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Dogman wrote:
And our debt keeps increasing because the American people can't yet get it across to our elected representatives that we want them to STOP THE SPENDING! PERIOD! One of the historical feratures of democracies (of all types including republics) is that they last while fiscally responsible people are in charge. Eventually the masses figure out that they can vote themselves the public treasury and the democracy goes broke. This is currently happening world wide and for any one democracy it's a matter of time. Some are in less trouble than others but done are doing well. The low carb tie in is very loose. The poor must eat high carb diets because they can't afford the better quality low carb meat and vegitable based diet. Economic decline means more poor people in developed countries and more starving in undeveloped countries. Eventually world trade and off shoring well put an end to hunger but it will take a few more decade long economic up and down cycles. Until then we'll have people who eat cattle fodder because they can't afford to feed it to the livestock. |
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On 17/10/2011 11:33 PM, James Warren wrote:
On 10/16/2011 10:31 PM, Dogman wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:46:07 +1000, wrote: On 17/10/2011 3:46 AM, Dogman wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:41:01 +1000, wrote: [...] If you are making payments, why is your debt increasing? Hey, Sgt. Preston, if we weren't making payments the entire global financial system would already have collapsed. Paying the loans off you dimwit, not just the interest. You aren't reducing the debt, you are just treading water. Again, moron, you asked why the debt is increasing. It's because we keep spending more than taxes bring in. It's really that simple, which means that you won't be able to understand it. Tell you what...you worry about Canada's debt, and I'll worry about America's. http://www.debtclock.ca/ Troll. -- Dogman So comparing US to Canada. http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ We find that the per person debt share of the national debt is three times higher for Americans than for Canadians. How did that happen? Canada has more social welfare programs than the US. Don't tell him that, he'll want to immigrate. Tell him that Canadian girls have no vaginas, but three mothers. Americans don't like mother in laws. You can tell by all the mother in law jokes. It gets more scary when you factor in private debt. They must give credit cards away like candy in the US. |
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In article
, " wrote: Still waiting to see where that senate committee report says the USA is responsible for what is happening in Ireland, Greece, and next Italy. So you're saying that capitalism's answer to obesity is low employment, that it encourages lowcarbing (and low fat, and low protein consumption) as well? Oh, and my sig is "my" sig. Get used to it. -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And itıs not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. Thatıs hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they donıt get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
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Elmo wrote: If you are making payments, why is your debt increasing? Because someone hijacked a news group? -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And itıs not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. Thatıs hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they donıt get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:13:59 +1000, Elmo
wrote: On 17/10/2011 11:41 AM, Dogman wrote: Clearly, economics and America are things you know nothing about. I know a lot about economics, and I know what your own government, coupled with many other internationally renowned, well experienced and very fiscally aware authorities state. I know nothing about the imaginary America that you seem to live in. Do you have to go through the back of an old wardrobe to get there? BWAH!!! -- [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And itıs not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. Thatıs hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they donıt get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:13:59 +1000, Elmo
wrote: [...] I suppose that anyone else who states the truth about the US economy is clueless too? What kind of stupid question is that? Whose truth? Yours? Joel Stein's? There is only one truth. The true, unbiased record of events. The suggestion that there is more than one truth can only come from juvenile or mendacious minds. There are always different truths, whether you want to admit it or not. There's your version, for example, and my version. My version is fully supported by facts, yours is supported by hyperbole, gross distortion, and bull caca. Yeah, riiiight. I think that I would prefer to believe your own congress, What would you like to believe about them? Alan Greenspan, the World Bank, and China itself Yet China continues to invest in our bonds! And the World Bank is basically funded by us, and we're its largest shareholder! China has begun cutting back on all US/foreign investment. Oh, please. They're buying less these days because less is needed. But they're still buying, as are most countries (even countries who supposedly hate us), because it's still the safest investment on the planet. And if they ever stop buying, so will we, if you know what I mean. Let's see how that works out for them, EH? before fiscally illiterate boobs like you. Alan Greenspan has both the credentials and a lifetime of experience, you don't even have a grasp of basic fiscal reality. Alan Greenspan helped to get us into this mess! So who should know better? Could it be that the guy doesn't want to share the blame for what happened? Really, Sgt. Preston, please start talking about low-carb eating, something you may (or may not) know something about. I know a lot about low carb eating, I have been low carb for decades. Then why not talk about it, it's something you should know something about, right? It's obvious that you don't know anything about the U.S, economics, etc. You with your xenophobic BS I'm not xenophobic. I generally like