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  #41  
Old September 18th, 2004, 03:41 AM
Willow
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Posts: n/a
Default

*big grin* I'm French Candian and 100% Cajun.. a buldozer wouldn't shut me
up ;op

--
Will~

196.2 / 133.4 / 137 lbs
89 / 60.5 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I think we are all saying the same thing just using different tools to get
it said, French Canadian blunt???? Nah???? WG, DH is French Canadian,
first child adopted into the states from Canada through catholic

charities,
raised in Chicago, and blunt about covers it, Lee
Willow wrote in message
. com...
I hadn't weighted 125 lbs since I was about 12 years old.. which is

about
18
years ago now O-O I'm old !!!!! *grin*

My original goal weight was 140 lbs.. when I got there I still felt

fat..
so
kept loosing.. down to 118.. at which weight I was too thin.. and

couldn't
eat a pea without seeing it on the scale.. so I adjusted.. back and

forth
to
125 lbs..

I agree that we tend to put down unrealistic goals.. but I think it's

part
of the process to realize they ARE unrealistic and to adjust yourself..
118lbs wasn't healthy (or good looking) for me.. I learned it..

Where I agree with you is that sometimes some members will put down
unrealistic goals, and instead of re-evaluating the goal they set down..
they put themselves down.. as if they are a failure because they can't

look
like Britney Spears.. or something.. ( that's very frustrating..

But where I kind get stuck is the idea that an "overweight goal" is a

bad
goal..

NUH HUH ! I have a member who started at 485 lbs.. she made it down to

180..
wanted that to be her goal.. and a receptionist was like "you can't,

it's
out of the range"... ARG YES YOU CAN ! learn to live with the new you..

and
when you're ready get back to loosing.. one day... you're much healthier

at
180 than at 485 ! or at 200 than at 600.. or...

see what I mean ? This is a life journey.. not a race.. and it's a

journey
one makes for oneself.. not to please the media/conventions/statistics..

I'm french Canadian, so I tend to be blunt, hope I haven't offended

you..
be
assured that I'm debating ideas.. not personalities or people worth or
whatever ;o)
--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for our day

to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Willow" wrote in message
om...
See I don't agree.. I think that choosing a goal weight depends

entirely
on
how you feel at any given weight..

I feel happy and healthy and energetic at 125 lbs.. I'm 5'5 30

years
old..
some women my age and height would be happy and healthy at 120.. I'm

not..
can't maintain it.. some others are happy and healthy at 135.. I'm

not..
I
feel flabby and unhealthy at that weight..

My best friend is my height.. and her weight maintains around 155

lbs
(which
is over WW range).. and it's great for her ! she feels great and she

looks
great.. and all is well in the world (she's 1 years younger than me)

I
have
another friend who's trying to maintain at 115... she ain't gonna..

but
hey..

I don't think you wanna go on statistics and measures and averages

etc..
doesn't mean a thing.. it can give you a starting point.. but won't

tell
you
what really matters... what matters is how you feel... so pick a

number..
see how you feel there.. if it's too hard to maintain.. choose a

higher
number.. if it doesn't feel like you lost enough.. keep loosing

(within
reason of course.. )you'll find your place..

I think Lee got it right.. not the easiest way.. but the most sane

one
I
would think..

This all being my opinion of course..

I don't disagree with anything you've said. But, the original

question
was
about choosing a goal weight - in advance of achieving the goal.

You're most comfortable at 125, and that's good. But, what if you

hadn't
weighed 125 in 15+ years? How would you know whether 125, or 115, or

135
was a reasonable and healthy goal? The original poster is currently

20
lbs
above her presumptive goal, so she is unlikely to know how she's going

to
feel at that goal weight, or how hard (or easy) it may be to maintain

at
that weight.

Many people (WW'ers excluded, presumably) choose weight goals based on
misinformation (e.g., choosing a weight goal that is achievable, but

is
still overweight), or that is unrealistic (e.g., choosing a weight

goal
based on fashion model sizing). With just a small bit of analysis, I

think
folks can be assisted in making reasonable choices for healthy weight
goals - goals that are a reasonable target to aim for, at least.

As you say, each of us needs to re-evaluate our goals once we achieve

them,
based on how we feel, how much energy we have, and how we like (or

dislike)
the way we look. On this we most definitely agree.

