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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:05 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Robert Miles[_3_]
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I've seen some plastic bags of beef jerky, rather salty but not requiring refrigeration.

Here in northern Alabama, we had a 4.5 day power outage from a tornado last year. It seems we get all our power from one group of power plants, and the tornado hit the area where the several high-voltage power lines that bring us power were spreading out from that group of power plants.

To those planning to use microwaves: I've never seen a microwave that didn't require electricity, so those of you might need to look for the gasoline-powered generators that can give your home some electricity, although probably less than usual.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 03:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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wrote:
Susan wrote:

... And will
leave the hot water dripping starting tomorrow in the downstairs
bathroom so I don't lose hot water by keeping the hw heater running
without shutting off, same as Irene.


What significant advantage is there to wasting hot water
going down the drain? A tank type hot water heater is
going to keep the water hot, close to it's target temp,
regardless of whether you draw water or not. That idea
is like opening windows in winter so the furnace will run
to keep the house warm..... If you want to do something
to increase the amount of hot water that you'd have
available after the power goes off, then turn up the temp
on the water heater. Also, if it's a basic gas water heater,
they run without power. The power vented types or electric
ones obviously need power.


If the water heater has electric ignition, then a power failure can
switch it to pilot light mode. It depends on the exact technology in
the heater whether it depends on wall power.

The new one we had installed 5-6 years ago had a thermocouple to
power their thermostat and pizeroelectric effect to ignite so they
click. That made the heater immune to power losses.

Of course it sat next to the sump that had an electric pump. ;^)
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Old October 29th, 2012, 03:29 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Jean B. wrote:

more nut butters and seeds to mix into it


This one caught my eye. It sounds like an idea with a lot of potential.

What sort of seeds do you mix into what sort of butters? I tend to eat
butters made from seeds (sunflower sun butter, seseme tahini), nuts
(almond or cashew buts), legumes (bean paste, peanut butter). But the
only crunchy type I have is peanut butter with unground peanuts mixed
into it.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 03:37 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Robert Miles wrote:

I've seen some bag-like packages of sardines and some bag-like packages
of salmon. Some people can tear them open, but I prefer a pair of scissors.


This package type has become common for tuna. Only a matter of time
before it started appearing for other fish. Cool.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 03:40 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Jean B. wrote:

... Why do so many medical folks hold such archaic
views on nutrition? .... But
dieticians? Surely there must be SOME enlightened ones.


If you find one recommend them in many different ways. They are out
there, a few.
  #26  
Old October 29th, 2012, 03:49 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Jean B. wrote:
Cheri wrote:

I totally agree with that. I cringe at the meals they try to foist
on some of my diabetic friends.


I don't understand the approach that seems to be pretty much eat
what you want, test, and compensate with meds. Why not pay
attention to carbs in the first place? (I apologize if this is
naive. Because I am not diabetic, my knowledge of that is
somewhat superficial.)


It's a weakness in the allopathic model of medicine that has dominated
for over a century. The model beat out all others and for the first
time in history it became safer to go to the hospital than to stay at
home and hope your injury healed. The model is based on adding
medications to cure existing illnesses and using surgery to remove
problems. Prevention is an afterthought in th emodel.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 04:38 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Oct 29, 10:13*am, Doug Freyburger wrote:
wrote:
Susan wrote:


... And will
leave the hot water dripping starting tomorrow in the downstairs
bathroom so I don't lose hot water by keeping the hw heater running
without shutting off, same as Irene.


What significant advantage is there to wasting hot water
going down the drain? * *A tank type hot water heater is
going to keep the water hot, close to it's target temp,
regardless of whether you draw water or not. * That idea
is like opening windows in winter so the furnace will run
to keep the house warm..... * *If you want to do something
to increase the amount of hot water that you'd have
available after the power goes off, then turn up the temp
on the water heater. * Also, if it's a basic gas water heater,
they run without power. * The power vented types or electric
ones obviously need power.


If the water heater has electric ignition, then a power failure can
switch it to pilot light mode.


Every appliance I have ever seen that has electronic ignition
did not have a pilot light. It would seem the whole point of
having electronic ignition is to avoid a pilot light. So, I can't
begin to imagine how the above could work.


*It depends on the exact technology in
the heater whether it depends on wall power.


