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  #21  
Old December 17th, 2004, 05:05 AM
Auntie Em
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I think that you are way too stupid, way too self gratifying, and way
too irresponsible to ever be slim. That much stupidity requires a lot
of weight to support it.

Bye fatty.

Twinkles


You forgot the "have a nice day" part.

Em
rolling her eyes.
Be careful what you wish for....
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Old December 17th, 2004, 05:13 AM
Twinkles
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The study proved nothing other than it was a flawed and biased study.
Everyone derives some benefit from exercise. I notice that some people
seem to pounce joyfully on any suggestion that perhaps exercising has
no value. The lazy people who need to justify their sloth.

Twinkles

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Old December 17th, 2004, 05:13 AM
Twinkles
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The study proved nothing other than it was a flawed and biased study.
Everyone derives some benefit from exercise. I notice that some people
seem to pounce joyfully on any suggestion that perhaps exercising has
no value. The lazy people who need to justify their sloth.

Twinkles

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Old December 17th, 2004, 05:31 AM
Fairweather Princess
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Well, the main thing would be lots of carbohydrates. Lots of bread,
potatoes, rice, pasta. Yum. And I also like lots of fatty things.
Lunch meat (salami primarily, although ham is ok too), pre-packaged
stuff (Hot Pockets, frozen pizza, "Grillers" (OMG something
healthy????????). Also cheese (cheddar and "real" cheese slices). I
also drink my fair share of beer because I like it as a beverage.
Other than that I MUST have my one Red Bull a day to survive. LOL.

I know you are going to ask about vegetables. I will eat (canned)
corn, peas, black-eyed peas (my favorites), refried beans, raw
carrots, raw celery, raw radishes, CRUNCHY lettuce (no lawn clippings
for me - gotta have that crunch), sweat potatoes, cole slaw...that's
about it for veggies.

No fruit. Hate fruit. Don't like sweet stuff.

Walnuts. I like whole grain stuff like Tabuli and cracked wheat
pilaf. I like boiled eggs.

Beef, lamb, chicken, duck, tuna-in-a-can, shrimp (when I can afford to
splurge).

That's about it.

WHat do you think, Ig?


mmmm....so much food to work with and at 1400 calories you have so much
to work with. I'm going to assume that you wake up around 10 am which
gives you a meager 6 hours of sleep.

i would do this:
10:30ish first meal: (omg, where's my calorie book, why is it never
here when i'm looking for it?!!!) two slices of toasted wheat bread,
with crust removed (i don't like bread crust)(150) and 3 oz of turkey
meat (200) and milk (skim, 100). (total: 450)

13:30 second meal: hot pocket (300) snack: baby carrots with dijonnaise
(50 cals) (total: 350; cumulative 800)

18:00 snack: quarter of a cup planters walnuts (200)(total: 200;
cumulative 1000)

22:00 third meal: boiled yam (100) 6 oz canned Tuna (200), dijonnaise
(or mayo, if you're absolutely dying for that, but only low fat or low
cal, your choice)(omg, i just checked my calorie book they have these
low cal versions that's only like 10 cals/tbsp, so that means you can go
to town with 5 tbsp of that and that'll only be 50 cals!!! sure the
transfat is bad for you, but i'm sure it beats dying from being a
fat-ass.) (anyway, that's like 350 calores; total thus far 1350)

2:00 snack: carrots with mustard or even some of that wonderful
10cal/tbsp mayonnaise...must hunt that down...or celery, or whatever
crispy vegetables you have lying around your place. vegetables are like
the foo-foo's of diet world. I don't actually believe their calories
actually do anything other than look good on my spread sheet. (but
sure, you want a number don't you? let's say 80. cumulative for the day?
1430.)

i tried to pack your "meals" with substantial stuff like bread, potatos,
and protein. those really tie me over until the next meal -- i like
that "full" feeling too -- so my portion size tend to run pretty high too.

