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David wrote:
:: "PlacidBull" wrote: :: ::: Why would you make such a statement without at least doing ::: preliminary research? :: :: I have. No, you have not. :: ::: That's why I warn people who come to this newsgroup to take what is ::: said here with a grain of salt, cross check what is posted here, ::: make sure what is being stated is true. :: :: I agree. :: :: -- :: Nova Scotia, Canada |
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David wrote:
:: "PlacidBull" wrote: :: ::: Why would you make such a statement without at least doing ::: preliminary research? :: :: I have. No, you have not. :: ::: That's why I warn people who come to this newsgroup to take what is ::: said here with a grain of salt, cross check what is posted here, ::: make sure what is being stated is true. :: :: I agree. :: :: -- :: Nova Scotia, Canada |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:16:09 -0400, Roger Zoul
wrote: David wrote: :: Ignoramus474 wrote: :: ::: Actually, I have been eating around 60 or so carbs per day (a WAG), ::: for 2 months, and would be delighted to take some IQ test to show ::: that my brain function has not become any more impaired than it was ::: at the beginning. I know what my IQ normally works out to, so, it ::: would be interesting to compare. ::: ::: As for the muscle function, I do 50 pushups and 12 pullups per set ::: every day (2 sets of pushups and 3 sets of pullups). If anything, ::: pushups became a bit easier on LC. :: :: Honeslty, I think you are dishonoring yourself and doing your body a :: disservice by eating low carb. Nonsense. How the heck does one "dishonor oneself" by eating? I've been eating low carb for a while now, and I have no problems lifting weights or hard bike riding. I will up my carbs at times (especially on weeks where I ride my bike one day, lift weights including squats the next day, then ride 60+ miles the third day), but the amount of carbs you "need" is dramatically different than the common conception. -- Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:16:09 -0400, Roger Zoul
wrote: David wrote: :: Ignoramus474 wrote: :: ::: Actually, I have been eating around 60 or so carbs per day (a WAG), ::: for 2 months, and would be delighted to take some IQ test to show ::: that my brain function has not become any more impaired than it was ::: at the beginning. I know what my IQ normally works out to, so, it ::: would be interesting to compare. ::: ::: As for the muscle function, I do 50 pushups and 12 pullups per set ::: every day (2 sets of pushups and 3 sets of pullups). If anything, ::: pushups became a bit easier on LC. :: :: Honeslty, I think you are dishonoring yourself and doing your body a :: disservice by eating low carb. Nonsense. How the heck does one "dishonor oneself" by eating? I've been eating low carb for a while now, and I have no problems lifting weights or hard bike riding. I will up my carbs at times (especially on weeks where I ride my bike one day, lift weights including squats the next day, then ride 60+ miles the third day), but the amount of carbs you "need" is dramatically different than the common conception. -- Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply |
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Ignoramus26859 wrote in message ...
In article , PlacidBull wrote: Here is an interesting article ... and interesting recipes too http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/lowcarb/exercise.html thanks, good article and in line with my experience. The article says moderate exercise. "Keep in mind however, you should avoid high-intensity and high-duration exercise..." For me, running is *always* high enough intensity that I need glycogen to help fuel it. Walking is different. For each person the intensity of running will be different; even slow jogging can be muscularly intense for some. I tried low-carb for 6 months and had to cut my exercise workload a great deal. For me it simply did not work. Some people's physiology may be better adapted to a stricter low-carb lifestyle. I found I did not really lose weight on low-carb because I would eat too many fat calories. Calorie control is the way to go - ask Lance armstrong. This year I've been eating a not-so-low carb diet, but it does have the shape of a TKD diet, particularly for the simple carbs that I enjoy - and my exercise is better than ever. Where is LYLE McDONALD (author of CKD) when these discussions come up? - Tony |
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Ignoramus26859 wrote in message ...
