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Old November 25th, 2012, 12:22 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Harold Groot
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:06:49 -0500, Dogman wrote:
He didn't "come at you." He simply offered advice, etc. And in a
rather nice way, I would add.


Let me get this straight. You think "Reality check time" is "a rather
nice way"?!?

Maybe there's a regional language difference at work here. Maybe
there's a generation gap at work here. I can't really say about that.
What I CAN say is "Reality Check" comes across to me as a HUGE insult.
It's not just a mild "You're a bit off target here" or even a flat
"You're wrong", it's "YOU ARE SO F**KING MESSED UP THAT YOU ARE OUT OF
TOUCH WITH REALITY, I.E. YOU ARE CRAZY".

It's also a HELL of a condescending attitude - that he gets to define
what reality actually is. It says it's over and done with, that no
discussion is allowed and that my opinion is worthless.

Well, enough is enough. It doesn't even matter at this point who is
right and who is wrong. It doesn't matter if it's a regional
difference in language, a generation gap or something else. It's clear
that I won't find the type of support and encouragement that I'm
looking for in this newsgroup. I'll look elsewhere.


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Old November 25th, 2012, 12:31 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Harold Groot wrote:

BY HIS OWN STANDARDS I FIT INTO THE 2 POUNDS/WEEK CATEGORY.


Please, please, please learn from your previous experiences then. What
actually happened in the past? There's a reason you're restarting.
What happened? How fast did you regain?

In the Atkins books there's a discussion of suseptibility. Understand
that high suseptibility means both "easy come" and "easy go".

Earlier I did the discussion of one bite hurting. How hard it is to
figure out "One bite of what?".

A bite of a specific food that is a binge trigger for you? Some of us
have them some of us don't. They have trigger immediate binges or they
can push us down a slippery slope. It is important to count the
discovery of each one as a victory. Beat yourself up over a binge and
it sets up a damaging precedent.

A bite of food above a specific glycemic load? Happens for some of use
not for others. Has to do with insulin reaction. Again it is important
to count the discovery of it as a victory.

And yet not taking that bite of the food on the next rung on schedule
has its own set of problems. Decreasing mood from cortisol. Decreasing
metabolism from T3 and leptin. The concept of CCLL is to avoid these
down sides and also to discover the upper limits. "One bite of what?"
is in both directions. It's the puzzle of low carbing that it's not no
carbing. It's the puzzle of Atkins that you need to exceed your limits
to find your limits.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 02:28 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Cheri[_4_]
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"Harold Groot" wrote in message
...

Well, enough is enough. It doesn't even matter at this point who is
right and who is wrong. It doesn't matter if it's a regional
difference in language, a generation gap or something else. It's clear
that I won't find the type of support and encouragement that I'm
looking for in this newsgroup. I'll look elsewhere.


Good luck Harold, I hope you're successful.

Cheri

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Old November 25th, 2012, 01:02 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Nov 24, 7:48*pm, Dogman wrote:


I see with your excellent intellect and social skills you've managed
to make some new friends here, eh Dogman?
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Old November 25th, 2012, 04:29 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Dogman
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 05:02:22 -0800 (PST), "
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On Nov 24, 7:48*pm, Dogman wrote:


I see with your excellent intellect and social skills you've managed
to make some new friends here, eh Dogman?


Actually, asshole, I was trying to keep Harold from overreacting to
Doug's reply. But Harold's having none of it, which is too bad.

It's been kind of enjoyable here without your constant ankle-biting
and childish bickering, don't you think? Maybe you could do everyone
a favor and stay away permanently?

Nah, that would be too much to hope for.

Asshole.



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Dogman

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about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
 




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