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary


--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for our

day
to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Katherine" wrote in message
...
I'm 5'9" female, and WW says I can weigh as much as 169 lbs.

This
seems a bit overboard for a 5'9" female, although I realize some

women
would be comfortable at this weight. I am currently 190.5

(which
is
a
size 16 at this height), only about 20 lbs from a potential goal
weight. Does anyone else here feel WW should split male/female
weights? 169 for a 5'9" male seems appropriate to me. I'm not

trying
to talk negatively about anyones goal weight (including my own!


but I am curious what others think of this.

Thanks in advance,
Shaynelle

Setting an appropriate target weight is not particularly easy, and
you've
gotten some good advice from the previous posters.

The appropriate weight for you depends on your goals, and how

motivated
you
are to achieve them. It also depends somewhat on your age. One

way
of
looking at weight is by comparing your weight percentile to others

of
your
height and gender. You don't state how old you are, so here are

some
representative numbers, based on a 5' 9" American woman who weighs

169
lbs:

If you are 50, you would be in the 35th weight percentile (in

other
words,
at 169 lbs, 65% of 5' 9", 50 year old American women would weigh

more
than
you).

If you are 40, you would be in the 42nd weight percentile.

If you are 30, you would be in the 52nd weight percentile.

If you are 20, you would be in the 64th weight percentile.

I find that comparing weight, height, age and gender can help in
identifying
reasonable weight loss goals (in addition to the more commonly

used
Body
Mass Index approach).

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary













  #42  
Old September 18th, 2004, 03:41 AM
Willow
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

*big grin* I'm French Candian and 100% Cajun.. a buldozer wouldn't shut me
up ;op

--
Will~

196.2 / 133.4 / 137 lbs
89 / 60.5 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I think we are all saying the same thing just using different tools to get
it said, French Canadian blunt???? Nah???? WG, DH is French Canadian,
first child adopted into the states from Canada through catholic

charities,
raised in Chicago, and blunt about covers it, Lee
Willow wrote in message
. com...
I hadn't weighted 125 lbs since I was about 12 years old.. which is

about
18
years ago now O-O I'm old !!!!! *grin*

My original goal weight was 140 lbs.. when I got there I still felt

fat..
so
kept loosing.. down to 118.. at which weight I was too thin.. and

couldn't
eat a pea without seeing it on the scale.. so I adjusted.. back and

forth
to
125 lbs..

I agree that we tend to put down unrealistic goals.. but I think it's

part
of the process to realize they ARE unrealistic and to adjust yourself..
118lbs wasn't healthy (or good looking) for me.. I learned it..

Where I agree with you is that sometimes some members will put down
unrealistic goals, and instead of re-evaluating the goal they set down..
they put themselves down.. as if they are a failure because they can't

look
like Britney Spears.. or something.. ( that's very frustrating..

But where I kind get stuck is the idea that an "overweight goal" is a

bad
goal..

NUH HUH ! I have a member who started at 485 lbs.. she made it down to

180..
wanted that to be her goal.. and a receptionist was like "you can't,

it's
out of the range"... ARG YES YOU CAN ! learn to live with the new you..

and
when you're ready get back to loosing.. one day... you're much healthier

at
180 than at 485 ! or at 200 than at 600.. or...

see what I mean ? This is a life journey.. not a race.. and it's a

journey
one makes for oneself.. not to please the media/conventions/statistics..

I'm french Canadian, so I tend to be blunt, hope I haven't offended

you..
be
assured that I'm debating ideas.. not personalities or people worth or
whatever ;o)
--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for our day

to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Willow" wrote in message
om...
See I don't agree.. I think that choosing a goal weight depends

entirely
on
how you feel at any given weight..

I feel happy and healthy and energetic at 125 lbs.. I'm 5'5 30

years
old..
some women my age and height would be happy and healthy at 120.. I'm

not..
can't maintain it.. some others are happy and healthy at 135.. I'm

not..
I
feel flabby and unhealthy at that weight..

My best friend is my height.. and her weight maintains around 155

lbs
(which
is over WW range).. and it's great for her ! she feels great and she

looks
great.. and all is well in the world (she's 1 years younger than me)

I
have
another friend who's trying to maintain at 115... she ain't gonna..

but
hey..

