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I'm not fat, I'm poisoned.
So it's been about three weeks since I restarted an actual, no-kidding
Induction. I dropped another two pounds as of this morning and I'm feeling a little awed. During the past three weeks I've read the new Taubes book and reread DANDR and eventually, after dropping an easy eleven pounds( actually I'm not sure about this because three weeks ago I couldn't even look at the number without some soft focus) , I was struck with a thought. I realized that a low carb protocol is not a weight loss diet at all. Weight loss is the thing that everybody wants because they want to look all sexy in their after picture but being fat, it seems to me, is really a symptom of systemic poisoning brought on by refined sugar and carbohydrates. I have to admit I never looked at it that way before. When I started Atkins with full seriousness and intent five years ago it was just because I couldn't climb the stairs without hauling myself up by the banister. I can't even begin to recount all the ways that I felt terrible. So Gary Taubes asks in this insanely informative book -- are people lethargic because they're overweight and out of shape? Or is it because they're actually in various states of ill health brought on by refined carbohydrates, insulin resistance, and the destructive effects of this stuff on the body system? I now see that as an excellent question to which I know the answer. I think what's really happening during the first few weeks or even months of a carbohydrate restricted protocol is that peoples' whole bodies are healing and recalibrating. It takes time for insulin receptors to become more sensitive. It takes time for the endocrine system to start working appropriately. *That's* why, during Induction,you don't have to watch calories. You might think you're losing " twenty pounds in two weeks!!!!" but really you are changing the endocrine response in your body and any weight loss is incidental. ! And that's why my nutritional needs changed over time. In the beginning, it's extremely low carb -- near the end and at maintenance it changes to something like middle carb-more-exercise-because-you- actually-want-to-and-no.sugar.ever. It was easy to cut calories when I needed to because I wasn't hungry for them anyway, but I really wonder: If I had had more patience and just stayed lowcarb without counting, would I have reached goal anyway? I think I might be turning into one of those annoying lowcarbers who do it " for health reasons". Is that weird or what? The c-wire news of the day recap: 1. I lost 13-15 pounds in three weeks( not sure), but regardless I feel whole lot better. 2. I won a DVD player at the grocery store. c No Sugar = Good Mojo |
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I'm not fat, I'm poisoned.
wrote I realized that a low carb protocol is not a weight loss diet at all. Weight loss is the thing that everybody wants because they want to look all sexy in their after picture but being fat, it seems to me, is really a symptom of systemic poisoning brought on by refined sugar and carbohydrates. I certainly won't argue with this notion. So Gary Taubes asks in this insanely informative book -- are people lethargic because they're overweight and out of shape? Well, those things do come together.... Or is it because they're actually in various states of ill health brought on by refined carbohydrates, insulin resistance, and the destructive effects of this stuff on the body system? That, IMO, is certainly part of the issue. Carbs, IMO, are a type of food that we [modern humans] don't really need in great amounts because we're too inactive, as a whole. The body burns carbs [leaving aside boose] first because if they hang around too long they cause damage. But, it can put those carbs to get use if the body is working hard. Otherwise, it can't and over time they make us ill. IMO. I now see that as an excellent question to which I know the answer. I think what's really happening during the first few weeks or even months of a carbohydrate restricted protocol is that peoples' whole bodies are healing and recalibrating. It takes time for insulin receptors to become more sensitive. It takes time for the endocrine system to start working appropriately. *That's* why, during Induction,you don't have to watch calories. You might think you're losing " twenty pounds in two weeks!!!!" but really you are changing the endocrine response in your body and any weight loss is incidental. ! And that's why my nutritional needs changed over time. In the beginning, it's extremely low carb -- near the end and at maintenance it changes to something like middle carb-more-exercise-because-you- actually-want-to-and-no.sugar.ever. It was easy to cut calories when I needed to because I wasn't hungry for them anyway, but I really wonder: If I had had more patience and just stayed lowcarb without counting, would I have reached goal anyway? I think I might be turning into one of those annoying lowcarbers who do it " for health reasons". Is that weird or what? No. I'm glad you're back in here. Posts like this are good! The c-wire news of the day recap: 1. I lost 13-15 pounds in three weeks( not sure), but regardless I feel whole lot better. 2. I won a DVD player at the grocery store. c No Sugar = Good Mojo Cool beans, baby! |
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I'm not fat, I'm poisoned.