In article , PlacidBull wrote: Here is an interesting article ... and interesting recipes too http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/lowcarb/exercise.html thanks, good article and in line with my experience. The article says moderate exercise. "Keep in mind however, you should avoid high-intensity and high-duration exercise..." For me, running is *always* high enough intensity that I need glycogen to help fuel it. Walking is different. For each person the intensity of running will be different; even slow jogging can be muscularly intense for some. I tried low-carb for 6 months and had to cut my exercise workload a great deal. For me it simply did not work. Some people's physiology may be better adapted to a stricter low-carb lifestyle. I found I did not really lose weight on low-carb because I would eat too many fat calories. Calorie control is the way to go - ask Lance armstrong. This year I've been eating a not-so-low carb diet, but it does have the shape of a TKD diet, particularly for the simple carbs that I enjoy - and my exercise is better than ever. Where is LYLE McDONALD (author of CKD) when these discussions come up? - Tony |
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Tony wrote:
:: Ignoramus26859 wrote in message ... ::: In article , PlacidBull ::: wrote: :::: Here is an interesting article ... and interesting recipes too :::: :::: http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/lowcarb/exercise.html ::: ::: thanks, good article and in line with my experience. ::: :: :: The article says moderate exercise. "Keep in mind however, you :: should avoid high-intensity and high-duration exercise..." For me, :: running is *always* high enough intensity that I need glycogen to :: help fuel it. That's the way it is....the same is generally true for me when I do longish bike rides, then end up being both high intensity and high duration for me. :: Walking is different. For each person the intensity :: of running will be different; even slow jogging can be muscularly :: intense for some. Right. When I do HIIT walking, it too can be intense. :: I tried low-carb for 6 months and had to cut my :: exercise workload a great deal. For me it simply did not work. If you do a lot of high intensity exercise, you may have problems. TKD is an option. :: Some people's physiology may be better adapted to a stricter :: low-carb lifestyle. That may indeed be true... :: :: I found I did not really lose weight on low-carb because I would eat :: too many fat calories. Limit calories. :: Calorie control is the way to go - ask Lance :: armstrong. Low carb makes it easier to control calories for many people. :: This year I've been eating a not-so-low carb diet, but it :: does have the shape of a TKD diet, particularly for the simple carbs :: that I enjoy - and my exercise is better than ever. There are a good number of us here who use either a TKD or a CKD. :: Where is LYLE :: McDONALD (author of CKD) when these discussions come up? He hangs out over in MWF. However, we don't need him for the simple stuff like this. |
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Tony wrote:
:: Ignoramus26859 wrote in message ... ::: In article , PlacidBull ::: wrote: :::: Here is an interesting article ... and interesting recipes too :::: :::: http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/lowcarb/exercise.html ::: ::: thanks, good article and in line with my experience. ::: :: :: The article says moderate exercise. "Keep in mind however, you :: should avoid high-intensity and high-duration exercise..." For me, :: running is *always* high enough intensity that I need glycogen to :: help fuel it. That's the way it is....the same is generally true for me when I do longish bike rides, then end up being both high intensity and high duration for me. :: Walking is different. For each person the intensity :: of running will be different; even slow jogging can be muscularly :: intense for some. Right. When I do HIIT walking, it too can be intense. :: I tried low-carb for 6 months and had to cut my :: exercise workload a great deal. For me it simply did not work. If you do a lot of high intensity exercise, you may have problems. TKD is an option. :: Some people's physiology may be better adapted to a stricter :: low-carb lifestyle. That may indeed be true... :: :: I found I did not really lose weight on low-carb because I would eat :: too many fat calories. Limit calories. :: Calorie control is the way to go - ask Lance :: armstrong. Low carb makes it easier to control calories for many people. :: This year I've been eating a not-so-low carb diet, but it :: does have the shape of a TKD diet, particularly for the simple carbs :: that I enjoy - and my exercise is better than ever. There are a good number of us here who use either a TKD or a CKD. :: Where is LYLE :: McDONALD (author of CKD) when these discussions come up? He hangs out over in MWF. However, we don't need him for the simple stuff like this. |
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Ignoramus474 wrote in message ...
