RAFL - Fred - Feb 11

Sounds good.

And how many points? Other than my twice weekly teriaki chicken at
lunch (half and then the other as a fast dinner or a
work-at-home-day-lunch) I do not do rice. Oh, yeah, when as part of
sushi.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:30:39 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh yes, my comfort food. I do them Louisiana style, lots of seasoning. Red
pepper, parsley, garlic, a little boquet garni, dry red beans soak em, olive
oil, no nitrate lean ham cubes, a real production, but easily done in stages
as I pass the kitchen on the way to the washing machine

"Fred" wrote in message
news
Was that homemade? Is there any particular seasoning to red beans and
rice or just a melange of the two items?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:28:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh YUM on the sandwich! I had some red beans and rice for lunch, also
very
good.

"Fred" wrote in message
news Maybe but it was on the swift road bike. How about extra for skiing
in the snow and fog today?? Had a pickled herring sandwich for lunch
on the ski trip on flax seed bread.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:02:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

////well, 23 in the rain probably counts extra...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Rained on and rained out - 23 miles with a gain of 970 feet. WET,
WET
and WETTER. Oh, well there was some sun for the first 10 miles (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:23:51 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Okay, that's it - today's bike ride can't be a wimpy 27 miles, we
will
have to do the larger 37 mile loop!!!! (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:04:31 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:


"Fred" Said....

If I recall, just the other day, SOMEONE (one of those multiple
personas) was saying THEIR leader said THEY should not be that
low
because of THAT person's body type.

At this moment I totally agree with her. That pound between 157
and
156
really really hurts. I am feeling horrible! (Might have
something
to
do
with the sleep deprivation...) I do feel very physically depleted
though,
and cannot get enough to eat. Ate like a horse yesterday. I will
no
doubt
go back up a couple here any time. So Maybe.... You ALL already
win
next
week. Yall might still have a chance.


On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:37:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

We are having a busy time here, Mom is very weak. I am really
working.
156
again this morning

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
It is annoying and may interfere with any ski plans. The
weather
this
week was perfect. Now the weekend is here and rain is
expected.
Oh,
well....

Your sentences are getting rather abbreviated.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:11:35 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Well. It won't get you, you too tough

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yup. I trying to determine who I blame it on! They are
dead!
(G)

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:01:41 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

aw you are sick Too. I hate colds

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, after lots of meringues yesterday, last night it
was
two
pickles
at 9pm and no more points. I think the cold (as in
sniffles,
not
outside temps) has not helped my mood.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:50:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Fred I was real upset by my two ups and the hard time
I
was
having,
but I
am
at a new low this morning. Life happens, I think
maybe
an
occational
refeed
is necessary metabolically. I also thing if you stay
Here
(which
is
what
kept the focus for me during the Up) you will come
down
again.
I
was
already started down again before this crisis hit.
Before
that,
I
was
in
kind of a panic over it. Because I was So hungry.
Just
try
to
toss a
high
volume low point day in there once or twice and you
will
break
out
of
those
munchies.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I am listening to myself THIS WEEK. Next week is
another
thing.
I
don't like to think of another up week so we shall
see.
But
the
food
cravings continue.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:53:41 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

I hope you're listening to yourself and remembering
that
lifetime
means a bit up and a bit down. Even with a .8 gain,
you're
doing
extremely well.



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a bit down
and
this
week
is
up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's substantial
loss,
this
is
great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's
Mini-Meringue
in
Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting, to TJ's
and
found
the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Prairie Roots
232/163.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Ah, I did not calculate the points, since I am currently 156. . I would
guess about 6 per cup. It is pretty juicy.
A cup of it is very filling however.
With a little salad, or steamed veggies on the side
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Sounds good.

And how many points? Other than my twice weekly teriaki chicken at
lunch (half and then the other as a fast dinner or a
work-at-home-day-lunch) I do not do rice. Oh, yeah, when as part of
sushi.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:30:39 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh yes, my comfort food. I do them Louisiana style, lots of seasoning.
Red
pepper, parsley, garlic, a little boquet garni, dry red beans soak em,
olive
oil, no nitrate lean ham cubes, a real production, but easily done in
stages
as I pass the kitchen on the way to the washing machine

"Fred" wrote in message
news
Was that homemade? Is there any particular seasoning to red beans and
rice or just a melange of the two items?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:28:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh YUM on the sandwich! I had some red beans and rice for lunch, also
very
good.