For a tank type water heater the distinguishing factor
in all the units I've seen is whether they are a power
vent type or use a traditional flue. The power vent
ones need AC because they are power vented. The
ones that vent via flue rely on a pilot light, at least the
one's I've seen. I suppose there could be tank type
that are not power vented that have electronic ignition,
but I've never seen one.




The new one we had installed 5-6 years ago had a thermocouple to
power their thermostat and pizeroelectric effect to ignite so they
click. *That made the heater immune to power losses.

Of course it sat next to the sump that had an electric pump. *;^)- Hide quoted text -

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Old October 29th, 2012, 07:23 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Walter Bushell
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In article ,
"Jean B." wrote:

Here in the Northeast we may get a really ugly storm. I am
wondering what LC things would be good to have on hand in case of
a power outage. I don't want to be driven to eat more carbs just
because the power is out, but I am having a hard time coming up
with things to eat--and what to put in my coffee. (Previously, I
could use the little packs of milk--even chocolate milk. I gazed
at the little packs of nondairy milks at WF but the few they had
did not seem to be LC.)

I am having a hard time coming up with things. All I have thought
of is some cheeses. (Laughing Cow, which I normally don't
particularly like, has an odd label that says "refrigerate after
purchase"! Can string cheese stay out for a while?) I see some
hard sausages but try not to eat much of that sort of thing.
There are nuts and canned fish--not that I want to live on either
for many meals.

I guess I should get ice (if there is any left), and then I could
keep "milk" and a few other things in a cooler. I am sure I am
just blanking on numerous good choices, and would greatly
appreciate any suggestions that can be made in the next day or
two, so I can stock up.

Thanks!

Jean B.


Maybe too late for this storm, but:



If you can tolerate dairy whey powder, one can live on that and
coconut oil or milk for a reasonable time.

Canned fish, ham or chicken.

Pork rinds 50% fat and the rest nearly all protein.



The thing is not to have epicurian delights, but to get through a
difficult period. It's easier to fast when one knows it's optional.

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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Jean B.
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Walter Bushell wrote:
In ,
"Jean wrote:

Here in the Northeast we may get a really ugly storm. I am
wondering what LC things would be good to have on hand in case of
a power outage. I don't want to be driven to eat more carbs just
because the power is out, but I am having a hard time coming up
with things to eat--and what to put in my coffee. (Previously, I
could use the little packs of milk--even chocolate milk. I gazed
at the little packs of nondairy milks at WF but the few they had
did not seem to be LC.)

I am having a hard time coming up with things. All I have thought
of is some cheeses. (Laughing Cow, which I normally don't
particularly like, has an odd label that says "refrigerate after
purchase"! Can string cheese stay out for a while?) I see some
hard sausages but try not to eat much of that sort of thing.
There are nuts and canned fish--not that I want to live on either
for many meals.

I guess I should get ice (if there is any left), and then I could
keep "milk" and a few other things in a cooler. I am sure I am
just blanking on numerous good choices, and would greatly
appreciate any suggestions that can be made in the next day or
two, so I can stock up.

Thanks!

Jean B.


Maybe too late for this storm, but:



If you can tolerate dairy whey powder, one can live on that and
coconut oil or milk for a reasonable time.

Canned fish, ham or chicken.

Pork rinds 50% fat and the rest nearly all protein.



The thing is not to have epicurian delights, but to get through a
difficult period. It's easier to fast when one knows it's optional.

Thanks. I do have protein powder... AND I also think I have some
protein bar recipes printed out. Methinks I should take a look
sooner rather than later. Oddly enough, I never think to make a
beverage out of such things. (I have them for use as a flour
substitute.)
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Old October 29th, 2012, 11:25 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Walter Bushell wrote:

Maybe too late for this storm, but:

If you can tolerate dairy whey powder, one can live on that and
coconut oil or milk for a reasonable time.


If you imagine turning the clock back and starting prep a month ago
there's pemmican. Half and half (weight, volume, whatever) double dried
jerky finely powdered and fat. Melt them together into bars.
Optionally add some dried berries or herbs. Pioneers lived off the
stuff for months on end. Close to 50-50 fat-protein (by the gram,
calorie, whatever it's not an exact formula).
 




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