I don't think you wanna go on statistics and measures and averages

etc..
doesn't mean a thing.. it can give you a starting point.. but won't

tell
you
what really matters... what matters is how you feel... so pick a

number..
see how you feel there.. if it's too hard to maintain.. choose a

higher
number.. if it doesn't feel like you lost enough.. keep loosing

(within
reason of course.. )you'll find your place..

I think Lee got it right.. not the easiest way.. but the most sane

one
I
would think..

This all being my opinion of course..

I don't disagree with anything you've said. But, the original

question
was
about choosing a goal weight - in advance of achieving the goal.

You're most comfortable at 125, and that's good. But, what if you

hadn't
weighed 125 in 15+ years? How would you know whether 125, or 115, or

135
was a reasonable and healthy goal? The original poster is currently

20
lbs
above her presumptive goal, so she is unlikely to know how she's going

to
feel at that goal weight, or how hard (or easy) it may be to maintain

at
that weight.

Many people (WW'ers excluded, presumably) choose weight goals based on
misinformation (e.g., choosing a weight goal that is achievable, but

is
still overweight), or that is unrealistic (e.g., choosing a weight

goal
based on fashion model sizing). With just a small bit of analysis, I

think
folks can be assisted in making reasonable choices for healthy weight
goals - goals that are a reasonable target to aim for, at least.

As you say, each of us needs to re-evaluate our goals once we achieve

them,
based on how we feel, how much energy we have, and how we like (or

dislike)
the way we look. On this we most definitely agree.

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary


--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for our

day
to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Katherine" wrote in message
...
I'm 5'9" female, and WW says I can weigh as much as 169 lbs.

This
seems a bit overboard for a 5'9" female, although I realize some

women
would be comfortable at this weight. I am currently 190.5

(which
is
a
size 16 at this height), only about 20 lbs from a potential goal
weight. Does anyone else here feel WW should split male/female
weights? 169 for a 5'9" male seems appropriate to me. I'm not

trying
to talk negatively about anyones goal weight (including my own!


but I am curious what others think of this.

Thanks in advance,
Shaynelle

Setting an appropriate target weight is not particularly easy, and
you've
gotten some good advice from the previous posters.

The appropriate weight for you depends on your goals, and how

motivated
you
are to achieve them. It also depends somewhat on your age. One

way
of
looking at weight is by comparing your weight percentile to others

of
your
height and gender. You don't state how old you are, so here are

some
representative numbers, based on a 5' 9" American woman who weighs

169
lbs:

If you are 50, you would be in the 35th weight percentile (in

other
words,
at 169 lbs, 65% of 5' 9", 50 year old American women would weigh

more
than
you).

If you are 40, you would be in the 42nd weight percentile.

If you are 30, you would be in the 52nd weight percentile.

If you are 20, you would be in the 64th weight percentile.

I find that comparing weight, height, age and gender can help in
identifying
reasonable weight loss goals (in addition to the more commonly

used
Body
Mass Index approach).

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary













  #43  
Old September 18th, 2004, 03:42 AM
Willow
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

That's the way M'lady !

--
Will~

196.2 / 133.4 / 137 lbs
89 / 60.5 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
thank you, I arrived at my answer by deciding it was more a matter of

health
and over all quality of life, Yes I want to look the best I can, but I

also
know me, I refuse to be hungry and I refuse to be miserable to look good,

so
by doing it my way I give myself permission to set a goal and then change

it
and not be a failure, Lee
Willow wrote in message
om...
See I don't agree.. I think that choosing a goal weight depends entirely

on
how you feel at any given weight..

I feel happy and healthy and energetic at 125 lbs.. I'm 5'5 30 years

old..
some women my age and height would be happy and healthy at 120.. I'm

not..
can't maintain it.. some others are happy and healthy at 135.. I'm

not..
I
feel flabby and unhealthy at that weight..

My best friend is my height.. and her weight maintains around 155 lbs

(which
is over WW range).. and it's great for her ! she feels great and she

looks
great.. and all is well in the world (she's 1 years younger than me) I

have
another friend who's trying to maintain at 115... she ain't gonna.. but
hey..