"Fred" wrote in message
news Maybe but it was on the swift road bike. How about extra for skiing
in the snow and fog today?? Had a pickled herring sandwich for
lunch
on the ski trip on flax seed bread.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:02:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

////well, 23 in the rain probably counts extra...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Rained on and rained out - 23 miles with a gain of 970 feet.
WET,
WET
and WETTER. Oh, well there was some sun for the first 10 miles
(G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:23:51 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, that's it - today's bike ride can't be a wimpy 27 miles,
we
will
have to do the larger 37 mile loop!!!! (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:04:31 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"Fred" Said....

If I recall, just the other day, SOMEONE (one of those
multiple
personas) was saying THEIR leader said THEY should not be
that
low
because of THAT person's body type.

At this moment I totally agree with her. That pound between
157
and
156
really really hurts. I am feeling horrible! (Might have
something
to
do
with the sleep deprivation...) I do feel very physically
depleted
though,
and cannot get enough to eat. Ate like a horse yesterday. I
will
no
doubt
go back up a couple here any time. So Maybe.... You ALL
already
win
next
week. Yall might still have a chance.


On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:37:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

We are having a busy time here, Mom is very weak. I am
really
working.
156
again this morning

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
It is annoying and may interfere with any ski plans. The
weather
this
week was perfect. Now the weekend is here and rain is
expected.
Oh,
well....

Your sentences are getting rather abbreviated.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:11:35 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Well. It won't get you, you too tough

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yup. I trying to determine who I blame it on! They
are
dead!
(G)

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:01:41 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

aw you are sick Too. I hate colds

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, after lots of meringues yesterday, last night
it
was
two
pickles
at 9pm and no more points. I think the cold (as in
sniffles,
not
outside temps) has not helped my mood.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:50:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Fred I was real upset by my two ups and the hard
time
I
was
having,
but I
am
at a new low this morning. Life happens, I think
maybe
an
occational
refeed
is necessary metabolically. I also thing if you
stay
Here
(which
is
what
kept the focus for me during the Up) you will come
down
again.
I
was
already started down again before this crisis hit.
Before
that,
I
was
in
kind of a panic over it. Because I was So hungry.
Just
try
to
toss a
high
volume low point day in there once or twice and you
will
break
out
of
those
munchies.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I am listening to myself THIS WEEK. Next week is
another
thing.
I
don't like to think of another up week so we
shall
see.
But
the
food
cravings continue.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:53:41 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

I hope you're listening to yourself and
remembering
that
lifetime
means a bit up and a bit down. Even with a .8
gain,
you're
doing
extremely well.



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a bit
down
and
this
week
is
up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's
substantial
loss,
this
is
great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's
Mini-Meringue
in
Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting, to
TJ's
and
found
the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Prairie Roots
232/163.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

UNCLE!!!! I give!!! You win!! Who cares about lousy beans and rice
- its water and nothing else! (G)

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:48:25 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Ah, I did not calculate the points, since I am currently 156. . I would
guess about 6 per cup. It is pretty juicy.
A cup of it is very filling however.
With a little salad, or steamed veggies on the side
"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds good.

And how many points? Other than my twice weekly teriaki chicken at
lunch (half and then the other as a fast dinner or a
work-at-home-day-lunch) I do not do rice. Oh, yeah, when as part of
sushi.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:30:39 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh yes, my comfort food. I do them Louisiana style, lots of seasoning.
Red
pepper, parsley, garlic, a little boquet garni, dry red beans soak em,
olive
oil, no nitrate lean ham cubes, a real production, but easily done in
stages
as I pass the kitchen on the way to the washing machine

"Fred" wrote in message
news Was that homemade? Is there any particular seasoning to red beans and
rice or just a melange of the two items?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:28:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh YUM on the sandwich! I had some red beans and rice for lunch, also
very
good.

"Fred" wrote in message
news Maybe but it was on the swift road bike. How about extra for skiing
in the snow and fog today?? Had a pickled herring sandwich for
lunch
on the ski trip on flax seed bread.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:02:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

////well, 23 in the rain probably counts extra...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Rained on and rained out - 23 miles with a gain of 970 feet.
WET,
WET
and WETTER. Oh, well there was some sun for the first 10 miles
(G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:23:51 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, that's it - today's bike ride can't be a wimpy 27 miles,
we
will
have to do the larger 37 mile loop!!!! (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:04:31 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"Fred" Said....

If I recall, just the other day, SOMEONE (one of those
multiple
personas) was saying THEIR leader said THEY should not be
that
low
because of THAT person's body type.

