New to group

Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm 6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points :-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for a
duathlon)

Welcome to the group and WW. With your diabeties maybe you need a 3pm snack
to keep your blood sugar levels correct. I think you may have been having
trouble on Core because it takes a few weeks for your body to adjust to the
new way of eating. I love core and am rarely hungry. I eat around 24 points
of food a day. I was hungry on Flex eating the same points but I was eating
the wrong foods. Try flex for a while so that you can get the hang of
portion control but concentrate on using the Core foods. That will help your
blood sugar levels. Good luck and post often.

"Byron Oost" wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm
6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I
can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points
:-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for
a
duathlon)

Welcome to the group and WW. With your diabeties maybe you need a 3pm snack
to keep your blood sugar levels correct. I think you may have been having
trouble on Core because it takes a few weeks for your body to adjust to the
new way of eating. I love core and am rarely hungry. I eat around 24 points
of food a day. I was hungry on Flex eating the same points but I was eating
the wrong foods. Try flex for a while so that you can get the hang of
portion control but concentrate on using the Core foods. That will help your
blood sugar levels. Good luck and post often.

"Byron Oost" wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm
6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I
can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points
:-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for
a
duathlon)

welcome, the thing about WW is that you know this is a lifetime change, it
seems fine to me to try each program and see which works best for you. It
may also be that you will have to take longer to reduce your points, the
important thing is that you are working on eating healthier and that is what
will get you there, best of luck, post often, Lee
Byron Oost wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm
6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I
can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points
:-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for
a
duathlon)

welcome, the thing about WW is that you know this is a lifetime change, it
seems fine to me to try each program and see which works best for you. It
may also be that you will have to take longer to reduce your points, the
important thing is that you are working on eating healthier and that is what
will get you there, best of luck, post often, Lee
Byron Oost wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm
6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I
can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points
:-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for
a
duathlon)

Hi, Bryon, Good luck with the program.

--
Take Care
Catherine
joined 5/20/98
Lifetime 6/2/99
154/139.6/136
Personal goal 126
"Byron Oost" wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm 6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points :-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for a
duathlon)

Hi, Bryon, Good luck with the program.

--
Take Care
Catherine
joined 5/20/98
Lifetime 6/2/99
154/139.6/136
Personal goal 126
"Byron Oost" wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm 6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points :-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for a
duathlon)

Hi, Bryon, Good luck with the program.

--
Take Care
Catherine
joined 5/20/98
Lifetime 6/2/99
154/139.6/136
Personal goal 126
"Byron Oost" wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm 6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points :-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for a
duathlon)

Hi Byron and welcome to the group. It may seem now that you'll never manage
to reduce your daily points and you'll never get to WW goal, but trust me,
you will make it happen. I started on 24 points per day and have reduced it
to 20 - not that much really, but it did taken some rearranging of some
pretty set habits. It is possible, promise. Here's the welcome notice to
get you started in the group.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support,
advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links
that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may want to look for that
later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ:
http://www.didian.com/asdww/
our welcome notice:
http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG:
NSV = Non-Scale Victory
WOE = Way of Eating
WOL = Way of Life (Living)
OP = on Points or On Program
DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc
WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

Move It & Lose It Exercise Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/mili.htm

Why Weight? Weight Loss Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/ww.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/wll.htm

Weight Loss Challenge Summary:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/summary.htm


Other acronyms:
http://www.wwlissa.com/dwlz100+/100+acronyms.htm

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you
lose
weight those points allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need
less
to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints system, you
will
have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are allowed 35
flexpoints
to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn
on a
particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22
points ...
weight reaches 150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of
dairy of
recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses
of
water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop
calculator ...
http://www.zythra.com/downloads/points.exe

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points.
Points
do not carry over from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to
be
used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an
additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a special
occassion
during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can
ONLY
be used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing
for you
to look into. There is lots of information available, as well as the food
point
database and journaling system.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ,
Europe), the Points plans are different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate
points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe
calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator
above can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that
most of the people who participate are respectful, considerate folks who
freely share their experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and
maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the
time, people like this are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the
regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if
you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right
to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health
professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/73.9/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
205.7/162.6/162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ and welcome notice:
http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html



"Byron Oost" wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm
6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I
can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points
:-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for
a
duathlon)

Hi Byron and welcome to the group. It may seem now that you'll never manage
to reduce your daily points and you'll never get to WW goal, but trust me,
you will make it happen. I started on 24 points per day and have reduced it
to 20 - not that much really, but it did taken some rearranging of some
pretty set habits. It is possible, promise. Here's the welcome notice to
get you started in the group.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support,
advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links
that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may want to look for that
later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ:
http://www.didian.com/asdww/
our welcome notice:
http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG:
NSV = Non-Scale Victory
WOE = Way of Eating
WOL = Way of Life (Living)
OP = on Points or On Program
DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc
WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

Move It & Lose It Exercise Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/mili.htm

Why Weight? Weight Loss Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/ww.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/wll.htm

Weight Loss Challenge Summary:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/summary.htm


Other acronyms:
http://www.wwlissa.com/dwlz100+/100+acronyms.htm

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you
lose
weight those points allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need
less
to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints system, you
will
have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are allowed 35
flexpoints
to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn
on a
particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22
points ...
weight reaches 150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of
dairy of
recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses
of
water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop
calculator ...
http://www.zythra.com/downloads/points.exe

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points.
Points
do not carry over from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to
be
used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an
additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a special
occassion
during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can
ONLY
be used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing
for you
to look into. There is lots of information available, as well as the food
point
database and journaling system.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ,
Europe), the Points plans are different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate
points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe
calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator
above can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that
most of the people who participate are respectful, considerate folks who
freely share their experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and
maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the
time, people like this are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the
regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if
you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right
to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health
professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/73.9/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
205.7/162.6/162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ and welcome notice:
http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html



"Byron Oost" wrote in message
...
Hello,
My name is Byron. I'm from Owensboro, KY and joined WW's on 10-23-04. I am
diabetic, type 2, which basically means I don't require injections. I
weighed in the first day at 346.2. WOW! That'll wake you up, won't it?
My long term goal weight according to WW's is 184, but I think 198 is more
appropriate. I was down to 218 in 94 and was damn near slim and trim. I'm
6'
and quite stocky even without extra fat.
I started the first week on the core plan. Nearly everyday around 4PM my
blood sugar would plummet leaving me sick. I did lose 4.8lbs though.
I have switched to the Flex plan this week. But I honestly don't think I
can
live within the points allowed on Flex, even with the extra weekly points.
And I can't possibly see reducing the points as I lose weight. Maybe that
will change.
Anyhow that's where I'm at. Now it off to gym to earn some extra points
:-)

ironbyron in Owensboro, KY (nickname given to me in 94 while training for
a
duathlon)