I don't think you wanna go on statistics and measures and averages etc..
doesn't mean a thing.. it can give you a starting point.. but won't tell

you
what really matters... what matters is how you feel... so pick a

number..
see how you feel there.. if it's too hard to maintain.. choose a higher
number.. if it doesn't feel like you lost enough.. keep loosing (within
reason of course.. )you'll find your place..

I think Lee got it right.. not the easiest way.. but the most sane one I
would think..

This all being my opinion of course..

--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for our day

to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Katherine" wrote in message
...
I'm 5'9" female, and WW says I can weigh as much as 169 lbs. This
seems a bit overboard for a 5'9" female, although I realize some

women
would be comfortable at this weight. I am currently 190.5 (which is

a
size 16 at this height), only about 20 lbs from a potential goal
weight. Does anyone else here feel WW should split male/female
weights? 169 for a 5'9" male seems appropriate to me. I'm not

trying
to talk negatively about anyones goal weight (including my own!
but I am curious what others think of this.

Thanks in advance,
Shaynelle

Setting an appropriate target weight is not particularly easy, and

you've
gotten some good advice from the previous posters.

The appropriate weight for you depends on your goals, and how

motivated
you
are to achieve them. It also depends somewhat on your age. One way

of
looking at weight is by comparing your weight percentile to others of

your
height and gender. You don't state how old you are, so here are some
representative numbers, based on a 5' 9" American woman who weighs 169

lbs:

If you are 50, you would be in the 35th weight percentile (in other

words,
at 169 lbs, 65% of 5' 9", 50 year old American women would weigh more

than
you).

If you are 40, you would be in the 42nd weight percentile.

If you are 30, you would be in the 52nd weight percentile.

If you are 20, you would be in the 64th weight percentile.

I find that comparing weight, height, age and gender can help in

identifying
reasonable weight loss goals (in addition to the more commonly used

Body
Mass Index approach).

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary









  #44  
Old September 18th, 2004, 03:42 AM
Willow
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

That's the way M'lady !

--
Will~

196.2 / 133.4 / 137 lbs
89 / 60.5 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
thank you, I arrived at my answer by deciding it was more a matter of

health
and over all quality of life, Yes I want to look the best I can, but I

also
know me, I refuse to be hungry and I refuse to be miserable to look good,

so
by doing it my way I give myself permission to set a goal and then change

it
and not be a failure, Lee
Willow wrote in message
om...
See I don't agree.. I think that choosing a goal weight depends entirely

on
how you feel at any given weight..

I feel happy and healthy and energetic at 125 lbs.. I'm 5'5 30 years

old..
some women my age and height would be happy and healthy at 120.. I'm

not..
can't maintain it.. some others are happy and healthy at 135.. I'm

not..
I
feel flabby and unhealthy at that weight..

My best friend is my height.. and her weight maintains around 155 lbs

(which
is over WW range).. and it's great for her ! she feels great and she

looks
great.. and all is well in the world (she's 1 years younger than me) I

have
another friend who's trying to maintain at 115... she ain't gonna.. but
hey..

I don't think you wanna go on statistics and measures and averages etc..
doesn't mean a thing.. it can give you a starting point.. but won't tell

you
what really matters... what matters is how you feel... so pick a

number..
see how you feel there.. if it's too hard to maintain.. choose a higher
number.. if it doesn't feel like you lost enough.. keep loosing (within
reason of course.. )you'll find your place..

I think Lee got it right.. not the easiest way.. but the most sane one I
would think..

This all being my opinion of course..

--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for our day

to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Katherine" wrote in message
...
I'm 5'9" female, and WW says I can weigh as much as 169 lbs. This
seems a bit overboard for a 5'9" female, although I realize some

women
would be comfortable at this weight. I am currently 190.5 (which is

a
size 16 at this height), only about 20 lbs from a potential goal
weight. Does anyone else here feel WW should split male/female
weights? 169 for a 5'9" male seems appropriate to me. I'm not

trying
to talk negatively about anyones goal weight (including my own!
but I am curious what others think of this.

Thanks in advance,
Shaynelle

Setting an appropriate target weight is not particularly easy, and

you've
gotten some good advice from the previous posters.