foreigners. Especially Canadians. But those foreigners who show even a hint of anti-Americanism will not be treated kindly by me. are the one who started this little foray into political areas. Maybe you shouldn't have started it? I haven't started one political tirade. Not one! But I'm not the kind of person who easily turns the other cheek, so if others here want to make this an American bash-fest, well, you're not going to like what I have to say in RESPONSE to that. Clearly, economics and America are things you know nothing about. I know a lot about economics You haven't shown anything here thus far that would make anyone ever believe that. But there's merit in not giving up. and I know what your own government, coupled with many other internationally renowned, well experienced and very fiscally aware authorities state. No, what you know is only what a handful of radical lefists and miscellaneous nincompoops have said. And like many true-believers, you have no desire to look any further. They reinforced your own beliefs, and that's all that matters to you. The actual truth has no currency in your little kingdom. -- Dogman |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:48:38 +1000, Elmo
wrote: [...] Again, moron, you asked why the debt is increasing. It's because we keep spending more than taxes bring in. I know why it is increasing, as does anyone who is sentient and capable of reading. I just wanted you to admit it. I've been saying that from the get-go. So has everyone else. That you're just now figuring it out, well, you must be a member of Mensa too, EH? you spend huge amounts but have nothing to show for it The most powerful nation on earth has nothing to show for it? Producers of the most technology, the most food, the best health-care system, the most medical advancements, the best pharmaceutical drugs, the most scientific advancements, the best military, the best institutions of higher learning, one of the highest standards of living, etc. have nothing to show for it? Are you from Canada, or from Pluto? other than more enemies and less international respect. I think it's a pretty good exercise, actually, to be judged by the kinds of countries who hate us, and are our enemies. Knowing that countries like Iran, North Korea, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. hate us, well, that just brings a smile to my face. Most countries' debts are a results of spending that has given their citizens advantage. U.S citizens have had it pretty good for a long, long time, if they were willing to work hard for a living. A lot of that debt is due to providing a safety net for those who are unable or unwilling to work for a living. And when we send you the bill for living under our nuclear umbrella all these years, your debt is going to go through the roof. It's really that simple, which means that you won't be able to understand it. I can understand you and there isn't much around that is simpler than you are. Well, there is one thing... Tell you what...you worry about Canada's debt, and I'll worry about America's. I am not worried about Canada's debt, Canadians, aren't governed by fiscal illiterates, Then how did you get all that debt? Canada doesn't start wars But what it does, of course, is live safely under our nuclear umbrella, for which Americans pay. By the way, we don't start wars either. But we're pretty good at finishing them. Canada will eventually overcome it Of course you will. And so will the U.S. And it'll happen that much faster by you worrying only about YOUR problems, while we worry about ours, you pompous, arrogant, ungrateful little prick. With neighbors like you, we don't need enemies. -- Dogman |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:33:33 -0300, James Warren
wrote: [...] Tell you what...you worry about Canada's debt, and I'll worry about America's. http://www.debtclock.ca/ Troll. So comparing US to Canada. http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ We find that the per person debt share of the national debt is three times higher for Americans than for Canadians. How did that happen? Can't you read either? WE SPEND MORE THAN WE TAKE IN! But let me ask you the questions now, okay? Why do YOU think our debt is greater than yours? How do YOU think it happened? Huh? -- Dogman |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:19:41 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
wrote: Dogman wrote: And our debt keeps increasing because the American people can't yet get it across to our elected representatives that we want them to STOP THE SPENDING! PERIOD! One of the historical feratures of democracies (of all types including republics) is that they last while fiscally responsible people are in charge. Eventually the masses figure out that they can vote themselves the public treasury and the democracy goes broke. This is currently happening world wide and for any one democracy it's a matter of time. Some are in less trouble than others but done are doing well. You bet, Doug. Those chickens are finally coming home to roost. The low carb tie in is very loose. The poor must eat high carb diets because they can't afford the better quality low carb meat and vegitable based diet. Economic decline means more poor people in developed countries and more starving in undeveloped countries. Eventually world trade and off shoring well put an end to hunger but it will take a few more decade long economic up and down cycles. Until then we'll have people who eat cattle fodder because they can't afford to feed it to the livestock. I'm not sure that I totally agree with that, Doug. Yes, eating low-carb can be expensive, but it doesn't really have to be, if the respective governments would get out of the way. What were once subsistence farmers (and doing rather well) are now often forced to move to the cities (to make a living) and live off the government or international aide. That's not by accident either, because government wants its citizens dependent on the them for their existence. What better way could a government want as a way to control its people? There's already no good reason for anyone on this planet to ever starve, if governments would just stay out of the way. I'd worry more about the damage done by too much food than by too little. -- Dogman |
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