Safe minimum calorie intake

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:20:35 +0100, Vance Roos
wrote:

On a calorie reduction diet what is the minumum value of calories one
should not go below?

It's going to vary with the person, but I'd suggest not dropping
calories below 1200/day.

The issue is how much are you exercising? If you are not
exercising you will not be healthy. You will also hit a
plateau. So start an exercise program first.

Vance Roos wrote:

On a calorie reduction diet what is the minumum value of calories one
should not go below?

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:20:35 +0100, Vance Roos
wrote:

On a calorie reduction diet what is the minumum value of calories one
should not go below?

It depends on your body's metabolic rate (which is related to stuff
like current weight, muscle msss, age, and gender) and also on how
much you're exercising. I'm female and 55 (neither of which
contribute to a fast metabolism :-) ) weigh 177, am quite muscular and
exercise quite a bit. The nutritionist at my gym has advised me not
to drop below 1400. Currently I'm eating around 1600 and losing
around 1 lb. per week.

Chris
262/177/???

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:20:35 +0100, Vance Roos
wrote:

On a calorie reduction diet what is the minumum value of calories one
should not go below?

4 * 454 * 2 = ok

On a calorie reduction diet what is the minumum value of calories one
should not go below?

For men - 10 times your current body weight.

For women - 8 times your current body weight.

Below that - you should be closely supervised by a medical physician,
dietician or someone else qualified in such extreme low cals.

In lb or kilo? In lb, that'd mean 1950 kcal for me, and in kg, it'd mean
880 kcal. The former seems too high, and the latter seems too low . . .

MadJock
204/196/165

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On 2 Oct 2003 14:57:16 GMT, Ignoramus8561
wrote:

In article , Jayjay wrote:
On 2 Oct 2003 14:26:56 GMT, Ignoramus8561
wrote:

What about the maintenance level?


In general

12 - 13 for women
13 - 14+ for men.

That is a general "theory"... of course individual results may vary.



Is that for sedentary people? DO I just add my exercise calories to
it?


i

This formula is used by moderately active people. This combined with
moderate exercise should produce a weight loss of 1 to2lbs per week.
(combined intake and exercise).

And at maintenance levels and maintained exercise should maintain
weight.


HMR has put the amount at 11 cal/pd for women and 12 for men. This is not
including exercise or people who are very sedentary. So the numbers are
similar to what you mentioned. Our center recommends you calculate weekly
as follows: Your previous week's weight X 11 (or 12), minus your net
calories for the week (cal in - cal out) divided by 3500. This is your
"expected" loss. Compare that to your actual loss for the week and after a
few weeks you can get a good estimate of maintenance calories or figure out
how many calories you need to cut to lose 1 or 2 pounds a week. Many times
the difference between expected and actual can be due to water gain or loss.

Prior to starting their diet plan, Curves has people log their food and
exercise for 2 weeks along with their weight so they can calculate their own
rates. At least the one here does.

Jenn

Vance Roos wrote:

Chupacabra wrote:

On a calorie reduction diet what is the minumum value of
calories one should not go below?

It's going to vary with the person, but I'd suggest not dropping
calories below 1200/day.

Why is there this limit?

I seem to remember that if you had too few calories then your muscles
and organs start to get consumed toprovide the energy.


*blinking*

Would you *like* your organs and muscles to be consumed?

A.
--
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Josh: Today, my dear friend, all you had to do was get out of bed.
-- The West Wing

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:20:35 +0100, Vance Roos
wrote:
On a calorie reduction diet what is the minumum value of calories one
should not go below?

Without medical supervision: 1200.
With medical supervision: 500.


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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:45:19 +0100, Vance Roos
wrote:
Chupacabra wrote:
On a calorie reduction diet what is the minumum value of
calories one should not go below?
It's going to vary with the person, but I'd suggest not dropping
calories below 1200/day.
Why is there this limit?
I seem to remember that if you had too few calories then your muscles
and organs start to get consumed toprovide the energy.
Is this true?

Only by association. Below 1200 calories per day, the average person
can't properly monitor their intake to ensure they're getting enough
of the necessary nutrients (at a macro- and micro-nutrient level), and
ensure that the calorie deficit isn't causing other
(non-nutrition-related) problems. So while the reality is more along
the lines of the fact that you need a certain number of
grams/milligrams of certain macro- and micro-nutrients (and in the
case of the failure-mode you mentioned, grams of protein being the
most significant factor), it is easier for most folks to monitor a
gross number of calories than to monitor a vast array of data about
all the macro- and micro-nutrients.

This is borne out by the fact that under medical supervision, with
specially-formulated foods, calorie intake at the 500 calorie per day
level has been found to be both safe and effective.


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On 2 Oct 2003 14:26:56 GMT, Ignoramus8561
wrote:
What about the maintenance level?

11-12 x body weight (net) for women
12-13 x body weight (net) for men

Net intake is gross intake minus calories burned through exercise.


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