The appropriate weight for you depends on your goals, and how

motivated
you
are to achieve them. It also depends somewhat on your age. One way

of
looking at weight is by comparing your weight percentile to others of

your
height and gender. You don't state how old you are, so here are some
representative numbers, based on a 5' 9" American woman who weighs 169

lbs:

If you are 50, you would be in the 35th weight percentile (in other

words,
at 169 lbs, 65% of 5' 9", 50 year old American women would weigh more

than
you).

If you are 40, you would be in the 42nd weight percentile.

If you are 30, you would be in the 52nd weight percentile.

If you are 20, you would be in the 64th weight percentile.

I find that comparing weight, height, age and gender can help in

identifying
reasonable weight loss goals (in addition to the more commonly used

Body
Mass Index approach).

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary









  #45  
Old September 20th, 2004, 10:22 AM
Miss Violette
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

wonderful, Lee
Willow wrote in message
om...
*big grin* I'm French Candian and 100% Cajun.. a buldozer wouldn't shut me
up ;op

--
Will~

196.2 / 133.4 / 137 lbs
89 / 60.5 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I think we are all saying the same thing just using different tools to

get
it said, French Canadian blunt???? Nah???? WG, DH is French Canadian,
first child adopted into the states from Canada through catholic

charities,
raised in Chicago, and blunt about covers it, Lee
Willow wrote in message
. com...
I hadn't weighted 125 lbs since I was about 12 years old.. which is

about
18
years ago now O-O I'm old !!!!! *grin*

My original goal weight was 140 lbs.. when I got there I still felt

fat..
so
kept loosing.. down to 118.. at which weight I was too thin.. and

couldn't
eat a pea without seeing it on the scale.. so I adjusted.. back and

forth
to
125 lbs..

I agree that we tend to put down unrealistic goals.. but I think it's

part
of the process to realize they ARE unrealistic and to adjust

yourself..
118lbs wasn't healthy (or good looking) for me.. I learned it..

Where I agree with you is that sometimes some members will put down
unrealistic goals, and instead of re-evaluating the goal they set

down..
they put themselves down.. as if they are a failure because they can't

look
like Britney Spears.. or something.. ( that's very frustrating..

But where I kind get stuck is the idea that an "overweight goal" is a

bad
goal..

NUH HUH ! I have a member who started at 485 lbs.. she made it down to

180..
wanted that to be her goal.. and a receptionist was like "you can't,

it's
out of the range"... ARG YES YOU CAN ! learn to live with the new

you..
and
when you're ready get back to loosing.. one day... you're much

healthier
at
180 than at 485 ! or at 200 than at 600.. or...

see what I mean ? This is a life journey.. not a race.. and it's a

journey
one makes for oneself.. not to please the

media/conventions/statistics..

I'm french Canadian, so I tend to be blunt, hope I haven't offended

you..
be
assured that I'm debating ideas.. not personalities or people worth or
whatever ;o)
--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for our

day
to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Willow" wrote in message
om...
See I don't agree.. I think that choosing a goal weight depends

entirely
on
how you feel at any given weight..

I feel happy and healthy and energetic at 125 lbs.. I'm 5'5 30

years
old..
some women my age and height would be happy and healthy at 120..

I'm
not..
can't maintain it.. some others are happy and healthy at 135..

I'm
not..
I
feel flabby and unhealthy at that weight..

My best friend is my height.. and her weight maintains around 155

lbs
(which
is over WW range).. and it's great for her ! she feels great and

she
looks
great.. and all is well in the world (she's 1 years younger than

me)
I
have
another friend who's trying to maintain at 115... she ain't

gonna..
but
hey..

I don't think you wanna go on statistics and measures and averages

etc..
doesn't mean a thing.. it can give you a starting point.. but

won't
tell
you
what really matters... what matters is how you feel... so pick a
number..
see how you feel there.. if it's too hard to maintain.. choose a

higher
number.. if it doesn't feel like you lost enough.. keep loosing

(within
reason of course.. )you'll find your place..

I think Lee got it right.. not the easiest way.. but the most sane

one
I
would think..

This all being my opinion of course..

I don't disagree with anything you've said. But, the original

question
was
about choosing a goal weight - in advance of achieving the goal.