In article q5C2d.1$9l1.0@trndny09, Tony wrote: Ignoramus26859 wrote in message ... In article , PlacidBull wrote: Here is an interesting article ... and interesting recipes too http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/lowcarb/exercise.html thanks, good article and in line with my experience. The article says moderate exercise. "Keep in mind however, you should avoid high-intensity and high-duration exercise..." For me, running is *always* high enough intensity that I need glycogen to help fuel it. Walking is I used to need glycogen to run also! I would run and by the end of half an hour run I would be extremely tired. Now, though, I run for 1 hour 35 minutes and I was not tired, my legs were "as good as new". Again, I ran at low intensity. I think that it was a fascinating experiment (for me anyway). I will definitely run a 1/2 marathon, unfortunately, registration for it is now closed. My boss is going to run it, as well as the full marathon (which is also closed for new registrations). different. For each person the intensity of running will be different; even slow jogging can be muscularly intense for some. I tried low-carb for 6 months and had to cut my exercise workload a great deal. For me it simply did not work. Some people's physiology may be better adapted to a stricter low-carb lifestyle. Thank you for sharing your relevant personal experience. Maybe I am somehow more adaptable to LC, it is hard to say, or maybe you like to run faster than I do. I always liked fat. I found I did not really lose weight on low-carb because I would eat too many fat calories. I do not lose weight either, fortunately, as I do not need to lose weight. But I am eating "to my heart's content", which is extremely nice to me compared to being somewhat hungry on a moderate carb, limited calorie diet. I am greatly hoping that this diet will work for me in the long run. The people on the paleo email mailing list who hd been on this for a long time are all very happy and relaxed about their eating, which is great. (there i san obvious selection bias in that sample of people, but still, it is nice) Yes actually I learned alot from trying the low-carb, and I leaned toward the paleo side of it as well. As a result my diet is more balanced and more satisfying now too. Calorie control is the way to go - ask Lance armstrong. This year I've been eating a not-so-low carb diet, but it does have the shape of a TKD diet, particularly for the simple carbs that I enjoy - and my exercise is better than ever. Where is LYLE McDONALD (author of CKD) when these discussions come up? Lyle hangs out in misc.fitness.weights... Yes but Lyle also pokes his head in here sometimes... - Tony |
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Ignoramus474 wrote in message ...
In article q5C2d.1$9l1.0@trndny09, Tony wrote: Ignoramus26859 wrote in message ... In article , PlacidBull wrote: Here is an interesting article ... and interesting recipes too http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/lowcarb/exercise.html thanks, good article and in line with my experience. The article says moderate exercise. "Keep in mind however, you should avoid high-intensity and high-duration exercise..." For me, running is *always* high enough intensity that I need glycogen to help fuel it. Walking is I used to need glycogen to run also! I would run and by the end of half an hour run I would be extremely tired. Now, though, I run for 1 hour 35 minutes and I was not tired, my legs were "as good as new". Again, I ran at low intensity. I think that it was a fascinating experiment (for me anyway). I will definitely run a 1/2 marathon, unfortunately, registration for it is now closed. My boss is going to run it, as well as the full marathon (which is also closed for new registrations). different. For each person the intensity of running will be different; even slow jogging can be muscularly intense for some. I tried low-carb for 6 months and had to cut my exercise workload a great deal. For me it simply did not work. Some people's physiology may be better adapted to a stricter low-carb lifestyle. Thank you for sharing your relevant personal experience. Maybe I am somehow more adaptable to LC, it is hard to say, or maybe you like to run faster than I do. I always liked fat. I found I did not really lose weight on low-carb because I would eat too many fat calories. I do not lose weight either, fortunately, as I do not need to lose weight. But I am eating "to my heart's content", which is extremely nice to me compared to being somewhat hungry on a moderate carb, limited calorie diet. I am greatly hoping that this diet will work for me in the long run. The people on the paleo email mailing list who hd been on this for a long time are all very happy and relaxed about their eating, which is great. (there i san obvious selection bias in that sample of people, but still, it is nice) Yes actually I learned alot from trying the low-carb, and I leaned toward the paleo side of it as well. As a result my diet is more balanced and more satisfying now too. Calorie control is the way to go - ask Lance armstrong. This year I've been eating a not-so-low carb diet, but it does have the shape of a TKD diet, particularly for the simple carbs that I enjoy - and my exercise is better than ever. Where is LYLE McDONALD (author of CKD) when these discussions come up? Lyle hangs out in misc.fitness.weights... Yes but Lyle also pokes his head in here sometimes... - Tony |
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