I would actually take this mock menu and assign myself heavy and light
days. like on a heavy day i'd eat 1500 (cut out some of the foo foo
veggies and grab myself some mashed potato or whatever.) (or cut out
some of the oils and treat myself to a larger plate of pasta.) and then
next day I'd cut down to 1300 or 1200 (you can't have walnuts for snack
EVERYDAY, can you?, and hot pockets EVERYDAY? that's just silly, how
about two boiled eggs instead?)

a formerly anorexic friend of mine told me that she used to mix her days
up calorie wise so her body "never" knows how much to predict. She'd
eat more on the weekends so that she can starve herself on the weekdays
-- hey it worked for her. she's still a bean pole but nowadays she eats
a good 1500 a day. Rumor has it that sometimes she has been spotted to
eat a whole half of a snicker's candy bar. (i'll believe it when i see
it.)

and diet is such an ugly word. I prefer it to call it "my precious."

second meal:
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Old December 17th, 2004, 05:31 AM
Fairweather Princess
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Well, the main thing would be lots of carbohydrates. Lots of bread,
potatoes, rice, pasta. Yum. And I also like lots of fatty things.
Lunch meat (salami primarily, although ham is ok too), pre-packaged
stuff (Hot Pockets, frozen pizza, "Grillers" (OMG something
healthy????????). Also cheese (cheddar and "real" cheese slices). I
also drink my fair share of beer because I like it as a beverage.
Other than that I MUST have my one Red Bull a day to survive. LOL.

I know you are going to ask about vegetables. I will eat (canned)
corn, peas, black-eyed peas (my favorites), refried beans, raw
carrots, raw celery, raw radishes, CRUNCHY lettuce (no lawn clippings
for me - gotta have that crunch), sweat potatoes, cole slaw...that's
about it for veggies.

No fruit. Hate fruit. Don't like sweet stuff.

Walnuts. I like whole grain stuff like Tabuli and cracked wheat
pilaf. I like boiled eggs.

Beef, lamb, chicken, duck, tuna-in-a-can, shrimp (when I can afford to
splurge).

That's about it.

WHat do you think, Ig?


mmmm....so much food to work with and at 1400 calories you have so much
to work with. I'm going to assume that you wake up around 10 am which
gives you a meager 6 hours of sleep.

i would do this:
10:30ish first meal: (omg, where's my calorie book, why is it never
here when i'm looking for it?!!!) two slices of toasted wheat bread,
with crust removed (i don't like bread crust)(150) and 3 oz of turkey
meat (200) and milk (skim, 100). (total: 450)

13:30 second meal: hot pocket (300) snack: baby carrots with dijonnaise
(50 cals) (total: 350; cumulative 800)

18:00 snack: quarter of a cup planters walnuts (200)(total: 200;
cumulative 1000)

22:00 third meal: boiled yam (100) 6 oz canned Tuna (200), dijonnaise
(or mayo, if you're absolutely dying for that, but only low fat or low
cal, your choice)(omg, i just checked my calorie book they have these
low cal versions that's only like 10 cals/tbsp, so that means you can go
to town with 5 tbsp of that and that'll only be 50 cals!!! sure the
transfat is bad for you, but i'm sure it beats dying from being a
fat-ass.) (anyway, that's like 350 calores; total thus far 1350)

2:00 snack: carrots with mustard or even some of that wonderful
10cal/tbsp mayonnaise...must hunt that down...or celery, or whatever
crispy vegetables you have lying around your place. vegetables are like
the foo-foo's of diet world. I don't actually believe their calories
actually do anything other than look good on my spread sheet. (but
sure, you want a number don't you? let's say 80. cumulative for the day?
1430.)

i tried to pack your "meals" with substantial stuff like bread, potatos,
and protein. those really tie me over until the next meal -- i like
that "full" feeling too -- so my portion size tend to run pretty high too.