You're most comfortable at 125, and that's good. But, what if you

hadn't
weighed 125 in 15+ years? How would you know whether 125, or 115,

or
135
was a reasonable and healthy goal? The original poster is currently

20
lbs
above her presumptive goal, so she is unlikely to know how she's

going
to
feel at that goal weight, or how hard (or easy) it may be to

maintain
at
that weight.

Many people (WW'ers excluded, presumably) choose weight goals based

on
misinformation (e.g., choosing a weight goal that is achievable, but

is
still overweight), or that is unrealistic (e.g., choosing a weight

goal
based on fashion model sizing). With just a small bit of analysis,

I
think
folks can be assisted in making reasonable choices for healthy

weight
goals - goals that are a reasonable target to aim for, at least.

As you say, each of us needs to re-evaluate our goals once we

achieve
them,
based on how we feel, how much energy we have, and how we like (or
dislike)
the way we look. On this we most definitely agree.

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary


--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for

our
day
to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Katherine" wrote in message
...
I'm 5'9" female, and WW says I can weigh as much as 169 lbs.

This
seems a bit overboard for a 5'9" female, although I realize

some
women
would be comfortable at this weight. I am currently 190.5

(which
is
a
size 16 at this height), only about 20 lbs from a potential

goal
weight. Does anyone else here feel WW should split

male/female
weights? 169 for a 5'9" male seems appropriate to me. I'm

not
trying
to talk negatively about anyones goal weight (including my

own!

but I am curious what others think of this.

Thanks in advance,
Shaynelle

Setting an appropriate target weight is not particularly easy,

and
you've
gotten some good advice from the previous posters.

The appropriate weight for you depends on your goals, and how
motivated
you
are to achieve them. It also depends somewhat on your age. One

way
of
looking at weight is by comparing your weight percentile to

others
of
your
height and gender. You don't state how old you are, so here are

some
representative numbers, based on a 5' 9" American woman who

weighs
169
lbs:

If you are 50, you would be in the 35th weight percentile (in

other
words,
at 169 lbs, 65% of 5' 9", 50 year old American women would weigh

more
than
you).

If you are 40, you would be in the 42nd weight percentile.

If you are 30, you would be in the 52nd weight percentile.

If you are 20, you would be in the 64th weight percentile.

I find that comparing weight, height, age and gender can help in
identifying
reasonable weight loss goals (in addition to the more commonly

used
Body
Mass Index approach).

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary















  #46  
Old September 20th, 2004, 10:22 AM
Miss Violette
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wonderful, Lee
Willow wrote in message
om...
*big grin* I'm French Candian and 100% Cajun.. a buldozer wouldn't shut me
up ;op

--
Will~

196.2 / 133.4 / 137 lbs
89 / 60.5 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I think we are all saying the same thing just using different tools to

get
it said, French Canadian blunt???? Nah???? WG, DH is French Canadian,
first child adopted into the states from Canada through catholic

charities,
raised in Chicago, and blunt about covers it, Lee
Willow wrote in message
. com...
I hadn't weighted 125 lbs since I was about 12 years old.. which is

about
18
years ago now O-O I'm old !!!!! *grin*

My original goal weight was 140 lbs.. when I got there I still felt

fat..
so
kept loosing.. down to 118.. at which weight I was too thin.. and

couldn't
eat a pea without seeing it on the scale.. so I adjusted.. back and

forth
to
125 lbs..

I agree that we tend to put down unrealistic goals.. but I think it's

part
of the process to realize they ARE unrealistic and to adjust

yourself..
118lbs wasn't healthy (or good looking) for me.. I learned it..

Where I agree with you is that sometimes some members will put down
unrealistic goals, and instead of re-evaluating the goal they set

down..
they put themselves down.. as if they are a failure because they can't

look
like Britney Spears.. or something.. ( that's very frustrating..

But where I kind get stuck is the idea that an "overweight goal" is a

bad
goal..

NUH HUH ! I have a member who started at 485 lbs.. she made it down to

180..
wanted that to be her goal.. and a receptionist was like "you can't,

it's
out of the range"... ARG YES YOU CAN ! learn to live with the new

you..
and
when you're ready get back to loosing.. one day... you're much

healthier
at
180 than at 485 ! or at 200 than at 600.. or...

see what I mean ? This is a life journey.. not a race.. and it's a

journey
one makes for oneself.. not to please the

media/conventions/statistics..

