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Old October 25th, 2004, 11:47 AM
Zap
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Hi,

Im on week two by now and im SO bored with the salad vegetables. I
almost eat none of it by now. I weighed my 100 g. for lunch and
didnt even eat half. Is it possible to eat more of "the other
vegetables" insted of the "salad vegetables"? In what amount if
possible? Im still in the induktion fase and most of the vegetables is
like are in the "other vegetables" column.

Also.. i have been having a couple of days with meat "hate". I simply
couldnt bring myself to eating it. It tasted way to fat even thoug it
was minced meat with very little fat in it. So i just ate my
vegetables. Is that ok if i was full and didnt have hunger issues
later on? Or is there some relation between the meat and greens that
makes it important for me to eat both?

Btw.. 8 pounds in the first week ))))

Zap.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 01:25 PM
jbuch
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Zap wrote:
Hi,

Im on week two by now and im SO bored with the salad vegetables. I
almost eat none of it by now. I weighed my 100 g. for lunch and
didnt even eat half. Is it possible to eat more of "the other
vegetables" insted of the "salad vegetables"? In what amount if
possible? Im still in the induktion fase and most of the vegetables is
like are in the "other vegetables" column.

Also.. i have been having a couple of days with meat "hate". I simply
couldnt bring myself to eating it. It tasted way to fat even thoug it
was minced meat with very little fat in it. So i just ate my
vegetables. Is that ok if i was full and didnt have hunger issues
later on? Or is there some relation between the meat and greens that
makes it important for me to eat both?

Btw.. 8 pounds in the first week ))))

Zap.


Smart move to start. You did the right thing.

Hang in there for a while, maybe just another week.

What veggies _DO_ you like? I am sure that there are some who have
excellent recipes for them, and that gives you a small goal to look
forward to.

I use various dips, dairy, to enhance the flavor and texture of veggies.
It asdds fat in a pleasant sort of way.

At some point, you can even look forward to low carb ice cream. But that
is some time off,

I have not much willpower, and when I bought a half gallon of Breyers
low carb ice cream, I gobbled it up in two days and knocked my weight
loss back for a whole week.

But, now I am back and "It Feels Good" to have gotten those 4 or 5
pounds of indulgence off of my waist.

Also, I would go and look at some of the recipe books for low carb
people. The one by Dr. Atkins and his wife is really excellent. Walmart
price was $9.97.

The other day, I had Chicken Cordon Bleu - chicken breast pounded thin
and folded with ham and swiss cheese, breaded in low carb breading and
sauteed in butter/olive oil. Accompanied with a Romaine lettuce and
cucumber salad with fresh avocado and dill seasoning with Parmesian
cheese and a salad dressing.

Tonight I will have the same chicken, but a medley of asparagus,
broccolli, and chopped green beans with green onions sauteed in olive
oil and butter and topped with a Ranch Flavored Dip.

I am eating better than when I just shoveled large amounts of food in my
tummy till it was STUFFED.

You can eat really great stuff......



From the same ATKINS (Mrs. and Dr.) book:

Greek Salad
Orange Daikon Salad
Red Cabbage Salad with Fets and Dill
Walnut Coleslaw
Fennel Salad with Parmesan
Celery Root Salad
Endove Salad with Walnuts and Roquefort
Mixed Green Salad with Warm BACON Dressing
Shrimp Salad with Hearts of Palm
Crunchy Spinach Salad

Chicken Cordon Bleu
Cprmosj Jems wotj A[rocpt Wome Sauce
Chicken with Lemon and Capers
"Breaded" Chicken Cutlets
Curry Chicken Salad with Cucumbers
Chicken Salad with Fennel and Pesto
Chicken Coconut Satay with Cilantro
Chicken with Cucumbers
Chicken Paprika
Chicken with Indian Spipces
Creamed Chicken with Mushrooms
Tomatillo Chicken
Breast of Duck with Red Wine Sauce....


And a hundred moe

With really great lists of what goods you get to add as you progress
throught the four stages.

You have a great life to look forward to, and you can be thin enough to
bounce around and enjoy it.


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Old October 25th, 2004, 01:40 PM
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If you have an aversion to fats, your low carb diet will fail.

Sorry.

"Zap" wrote in message
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Hi,

Im on week two by now and im SO bored with the salad vegetables. I
almost eat none of it by now. I weighed my 100 g. for lunch and
didnt even eat half. Is it possible to eat more of "the other
vegetables" insted of the "salad vegetables"? In what amount if
possible? Im still in the induktion fase and most of the vegetables is
like are in the "other vegetables" column.

Also.. i have been having a couple of days with meat "hate". I simply
couldnt bring myself to eating it. It tasted way to fat even thoug it
was minced meat with very little fat in it. So i just ate my
vegetables. Is that ok if i was full and didnt have hunger issues
later on? Or is there some relation between the meat and greens that
makes it important for me to eat both?