I would actually take this mock menu and assign myself heavy and light
days. like on a heavy day i'd eat 1500 (cut out some of the foo foo
veggies and grab myself some mashed potato or whatever.) (or cut out
some of the oils and treat myself to a larger plate of pasta.) and then
next day I'd cut down to 1300 or 1200 (you can't have walnuts for snack
EVERYDAY, can you?, and hot pockets EVERYDAY? that's just silly, how
about two boiled eggs instead?)

a formerly anorexic friend of mine told me that she used to mix her days
up calorie wise so her body "never" knows how much to predict. She'd
eat more on the weekends so that she can starve herself on the weekdays
-- hey it worked for her. she's still a bean pole but nowadays she eats
a good 1500 a day. Rumor has it that sometimes she has been spotted to
eat a whole half of a snicker's candy bar. (i'll believe it when i see
it.)

and diet is such an ugly word. I prefer it to call it "my precious."

second meal:
  #26  
Old December 17th, 2004, 05:40 AM
Fairweather Princess
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Twinkles wrote:
Auntie Em wrote:

On 17 Dec 2004 03:56:29 GMT, Ignoramus5102
wrote:


What are those foods that you actually like? Personally, I do not


eat

anything I do not like.

i


Well, the main thing would be lots of carbohydrates. Lots of bread,
potatoes, rice, pasta. Yum. And I also like lots of fatty things.
Lunch meat (salami primarily, although ham is ok too), pre-packaged
stuff (Hot Pockets, frozen pizza, "Grillers" (OMG something
healthy????????). Also cheese (cheddar and "real" cheese slices). I
also drink my fair share of beer because I like it as a beverage.
Other than that I MUST have my one Red Bull a day to survive. LOL.

I know you are going to ask about vegetables. I will eat (canned)
corn, peas, black-eyed peas (my favorites), refried beans, raw
carrots, raw celery, raw radishes, CRUNCHY lettuce (no lawn clippings
for me - gotta have that crunch), sweat potatoes, cole slaw...that's
about it for veggies.

No fruit. Hate fruit. Don't like sweet stuff.

Walnuts. I like whole grain stuff like Tabuli and cracked wheat
pilaf. I like boiled eggs.

Beef, lamb, chicken, duck, tuna-in-a-can, shrimp (when I can afford


to

splurge).

That's about it.

WHat do you think, Ig?



I think that you are way too stupid, way too self gratifying, and way
too irresponsible to ever be slim. That much stupidity requires a lot
of weight to support it.

Bye fatty.

Twinkles


and you're an asshole. what are we talking about again?
  #27  
Old December 17th, 2004, 05:41 AM
Fairweather Princess
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Fairweather Princess wrote:

Well, the main thing would be lots of carbohydrates. Lots of bread,
potatoes, rice, pasta. Yum. And I also like lots of fatty things.
Lunch meat (salami primarily, although ham is ok too), pre-packaged
stuff (Hot Pockets, frozen pizza, "Grillers" (OMG something
healthy????????). Also cheese (cheddar and "real" cheese slices). I
also drink my fair share of beer because I like it as a beverage.
Other than that I MUST have my one Red Bull a day to survive. LOL.

I know you are going to ask about vegetables. I will eat (canned)
corn, peas, black-eyed peas (my favorites), refried beans, raw
carrots, raw celery, raw radishes, CRUNCHY lettuce (no lawn clippings
for me - gotta have that crunch), sweat potatoes, cole slaw...that's
about it for veggies.

No fruit. Hate fruit. Don't like sweet stuff.

Walnuts. I like whole grain stuff like Tabuli and cracked wheat
pilaf. I like boiled eggs.
Beef, lamb, chicken, duck, tuna-in-a-can, shrimp (when I can afford to
splurge).
That's about it.

WHat do you think, Ig?



mmmm....so much food to work with and at 1400 calories you have so much
to work with. I'm going to assume that you wake up around 10 am which
gives you a meager 6 hours of sleep.

i would do this:
10:30ish first meal: (omg, where's my calorie book, why is it never
here when i'm looking for it?!!!) two slices of toasted wheat bread,
with crust removed (i don't like bread crust)(150) and 3 oz of turkey
meat (200) and milk (skim, 100). (total: 450)

13:30 second meal: hot pocket (300) snack: baby carrots with dijonnaise
(50 cals) (total: 350; cumulative 800)

