NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

Oh, I KNOW chocolate (G)

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:28:57 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

You know chocolate, there one day, gone the next. Darn chocolate (G)


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, the scale this morning is less promising than before the ski
trip - darn that chocolate cake! (G)

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:41:05 -0800, Fred
wrote:

I will try but the chocolate cake today while skiing may have blown it
but maybe not (G)

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:50:09 -0600, "Kristin"
wrote:

LOL, Fred! Sorry for your teeny gain, you'll get her next week!

I'm sure if it were me eating that chocolate cake and trying to ski I
wouldn't burn any of it off. I think I'd be on my ass the whole time (I've
never skiied). Holy cow! 5 miles, I bet your thighs do need time to adjust
after that workout. You are the energetic type aren't you? Glad you didn't
get run over by any snowmobiles!

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Actually, we kept climbing another mile so that might have helped but
the scale is not showing it burned off. Downhill, I don't know - I
think standing and not Falling does take effort over 5 miles but not
as much as the uphill. Altho, sometimes staying upright takes all my
effort. Most of this was on a snow covered forest road with just a
bit where we were off-trail and in deeper snow - unfortunately (this
might get me in trouble with some) snowmobiles were on the road -
normally they can't get there because the snow bank will be 5 or more
feet high. But early they could but then again, we might not have
gotten very far as the new snow was deep and we are not yet use to
breaking that much snow - the thighs need to adjust (G)

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:28:01 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Great place to eat Costco chocolate cake! After you ate it I bet you
wore
it off getting back to your vehicle too!

"Fred" wrote in message
news
Another report indicates that I had a great first ski trip of the
season. I did neglect to mention that I took a piece of the Costco
chocolate cake out of the freezer and ate it at lunch while sitting in
the snow (G)

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:48:01 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Have fun this weekend Fred! Snacks are my problem too. Good luck.

good luck, my mom always some antiquing technique when the paint won't come
off, but you will have to do a search because all I know is that she uses
paint remover, sands, puts on coats of stuff and it looks great. This is
too much like creating something for me to actually know what I am talking
about, Lee
Brenda Hammond wrote in message
...
I agree. I have been trying to talk DH into re-finishing this chair for
years, finally the back legs were getting loose and the seat cover was
full
of holes, so he pulled it all apart to fix the legs and then asked if I'd
like to finish it again. It really was gross looking.

It's now sanded, so maybe I'll get to painting it over the next week.
There
is still a fair amount of red on it, really hard to get it all off, so
I'll
be giving it 3 or 4 coats of paint.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
there are some things that it truly is fine that I cannot see, 70s red
and
green are two of them, Lee
Brenda Hammond wrote in message
...
It's great that you're now able to do so much more than you could
before.
Baby steps is the best way to start. I'm off to make a lasagna for
DH,
not
points friendly, but then I'm not much into lasagna either. A tiny
little
piece with salad is plenty for me. Lots of housework to do too, so
better
get moving. DH is going to sand the red paint off a chair that my MIL
re-finished 25+ years ago (its ugly!). Anyway, he's going to sand it
then
I'm going to paint it white and finish the seat with a nice comfy
pillow
top
and light blue denim over it (its going to be my new chair at my desk
here).
Will look much nicer than the 70's red that it is at the moment!
--
Brenda
209/172/150
NYNY goal 160

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
the house cleaning is a big part of my moving around. I had gotten
so
bad
I
only did the least I could to get by. Now that I have lost I am
starting
to
get things as I want them. It is gratifying that I can do so much
without
getting to tired. I am taking baby steps where this is concerned
also.
I
do some daily things every day and then if I have time I start a new
project. What started this was going through the closets looking
for
clothes. I have now been through all of them once for clothes. My
bedroom
closet is so clean it would scare most women and terrify most men.
DH
even
bought me those clear plastic shoe boxes from Wal Mart for my shoes.
This
is the first time in my life I ever got anything out of cleaning,
Lee
Brenda Hammond wrote in message
...
Good luck with that housecleaning! I've got tons to do too. I
had
plans
to
go and meet my parents today, but think I'll stay in and get
something
done
around the house as well. Tomorrow I'm off to work to try and get
the
store
a bit organized before Monday morning. Right now it's a mess!