At this moment I totally agree with her. That pound between
157
and
156
really really hurts. I am feeling horrible! (Might have
something
to
do
with the sleep deprivation...) I do feel very physically
depleted
though,
and cannot get enough to eat. Ate like a horse yesterday. I
will
no
doubt
go back up a couple here any time. So Maybe.... You ALL
already
win
next
week. Yall might still have a chance.


On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:37:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

We are having a busy time here, Mom is very weak. I am
really
working.
156
again this morning

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
It is annoying and may interfere with any ski plans. The
weather
this
week was perfect. Now the weekend is here and rain is
expected.
Oh,
well....

Your sentences are getting rather abbreviated.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:11:35 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Well. It won't get you, you too tough

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yup. I trying to determine who I blame it on! They
are
dead!
(G)

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:01:41 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

aw you are sick Too. I hate colds

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, after lots of meringues yesterday, last night
it
was
two
pickles
at 9pm and no more points. I think the cold (as in
sniffles,
not
outside temps) has not helped my mood.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:50:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Fred I was real upset by my two ups and the hard
time
I
was
having,
but I
am
at a new low this morning. Life happens, I think
maybe
an
occational
refeed
is necessary metabolically. I also thing if you
stay
Here
(which
is
what
kept the focus for me during the Up) you will come
down
again.
I
was
already started down again before this crisis hit.
Before
that,
I
was
in
kind of a panic over it. Because I was So hungry.
Just
try
to
toss a
high
volume low point day in there once or twice and you
will
break
out
of
those
munchies.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I am listening to myself THIS WEEK. Next week is
another
thing.
I
don't like to think of another up week so we
shall
see.
But
the
food
cravings continue.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:53:41 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

I hope you're listening to yourself and
remembering
that
lifetime
means a bit up and a bit down. Even with a .8
gain,
you're
doing
extremely well.



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a bit
down
and
this
week
is
up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's
substantial
loss,
this
is
great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's
Mini-Meringue
in
Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting, to
TJ's
and
found
the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Prairie Roots
232/163.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Tee Hee in case you missed it the dang scale said 155 this morning. My
average is even going to be great this week!

"Fred" wrote in message
...
UNCLE!!!! I give!!! You win!! Who cares about lousy beans and rice
- its water and nothing else! (G)

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:48:25 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Ah, I did not calculate the points, since I am currently 156. . I
would
guess about 6 per cup. It is pretty juicy.
A cup of it is very filling however.
With a little salad, or steamed veggies on the side
"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds good.

And how many points? Other than my twice weekly teriaki chicken at
lunch (half and then the other as a fast dinner or a
work-at-home-day-lunch) I do not do rice. Oh, yeah, when as part of
sushi.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:30:39 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh yes, my comfort food. I do them Louisiana style, lots of
seasoning.
Red
pepper, parsley, garlic, a little boquet garni, dry red beans soak em,
olive
oil, no nitrate lean ham cubes, a real production, but easily done in
stages
as I pass the kitchen on the way to the washing machine

"Fred" wrote in message
news Was that homemade? Is there any particular seasoning to red beans
and
rice or just a melange of the two items?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:28:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh YUM on the sandwich! I had some red beans and rice for lunch,
also
very
good.

"Fred" wrote in message
news Maybe but it was on the swift road bike. How about extra for
skiing
in the snow and fog today?? Had a pickled herring sandwich for
lunch
on the ski trip on flax seed bread.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:02:42 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

////well, 23 in the rain probably counts extra...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Rained on and rained out - 23 miles with a gain of 970 feet.
WET,
WET
and WETTER. Oh, well there was some sun for the first 10
miles
(G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:23:51 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, that's it - today's bike ride can't be a wimpy 27
miles,
we
will
have to do the larger 37 mile loop!!!! (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:04:31 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"Fred" Said....

If I recall, just the other day, SOMEONE (one of those
multiple
personas) was saying THEIR leader said THEY should not be
that
low
because of THAT person's body type.

At this moment I totally agree with her. That pound between
157
and
156
really really hurts. I am feeling horrible! (Might have
something
to
do
with the sleep deprivation...) I do feel very physically
depleted
though,
and cannot get enough to eat. Ate like a horse yesterday.
I
will
no
doubt
go back up a couple here any time. So Maybe.... You ALL
already
win
next
week. Yall might still have a chance.


On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:37:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

We are having a busy time here, Mom is very weak. I am
really
working.
156
again this morning

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
It is annoying and may interfere with any ski plans.
The
weather
this
week was perfect. Now the weekend is here and rain is
expected.
Oh,
well....

