WLL - Fred - Aug 4th

ok.. Minami (sushi) this weekend... Kan Toke (thai)... the following
weekend.. man.. I'll be eating a lot of seafood mmmmmmmmmmm

--
Will~

The problem with this world is stupidity, now I'm not saying there should
be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself?


"Fred" wrote in message
...
WW permits that type of eating - anything goes. I guess I just have
made a few decisions to not tempt myself too much. So, for instance,
I no longer make pasta at home - there never was portion control and
frankly, one cup is just not worth dealing with. I would rather have
potatoes or kasha.

I remember looking up Thai foods in the WW book. I was aghast - some
dishes that I liked were 10 points for a cup. Then there was the 4
pts for one cup of rice. And then there was the 2nd or 3rd dish and
who ate only one cup of any of those incredibly lucious foods!!! My
old style probably would have resulted in a 50 point meal. ONE MEAL.

Like I said, only a few times since starting WW. Maybe it is time
again (G)

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 15:55:54 GMT, "Fleur de Lys"
wrote:

It is.. but once a month (or more once every two month actually) I give
myself a meal that "doesn't count" and I eat whatever.. thai food.. or
fries.. or whatever.. I never eat too much.. but it's generally high pts
food..
;o) Works for me..

I know on the day or two after an undisciplined afternoon, I feel truly
famished. More so than I do if I eat a normal health amount consistently,
like I was doing for those months that I maintained. Somehow I got into this
"celebrating" mode, with the big day, followed by several days of low
points. That seems to be when I wandered off, and now I feel a very strong
urge to cut the points back enough to take that four or five pounds
difference off quickly.
That could be the entire problem. I ate judiciously today, when I felt
famished I fed it with low points rather high protein choices (low fat
cheese on celery, yogurt and fruit). I feel some better. I think I will try
deliberately to take this off at a slower rate, and just Eliminate the
"brownie" or "cake" days.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
news
Obviously, there is some "infighting" going on. Why or what drives
the food issues is very deep. Clearly, some of it is emotional but I
still think that there is a hormonal component (genetic or otherwise)
that also drives weight levels.

Feeling to "attached" to the new _US_ would seem very powerful but yet
there is something that makes keeping it, hard, very hard.

I also did not get any feedback on a note I put here concerning the
movie "Supersize Me." (where the subject ate McDonalds for a month and
gained weight and lost health) There was a takeoff of it done by a
reporter for the English Guardian (I think). But he interviewed the
Supersize Me "star" who noted in the interview that he now gains
weight much more easily than he did before blowing apart his
metabolism by eating McDonalds for a solid month. He commented that
all those "fat cells" now just waited to latch onto calories and pack
themselves silly. True or false? Science will one day find out. But
until then, we may be fighting a very hard battle - neverending - to
keep the weight off. Not impossible but constant work.

I can't wish you good luck. It takes more than luck - GOOD EFFORT.
Keep WORKING.....

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 12:40:25 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Well after my little awakening to what was up with me, I did very well
yesterday. I did not journal, but I did not eat my way through the hours
between 3 and 6 either, like I was. Back Down to 162.5 this morning, you
don't want to know what I saw there Wednesday morning. I am so grateful
to
you for setting the bar high this week so I can probably creep by on the
bottom in the morning. . I can still wear my clothing too, but I took a
look at the graph I keep of my weight? I was under 160 consistently from
November until mid May, and pretty much over ever since. This is going to
stop right now. I do not want to go back there. Here I am, first time in
my
life, with a body I really love. No Way I Am Giving It Back!!

I know on the day or two after an undisciplined afternoon, I feel truly
famished. More so than I do if I eat a normal health amount consistently,
like I was doing for those months that I maintained. Somehow I got into this
"celebrating" mode, with the big day, followed by several days of low
points. That seems to be when I wandered off, and now I feel a very strong
urge to cut the points back enough to take that four or five pounds
difference off quickly.
That could be the entire problem. I ate judiciously today, when I felt
famished I fed it with low points rather high protein choices (low fat
cheese on celery, yogurt and fruit). I feel some better. I think I will try
deliberately to take this off at a slower rate, and just Eliminate the
"brownie" or "cake" days.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
news
Obviously, there is some "infighting" going on. Why or what drives
the food issues is very deep. Clearly, some of it is emotional but I
still think that there is a hormonal component (genetic or otherwise)
that also drives weight levels.

Feeling to "attached" to the new _US_ would seem very powerful but yet
there is something that makes keeping it, hard, very hard.

I also did not get any feedback on a note I put here concerning the
movie "Supersize Me." (where the subject ate McDonalds for a month and
gained weight and lost health) There was a takeoff of it done by a
reporter for the English Guardian (I think). But he interviewed the
Supersize Me "star" who noted in the interview that he now gains
weight much more easily than he did before blowing apart his
metabolism by eating McDonalds for a solid month. He commented that
all those "fat cells" now just waited to latch onto calories and pack
themselves silly. True or false? Science will one day find out. But
until then, we may be fighting a very hard battle - neverending - to
keep the weight off. Not impossible but constant work.

I can't wish you good luck. It takes more than luck - GOOD EFFORT.
Keep WORKING.....

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 12:40:25 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Well after my little awakening to what was up with me, I did very well
yesterday. I did not journal, but I did not eat my way through the hours
between 3 and 6 either, like I was. Back Down to 162.5 this morning, you
don't want to know what I saw there Wednesday morning. I am so grateful
to
you for setting the bar high this week so I can probably creep by on the
bottom in the morning. . I can still wear my clothing too, but I took a
look at the graph I keep of my weight? I was under 160 consistently from
November until mid May, and pretty much over ever since. This is going to
stop right now. I do not want to go back there. Here I am, first time in
my
life, with a body I really love. No Way I Am Giving It Back!!

