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Swedish study shows fat good for children
This also appeared in english in various places. It was not amount of
fat per sey, it was type of fat. "Link please. From what I have seen one of the results was exactly that higher fat intake, regardless of type, was associated with less obesity:" Posted belo is the first of two variations that were posted to newsgroups. One problem about such research is that we don't know what specific questions were being asked of the data, answers are a function of questions asked. One can however get some feel of this from the answers provided in the article. It looks to me as though they did a regression analysis to find a ranking of what variables seemed to account for the findings. The link is a news service and the story has schrolled off so I repeat it for you. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/heal...newsid=3D61831 Not Enough Of The Right Fats Can Make Children Overweight 29 Jan 2007 Swedish scientists have discovered that children can become overweight if they don't have enough of the right kind of fat in their food. Or, in other words, eating a diet with the right kind of fat in it can stop kids getting overweight. The findings of the dissertation based at Sahlgrenska Academy at Goteborg University are published online by the Swedish Research Council. The key is in the amount of unsaturated fat that a child consumes. The study investigated the lifestyle, dietary intake, eating habits and insulin levels of nearly 200 healthy 4 year old children living in G=C3=B6teborg, Sweden. Very few of the children were from deprived areas. The scientists measured their weight and height to work out Body Mass Index (BMI). Based on the BMI measures, 23 per cent of the children were overweight and 2 per cent were classed as obese. The researchers say they would expect more overweight and obese children if they had come from a wider socio-economic range. The results showed a curious correlation between fat intake and BMI. High BMI children were gaining weight because their bodies were storing too much fat. But these children were not the ones consuming the most fat. Children with low or ideal BMI ate more fat than those who had high BMI. The key is in the amount of unsaturated fat that a child consumes and omega-3 in particular. Omega-3 is found in fatty fish and vegetables. A third of the children in the group were not eating enough unsaturated fat, and by far the greatest deficiency was the level of omega-3 fat in their diet, according to lead researcher and Dietician Malin Haglund Garemo. Other studies have also suggested a link between lack of omega-3 and obesity, she said. Another important discovery was that the highest insulin levels were found in the children who had put on the most weight. Girls in particular showed this tendency, the researchers said. And girls with the lowest insulin levels were the ones who consumed the most unsaturated fat. The study also found that many of the children were eating unhealthily. 70 per cent of them were deficient in iron, and 20 per cent of them were not getting enough calcium. Their daily intake of fruit and vegetables was only 140 g a day, instead of the recommended daily amount of 400 g. And over 25 per cent of their daily energy was coming from what might be called "junk" foods such as soft drinks, candy or sweets, cookies, biscuits and ice cream. The children who watched more than one hour of TV every day also had a higher BMI. The researchers want to conduct further studies "to see if the early increase in insulin is causing obesity. Such results would go against the common perception that fat causes increased insulin production as a result of insulin resistance," said Malin Haglund Garemo. |
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Swedish study shows fat good for children
Leaving aside the fat sources developed in the last 100 years, could
you show us on what evidence you base your specific conclusions above? Evidence from human metabolism of fats would seem one place to consider as well as that from paleoanthropology. Please don't just throw links at us without commentary as to contents of each and what you think they support with regard to fat in the human diet. Provide the logic that ties the information to your conclusions in other words. Thanks. "It would be pointless to show any proof to you because you will automatically label it as cherry picking without yourself showing any proof of cherry picking Maybe you can show us the appropriate studies that show otherwise, oh gifted Freshie the all knowing of Carnegie Mellon University and Brainwashing Institute." And there we have it. Regardless of what anyone labeles your presentation the quality of it should be self evident. As it stands the quality also speaks for itself regardless of the responses of any other poster including myself. Why ask another to "prove" on your behalf assertions that originated with yourself? |
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Swedish study shows fat good for children
I listened to an interview with the researcher in the radio. It was
clear that kids should eat fat rather than sugar. She even answered to that specific question. The type of fats was less important. That is also obvious from the papers. |
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Swedish study shows fat good for children
On Jan 31, 10:37 am, "H.L" wrote:
I listened to an interview with the researcher in the radio. It was clear that kids should eat fat rather than sugar. She even answered to that specific question. The type of fats was less important. That is also obvious from the papers. It is obvious to everyone who read the story, except for those whose goal is muddy the waters, like p... what's his name, who seems to be pushing a food industry agenda. He's just a troll and can be ignored. But there is also value in egging him on and seeing just how far out and illogical he is willing to go to try to rationalize his industry propaganda. It's pretty funny at times. TC |
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Swedish study shows fat good for children
"I listened to an interview with the researcher in the radio. It was
clear that kids should eat fat rather than sugar. She even answered to that specific question." Answers are always a function of the question. Based on the news articles, if asked about which fats she would have answered that unsaturated fats especially those with omega3 fatty acids as found in fish and plant sources would be prefered as fat choices along with avoiding high sugar foods. |
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Swedish study shows fat good for children