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
I am working up to it, want to keep the housecleaning up and get
all
that
done first. On the list of housecleaning is moving the tread
to
a
more
accessible place. That will be my exercise of choice but I know
myself
and
I have to take baby steps. Thanks for the inspiration, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
Try it, you might find you like it! grin Honestly, that's
the
only
thing I can
think of that could be accounting for a change in sizes. I
have
probably
lost
only 5 pounds in the last 3 months - not enough to drop a
size.
Yet
my
measurements have dropped quite a bit in the past 5 weeks.
I'm
feeling
a
lot
better, too - which is an added benefit.

Joyce

shifting into a size six would give me incentive to do tread
mill
,
Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm tellin' ya, they're all freakin' nutz! (or as the
bumper
sticker
on
hubbys
drs. car reads ... nuckin futz) Where do they come up
with
stuff
like
this?
Evidentally it bugged me enough that I asked hub if I
looked
anorexic
..
he just
laughed at me and told me not to worry. Measurements? 37,
28,
35
...
a
fur piece
from doing a disappearing act. Like you, I don't think the
numbers
say
thin
either - but the clothing sizes seem to. Bought my very
first
size
small
sweaters
yesterday (obviously was a fluke) and did need some new
jeans
as
the
butt
is
sagging dramatically in my old ones ... size ... hang onto
your
shorts
here 6!
Fit beautifully. The treadmill doesn't appear to be doing
anything
for
me
weightwise, but I think there is a bunch of shifting going
on.
g

Joyce


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:59:37 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

And I am Blissfully, Healthily, Happily neurotic as well.
I
am
getting
those comments too, can you imagine, people calling a 159
pound
woman
"gaunt"

I measured myself the other day incidentally, and shades
of
Zena,
I
am
40,
28,38. Not skinny by any means at all. Not even thin.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:36:30 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Yes, I guess staying reasonably under a goal I never
expected
to
make
is actually quite excellent. One can understand how
easy
it
is
to
become too neurotic about all of this.

Ooooooooooh, I like the neurotic word! Maybe that's
where
I
am?
g
Baby
bro
told me today that I need to eat more fat, I look
anorexic.
I
told
him
I
am then
the first 130 pound anorexic who willingly eats several
times
per
day t
hat
I have
ever known. G Of course, this is said by the guy who
has
just
put
on
about 30
pounds by resuming old habits of eating unlimited
quantities
of
icecream
and chips
on a daily basis.

Out to lunch we went, dragging mom with us. Again I was
told,
*eat
more
fat!* ...
and the cheeseburger jumped off the menu and into my
view.
Waiter
came
around, I
ordered garlic chicken pasta (Dottie's says it's 11
points,
but
I
sure
don't see
where it can be that much, couldn't have had more than 2
ounces
of
chicken
... if
that ... and about a cup of angel hair). Oh, and I
skipped
desert.
Dinner tonite
was a can of health valley soup (wonderful, wonderful,
wonderfully
high
fiber and
nutritious) and a fantastic wheat pita sandwich.

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into
the
same
old
trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

A coworker has been complaining that it is taking too
much
effort
to
stick with it. He misses his beer weekends and snacks.

Sounds like coworker really doesn't have his mind into
the
game
yet,
or
hasn't
found that *switch* we like to talk about.. I guess I
can
agree
that
following
any healthy plan does take a bit of effort ... I can't
say
that
it
took
too MUCH
effort though - not for me anyway. After the initial
few
weeks
it
seemed
like
everything fell into place in my head and it really was
easy
to
continue
on the
journey.

Joyce


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:17:01 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Thanks. I am going to the meeting Saturday morning
also
to
see
what
theirs
says. And check in with all my buddies. You are
doing
really
well
staying
away from the dreaded 164.


"Fred" wrote in message
. ..
Well, with your temps, a shark might visit those
waters
you
visit.

Best for tomorrow.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:48 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Nah Fred, I might be lower on Saturday, but my
average
is
going
to
be
a
bit
over that unless I lose a leg or something tomorrow
morning....