I got it now. Plenty of high quality points, lots of exercise, no big ole
sugar binge days. I am beginning to feel as if I am coming back to life.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
...
It is interesting that if we really give it some thought and critical
analysis, we can find our own threads.

I think that I've been allowing my heavy hiking pattern to allow me to
over do the junk. "I can eat this!" And just keep on eating THIS.

I can also probably look back and find that for the 1st 6 months or
maybe even longer, I had not even discovered Miss Meringues. And
then, even after, I was very disciplined in eating them - a half
serving or at most a serving. Now, it is just shovel them in. The
larger ones have been a particular problem.

Let's see if we can take control........

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:33:41 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I know on the day or two after an undisciplined afternoon, I feel truly
famished. More so than I do if I eat a normal health amount consistently,
like I was doing for those months that I maintained. Somehow I got into
this
"celebrating" mode, with the big day, followed by several days of low
points. That seems to be when I wandered off, and now I feel a very
strong
urge to cut the points back enough to take that four or five pounds
difference off quickly.
That could be the entire problem. I ate judiciously today, when I felt
famished I fed it with low points rather high protein choices (low fat
cheese on celery, yogurt and fruit). I feel some better. I think I will
try
deliberately to take this off at a slower rate, and just Eliminate the
"brownie" or "cake" days.

Add me to that bounce list. What is going on? Is it something in the air ... or
stars? I can't believe each of us are going through the same thing at the same
time! I really would like to see the scales say closer to 130, but like you I
haven't seen that number for well over a month now - heck, might even be two
months. I'm still hanging tightly below my goal - but not happy about it.

Joyce

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 01:22:33 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Fred this is just freaky, you gotta cut it out.
I also have to cut it out. I have been bouncing too, but keep seeing new
highs in the bouncing, and have not seen 159 since the middle of July or so.
Lets make a pact. What can we do here?

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
No hover this week. Merely DAMAGE!

Current: 165 lbs
GAIN: 2.2

I have not been exactly good. But I don't think I was that bad.
But.....

Actually, yesterday at home, it was 162.5 and today, I matched the
official one above. Been bouncing.

But this is the first WI over goal but still within their "roaming"
cushion. Time for some real discipline.

Fred
219.2/165.0/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

In message .net,
"Fleur de Lys" wrote:

It is.. but once a month (or more once every two month actually) I give
myself a meal that "doesn't count" and I eat whatever.. thai food.. or
fries.. or whatever.. I never eat too much.. but it's generally high pts
food..
;o) Works for me..

I do something similar. Every few weeks I have a points free day where
I eat whatever I like. It keeps me going.

--

Erin in NZ

125/95/75 kgs
275.3/209.2/165 lbs
mini goal 199.9 lbs

I haven't seen the movie but I've read some of the reviews and
listened to a couple of radio discussions on NPR about the film. I
found a web page at Tech Central Station that labels the filmmaker a
con and the movie a work of performance art.
http://www.techcentralstation.com/supersizecon.html

So I don't quite know what to make of the film or the filmmaker. One
of the NPR broadcasts I heard
http://www.npr.org/rundowns/segment.php?wfId=1917092 featured an
interview with Chazz Weaver who set out to challenge Morgan Spurlock's
experiment. Weaver lost 8 lbs by balancing his food intake with
exercise. He also has a website at http://www.truthinfitness.org/

I know that's not your argument or your question below. I also know
you don't dispute the importance or role of exercise. But for my own
ongoing effort to find what works for me, finding the balance between
self-control, self-discipline, and enjoyment of life's riches, is to
realize that exercise is key to good health.

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:54:09 -0700, Fred
wrote:

I also did not get any feedback on a note I put here concerning the
movie "Supersize Me." (where the subject ate McDonalds for a month and
gained weight and lost health) There was a takeoff of it done by a
reporter for the English Guardian (I think). But he interviewed the
Supersize Me "star" who noted in the interview that he now gains
weight much more easily than he did before blowing apart his
metabolism by eating McDonalds for a solid month. He commented that
all those "fat cells" now just waited to latch onto calories and pack
themselves silly. True or false? Science will one day find out. But
until then, we may be fighting a very hard battle - neverending - to
keep the weight off. Not impossible but constant work.

I haven't seen the movie but I've read some of the reviews and
listened to a couple of radio discussions on NPR about the film. I
found a web page at Tech Central Station that labels the filmmaker a
con and the movie a work of performance art.
http://www.techcentralstation.com/supersizecon.html

So I don't quite know what to make of the film or the filmmaker. One
of the NPR broadcasts I heard
http://www.npr.org/rundowns/segment.php?wfId=1917092 featured an
interview with Chazz Weaver who set out to challenge Morgan Spurlock's
experiment. Weaver lost 8 lbs by balancing his food intake with
exercise. He also has a website at http://www.truthinfitness.org/

I know that's not your argument or your question below. I also know
you don't dispute the importance or role of exercise. But for my own
ongoing effort to find what works for me, finding the balance between
self-control, self-discipline, and enjoyment of life's riches, is to
realize that exercise is key to good health.

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:54:09 -0700, Fred
wrote:

I also did not get any feedback on a note I put here concerning the
movie "Supersize Me." (where the subject ate McDonalds for a month and
gained weight and lost health) There was a takeoff of it done by a
reporter for the English Guardian (I think). But he interviewed the
Supersize Me "star" who noted in the interview that he now gains
weight much more easily than he did before blowing apart his
metabolism by eating McDonalds for a solid month. He commented that
all those "fat cells" now just waited to latch onto calories and pack
themselves silly. True or false? Science will one day find out. But
until then, we may be fighting a very hard battle - neverending - to
keep the weight off. Not impossible but constant work.