Btw.. 8 pounds in the first week ))))

Zap.



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Old October 25th, 2004, 02:25 PM
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Zap wrote:
Im on week two by now and im SO bored with the salad vegetables. I
almost eat none of it by now. I weighed my 100 g. for lunch and
didnt even eat half. Is it possible to eat more of "the other
vegetables" insted of the "salad vegetables"? In what amount if
possible? Im still in the induktion fase and most of the vegetables is
like are in the "other vegetables" column.


Skip the induction phase and eat what you will eat
for the rest of your life. At that time you can eat
different kinds of foods. Try kung pao chicken, for example.
It takes some creativity, though it's not a burden, it
can be fun.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 02:25 PM
Jeremy K
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Zap wrote:
Im on week two by now and im SO bored with the salad vegetables. I
almost eat none of it by now. I weighed my 100 g. for lunch and
didnt even eat half. Is it possible to eat more of "the other
vegetables" insted of the "salad vegetables"? In what amount if
possible? Im still in the induktion fase and most of the vegetables is
like are in the "other vegetables" column.


Skip the induction phase and eat what you will eat
for the rest of your life. At that time you can eat
different kinds of foods. Try kung pao chicken, for example.
It takes some creativity, though it's not a burden, it
can be fun.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 04:21 PM
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You want to keep eating the vegetables. Some will say "stick just by
the book", but in real life, YMMV. Yes, I ate a variety of greens, not
just salad greens, and I still lost weight. You could try sprouts or
cooked veggies (that the book allows).

You don't need to just eat meat - you can eat fish and eggs too, and
once you're off Induction, some vegetarian products (watch the carbs).
For example, Morningstar Farms veggie sausage has only one carb per
serving.

You should eat a variety of things to keep from getting bored.
Starting Atkins doesn't mean you have to eat beef every day of the
week. I eat mostly chicken and fish.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 04:54 PM
Zap
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Hi All,

I dont have an aversion to fat per say. I just dont like too much fat
and since we have been eating meats for a whole week in big amounts to
keep full i think i just got "enough" kind of like i got enough of the
salad. Perhaps i should try thinking about meats in small bites in
some kind of gravy or sauce with veggies in it.
Frankly there isnt much on the salad list that i truely like. I like
the lettuce of course but other than that there is only cucumber,
mushrooms, pepper, chives and parsley which makes for a really boring
salad. I SO miss tomatoes in my salad. I know its allowed but since i
treasure the other vegetabels for my dinner and really dont feel
satisfied unless i eat the 200 g. thats allowed its not an option to
just "take away" from that. Hence my question. Could i use one tomato
and eat 100 g. of salad vegetables and eat NO MORE salad vegetables
that day? Somehow it should be possible but i guess its a matter of
calculation?
So if i decide to do the math my self can anyone here tell my how many
carbs is in 340 g of the salad vegetables?
How many in the 90-110 g of cheese?
How many in 200 g. of other vegetables?
Some calculation must have gone into this since "you can eat all this
and stay under 20 g. of carbs a day" but i dont know where to find
the figures. I realise there is a difference in the amount of carbs in
for instance lettuce and cucumber but some overall calculation must
have been made.
Oh well.. perhaps i should just suck it up for the final week. And i
do think you are right about me not have such a big appetite as i used
to and not being able to tell that thats how being pleaseantly full
actually fells. Also - compared to the low fat diets which i have been
on and off for years - no success - have teached me that most of what
i eat on this diet is BAD for me. So thats kind of.. oh who am i
kidding - thats freaking weird and i feel like a total sinner eating
my bacon in the morning and eating my egg salad with fullfat mayo for
lunch.

Thanks you guys.

Zap

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Old October 25th, 2004, 04:54 PM
Zap
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Hi All,

I dont have an aversion to fat per say. I just dont like too much fat
and since we have been eating meats for a whole week in big amounts to
keep full i think i just got "enough" kind of like i got enough of the
salad. Perhaps i should try thinking about meats in small bites in
some kind of gravy or sauce with veggies in it.
Frankly there isnt much on the salad list that i truely like. I like
the lettuce of course but other than that there is only cucumber,
mushrooms, pepper, chives and parsley which makes for a really boring
salad. I SO miss tomatoes in my salad. I know its allowed but since i
treasure the other vegetabels for my dinner and really dont feel
satisfied unless i eat the 200 g. thats allowed its not an option to
just "take away" from that. Hence my question. Could i use one tomato
and eat 100 g. of salad vegetables and eat NO MORE salad vegetables
that day? Somehow it should be possible but i guess its a matter of
calculation?
So if i decide to do the math my self can anyone here tell my how many
carbs is in 340 g of the salad vegetables?
How many in the 90-110 g of cheese?
How many in 200 g. of other vegetables?
Some calculation must have gone into this since "you can eat all this
and stay under 20 g. of carbs a day" but i dont know where to find
the figures. I realise there is a difference in the amount of carbs in
for instance lettuce and cucumber but some overall calculation must
have been made.
Oh well.. perhaps i should just suck it up for the final week. And i
do think you are right about me not have such a big appetite as i used
to and not being able to tell that thats how being pleaseantly full
actually fells. Also - compared to the low fat diets which i have been
on and off for years - no success - have teached me that most of what
i eat on this diet is BAD for me. So thats kind of.. oh who am i
kidding - thats freaking weird and i feel like a total sinner eating
my bacon in the morning and eating my egg salad with fullfat mayo for
lunch.