On Jan 31, 11:04 am, wrote:
"I listened to an interview with the researcher in the radio. It was clear that kids should eat fat rather than sugar. She even answered to that specific question." Answers are always a function of the question. Based on the news articles, if asked about which fats she would have answered that unsaturated fats especially those with omega3 fatty acids as found in fish and plant sources would be prefered as fat choices along with avoiding high sugar foods. So you are going to re-write news articles and a radio interview you didn' hear based on your ivory tower advanced degree pinheaded book- learned ideas? God, you must think so very, very little of our intellectual capacities. How so ****ing arrogant of you, freshie. TC |
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Swedish study shows fat good for children
"I listened to an interview with the researcher in the radio. It was clear that kids should eat fat rather than sugar. She even answered to that specific question." Answers are always a function of the question. Based on the news articles, if asked about which fats she would have answered that unsaturated fats especially those with omega3 fatty acids as found in fish and plant sources would be prefered as fat choices along with avoiding high sugar foods. So you are going to re-write news articles and a radio interview you didn' hear based on your ivory tower advanced degree pinheaded book- learned ideas? God, you must think so very, very little of our intellectual capacities. How so ****ing arrogant of you, freshie. I used the article first posted by you where specific mention was made that unstaturated fats and especially those from fish and plants containing omega3 fats were associated with those kids having the lowest bmi numbers. If in an answer to a question as above asking to choosing fat or sugar that answer was provided and we can accept it. We can also with justification answer with the information in your posted article as to which fat among all fats was a good choice. Your opinion of me is irrelevant, the information the article provided would exist if I did not exist and its conclusions clearly set forth would not change either. Shall I repost the article again? |
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Swedish study shows fat good for children
On Jan 31, 12:37 pm, wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:04 am, wrote: "I listened to an interview with the researcher in the radio. It was clear that kids should eat fat rather than sugar. She even answered to that specific question." Answers are always a function of the question. Based on the news articles, if asked about which fats she would have answered that unsaturated fats especially those with omega3 fatty acids as found in fish and plant sources would be prefered as fat choices along with avoiding high sugar foods. So you are going to re-write news articles and a radio interview you didn' hear based on your ivory tower advanced degree pinheaded book- learned ideas? God, you must think so very, very little of our intellectual capacities. How so ****ing arrogant of you, freshie. TC I agree. Everyone here seems to agree that the reported conclusion of the study and even the interview was that the children who ate more fat, regardless of type, were less likely to be overweight. Sounds like P is the kind of person that would read a report that says diesel cars get excellent mileage, and of those cars, the VW Rabbit got the best mileage and then claim it says only the VW rabbit gets excellent mileage. |
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Swedish study shows fat good for children
For clarification of some notions that have come up since, I post the
original article again. Please note, even in the title, the stress on kind of fat. Not Enough Of The Right Fats Can Make Children Overweight 29 Jan 2007 Swedish scientists have discovered that children can become overweight if they don't have enough of the right kind of fat in their food. Or, in other words, eating a diet with the right kind of fat in it can stop kids getting overweight. The findings of the dissertation based at Sahlgrenska Academy at Goteborg University are published online by the Swedish Research Council. The key is in the amount of unsaturated fat that a child consumes. The study investigated the lifestyle, dietary intake, eating habits and insulin levels of nearly 200 healthy 4 year old children living in G=C3=B6teborg, Sweden. Very few of the children were from deprived areas. The scientists measured their weight and height to work out Body Mass Index (BMI). Based on the BMI measures, 23 per cent of the children were overweight and 2 per cent were classed as obese. The researchers say they would expect more overweight and obese children if they had come from a wider socio-economic range. The results showed a curious correlation between fat intake and BMI. High BMI children were gaining weight because their bodies were storing too much fat. But these children were not the ones consuming the most fat. Children with low or ideal BMI ate more fat than those who had high BMI. The key is in the amount of unsaturated fat that a child consumes and omega-3 in particular. Omega-3 is found in fatty fish and vegetables. A third of the children in the group were not eating enough unsaturated fat, and by far the greatest deficiency was the level of omega-3 fat in their diet, according to lead researcher and Dietician Malin Haglund Garemo. Other studies have also suggested a link between lack of omega-3 and obesity, she said. Another important discovery was that the highest insulin levels were found in the children who had put on the most weight. Girls in particular showed this tendency, the researchers said. And girls with the lowest insulin levels were the ones who consumed the most unsaturated fat. The study also found that many of the children were eating unhealthily. 70 per cent of them were deficient in iron, and 20 per cent of them were not getting enough calcium. Their daily intake of fruit and vegetables was only 140 g a day, instead of the recommended daily amount of 400 g. And over 25 per cent of their daily energy was coming from what might be called "junk" foods such as soft drinks, candy or sweets, cookies, biscuits and ice cream. The children who watched more than one hour of TV every day also had a higher BMI. The researchers want to conduct further studies "to see if the early increase in insulin is causing obesity. Such results would go against the common perception that fat causes increased insulin production as a result of insulin resistance," said Malin Haglund Garemo. |
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