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Old May 16th, 2006, 01:49 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default Is it ok to eat really high sodium foods on LC?

I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.

Thanks for any advice.

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Old May 16th, 2006, 02:07 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Welcome. Too much sodium in anyones diet is not good. Most prefer to
eat unprocessed meats because the processed lunch meats, hotdogs,
sausages, and bacon are chock full of which preservatives, sodium,
hidden sugars and nitrates cause some people some trouble like
stalling, water retention, and elevated blood sugars. One of the first
things your body does when low carbing is it rids itself of the stored
water when you stop eating the carbs. Eating large amounts of sodium
will counteract your body releasing its "bloat". Most people in here
stick to unprocessed meats. Steaks, hamburger, chicken, fresh fish,
pork etc. Some eat preservative and sugar free sausages, bacon etc but
it can be hard to find.

Try "pure" meats, salads, cheeses including cottage cheese, eggs, and
veggies to start but steer clear of peas corn and carrots ( note too
that cheese can cause some people problems)
Best Wishes
Laureen
410/180/180
Had WLS Jan 31st 2005, Lives Low Carb, Low Fat, Low Cal


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wrote:
I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.

Thanks for any advice.


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Old May 16th, 2006, 02:38 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Good phrase: Pure meats.

Ok...going to put my salty, seasoned burger patties back in the freezer
for now

THANKS!

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Old May 16th, 2006, 05:02 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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wrote in message
oups.com...
I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.

Thanks for any advice.



I eat cheddar cheese like there's no tomorrow. Works fine.


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Old May 16th, 2006, 06:33 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Just remember if you're counting cals, a one inch cube of cheese has
100 calories. Thats dang small. It adds up fast just like with nuts. A
little is a lot!
Laureen



Joe the Aroma wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.

Thanks for any advice.



I eat cheddar cheese like there's no tomorrow. Works fine.


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Old May 16th, 2006, 07:06 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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wrote:
I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.

Thanks for any advice.


Are you LCing strictly to lose weight? With no improvement in general
health other than losing weight? If this is the case, then eat any crap
you want that happens to be low carb.

If you want to maximise, and I mean really maximize, your health, eat
only real natural whole-food foods with the least amount of refining,
processing and added chemicals, including salt.

By real foods, I mean real fresh meats from animals raised with clean
water, a clean environment and clean real food and the minimum of
medications and pelletized manufactured animal feeds. Real fruits and
veggies from plants raised with clean water in a clean environment with
the minimum of chemicals, pesticides, herbicides, etc. in clean rich
soils.

Any food with a food label on it is not always the best choice. There
is always a better choice. Real food generally has no food label on it.
Think fresh meat or fresh produce... no food labels.

I shop from two areas of the grocery store, the meat dept and the fresh
produce dept. If you can get your food from a small organic producer,
even better.

Stick to fresh whole foods with little or no processing for the most
part, and if you consume a small amount of processed foods, you'll be
fine. But if your diet is primarily processed or refined foods, you
will at some point have health problems.

I strive to consume at least 95%+ of my food from real food sources
with no processing or refining other than general prepping and cooking.
That way when I eat a bit of processed food, I know that I will still
be healthy.

TC

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Old May 16th, 2006, 07:32 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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wrote:
wrote:

I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.


Are you LCing strictly to lose weight? With no improvement in general
health other than losing weight? If this is the case, then eat any crap
you want that happens to be low carb.


If you're low carbing to lose fat, then you'll understand that salt
causes water retention and neither salt nor water are fat. Salt
in the diet does not interfere with fat loss for all but a tiny
minority. It can mask fat loss for a while, though.

If you want to maximise, and I mean really maximize, your health, eat
only real natural whole-food foods with the least amount of refining,
processing and added chemicals, including salt.


There's also a sliding scale to this. Processing comes in
degrees.

By real foods, I mean real fresh meats from animals raised with clean
water, a clean environment and clean real food and the minimum of
medications and pelletized manufactured animal feeds. Real fruits and
veggies from plants raised with clean water in a clean environment with
the minimum of chemicals, pesticides, herbicides, etc. in clean rich
soils.


For example a processed meat that's a modern recipe where
you can't even tell what animal it was made from compared
to sausage made using a recipes that's centuries old. Both
are processed but one has stood the test of time.

Sure it's true that pork cut fresh from the bone is better than
salt cured country ham. But it's also true that country ham
is better than square stuff in a plastic container.

Any food with a food label on it is not always the best choice. There
is always a better choice. Real food generally has no food label on it.
Think fresh meat or fresh produce... no food labels.


But there are also worse choices as well so it is a
judgement call. Where to draw the line? Have no doubt -
the more conservatively you draw the line at the start
the better you'll end up doing for both health and loss.