This morning I was 158.5, but the whole rest of
this
past
week
I
was
in
the
160's. Maybe I should go Back to my weigh in day
weight
just
for
This


Hahahahaha. Oh I am so bad. That .4 has to be
clothes
doesn't
it?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It
probably
was
the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

I want to look good as much as the next person but I think the whole point
for me is to be healthy and looking good is a result of eating right, I
don't worry about sizes except as a guide for how much better I am doing.
Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
The height makes a big difference, different styles too. I'm not tall,
but not
exactly short either (5'6") but all my height is from the waist up ...
probably
accounts for something there. Either way, number really means nothing to
me.
Yeah, the *6* is nice - but so are the size 10 jeans I have upstairs that
fit well
(they sit higher on the waist ... definitely need more room there). And
the size
small sweaters I purchased yesterday are lovely ... but so are the size
larges
that I bought a month or so ago. All depends on what stores. Heck, it's
not like
anyone is going to be pulling my clothing off to look at the labels. g

I remember my hub saying that whenever a clothing gift was purchased for
his ex
and his ex MIL - labels had to ripped out. They would wear nothing unless
it was
a specific number. THAT I don't understand.

Joyce


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:39:47 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

yes you are a very nice size. The height makes a difference too. I fit
very comfortably in a 10

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I'm tellin' ya, they're all freakin' nutz! (or as the bumper sticker
on
hubbys
drs. car reads ... nuckin futz) Where do they come up with stuff
like
this?
Evidentally it bugged me enough that I asked hub if I looked anorexic
...
he just
laughed at me and told me not to worry. Measurements? 37, 28, 35 ...
a
fur piece
from doing a disappearing act. Like you, I don't think the numbers say
thin
either - but the clothing sizes seem to. Bought my very first size
small
sweaters
yesterday (obviously was a fluke) and did need some new jeans as the
butt
is
sagging dramatically in my old ones ... size ... hang onto your shorts
here 6!
Fit beautifully. The treadmill doesn't appear to be doing anything for
me
weightwise, but I think there is a bunch of shifting going on. g

Joyce


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:59:37 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

And I am Blissfully, Healthily, Happily neurotic as well. I am
getting
those comments too, can you imagine, people calling a 159 pound woman
"gaunt"

I measured myself the other day incidentally, and shades of Zena, I am
40,
28,38. Not skinny by any means at all. Not even thin.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:36:30 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Yes, I guess staying reasonably under a goal I never expected to
make
is actually quite excellent. One can understand how easy it is to
become too neurotic about all of this.

Ooooooooooh, I like the neurotic word! Maybe that's where I am? g
Baby
bro
told me today that I need to eat more fat, I look anorexic. I told
him
I
am then
the first 130 pound anorexic who willingly eats several times per
day
that
I have
ever known. G Of course, this is said by the guy who has just put
on
about 30
pounds by resuming old habits of eating unlimited quantities of
icecream
and chips
on a daily basis.

Out to lunch we went, dragging mom with us. Again I was told, *eat
more
fat!* ...
and the cheeseburger jumped off the menu and into my view. Waiter
came
around, I
ordered garlic chicken pasta (Dottie's says it's 11 points, but I
sure
don't see
where it can be that much, couldn't have had more than 2 ounces of
chicken
... if
that ... and about a cup of angel hair). Oh, and I skipped desert.
Dinner tonite
was a can of health valley soup (wonderful, wonderful, wonderfully
high
fiber and
nutritious) and a fantastic wheat pita sandwich.

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old
trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

A coworker has been complaining that it is taking too much effort
to
stick with it. He misses his beer weekends and snacks.

Sounds like coworker really doesn't have his mind into the game yet,
or
hasn't
found that *switch* we like to talk about.. I guess I can agree
that
following
any healthy plan does take a bit of effort ... I can't say that it
took
too MUCH
effort though - not for me anyway. After the initial few weeks it
seemed
like
everything fell into place in my head and it really was easy to
continue
on the
journey.

Joyce


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:17:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Thanks. I am going to the meeting Saturday morning also to see
what
theirs
says. And check in with all my buddies. You are doing really
well
staying
away from the dreaded 164.


"Fred" wrote in message
. ..
Well, with your temps, a shark might visit those waters you
visit.

Best for tomorrow.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:48 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Nah Fred, I might be lower on Saturday, but my average is going
to
be
a
bit
over that unless I lose a leg or something tomorrow morning....

This morning I was 158.5, but the whole rest of this past week
I
was
in
the
160's. Maybe I should go Back to my weigh in day weight just
for
This


Hahahahaha. Oh I am so bad. That .4 has to be clothes doesn't
it?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

looks like you raised him right, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:45:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:48:23 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:42:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old
trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

THAT'S IT. The Fear of falling back. Those were all firmly
established HABITS. And maybe even instincts of some sort. Fighting
them, establishing new ones take effort.

yup, establishing those habits sure isn't easy. I think I may be
successful
though. G Sonny boy arrived home from school today, is the beginning
of his
Thanksgiving break ... pulled in just in time to make a lunch run to his
favorite
mexican restaurant. We hadn't even sat down yet and the waitress came
over and
asked if we both wanted water. She brought the water, immediately told
me what
their fish special was - asked if I wanted that, no rice, no beans,
veggies only.
Geeeeeeesh, I didn't realize I had become so predictable!