Your sentences are getting rather abbreviated.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:11:35 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Well. It won't get you, you too tough

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yup. I trying to determine who I blame it on! They
are
dead!
(G)

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:01:41 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

aw you are sick Too. I hate colds

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, after lots of meringues yesterday, last
night
it
was
two
pickles
at 9pm and no more points. I think the cold (as
in
sniffles,
not
outside temps) has not helped my mood.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:50:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Fred I was real upset by my two ups and the hard
time
I
was
having,
but I
am
at a new low this morning. Life happens, I
think
maybe
an
occational
refeed
is necessary metabolically. I also thing if you
stay
Here
(which
is
what
kept the focus for me during the Up) you will
come
down
again.
I
was
already started down again before this crisis
hit.
Before
that,
I
was
in
kind of a panic over it. Because I was So
hungry.
Just
try
to
toss a
high
volume low point day in there once or twice and
you
will
break
out
of
those
munchies.


"Fred" wrote in
message

.. .
I am listening to myself THIS WEEK. Next week
is
another
thing.
I
don't like to think of another up week so we
shall
see.
But
the
food
cravings continue.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:53:41 -0600, Prairie
Roots

wrote:

I hope you're listening to yourself and
remembering
that
lifetime
means a bit up and a bit down. Even with a .8
gain,
you're
doing
extremely well.



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a bit
down
and
this
week
is
up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's
substantial
loss,
this
is
great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's
Mini-Meringue
in
Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting, to
TJ's
and
found
the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted
coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Prairie Roots
232/163.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

I already cried UNCLE, what else to you want - blood, Vampira? (g)

I should be up another bit tomorrow, I fear. I should have skipped
dinner but that was not going to happen.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:22:44 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Tee Hee in case you missed it the dang scale said 155 this morning. My
average is even going to be great this week!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
UNCLE!!!! I give!!! You win!! Who cares about lousy beans and rice
- its water and nothing else! (G)

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:48:25 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Ah, I did not calculate the points, since I am currently 156. . I
would
guess about 6 per cup. It is pretty juicy.
A cup of it is very filling however.
With a little salad, or steamed veggies on the side
"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds good.

And how many points? Other than my twice weekly teriaki chicken at
lunch (half and then the other as a fast dinner or a
work-at-home-day-lunch) I do not do rice. Oh, yeah, when as part of
sushi.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:30:39 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh yes, my comfort food. I do them Louisiana style, lots of
seasoning.
Red
pepper, parsley, garlic, a little boquet garni, dry red beans soak em,
olive
oil, no nitrate lean ham cubes, a real production, but easily done in
stages
as I pass the kitchen on the way to the washing machine

"Fred" wrote in message
news Was that homemade? Is there any particular seasoning to red beans
and
rice or just a melange of the two items?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:28:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh YUM on the sandwich! I had some red beans and rice for lunch,
also
very
good.

"Fred" wrote in message
news Maybe but it was on the swift road bike. How about extra for
skiing
in the snow and fog today?? Had a pickled herring sandwich for
lunch
on the ski trip on flax seed bread.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:02:42 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

////well, 23 in the rain probably counts extra...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Rained on and rained out - 23 miles with a gain of 970 feet.
WET,
WET
and WETTER. Oh, well there was some sun for the first 10
miles
(G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:23:51 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, that's it - today's bike ride can't be a wimpy 27
miles,
we
will
have to do the larger 37 mile loop!!!! (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:04:31 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"Fred" Said....

If I recall, just the other day, SOMEONE (one of those
multiple
personas) was saying THEIR leader said THEY should not be
that
low
because of THAT person's body type.

At this moment I totally agree with her. That pound between
157
and
156
really really hurts. I am feeling horrible! (Might have
something
to
do
with the sleep deprivation...) I do feel very physically
depleted
though,
and cannot get enough to eat. Ate like a horse yesterday.
I
will
no
doubt
go back up a couple here any time. So Maybe.... You ALL
already
win
next
week. Yall might still have a chance.


On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:37:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

We are having a busy time here, Mom is very weak. I am
really
working.
156
again this morning

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
It is annoying and may interfere with any ski plans.
The
weather
this
week was perfect. Now the weekend is here and rain is
expected.
Oh,
well....