But in that judgement call there are more choices than left
over fresh roast beef and a fake looking hot dog that mentions
beef on the label but you can't tell if it's a major ingredient
or a spice.

In between there's jerky (many will call it unprocessed) and
beef summer sausage.

I shop from two areas of the grocery store, the meat dept and the fresh
produce dept. If you can get your food from a small organic producer,
even better.


With pork there's a similar scale - fresh cut, ham or bacon,
salami or peperoni, some stuff in a plastic wrapped package.

Stick to fresh whole foods with little or no processing for the most
part, and if you consume a small amount of processed foods, you'll be
fine. But if your diet is primarily processed or refined foods, you
will at some point have health problems.


Taking into account the convenience of prepared meats and
the ill effects of the stuff that comes in a plastic package with
no clear-cut animal content, I take traditional nature of the
recipe into account. Peperoni is about as processed as I
like to get. Fresh, yes. Ham/bacon, yes. Salami/pepperoni,
yes, non-kosher but okay brand franks rarely, tube looking
frnaks with no known brand, probably not even at a concert.

I strive to consume at least 95%+ of my food from real food sources
with no processing or refining other than general prepping and cooking.
That way when I eat a bit of processed food, I know that I will still
be healthy.


The percentage method is the way to go. Pick a percentage
that you *can* handle. Do that for a while. Then think it over and
see if you can handle a higher percentage. Get over 50% and
at least your corpse won't be preserved in advance. Get over
80% and you'll think brocolli is a normal food not an ingredient
in canned soups. Get over 90% and you'll loose the doctor's
business card and have to look on the Internet for ones carried
by your insurance.

Is it okay to eat salty foods? Yup. The human body is evolved
to eject large amounts of salt. Is it the best way to go? Nope.
It there a gray scale in between that takes making judgement
calls and compromises to find what works for you? Definitely.

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Old May 16th, 2006, 09:02 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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My dentist and his wife are terrific friends of mine. They are estatic
to see us finally dropping our weight. One suggestion from them was
this: Shop the outer aisles of the store and the dairy section. In a
lot of stores the dairy section is on the outer aisle too, not mine.
Laureen



wrote:
wrote:
I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.

Thanks for any advice.


Are you LCing strictly to lose weight? With no improvement in general
health other than losing weight? If this is the case, then eat any crap
you want that happens to be low carb.

If you want to maximise, and I mean really maximize, your health, eat
only real natural whole-food foods with the least amount of refining,
processing and added chemicals, including salt.

By real foods, I mean real fresh meats from animals raised with clean
water, a clean environment and clean real food and the minimum of
medications and pelletized manufactured animal feeds. Real fruits and
veggies from plants raised with clean water in a clean environment with
the minimum of chemicals, pesticides, herbicides, etc. in clean rich
soils.

Any food with a food label on it is not always the best choice. There
is always a better choice. Real food generally has no food label on it.
Think fresh meat or fresh produce... no food labels.

I shop from two areas of the grocery store, the meat dept and the fresh
produce dept. If you can get your food from a small organic producer,
even better.

Stick to fresh whole foods with little or no processing for the most
part, and if you consume a small amount of processed foods, you'll be
fine. But if your diet is primarily processed or refined foods, you
will at some point have health problems.

I strive to consume at least 95%+ of my food from real food sources
with no processing or refining other than general prepping and cooking.
That way when I eat a bit of processed food, I know that I will still
be healthy.

TC


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Old May 16th, 2006, 09:18 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Laureen" wrote in message
ups.com...

Just remember if you're counting cals, a one inch cube of cheese has
100 calories. Thats dang small. It adds up fast just like with nuts. A
little is a lot!
Laureen


That's true for any low carb (hell, low fat, hell, low anything) food.

Joe the Aroma wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.

Thanks for any advice.



I eat cheddar cheese like there's no tomorrow. Works fine.




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Old May 16th, 2006, 10:31 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default Is it ok to eat really high sodium foods on LC?

My point was how it is unbelievable how a few nuts and one teeny piece
of cheese can have so many calories. It is so easy to over due it when
it comes to nuts and cheese. Nobody can eat one nut or one ounce of
cheese. Kinda like the Lays potato chip commercial

Joe the Aroma wrote:
"Laureen" wrote in message
ups.com...

Just remember if you're counting cals, a one inch cube of cheese has
100 calories. Thats dang small. It adds up fast just like with nuts. A
little is a lot!
Laureen


That's true for any low carb (hell, low fat, hell, low anything) food.

Joe the Aroma wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
I think I could stick out LC, if I can buy a lot of the prepared meats,
but they have pretty high sodium levels. I don't have high blood
pressure or anything, but I'm wondering if all the sodium is good.

Thanks for any advice.


I eat cheddar cheese like there's no tomorrow. Works fine.



 




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