GGGGGGGGGG - same here. I go into the Teriaki joint for lunch. The
Korean lady immediately starts writing "Chicken, no sauce, no
dressing, no fortune cookie." She has me down pat.

I've seen several people reply to this post, sounds like we all have had
some big
changes in our habits as well as our tastes. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD! Son just
ran out
to Arby's to pick himself up some lunch. As he was leaving I asked him
why he
didn't ask if I wanted anything. His reply, "I knew what you were gonna
say".
He's right, he knows me well. g

Joyce

Evidentally part of looking good is having clothing that fits. I made a quick run
to the grocery store today, had the oddest (but true) comment made to me. One of
the checkout gals who has also been on ww said I looked great, and it was really
nice to see me in pants that fit ... the last time she saw me she thought I was
going for the teenage baggy butt look. LOL! Evidentally she and hubby both saw
something that I didn't. grin

Joyce


On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:28:56 GMT, "Miss Violette" wrote:

I want to look good as much as the next person but I think the whole point
for me is to be healthy and looking good is a result of eating right, I
don't worry about sizes except as a guide for how much better I am doing.
Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
The height makes a big difference, different styles too. I'm not tall,
but not
exactly short either (5'6") but all my height is from the waist up ...
probably
accounts for something there. Either way, number really means nothing to
me.
Yeah, the *6* is nice - but so are the size 10 jeans I have upstairs that
fit well
(they sit higher on the waist ... definitely need more room there). And
the size
small sweaters I purchased yesterday are lovely ... but so are the size
larges
that I bought a month or so ago. All depends on what stores. Heck, it's
not like
anyone is going to be pulling my clothing off to look at the labels. g

I remember my hub saying that whenever a clothing gift was purchased for
his ex
and his ex MIL - labels had to ripped out. They would wear nothing unless
it was
a specific number. THAT I don't understand.

Joyce


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:39:47 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

yes you are a very nice size. The height makes a difference too. I fit
very comfortably in a 10

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I'm tellin' ya, they're all freakin' nutz! (or as the bumper sticker
on
hubbys
drs. car reads ... nuckin futz) Where do they come up with stuff
like
this?
Evidentally it bugged me enough that I asked hub if I looked anorexic
..
he just
laughed at me and told me not to worry. Measurements? 37, 28, 35 ...
a
fur piece
from doing a disappearing act. Like you, I don't think the numbers say
thin
either - but the clothing sizes seem to. Bought my very first size
small
sweaters
yesterday (obviously was a fluke) and did need some new jeans as the
butt
is
sagging dramatically in my old ones ... size ... hang onto your shorts
here 6!
Fit beautifully. The treadmill doesn't appear to be doing anything for
me
weightwise, but I think there is a bunch of shifting going on. g

Joyce


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:59:37 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

And I am Blissfully, Healthily, Happily neurotic as well. I am
getting
those comments too, can you imagine, people calling a 159 pound woman
"gaunt"

I measured myself the other day incidentally, and shades of Zena, I am
40,
28,38. Not skinny by any means at all. Not even thin.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:36:30 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Yes, I guess staying reasonably under a goal I never expected to
make
is actually quite excellent. One can understand how easy it is to
become too neurotic about all of this.

Ooooooooooh, I like the neurotic word! Maybe that's where I am? g
Baby
bro
told me today that I need to eat more fat, I look anorexic. I told
him
I
am then
the first 130 pound anorexic who willingly eats several times per
day
that
I have
ever known. G Of course, this is said by the guy who has just put
on
about 30
pounds by resuming old habits of eating unlimited quantities of
icecream
and chips
on a daily basis.

Out to lunch we went, dragging mom with us. Again I was told, *eat
more
fat!* ...
and the cheeseburger jumped off the menu and into my view. Waiter
came
around, I
ordered garlic chicken pasta (Dottie's says it's 11 points, but I
sure
don't see
where it can be that much, couldn't have had more than 2 ounces of
chicken
... if
that ... and about a cup of angel hair). Oh, and I skipped desert.
Dinner tonite
was a can of health valley soup (wonderful, wonderful, wonderfully
high
fiber and
nutritious) and a fantastic wheat pita sandwich.