Your sentences are getting rather abbreviated.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:11:35 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Well. It won't get you, you too tough

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yup. I trying to determine who I blame it on! They
are
dead!
(G)

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:01:41 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

aw you are sick Too. I hate colds

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, after lots of meringues yesterday, last
night
it
was
two
pickles
at 9pm and no more points. I think the cold (as
in
sniffles,
not
outside temps) has not helped my mood.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:50:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Fred I was real upset by my two ups and the hard
time
I
was
having,
but I
am
at a new low this morning. Life happens, I
think
maybe
an
occational
refeed
is necessary metabolically. I also thing if you
stay
Here
(which
is
what
kept the focus for me during the Up) you will
come
down
again.
I
was
already started down again before this crisis
hit.
Before
that,
I
was
in
kind of a panic over it. Because I was So
hungry.
Just
try
to
toss a
high
volume low point day in there once or twice and
you
will
break
out
of
those
munchies.


"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
I am listening to myself THIS WEEK. Next week
is
another
thing.
I
don't like to think of another up week so we
shall
see.
But
the
food
cravings continue.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:53:41 -0600, Prairie
Roots

wrote:

I hope you're listening to yourself and
remembering
that
lifetime
means a bit up and a bit down. Even with a .8
gain,
you're
doing
extremely well.



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a bit
down
and
this
week
is
up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's
substantial
loss,
this
is
great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's
Mini-Meringue
in
Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting, to
TJ's
and
found
the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted
coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Prairie Roots
232/163.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Then we're even. No lasagna for you, no dried guava for me. I normally don't
look at the breads either, is one of those items I pretty much stay away from. I
had seen the muffins listed in their little newspaper/newsletter thing that is
mailed to the house and thought they sounded good. I was very pleasantly
surprised when I found that the nutritional information was friendly also.

Joyce

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:23:12 -0800, Fred wrote:

That sounds pretty good. I have not looked at any of the "super"
bread-extras - just a loaf on occasion. Still never did find your
lasagna either.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:05:23 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Too late - you knew I wasn't going to pass this one up! Trader Joe's 99% fat free
Blueberry Wheat Bran Muffins ... 1 muffin, about 2 oz., 110 cal/0.5g fat/5g fiber,
1.44 US points. They really are good! Not a large sized muffin, but a bit bigger
than the mini muffin types. Maybe a small cupcake? hehehe There are no
preservatives, took me a while to figure that out (too bad I didn't read the
package where it is stated very clearly). The first two packages I bought turned
moldy within 2 or 3 days. I have since learned ... put them in a zipper bag and
keep refrigerated for a bit longer life. My TJ's has them near the english
muffins/breads - stacked on a display table in the center of the aisle. Go for
it! They really do make a nice snack alternative.

Joyce

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:24:46 -0800, Fred wrote:

Hmm, how many points for those blueberry bran muffins - NO! don't tell
me...... (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:25:22 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I've put them on my list for the next time I head to Trader Joe's. Not sure when
that will be as I'm currently stocked up on soup, english muffins and blueberry
bran muffins. I'm sure I'll come up with *something* that will drag me there soon
though. G

Joyce

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:59:39 -0800, Fred wrote:

I decided to try the coconut and they were much too good - better than
expected.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:22:17 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Sorry about the gain Fred, but it's just a little one and will be gone in no
time I'm sure.
Mmmm.... toasted coconut, one of my favorites!

Brenda

"Fred" wrote in message
newsl1l20hvic4qa9hakbbbprlvjnmgu3f6h3@4ax. com...
Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a bit down and this week is up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's substantial loss, this is great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's Mini-Meringue in Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting, to TJ's and found the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

They do seem to have a lot of different varieties. My store was well stocked
again today, mini-chocolate chip, mini mint-chocolate chip, vanilla, orange, very
chocolate (which appears to have a new label on the package now), and coconut. I
only bought the chocolate chip - grabbed 2 containers this time. I've noticed
mine disappearing much faster, looks like hub is helping. G

I just looked at their website and it appears that the only one my store isn't
carrying in the mini-size is the rainbow vanilla .. which I'm not interested in
anyway. I've never seen any of the miss meringue chocolettes in our store ...
cookies drizzled with chocolate. mmmmmmmmmm, chocolate!

Joyce

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:24:48 -0800, Fred wrote:

I can't believe their varieties. I've never seen orange. Vanilla are
just not worth it but I have done so on occasion anyway (G)

Need to visit their website and see all they offer.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:08:17 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I may just have to try them, would like to have an alternative for when my grocer
is sold out of the miss meringues ... which is quite often. The mini-chocolate
chips have only been in my store for a few months. But remember when I couldn't
find the very chocolate ones and only was able to buy the chocolate raspberry?
Now the raspberry are nowhere to be found, and the very chocolate are slim
pickins. This week we were back to orange and vanilla ... two of my least
favorites. Oh, and my store has also carried mm's in the mini MINT chocolate chip
variety. They are *ok*, I like the plain choc. chip much better.

