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Old September 17th, 2004, 12:35 PM
Bob in CT
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:04:06 GMT, PlacidBull wrote:

Hmmm David ... that's just off the wall wrong .... your statement is
wrong
... wrong ... wrong ... geeezzz

The human brain functions quite nicely on ketones.

Why would you make such a statement without at least doing preliminary
research?

That's why I warn people who come to this newsgroup to take what is said
here with a grain of salt, cross check what is posted here, make sure
what
is being stated is true.

Placid



It's entirely incorrect that the human brain needs 120g of carbs a day
just to function. The ONLY time in the last few YEARS I've gotten that
much carb is on my long bike ride days and a few periodic splurges of
carbs. Other than that, I stay well under 120g a day of carbs, and I feel
great. In fact, on low fat, I had the 3pm sleepies, which are completely
gone on low carb. Excessive carbs are very bad for you.



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Old September 17th, 2004, 12:35 PM
Bob in CT
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:04:06 GMT, PlacidBull wrote:

Hmmm David ... that's just off the wall wrong .... your statement is
wrong
... wrong ... wrong ... geeezzz

The human brain functions quite nicely on ketones.

Why would you make such a statement without at least doing preliminary
research?

That's why I warn people who come to this newsgroup to take what is said
here with a grain of salt, cross check what is posted here, make sure
what
is being stated is true.

Placid



It's entirely incorrect that the human brain needs 120g of carbs a day
just to function. The ONLY time in the last few YEARS I've gotten that
much carb is on my long bike ride days and a few periodic splurges of
carbs. Other than that, I stay well under 120g a day of carbs, and I feel
great. In fact, on low fat, I had the 3pm sleepies, which are completely
gone on low carb. Excessive carbs are very bad for you.



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  #13  
Old September 17th, 2004, 12:46 PM
Phil M.
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Ignoramus474 wrote:

In article , Phil M. wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:

In article , Phil M.
wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:

In article , Phil M.
wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:

So, I asked a question on alt.support.diet.low-carb and
rec.running on whether running a *half marathon* on LC was
possible.

Haven't these sort of experiments already been done?

Phil M.


I did some googling and did not find any, so, if you find
something, please let me know!

Also, even if someone did it, I was still curious if *I* can do
it.

I'm sure you *can* do it without carbs, or with carbs, or without
calories, or while smoking cigars. If this is your first, then to
what are you comparing it? Are you suggesting that just because you
can do it then low carb must be OK for endurance athletes? I think
you would have to run several half marathons using different diets
in order to determine which one is best for that distance. Even
then, there are too many variables that come in to play from one
race to the next and all the training that takes place in between.
JMTC

My objective is to demonstrate that I can run a half marathon on
LC. That would be pretty cool. I have no objective to run fast in
that half marathon.

I, obviously, realize that I cannot compete with athletes, because I
am not an athlete...

But, as a personal challenge type of goal, running 1/2 marathon on
LC cool.


OK, I understand your thinking. I'm saying that based purely on your
training you can already do this regardless of what diet you're on.


Well, it would be a good experiment to show the people who think that
running half marathon on LC is impossible, that they are mistaken.

However, most people (runners, joggers, athletes, non-athletes,
whatever) would want to run a half marathon based on an *optimal*
nutritional plan. If you are attempting to prove which diet is
optimal for long distance running, then that's different. But it
sounds to me like you're trying to prove that low carb is fine for
training for and running a half marathon. If that's the case, then
check my sig. At any rate, good luck. ;-)


I agree and, probably, for healthy athletes, this diet is not
optimal. But, LC does not preclude long distance running, as some
might think.


Who's saying you can't run long distance with low carb? I think most
would agree that you can, just not optimally.

Phil M.

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them all yourself." *Martin Vanbee
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Old September 17th, 2004, 12:46 PM
Phil M.
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Ignoramus474 wrote:

In article , Phil M. wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:

In article , Phil M.
wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:

In article , Phil M.
wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:

So, I asked a question on alt.support.diet.low-carb and
rec.running on whether running a *half marathon* on LC was
possible.

Haven't these sort of experiments already been done?

Phil M.


I did some googling and did not find any, so, if you find
something, please let me know!

Also, even if someone did it, I was still curious if *I* can do
it.