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old
trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

A coworker has been complaining that it is taking too much effort
to
stick with it. He misses his beer weekends and snacks.

Sounds like coworker really doesn't have his mind into the game yet,
or
hasn't
found that *switch* we like to talk about.. I guess I can agree
that
following
any healthy plan does take a bit of effort ... I can't say that it
took
too MUCH
effort though - not for me anyway. After the initial few weeks it
seemed
like
everything fell into place in my head and it really was easy to
continue
on the
journey.

Joyce


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:17:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Thanks. I am going to the meeting Saturday morning also to see
what
theirs
says. And check in with all my buddies. You are doing really
well
staying
away from the dreaded 164.


"Fred" wrote in message
. ..
Well, with your temps, a shark might visit those waters you
visit.

Best for tomorrow.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:48 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Nah Fred, I might be lower on Saturday, but my average is going
to
be
a
bit
over that unless I lose a leg or something tomorrow morning....

This morning I was 158.5, but the whole rest of this past week
I
was
in
the
160's. Maybe I should go Back to my weigh in day weight just
for
This


Hahahahaha. Oh I am so bad. That .4 has to be clothes doesn't
it?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

I sure hope so. He's a good kid, always has been. It could also be that when he
was 9 he had his fathers cancer diagnosis laid on him ... got through that and
then became my *caregiver* when I went through the severe depression and anxiety.
He kind of lays all this responsibility on himself. But we are close, and I hope
we stay that way (think we will since he's 19 already).

Joyce

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:33:57 GMT, "Miss Violette" wrote:

looks like you raised him right, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:45:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:48:23 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:42:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old
trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

THAT'S IT. The Fear of falling back. Those were all firmly
established HABITS. And maybe even instincts of some sort. Fighting
them, establishing new ones take effort.

yup, establishing those habits sure isn't easy. I think I may be
successful
though. G Sonny boy arrived home from school today, is the beginning
of his
Thanksgiving break ... pulled in just in time to make a lunch run to his
favorite
mexican restaurant. We hadn't even sat down yet and the waitress came
over and
asked if we both wanted water. She brought the water, immediately told
me what
their fish special was - asked if I wanted that, no rice, no beans,
veggies only.
Geeeeeeesh, I didn't realize I had become so predictable!

GGGGGGGGGG - same here. I go into the Teriaki joint for lunch. The
Korean lady immediately starts writing "Chicken, no sauce, no
dressing, no fortune cookie." She has me down pat.

I've seen several people reply to this post, sounds like we all have had
some big
changes in our habits as well as our tastes. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD! Son just
ran out
to Arby's to pick himself up some lunch. As he was leaving I asked him
why he
didn't ask if I wanted anything. His reply, "I knew what you were gonna
say".
He's right, he knows me well. g

Joyce

you should be proud of him and you both, we don't have children so I always
admire parents who do it right, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
I sure hope so. He's a good kid, always has been. It could also be that
when he
was 9 he had his fathers cancer diagnosis laid on him ... got through that
and
then became my *caregiver* when I went through the severe depression and
anxiety.
He kind of lays all this responsibility on himself. But we are close, and
I hope
we stay that way (think we will since he's 19 already).

Joyce

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:33:57 GMT, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

looks like you raised him right, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:45:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:48:23 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:42:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old
trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

THAT'S IT. The Fear of falling back. Those were all firmly
established HABITS. And maybe even instincts of some sort.
Fighting
them, establishing new ones take effort.

yup, establishing those habits sure isn't easy. I think I may be
successful
though. G Sonny boy arrived home from school today, is the
beginning
of his
Thanksgiving break ... pulled in just in time to make a lunch run to
his
favorite
mexican restaurant. We hadn't even sat down yet and the waitress
came
over and
asked if we both wanted water. She brought the water, immediately
told
me what
their fish special was - asked if I wanted that, no rice, no beans,
veggies only.
Geeeeeeesh, I didn't realize I had become so predictable!

GGGGGGGGGG - same here. I go into the Teriaki joint for lunch. The
Korean lady immediately starts writing "Chicken, no sauce, no
dressing, no fortune cookie." She has me down pat.