Joyce

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:29:06 -0800, Fred wrote:

They are really pretty good imitations (if they are not made by the
same outfit) but I think that they dissolve to a more sticky inside
rather than just simply dissolve (G)

I don't think I've ever since the mini choc chip ones anywhere.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:26:40 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I've really become hooked on the miss meringue mini chocolate chips, which have
now become very hard to get in my local grocery. Obviously, I'm not the only
person who likes them. G Do you notice a difference between the miss meringues
and TJ's brands?

Joyce

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:02:12 -0800, Fred wrote:

They have mini-very choc and the coconut. Oh, yeah, the Maintain is
successful on a week by week.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 03:02:00 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey, up that little bit is definitely nothing major ... and I see you are still
well in the 157's as well as below goal .. thus ... MAINTAINING SUCCESSFULLY!
Good for you, Fred!

I was just at Trader Joe's on Monday, didn't even think to check out their
meringue section as I had given up on them ever having any mini's. I might have
to try the coconut. I tried the miss meringue coconut cookies, nothing special
... hopefully these are much better. Let's hope they introduce more flavors in
the mini sizes!

Joyce

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:54 -0800, Fred wrote:

Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a bit down and this week is up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's substantial loss, this is great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's Mini-Meringue in Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting, to TJ's and found the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Blood? hmm? no, don't think so. You have any chocolate?

"Fred" wrote in message
...
I already cried UNCLE, what else to you want - blood, Vampira? (g)

I should be up another bit tomorrow, I fear. I should have skipped
dinner but that was not going to happen.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:22:44 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Tee Hee in case you missed it the dang scale said 155 this morning. My
average is even going to be great this week!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
UNCLE!!!! I give!!! You win!! Who cares about lousy beans and rice
- its water and nothing else! (G)

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:48:25 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Ah, I did not calculate the points, since I am currently 156. . I
would
guess about 6 per cup. It is pretty juicy.
A cup of it is very filling however.
With a little salad, or steamed veggies on the side
"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds good.

And how many points? Other than my twice weekly teriaki chicken at
lunch (half and then the other as a fast dinner or a
work-at-home-day-lunch) I do not do rice. Oh, yeah, when as part of
sushi.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:30:39 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh yes, my comfort food. I do them Louisiana style, lots of
seasoning.
Red
pepper, parsley, garlic, a little boquet garni, dry red beans soak
em,
olive
oil, no nitrate lean ham cubes, a real production, but easily done
in
stages
as I pass the kitchen on the way to the washing machine

"Fred" wrote in message
news Was that homemade? Is there any particular seasoning to red
beans
and
rice or just a melange of the two items?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:28:57 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Oh YUM on the sandwich! I had some red beans and rice for
lunch,
also
very
good.

"Fred" wrote in message
news Maybe but it was on the swift road bike. How about extra for
skiing
in the snow and fog today?? Had a pickled herring sandwich
for
lunch
on the ski trip on flax seed bread.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:02:42 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

////well, 23 in the rain probably counts extra...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Rained on and rained out - 23 miles with a gain of 970
feet.
WET,
WET
and WETTER. Oh, well there was some sun for the first 10
miles
(G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:23:51 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, that's it - today's bike ride can't be a wimpy 27
miles,
we
will
have to do the larger 37 mile loop!!!! (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:04:31 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"Fred" Said....

If I recall, just the other day, SOMEONE (one of those
multiple
personas) was saying THEIR leader said THEY should not
be
that
low
because of THAT person's body type.

At this moment I totally agree with her. That pound
between
157
and
156
really really hurts. I am feeling horrible! (Might have
something
to
do
with the sleep deprivation...) I do feel very physically
depleted
though,
and cannot get enough to eat. Ate like a horse
yesterday.
I
will
no
doubt
go back up a couple here any time. So Maybe.... You ALL
already
win
next
week. Yall might still have a chance.


On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:37:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

We are having a busy time here, Mom is very weak. I
am
really
working.
156
again this morning

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
It is annoying and may interfere with any ski plans.
The
weather
this
week was perfect. Now the weekend is here and rain
is
expected.
Oh,
well....

