PD to achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when
their weight becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line
(including jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they
were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements,
the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed
louder in support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they
are, using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and
libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily
debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning
the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig, Steve, and
Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to
deliver one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by
cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the
2PD or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din
of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Bob wrote in message ...

Luna wrote:

In article ,
"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because
the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the
header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it.

Um, it wasn't crossposted until you decided to crosspost it.

hiss

Chung didn't seem to acknowledge being shown to be a fraud. Again.
Shame. One of these days, it'll pile up too big even for him to deny.

Poor Chung in denial.

Bob

Sunshyne wrote:

Steve wrote in message ews.net...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:33:16 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message ):

Sunshyne wrote:

I agree, there are those who make the new year resolution to lose
weight, then fail on it. I think you got to be determined, ready for
the change.

snip

The Atkins has brought so much self esteem. I feel so more in control
of my life.

Would suggest you ask your doctor about the 2PD approach.


February 9. Sunshyne's Visit to Her Doctor's Office.
---------------------------------------

Doctor: Sunshyne, is that ketones I smell on your breath?

Sunshyne: It is. I have been on Atkin's. Are ketones a bad
thing?

Doctor: Could be. Have you heard of the 2PD approach?

Sunshyne: Funny you should ask. I was about to ask you!

Doctor: Good, I am glad you already know about it :-)


Sunshyne: Well you eat anything you want as long as it is not
over two pounds a day.

Doctor: No. You eat what you were eating but you decrease the
the amount to two pounds.

Sunshyne: Oh. Won't I starve?

Doctor: No. Two pounds is plenty of food. I am doing it.

Sunshyne: Is that why you are so trim?


Doctor: Yes. The 2PD approach is easy to stick with.
We'll likely have to lower your medications after
a few months because you will lose weight.

Sunshyne: Then you will supervise me?

Doctor: Deinitely :-)

Sunshyne: Thank you Doctor.

Doctor: Don't forget to donate your loose clothes to the
Salvation Army :-)

You made me smile, thank you.



I'm glad Steve lifted your spirits :-)

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
http:/www.heartmdphd.com/

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 4:57:42 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message ):

Sunshyne wrote:

Steve wrote in message
ews.net...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:33:16 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message ):

Sunshyne wrote:

I agree, there are those who make the new year resolution to lose
weight, then fail on it. I think you got to be determined, ready for
the change.

snip

The Atkins has brought so much self esteem. I feel so more in control
of my life.

Would suggest you ask your doctor about the 2PD approach.


February 9. Sunshyne's Visit to Her Doctor's Office.
---------------------------------------

snip of Chungs's usual bumbling dishonesty


You made me smile, thank you.



I'm glad Steve lifted your spirits :-)

Why is it hard for me to believe you're glad? Is that why you attach
your "macro" to every post? Because you're _glad_?

Well, Chung, you lifted _my_ spirits with your usual bumbling,
dishonest attempt to sneak in your own buffoonery by modifying my
quoted text. I have to admit, your version is even funnier than
mine :-) I was tempted to leave it in in case anyone missed it, but it
really makes the post too long. Besides, I have to leave room for you
to attach the Micro Minded Macro. I suggest anyone who wants a good
laugh go back and read Chung's version. Oh, yeah..._that_ could
happen.
--
Steve

Who is the humblest person in the universe?
According to Chung, God :-)
ROTFL! "I'm Humble! Worship Me!"

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

Jenny wrote:
Folks,

The big Low Carb marketing blast you saw in January was part of the
regularly scheduled "diet season" which comes around every year after people
put on their holiday 10 pounds. It ends every year, like clockwork, with
the Superbowl. Around the same time gyms clear out as all the people who
signed up for memberships stop coming.


After working at a gym for a couple of years now, I've noticed that
the wave of new members doesn't happen at the first of the year. The
mindset is, "There'll be a lot new year resolution newbies at the gym
on January 2nd, and since I don't want to be seen as a one of them,
I'll start my new workout resolution a little later." Its toward the
end of January and into February that I get a lot of people who are
new to exercise and gyms.


--
Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
-Emiliano Zapata

Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm

Bob wrote:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Now lets keep this up without the insults.

hiss

Truth insults the untruthful.

hiss

You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request
that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about
reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Bob
(2) Report Bob to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

Bob's pathological obsessions are related to the 2 pound diet approach
(2PD) which is described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary
and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation
has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as
a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks
He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently
opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on
every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the
argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this
discussion thread(s).

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound
diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can
not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is
someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming
discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the
discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to
achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their
weight becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line
(including jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were
attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the
hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in
support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are,
using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous
claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the
anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by
cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD
or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD
above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147