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Old April 11th, 2005, 02:09 AM
GaryG
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"Phil" wrote in message
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Psst, I have an A1c of 5.1 with no meds or expensive
supplements. I can give you my solution for free.



Indeed, the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach is for free:


If you going to pretend to be a doctor, you will have to improve your
grammar. It is either free, not "for" free, or it is for nothing.

I had a look at your various ego-droppings as listed in your earlier
post and I have a suggestion for you. Just add a sig to your posts that
says, "I am a ****wit, I know nothing about medicine and less about
Christianity". That way any newcomers could reach that rather obvious
conclusion without wading through all your ****. Think about it, you
would be doing a public service, and isn't that a part of being a good
Christian?

You obviously haven't read the Bible in depth as it does explain quite
clearly what an omer is. You might not care to, or more likely, you will
try to bull****, so I will prove you wrong.

Firstly, it is described "the tenth part of an ephah,

Exodus 16:36
Now an omer [is] the tenth [part] of an ephah.

Next, an ephah is mentioned in several places, and although not defined
exactly in modern terms you can see what its approximate size must be.

In Zechariah 5:6 - 5:10 it makes it clear that an ephah is large enough
to hold two women. Two women with wings no less, wings the Bible says,
like the wings of a stork. Now if you were right, and an omer is only
two pounds, those two women would have to fit into a twenty pound
container. Is this what you are saying, or are you disputing the
veracity of the Bible?

In Leviticus 19:36 it says that an ephah is an exact measure, not a
casual container of varying sizes. So we have an exact measure, large
enough to hold two women, and a verse that defines a omer as one tenth
of that measure. Now allow those women to be small, say only 100 lbs
each, and squashed together very closely in that ephah, and we are
looking at AT LEAST a container capable of holding 220-250 lb.

That would make a omer at least 22-25 pounds, AS DETERMINED BY YOUR OWN
BIBLE! The reality is that those women would weight 150lbs or better and
that they would require room to get into that ephah, so 300-350lbs would
probably be closer to the mark.

It seems that you know very little of medicine, less of the Bible.
You are a little like an A.A. Milne character, a being of very little
brain.

Why don't you go away and sit in a corner and actually READ the Bible
before making a fool of yourself again.


Oh, and you had better rename your, er, um, diet.

Phil


You may as well save your breath...Chung is an indefatigable nutcase. He
tends to post here in roughly two week cycles (bipolar?). He's been quiet
for a couple of weeks, but seems to be entering another "up" phase...be
patient, he'll probably go away again in a week or so.

FWIW, he does not care what others think of him, as his only purpose is to
promote the "truth" he thinks he hears in his head. In fact, he seems to
derive some weird sort of please when people abuse him...presumably, he
enjoys the attention, and being yelled at makes him feel persecuted (thus,
allowing him to see himself as a true "prophet").

If you Google his name, you'll see that he used to be more lucid and
rational, but seems to have become increasingly bizarre and hyperreligous
over the last few years.

Attempting to engage him in rational discourse about his cross-posting,
off-topic, antisocial behavior is unproductive. However, it can sometimes
be amusing as sport...just don't expect him to change.

GG


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Old April 11th, 2005, 02:47 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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GaryG wrote:

snip
You may as well save your breath...Chung is an indefatigable...


My Lord is the source of infinite strength, wisdom, and knowledge :-)

All the glory belongs to my heavenly Father, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength ))

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Old April 11th, 2005, 02:47 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Phil wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Psst, I have an A1c of 5.1 with no meds or expensive
supplements. I can give you my solution for free.


Indeed, the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach is for free:


If you going to pretend to be a doctor,


In truth, I am a doctor (more specifically a cardiologist).

you will have to improve your
grammar. It is either free, not "for" free, or it is for nothing.


It was my choice to use the same grammar "style" as the OP for
**effect**.

Sorry if that bothers you.

Hope you don't mind my snipping the parts of your post that contain
obscenities.

snip

Firstly, it is described "the tenth part of an ephah,

Exodus 16:36
Now an omer [is] the tenth [part] of an ephah.


My Lord instructs me to add parentheses like so:

(Now and omer [is] the tenth [part] of an ephah.)

.... and reread Exodus 16:33 to confirm that 16:36 should belong in
parentheses.

Next, an ephah is mentioned in several places, and although not defined
exactly in modern terms you can see what its approximate size must be.

In Zechariah 5:6 - 5:10 it makes it clear that an ephah is large enough
to hold two women. Two women with wings no less, wings the Bible says,
like the wings of a stork. Now if you were right, and an omer is only
two pounds, those two women would have to fit into a twenty pound
container. Is this what you are saying, or are you disputing the
veracity of the Bible?


Thanks for confirming that 16:36 should belong in parentheses :-)

In Leviticus 19:36 it says that an ephah is an exact measure, not a
casual container of varying sizes. So we have an exact measure, large
enough to hold two women, and a verse that defines a omer as one tenth
of that measure. Now allow those women to be small, say only 100 lbs
each, and squashed together very closely in that ephah, and we are
looking at AT LEAST a container capable of holding 220-250 lb.

That would make a omer at least 22-25 pounds, AS DETERMINED BY YOUR OWN
BIBLE! The reality is that those women would weight 150lbs or better and
that they would require room to get into that ephah, so 300-350lbs would
probably be closer to the mark.


Thanks for further confirming that 16:36 should belong in parentheses
:-)

It seems that you know very little of medicine, less of the Bible.
You are a little like an A.A. Milne character, a being of very little
brain.


Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.

Why don't you go away and sit in a corner and actually READ the Bible
before making a fool of yourself again.


Actually, your "essay" supports the idea that an "omer" of manna likely
weighed about 2 pounds :-)

Oh, and you had better rename your, er, um, diet.


Sorry the 2PD-OMER Approach bothers you so terribly.

You will be in my prayers, dear Phil, whom I love, in Lord Jesus' holy
name.


At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Old April 11th, 2005, 02:54 AM
wendy
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
My Lord is the source of infinite strength, wisdom, and knowledge :-)


Yet he said i can eat 2 pounds of ice cream as a diabetic. Not very wise.
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Old April 11th, 2005, 02:57 AM
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Phil wrote:

If you going to pretend to be a doctor, you will have to improve your
grammar. It is either free, not "for" free, or it is for nothing.




tsk tsk.. "giving" something "for free" is a well established locution.
either ye're pickayune or ya got an axe to grind, ole buddy







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Old April 11th, 2005, 02:58 AM
liaM
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GaryG wrote:

Attempting to engage him in rational discourse about his cross-posting,
off-topic, antisocial behavior is unproductive. However, it can sometimes
be amusing as sport...just don't expect him to change.



prissy
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Old April 11th, 2005, 03:00 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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wendy wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
My Lord is the source of infinite strength, wisdom, and knowledge :-)


Yet he said i can eat 2 pounds of ice cream as a diabetic. Not very wise.


That would be the 2 pounds of ice cream per day diet and **not** the
2PD-OMER Approach.

Sorry if that disappoints you.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Old April 11th, 2005, 04:03 AM
Alan S
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 03:57:31 +0200, liaM
wrote:

Phil wrote:

If you going to pretend to be a doctor, you will have to improve your
grammar. It is either free, not "for" free, or it is for nothing.




tsk tsk.. "giving" something "for free" is a well established locution.
either ye're pickayune or ya got an axe to grind, ole buddy



Another cross-posting dill.


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Old April 11th, 2005, 04:17 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Alan S wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 03:57:31 +0200, liaM
wrote:

Phil wrote:

If you going to pretend to be a doctor, you will have to improve your
grammar. It is either free, not "for" free, or it is for nothing.




tsk tsk.. "giving" something "for free" is a well established locution.
either ye're pickayune or ya got an axe to grind, ole buddy



Another cross-posting dill.


Actually, the guy's name is Phil.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?V113154DA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Old April 11th, 2005, 04:56 AM
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"Phil" wrote in message
...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Psst, I have an A1c of 5.1 with no meds or expensive
supplements. I can give you my solution for free.



Indeed, the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach is for free:


If you going to pretend to be a doctor, you will have to improve your
grammar. It is either free, not "for" free, or it is for nothing.

I had a look at your various ego-droppings as listed in your earlier
post and I have a suggestion for you. Just add a sig to your posts that
says, "I am a ****wit, I know nothing about medicine and less about
Christianity". That way any newcomers could reach that rather obvious
conclusion without wading through all your ****. Think about it, you
would be doing a public service, and isn't that a part of being a good
Christian?

You obviously haven't read the Bible in depth as it does explain quite
clearly what an omer is. You might not care to, or more likely, you will
try to bull****, so I will prove you wrong.

Firstly, it is described "the tenth part of an ephah,

Exodus 16:36
Now an omer [is] the tenth [part] of an ephah.

Next, an ephah is mentioned in several places, and although not defined
exactly in modern terms you can see what its approximate size must be.

In Zechariah 5:6 - 5:10 it makes it clear that an ephah is large enough
to hold two women. Two women with wings no less, wings the Bible says,
like the wings of a stork. Now if you were right, and an omer is only
two pounds, those two women would have to fit into a twenty pound
container. Is this what you are saying, or are you disputing the
veracity of the Bible?

In Leviticus 19:36 it says that an ephah is an exact measure, not a
casual container of varying sizes. So we have an exact measure, large
enough to hold two women, and a verse that defines a omer as one tenth
of that measure. Now allow those women to be small, say only 100 lbs
each, and squashed together very closely in that ephah, and we are
looking at AT LEAST a container capable of holding 220-250 lb.

That would make a omer at least 22-25 pounds, AS DETERMINED BY YOUR OWN
BIBLE! The reality is that those women would weight 150lbs or better and
that they would require room to get into that ephah, so 300-350lbs would
probably be closer to the mark.

It seems that you know very little of medicine, less of the Bible.
You are a little like an A.A. Milne character, a being of very little
brain.

Why don't you go away and sit in a corner and actually READ the Bible
before making a fool of yourself again.


Oh, and you had better rename your, er, um, diet.

Phil


Actually, you are partly wrong, but correct in the important facts and in
the conclusion that Chung is a chump.

An ephah and an omer are both dry measures, not weights at all (which is
what Chung claims) and not volumes (or 2 women). And ephah is generally
believed to be about a bushes or 33 liters, so an omer is about 3½ liters.
Close to a gallon.

It is not a weight, Andy. No more than a peck is a weight.

So with your "dye it" one could and should eat and drink a total of 2
gallons of fluid and food a day. Since most people should drink a gallon of
liquid, that leaves 16 cups of food. Unless they are eating raw zucchini,
that's a hell of a lot of food for a diabetic, but it could be all right.

Andy is still an idiot.

Pernod


 




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