Your sentences are getting rather abbreviated.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:11:35 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Well. It won't get you, you too tough

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yup. I trying to determine who I blame it on!
They
are
dead!
(G)

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:01:41 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

aw you are sick Too. I hate colds

"Fred" wrote in
message

.. .
Well, after lots of meringues yesterday, last
night
it
was
two
pickles
at 9pm and no more points. I think the cold
(as
in
sniffles,
not
outside temps) has not helped my mood.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:50:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Fred I was real upset by my two ups and the
hard
time
I
was
having,
but I
am
at a new low this morning. Life happens, I
think
maybe
an
occational
refeed
is necessary metabolically. I also thing if
you
stay
Here
(which
is
what
kept the focus for me during the Up) you will
come
down
again.
I
was
already started down again before this crisis
hit.
Before
that,
I
was
in
kind of a panic over it. Because I was So
hungry.
Just
try
to
toss a
high
volume low point day in there once or twice
and
you
will
break
out
of
those
munchies.


"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
I am listening to myself THIS WEEK. Next
week
is
another
thing.
I
don't like to think of another up week so
we
shall
see.
But
the
food
cravings continue.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:53:41 -0600, Prairie
Roots

wrote:

I hope you're listening to yourself and
remembering
that
lifetime
means a bit up and a bit down. Even with a
..8
gain,
you're
doing
extremely well.



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a
bit
down
and
this
week
is
up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's
substantial
loss,
this
is
great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's
Mini-Meringue
in
Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting,
to
TJ's
and
found
the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted
coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Prairie Roots
232/163.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Always. You want trader joe's very dark, high choc solids? You want
organic dark choc with mint filling? Choc meringues, Choc cake. Choc
covered orange jelly strings? Choc covered ginger? M&M's? Then
there are the choc chips in the two types of Trader Joe gorps. They
are all downstairs........................

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:04:18 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Blood? hmm? no, don't think so. You have any chocolate?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I already cried UNCLE, what else to you want - blood, Vampira? (g)

I should be up another bit tomorrow, I fear. I should have skipped
dinner but that was not going to happen.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:22:44 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Tee Hee in case you missed it the dang scale said 155 this morning. My
average is even going to be great this week!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
UNCLE!!!! I give!!! You win!! Who cares about lousy beans and rice
- its water and nothing else! (G)

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:48:25 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Ah, I did not calculate the points, since I am currently 156. . I
would
guess about 6 per cup. It is pretty juicy.
A cup of it is very filling however.
With a little salad, or steamed veggies on the side
"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds good.

And how many points? Other than my twice weekly teriaki chicken at
lunch (half and then the other as a fast dinner or a
work-at-home-day-lunch) I do not do rice. Oh, yeah, when as part of
sushi.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:30:39 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh yes, my comfort food. I do them Louisiana style, lots of
seasoning.
Red
pepper, parsley, garlic, a little boquet garni, dry red beans soak
em,
olive
oil, no nitrate lean ham cubes, a real production, but easily done
in
stages
as I pass the kitchen on the way to the washing machine

"Fred" wrote in message
news Was that homemade? Is there any particular seasoning to red
beans
and
rice or just a melange of the two items?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:28:57 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Oh YUM on the sandwich! I had some red beans and rice for
lunch,
also
very
good.

"Fred" wrote in message
news Maybe but it was on the swift road bike. How about extra for
skiing
in the snow and fog today?? Had a pickled herring sandwich
for
lunch
on the ski trip on flax seed bread.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:02:42 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

////well, 23 in the rain probably counts extra...

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Rained on and rained out - 23 miles with a gain of 970
feet.
WET,
WET
and WETTER. Oh, well there was some sun for the first 10
miles
(G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:23:51 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Okay, that's it - today's bike ride can't be a wimpy 27
miles,
we
will
have to do the larger 37 mile loop!!!! (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:04:31 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"Fred" Said....

If I recall, just the other day, SOMEONE (one of those
multiple
personas) was saying THEIR leader said THEY should not
be
that
low
because of THAT person's body type.

At this moment I totally agree with her. That pound
between
157
and
156
really really hurts. I am feeling horrible! (Might have
something
to
do
with the sleep deprivation...) I do feel very physically
depleted
though,
and cannot get enough to eat. Ate like a horse
yesterday.
I
will
no
doubt
go back up a couple here any time. So Maybe.... You ALL
already
win
next
week. Yall might still have a chance.


On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:37:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

We are having a busy time here, Mom is very weak. I
am
really
working.
156
again this morning

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
It is annoying and may interfere with any ski plans.
The
weather
this
week was perfect. Now the weekend is here and rain
is
expected.
Oh,
well....