18:00 snack: quarter of a cup planters walnuts (200)(total: 200;
cumulative 1000)

22:00 third meal: boiled yam (100) 6 oz canned Tuna (200), dijonnaise
(or mayo, if you're absolutely dying for that, but only low fat or low
cal, your choice)(omg, i just checked my calorie book they have these
low cal versions that's only like 10 cals/tbsp, so that means you can go
to town with 5 tbsp of that and that'll only be 50 cals!!! sure the
transfat is bad for you, but i'm sure it beats dying from being a
fat-ass.) (anyway, that's like 350 calores; total thus far 1350)

2:00 snack: carrots with mustard or even some of that wonderful
10cal/tbsp mayonnaise...must hunt that down...or celery, or whatever
crispy vegetables you have lying around your place. vegetables are like
the foo-foo's of diet world. I don't actually believe their calories
actually do anything other than look good on my spread sheet. (but
sure, you want a number don't you? let's say 80. cumulative for the day?
1430.)

i tried to pack your "meals" with substantial stuff like bread, potatos,
and protein. those really tie me over until the next meal -- i like
that "full" feeling too -- so my portion size tend to run pretty high too.

I would actually take this mock menu and assign myself heavy and light
days. like on a heavy day i'd eat 1500 (cut out some of the foo foo
veggies and grab myself some mashed potato or whatever.) (or cut out
some of the oils and treat myself to a larger plate of pasta.) and then
next day I'd cut down to 1300 or 1200 (you can't have walnuts for snack
EVERYDAY, can you?, and hot pockets EVERYDAY? that's just silly, how
about two boiled eggs instead?)

a formerly anorexic friend of mine told me that she used to mix her days
up calorie wise so her body "never" knows how much to predict. She'd
eat more on the weekends so that she can starve herself on the weekdays
-- hey it worked for her. she's still a bean pole but nowadays she eats
a good 1500 a day. Rumor has it that sometimes she has been spotted to
eat a whole half of a snicker's candy bar. (i'll believe it when i see
it.)

and diet is such an ugly word. I prefer it to call it "my precious."

second meal:


i didn't proofread my diet plan. sorry.

so the real question is, are you really gonna follow something like this
or are you just gonna nick pick your way out of it?
  #28  
Old December 17th, 2004, 05:51 AM
Fairweather Princess
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Why roll your eyes? You got fat by only eating things you liked,
avoiding what you didn't like, and now you want to get slim the same
way? If that isn't stupid then what is?


oh lord help me...what is your goal here? to make her cry or something?
jesus. people beat themselves up enough already, are you saying that
your life is perfect and that never have you let yourself indulge on
anything for a prolonged period of time?

if the only thing she has too much of is mashed potatos, i would be very
very jealous. Surely you're not insinuating that crack whores have more
self-control than fatties, and therefore is smarter? (if that is what
you believe, then i guess we really don't need to argue about the merit
of your post anymore.)
  #29  
Old December 17th, 2004, 05:51 AM
Fairweather Princess
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Why roll your eyes? You got fat by only eating things you liked,
avoiding what you didn't like, and now you want to get slim the same
way? If that isn't stupid then what is?


oh lord help me...what is your goal here? to make her cry or something?
jesus. people beat themselves up enough already, are you saying that
your life is perfect and that never have you let yourself indulge on
anything for a prolonged period of time?

if the only thing she has too much of is mashed potatos, i would be very
very jealous. Surely you're not insinuating that crack whores have more
self-control than fatties, and therefore is smarter? (if that is what
you believe, then i guess we really don't need to argue about the merit
of your post anymore.)
  #30  
Old December 17th, 2004, 06:03 AM
Concordia
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Auntie Em writes:

Since there are SO MANY things I dislike eating and SO FEW things that
do like eating, I am wondering is there a way to incorporate what I do
like into a daily food regime that will allow me to feel full yet keep
the caloric intake down?


Without knowing what you're willing to eat, that's a difficult to
answer question.

Since it's "SO FEW things", I'd recommend you provide a list.

Maybe that will give others some insight into strategies that might
work for you.
 




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