I've seen several people reply to this post, sounds like we all have
had
some big
changes in our habits as well as our tastes. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD! Son
just
ran out
to Arby's to pick himself up some lunch. As he was leaving I asked him
why he
didn't ask if I wanted anything. His reply, "I knew what you were
gonna
say".
He's right, he knows me well. g

Joyce

I agree. You are very lucky to have great kids. I'm one of four kids and
we all turned out great, although the three of us older ones were a little
concerned about our youngest brother for awhile, but he's turned out to be a
great parent, brother and husband. I pray that my own child(ren) turn out
as well.
--
Brenda
209/174/150
NYNY goal 160

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
s.com...
you should be proud of him and you both, we don't have children so I
always
admire parents who do it right, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
I sure hope so. He's a good kid, always has been. It could also be
that
when he
was 9 he had his fathers cancer diagnosis laid on him ... got through
that
and
then became my *caregiver* when I went through the severe depression and
anxiety.
He kind of lays all this responsibility on himself. But we are close,
and
I hope
we stay that way (think we will since he's 19 already).

Joyce

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:33:57 GMT, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

looks like you raised him right, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:45:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:48:23 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:42:37 -0800, Fred

wrote:

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same
old
trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

THAT'S IT. The Fear of falling back. Those were all firmly
established HABITS. And maybe even instincts of some sort.
Fighting
them, establishing new ones take effort.

yup, establishing those habits sure isn't easy. I think I may be
successful
though. G Sonny boy arrived home from school today, is the
beginning
of his
Thanksgiving break ... pulled in just in time to make a lunch run
to
his
favorite
mexican restaurant. We hadn't even sat down yet and the waitress
came
over and
asked if we both wanted water. She brought the water, immediately
told
me what
their fish special was - asked if I wanted that, no rice, no beans,
veggies only.
Geeeeeeesh, I didn't realize I had become so predictable!

GGGGGGGGGG - same here. I go into the Teriaki joint for lunch. The
Korean lady immediately starts writing "Chicken, no sauce, no
dressing, no fortune cookie." She has me down pat.

I've seen several people reply to this post, sounds like we all have
had
some big
changes in our habits as well as our tastes. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD! Son
just
ran out
to Arby's to pick himself up some lunch. As he was leaving I asked
him
why he
didn't ask if I wanted anything. His reply, "I knew what you were
gonna
say".
He's right, he knows me well. g

Joyce

Thanks Lee. I always refuse to take credit though, have said that parenting is
done by the trial and error method. Each kid is a guinea pig for the next one in
line. G I think much is just each childs own personality that they are born
with. How else can I explain how differently each of my siblings were - when
raised in the same household ... or our oldest girl who gave us absolute fits
growning up.

Joyce

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:00:05 GMT, "Miss Violette" wrote:

you should be proud of him and you both, we don't have children so I always
admire parents who do it right, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I sure hope so. He's a good kid, always has been. It could also be that
when he
was 9 he had his fathers cancer diagnosis laid on him ... got through that
and
then became my *caregiver* when I went through the severe depression and
anxiety.
He kind of lays all this responsibility on himself. But we are close, and
I hope
we stay that way (think we will since he's 19 already).

Joyce

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:33:57 GMT, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

looks like you raised him right, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:45:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:48:23 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:42:37 -0800, Fred
wrote:

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old
trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

THAT'S IT. The Fear of falling back. Those were all firmly
established HABITS. And maybe even instincts of some sort.
Fighting
them, establishing new ones take effort.

yup, establishing those habits sure isn't easy. I think I may be
successful
though. G Sonny boy arrived home from school today, is the
beginning
of his
Thanksgiving break ... pulled in just in time to make a lunch run to
his
favorite
mexican restaurant. We hadn't even sat down yet and the waitress
came
over and
asked if we both wanted water. She brought the water, immediately
told
me what
their fish special was - asked if I wanted that, no rice, no beans,
veggies only.
Geeeeeeesh, I didn't realize I had become so predictable!

GGGGGGGGGG - same here. I go into the Teriaki joint for lunch. The
Korean lady immediately starts writing "Chicken, no sauce, no
dressing, no fortune cookie." She has me down pat.

I've seen several people reply to this post, sounds like we all have
had
some big
changes in our habits as well as our tastes. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD! Son
just
ran out
to Arby's to pick himself up some lunch. As he was leaving I asked him
why he
didn't ask if I wanted anything. His reply, "I knew what you were
gonna
say".
He's right, he knows me well. g

Joyce