On Oct 13, 7:28 pm, Jackie Patti wrote:
wrote: I think what's really happening during the first few weeks or even months of a carbohydrate restricted protocol is that peoples' whole bodies are healing and recalibrating. It takes time for insulin receptors to become more sensitive. It takes time for the endocrine system to start working appropriately. *That's* why, during Induction,you don't have to watch calories. You might think you're losing " twenty pounds in two weeks!!!!" but really you are changing the endocrine response in your body and any weight loss is incidental. I haven't read Taubes book just yet, but I've thought this about induction for years. It's withdrawal. The reason you're not supposed to restrict calories is cause you have massive cravings and are almost certainly going to overeat the first few days. You're not supposed to lose fat during induction, it's whole purpose is to switch your biochemistry over, cut the cravings and THEN you have appetite suppresion kicking in and weight loss is relatively easy. Hrm. You go two weeks taking your insulin levels from chronically elevated down to low. The implication is that your glucagon level goes up. And any other hormones you might be running can also draw energy from your fat, either stored fat or dietary fat and protein. It seems like a recipe to reduce fat in storage to me. At least that's my Taubes induced understanding. That said, The fast stuff out is the water, that the carbs/insulin aren't causing you to hold anymore. That's bonus, in my book. |
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I'm not fat, I'm poisoned.
Jackie Patti writes:
I haven't read Taubes book just yet, [snip] It'll make you mad. There are fairly recent discoveries about blood particles and hormones and so on that have made what Taubes calls the "carbohydrate hypothesis" more obvious in recent years; but the basic fact that carbohydrates encourage obesity, heart disease, and diabetes (among other things) has been staring researchers in the face for as long as they've been studying those things. As we say in the country, "If it'us a snake, it'd'a bit 'em." Even the recent work that's been done could have happened a lot sooner if the people with the purse strings hadn't spent practically every nickel looking for proof that dietary fat was bad. I think if we were eating the ideal maintenance diet, we'd all be ideally healthy... just might take some time to get there. Most people aren't that patient though. It certainly looks that way. Taubes cites several "primitive" societies where missionary doctors found an almost complete absence of cancer, heart disease, and diabetes, but saw those diseases all climb as soon as the local people started eating Western refined food. The people of Tokelau, who got more than 70% of their calories from coconut and more than 50% from fat (90% of it saturated) until the rest of the world showed up and started importing sugar and grain are a great example. It's mostly the usual story: isolated group of people have excellent health on a paleo-type diet; Western colonists or missionaries come in with their own supplies of food; everything goes to Hell on a gurney. But then the best part: The only conspicuous departure from these trends was in 1979, when the chartered passenger-and-cargo ship /Cenpac Rounder/ ran aground and the islanders went five months without food or fuel delivery. "There was no sugar, flour, tobacco and starch foods," reported the /New Zealand Herald/, "and the atoll hospitals reported a shortage of business during the enforced isolation. It was reported that the Tokelauans had been very healthy during that time and had returned to the pre-European diet of coconut and fish. Many people lost weight and felt very much better including some of the diabetics." So while the history is making me mad, it's also making me very optimistic for the future. We don't have to have all these "diseases of civilization," at least not at the epidemic levels we have them now. The solution is known, and it's been known for a century or more. And regardless of what anyone else does, I know I'm lowering my own chance for chronic disease *drastically* by eating this way. That makes me happy. Most folks would probably do fine even just cutting out the white stuff... sugar, flour, rice, potatoes. And for optimum health, replacing that stuff mostly with fresh nonstarchy vegetables and low-sugar fruits. That would likely get nearly everyone to their ideal weight sooner or later. Probably so. The societies where everyone was fit and no one ever got cancer or heart disease weren't necessarily very-low-carb, but what carbs they got weren't refined. One study showed a significant improvement in health if people got under 600 calories a day from carbs, which would probably happen for most people if they just cut out the "white" stuff. -- Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz |
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