Your sentences are getting rather abbreviated.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 01:11:35 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Well. It won't get you, you too tough

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yup. I trying to determine who I blame it on!
They
are
dead!
(G)

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:01:41 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

aw you are sick Too. I hate colds

"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
Well, after lots of meringues yesterday, last
night
it
was
two
pickles
at 9pm and no more points. I think the cold
(as
in
sniffles,
not
outside temps) has not helped my mood.

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:50:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Fred I was real upset by my two ups and the
hard
time
I
was
having,
but I
am
at a new low this morning. Life happens, I
think
maybe
an
occational
refeed
is necessary metabolically. I also thing if
you
stay
Here
(which
is
what
kept the focus for me during the Up) you will
come
down
again.
I
was
already started down again before this crisis
hit.
Before
that,
I
was
in
kind of a panic over it. Because I was So
hungry.
Just
try
to
toss a
high
volume low point day in there once or twice
and
you
will
break
out
of
those
munchies.


"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
I am listening to myself THIS WEEK. Next
week
is
another
thing.
I
don't like to think of another up week so
we
shall
see.
But
the
food
cravings continue.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:53:41 -0600, Prairie
Roots

wrote:

I hope you're listening to yourself and
remembering
that
lifetime
means a bit up and a bit down. Even with a
.8
gain,
you're
doing
extremely well.



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:54 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a
bit
down
and
this
week
is
up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's
substantial
loss,
this
is
great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's
Mini-Meringue
in
Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting,
to
TJ's
and
found
the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted
coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Prairie Roots
232/163.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

What is interesting is that I now have more breads in the house than
before WW. Most are high fiber and I use them mainly for the weekend
jaunts for sandwiches which I find are better for hunger than the
handful of this, handful of that, that I use to eat while
hiking/skiing. So I make a very skinny peanut butter (less than
tablespoon) and jelly (less than teaspoon) sandwich or two with 1
point bread slices. But muffins, cookies, crackers are pretty much
not purchased anymore. Altho, I will admit that the "brownie" bites
that Costco sells keep catching my eye but I have resisted and never
given in.

Oh, LESANNE, forgot those Costco FRANGO types of choc down there,
also. (G)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:44:27 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Then we're even. No lasagna for you, no dried guava for me. I normally don't
look at the breads either, is one of those items I pretty much stay away from. I
had seen the muffins listed in their little newspaper/newsletter thing that is
mailed to the house and thought they sounded good. I was very pleasantly
surprised when I found that the nutritional information was friendly also.

Joyce

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:23:12 -0800, Fred wrote:

That sounds pretty good. I have not looked at any of the "super"
bread-extras - just a loaf on occasion. Still never did find your
lasagna either.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:05:23 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Too late - you knew I wasn't going to pass this one up! Trader Joe's 99% fat free
Blueberry Wheat Bran Muffins ... 1 muffin, about 2 oz., 110 cal/0.5g fat/5g fiber,
1.44 US points. They really are good! Not a large sized muffin, but a bit bigger
than the mini muffin types. Maybe a small cupcake? hehehe There are no
preservatives, took me a while to figure that out (too bad I didn't read the
package where it is stated very clearly). The first two packages I bought turned
moldy within 2 or 3 days. I have since learned ... put them in a zipper bag and
keep refrigerated for a bit longer life. My TJ's has them near the english
muffins/breads - stacked on a display table in the center of the aisle. Go for
it! They really do make a nice snack alternative.

Joyce

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:24:46 -0800, Fred wrote:

Hmm, how many points for those blueberry bran muffins - NO! don't tell
me...... (G)

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:25:22 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I've put them on my list for the next time I head to Trader Joe's. Not sure when
that will be as I'm currently stocked up on soup, english muffins and blueberry
bran muffins. I'm sure I'll come up with *something* that will drag me there soon
though. G

Joyce

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:59:39 -0800, Fred wrote:

I decided to try the coconut and they were much too good - better than
expected.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:22:17 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Sorry about the gain Fred, but it's just a little one and will be gone in no
time I'm sure.
Mmmm.... toasted coconut, one of my favorites!

Brenda

"Fred" wrote in message
newsl1l20hvic4qa9hakbbbprlvjnmgu3f6h3@4ax .com...
Remember - lifetime means a bit up and a bit down and this week is up.

Current Wt: 157.6
Gain: 0.8


Feeling pretty good with last week's substantial loss, this is great.

Of course, I just discovered Trader Joe's Mini-Meringue in Coconut
flavor and I mean just - out of meeting, to TJ's and found the
meringues. good stuff - like toasted coconut.

Fred
219.2/157.6/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002