Thanks you guys.

Zap

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Old October 25th, 2004, 05:40 PM
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In article ,
Zap wrote:

Hi All,

I dont have an aversion to fat per say. I just dont like too much fat
and since we have been eating meats for a whole week in big amounts to
keep full i think i just got "enough" kind of like i got enough of the
salad. Perhaps i should try thinking about meats in small bites in
some kind of gravy or sauce with veggies in it.
Frankly there isnt much on the salad list that i truely like. I like
the lettuce of course but other than that there is only cucumber,
mushrooms, pepper, chives and parsley which makes for a really boring
salad. I SO miss tomatoes in my salad. I know its allowed but since i
treasure the other vegetabels for my dinner and really dont feel
satisfied unless i eat the 200 g. thats allowed its not an option to
just "take away" from that. Hence my question. Could i use one tomato
and eat 100 g. of salad vegetables and eat NO MORE salad vegetables
that day? Somehow it should be possible but i guess its a matter of
calculation?


You can set up a free account at fitday.com to log everything you eat, and
it will calculate the carbs for you (as well as protein, calories, fat, etc)

Also - compared to the low fat diets which i have been
on and off for years - no success - have teached me that most of what
i eat on this diet is BAD for me. So thats kind of.. oh who am i
kidding - thats freaking weird and i feel like a total sinner eating
my bacon in the morning and eating my egg salad with fullfat mayo for
lunch.

Thanks you guys.

Zap


What helped me to get over feeling guilty for eating "fattening" foods was
the thought that this way of eating is closer to what people ate before
food was so processed. Our ancient ancestors hunted and gathered, and they
sure as hell ate the fatty parts of the meat. I no longer think of fat as
"bad," nor do I think of carbs as "bad" actually. You can lose weight on
low-carb, you can lose weight on low-fat. What's "bad" is a lot of carbs
and a lot of fat _together_. You have discovered yourself that fat in the
absence of excess carbs doesn't induce overeating. In fact, it's the
opposite, you're actually starting to feel full before you've eaten too
much, which is the whole point.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 05:46 PM
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"Zap" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I dont have an aversion to fat per say. I just dont like too much fat
and since we have been eating meats for a whole week in big amounts to
keep full i think i just got "enough" kind of like i got enough of the
salad. Perhaps i should try thinking about meats in small bites in
some kind of gravy or sauce with veggies in it.
Frankly there isnt much on the salad list that i truely like. I like
the lettuce of course but other than that there is only cucumber,
mushrooms, pepper, chives and parsley which makes for a really boring
salad. I SO miss tomatoes in my salad. I know its allowed but since i
treasure the other vegetabels for my dinner and really dont feel
satisfied unless i eat the 200 g. thats allowed its not an option to
just "take away" from that. Hence my question. Could i use one tomato
and eat 100 g. of salad vegetables and eat NO MORE salad vegetables
that day? Somehow it should be possible but i guess its a matter of
calculation?
So if i decide to do the math my self can anyone here tell my how many
carbs is in 340 g of the salad vegetables?
How many in the 90-110 g of cheese?
How many in 200 g. of other vegetables?
Some calculation must have gone into this since "you can eat all this
and stay under 20 g. of carbs a day" but i dont know where to find
the figures. I realise there is a difference in the amount of carbs in
for instance lettuce and cucumber but some overall calculation must
have been made.
Oh well.. perhaps i should just suck it up for the final week. And i
do think you are right about me not have such a big appetite as i used
to and not being able to tell that thats how being pleaseantly full
actually fells. Also - compared to the low fat diets which i have been
on and off for years - no success - have teached me that most of what
i eat on this diet is BAD for me. So thats kind of.. oh who am i
kidding - thats freaking weird and i feel like a total sinner eating
my bacon in the morning and eating my egg salad with fullfat mayo for
lunch.

Thanks you guys.

Zap

Don't worry too much about the amount of carbs in each single salad
vegetable. I've seen people fret about eating half a carrot at lunch time
and putting their carb count 2 grams over, but never seem to worry about
eating a "nutritional bar" that claims some low "net carb" number. Eat your
2 cups of veggies every day and don't worry. They are good for you. Worry
more about falling into the trap of eating refined products that make wild
claims instead of healthy natural food. After the 2 weeks, your choices will
increase even more and will not be as mundane.
Tom
210/180/180


 




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