I'm french Canadian, so I tend to be blunt, hope I haven't offended

you..
be
assured that I'm debating ideas.. not personalities or people worth or
whatever ;o)
--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for our

day
to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Willow" wrote in message
om...
See I don't agree.. I think that choosing a goal weight depends

entirely
on
how you feel at any given weight..

I feel happy and healthy and energetic at 125 lbs.. I'm 5'5 30

years
old..
some women my age and height would be happy and healthy at 120..

I'm
not..
can't maintain it.. some others are happy and healthy at 135..

I'm
not..
I
feel flabby and unhealthy at that weight..

My best friend is my height.. and her weight maintains around 155

lbs
(which
is over WW range).. and it's great for her ! she feels great and

she
looks
great.. and all is well in the world (she's 1 years younger than

me)
I
have
another friend who's trying to maintain at 115... she ain't

gonna..
but
hey..

I don't think you wanna go on statistics and measures and averages

etc..
doesn't mean a thing.. it can give you a starting point.. but

won't
tell
you
what really matters... what matters is how you feel... so pick a
number..
see how you feel there.. if it's too hard to maintain.. choose a

higher
number.. if it doesn't feel like you lost enough.. keep loosing

(within
reason of course.. )you'll find your place..

I think Lee got it right.. not the easiest way.. but the most sane

one
I
would think..

This all being my opinion of course..

I don't disagree with anything you've said. But, the original

question
was
about choosing a goal weight - in advance of achieving the goal.

You're most comfortable at 125, and that's good. But, what if you

hadn't
weighed 125 in 15+ years? How would you know whether 125, or 115,

or
135
was a reasonable and healthy goal? The original poster is currently

20
lbs
above her presumptive goal, so she is unlikely to know how she's

going
to
feel at that goal weight, or how hard (or easy) it may be to

maintain
at
that weight.

Many people (WW'ers excluded, presumably) choose weight goals based

on
misinformation (e.g., choosing a weight goal that is achievable, but

is
still overweight), or that is unrealistic (e.g., choosing a weight

goal
based on fashion model sizing). With just a small bit of analysis,

I
think
folks can be assisted in making reasonable choices for healthy

weight
goals - goals that are a reasonable target to aim for, at least.

As you say, each of us needs to re-evaluate our goals once we

achieve
them,
based on how we feel, how much energy we have, and how we like (or
dislike)
the way we look. On this we most definitely agree.

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary


--
Will~

The Old Tabby sits, in peace, watching... waiting patiently for

our
day
to
come.
His purr will always warm my heart.
Belkira 1997 - 2004

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Katherine" wrote in message
...
I'm 5'9" female, and WW says I can weigh as much as 169 lbs.

This
seems a bit overboard for a 5'9" female, although I realize

some
women
would be comfortable at this weight. I am currently 190.5

(which
is
a
size 16 at this height), only about 20 lbs from a potential

goal
weight. Does anyone else here feel WW should split

male/female
weights? 169 for a 5'9" male seems appropriate to me. I'm

not
trying
to talk negatively about anyones goal weight (including my

own!

but I am curious what others think of this.

Thanks in advance,
Shaynelle

Setting an appropriate target weight is not particularly easy,

and
you've
gotten some good advice from the previous posters.

The appropriate weight for you depends on your goals, and how
motivated
you
are to achieve them. It also depends somewhat on your age. One

way
of
looking at weight is by comparing your weight percentile to

others
of
your
height and gender. You don't state how old you are, so here are

some
representative numbers, based on a 5' 9" American woman who

weighs
169
lbs:

If you are 50, you would be in the 35th weight percentile (in

other
words,
at 169 lbs, 65% of 5' 9", 50 year old American women would weigh

more
than
you).

If you are 40, you would be in the 42nd weight percentile.

If you are 30, you would be in the 52nd weight percentile.

If you are 20, you would be in the 64th weight percentile.

I find that comparing weight, height, age and gender can help in
identifying
reasonable weight loss goals (in addition to the more commonly

used
Body
Mass Index approach).

--
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary















 




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