I'm sure you *can* do it without carbs, or with carbs, or without
calories, or while smoking cigars. If this is your first, then to
what are you comparing it? Are you suggesting that just because you
can do it then low carb must be OK for endurance athletes? I think
you would have to run several half marathons using different diets
in order to determine which one is best for that distance. Even
then, there are too many variables that come in to play from one
race to the next and all the training that takes place in between.
JMTC

My objective is to demonstrate that I can run a half marathon on
LC. That would be pretty cool. I have no objective to run fast in
that half marathon.

I, obviously, realize that I cannot compete with athletes, because I
am not an athlete...

But, as a personal challenge type of goal, running 1/2 marathon on
LC cool.


OK, I understand your thinking. I'm saying that based purely on your
training you can already do this regardless of what diet you're on.


Well, it would be a good experiment to show the people who think that
running half marathon on LC is impossible, that they are mistaken.

However, most people (runners, joggers, athletes, non-athletes,
whatever) would want to run a half marathon based on an *optimal*
nutritional plan. If you are attempting to prove which diet is
optimal for long distance running, then that's different. But it
sounds to me like you're trying to prove that low carb is fine for
training for and running a half marathon. If that's the case, then
check my sig. At any rate, good luck. ;-)


I agree and, probably, for healthy athletes, this diet is not
optimal. But, LC does not preclude long distance running, as some
might think.


Who's saying you can't run long distance with low carb? I think most
would agree that you can, just not optimally.

Phil M.

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them all yourself." *Martin Vanbee
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Old September 17th, 2004, 01:16 PM
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David wrote:
:: Ignoramus474 wrote:
::
::: Actually, I have been eating around 60 or so carbs per day (a WAG),
::: for 2 months, and would be delighted to take some IQ test to show
::: that my brain function has not become any more impaired than it was
::: at the beginning. I know what my IQ normally works out to, so, it
::: would be interesting to compare.
:::
::: As for the muscle function, I do 50 pushups and 12 pullups per set
::: every day (2 sets of pushups and 3 sets of pullups). If anything,
::: pushups became a bit easier on LC.
::
:: Honeslty, I think you are dishonoring yourself and doing your body a
:: disservice by eating low carb.

Nonsense.


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Old September 17th, 2004, 01:16 PM
Roger Zoul
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David wrote:
:: Ignoramus474 wrote:
::
::: Actually, I have been eating around 60 or so carbs per day (a WAG),
::: for 2 months, and would be delighted to take some IQ test to show
::: that my brain function has not become any more impaired than it was
::: at the beginning. I know what my IQ normally works out to, so, it
::: would be interesting to compare.
:::
::: As for the muscle function, I do 50 pushups and 12 pullups per set
::: every day (2 sets of pushups and 3 sets of pullups). If anything,
::: pushups became a bit easier on LC.
::
:: Honeslty, I think you are dishonoring yourself and doing your body a
:: disservice by eating low carb.

Nonsense.


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Old September 17th, 2004, 01:17 PM
Roger Zoul
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David wrote:
:: "PlacidBull" wrote:
::
::: Why would you make such a statement without at least doing
::: preliminary research?
::
:: I have.

No, you have not.

::
::: That's why I warn people who come to this newsgroup to take what is
::: said here with a grain of salt, cross check what is posted here,
::: make sure what is being stated is true.
::
:: I agree.
::
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Old September 17th, 2004, 01:17 PM
Roger Zoul
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David wrote:
:: "PlacidBull" wrote:
::
::: Why would you make such a statement without at least doing
::: preliminary research?
::
:: I have.

No, you have not.

::
::: That's why I warn people who come to this newsgroup to take what is
::: said here with a grain of salt, cross check what is posted here,
::: make sure what is being stated is true.
::
:: I agree.
::
:: --
:: Nova Scotia, Canada


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Old September 17th, 2004, 01:54 PM
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Phil M. wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:


So, I asked a question on alt.support.diet.low-carb and
rec.running on whether running a *half marathon* on LC was possible.



Haven't these sort of experiments already been done?


And why do you think cross-posting a low-carb running thread into this
group is a good idea?

Dally

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Old September 17th, 2004, 02:04 PM
JMA
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Dally wrote:
Phil M. wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:


So, I asked a question on alt.support.diet.low-carb and
rec.running on whether running a *half marathon* on LC was

possible.


Haven't these sort of experiments already been done?


And why do you think cross-posting a low-carb running thread into

this
group is a good idea?

Dally


Because it gets the maximum amount of "Hey everybody! Look at me!"

My ex-husband used to smoke 2-3 packs a day and ran half marathons and
a full one, doesn't make it a good thing.

Jenn

 




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