Heart Rate Question 1-7-04

Hi everyone,

Sorry, this is the third time I'm sending this, if you got it each time I
apologize but they aren't showing up for me. I seem to be having trouble
with OE.

I'm wondering--at Curves they have a board with target heart rate on it.
For my age my target rate is 22-25 while working out. This morning because
of the snow I did Sweatin to the Oldies 2 and when we did our heart rate for
the first time my rate was 28--higher than it would be at Curves. I skipped
the next song and brought my heart rate down to 22-25 and was able to keep
it there the rest of the tape. The question--should my heart rate have been
that high since I'm doing aerobics or do I need to "tone it down" when doing
a tape? Any help would be appreciated!!

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)

I'm not an expert in this field, so would be thrilled to see others jump in and
correct me if I'm wrong ... I am going totally from memory. In order to have the
best results in burning fat as well as conditioning, you need to be within a
specified target heart rate. If you go over that, I believe you no longer burn
fat - might be burning muscle but don't quote me on that. When I had that same
problem in the past, I was told to lower arms and try to tone the level down in
order to bring my heartrate back into the target range.

I sure hope someone else jumps in here. grin

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:58:59 GMT, "Janice Kennish" wrote:

Hi everyone,

Sorry, this is the third time I'm sending this, if you got it each time I
apologize but they aren't showing up for me. I seem to be having trouble
with OE.

I'm wondering--at Curves they have a board with target heart rate on it.
For my age my target rate is 22-25 while working out. This morning because
of the snow I did Sweatin to the Oldies 2 and when we did our heart rate for
the first time my rate was 28--higher than it would be at Curves. I skipped
the next song and brought my heart rate down to 22-25 and was able to keep
it there the rest of the tape. The question--should my heart rate have been
that high since I'm doing aerobics or do I need to "tone it down" when doing
a tape? Any help would be appreciated!!

This makes sense Joyce!! Now what I'm wondering is if there is a difference
between the target heart rate when you focus on weight training (Curves)
compared to aerobic exercise (RS tape)?

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)


"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I'm not an expert in this field, so would be thrilled to see others jump
in and
correct me if I'm wrong ... I am going totally from memory. In order to
have the
best results in burning fat as well as conditioning, you need to be within
a
specified target heart rate. If you go over that, I believe you no longer
burn
fat - might be burning muscle but don't quote me on that. When I had that
same
problem in the past, I was told to lower arms and try to tone the level
down in
order to bring my heartrate back into the target range.

I sure hope someone else jumps in here. grin

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:58:59 GMT, "Janice Kennish"
wrote:

Hi everyone,

Sorry, this is the third time I'm sending this, if you got it each time I
apologize but they aren't showing up for me. I seem to be having trouble
with OE.

I'm wondering--at Curves they have a board with target heart rate on it.
For my age my target rate is 22-25 while working out. This morning
because
of the snow I did Sweatin to the Oldies 2 and when we did our heart rate
for
the first time my rate was 28--higher than it would be at Curves. I
skipped
the next song and brought my heart rate down to 22-25 and was able to
keep
it there the rest of the tape. The question--should my heart rate have
been
that high since I'm doing aerobics or do I need to "tone it down" when
doing
a tape? Any help would be appreciated!!

That makes sense. I was told to raise my arms above my heart to raise the
heart rate. Maybe the movements of the Sweatin to the Oldies tape are such
that they raise the heart rate too high.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I'm not an expert in this field, so would be thrilled to see others jump
in and
correct me if I'm wrong ... I am going totally from memory. In order to
have the
best results in burning fat as well as conditioning, you need to be within
a
specified target heart rate. If you go over that, I believe you no longer
burn
fat - might be burning muscle but don't quote me on that. When I had that
same
problem in the past, I was told to lower arms and try to tone the level
down in
order to bring my heartrate back into the target range.

I sure hope someone else jumps in here. grin

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:58:59 GMT, "Janice Kennish"
wrote:

Hi everyone,

Sorry, this is the third time I'm sending this, if you got it each time I
apologize but they aren't showing up for me. I seem to be having trouble
with OE.

I'm wondering--at Curves they have a board with target heart rate on it.
For my age my target rate is 22-25 while working out. This morning
because
of the snow I did Sweatin to the Oldies 2 and when we did our heart rate
for
the first time my rate was 28--higher than it would be at Curves. I
skipped
the next song and brought my heart rate down to 22-25 and was able to
keep
it there the rest of the tape. The question--should my heart rate have
been
that high since I'm doing aerobics or do I need to "tone it down" when
doing
a tape? Any help would be appreciated!!

Again, I'm just making a very uneducated guess here g, but I don't think weight
lifting increases your heart rate significantly - not enough to be considered
aerobic exercise anyway. That's why many people have stated that we have to be
extremely careful when figuring and adding those activity points earned through
weight training. WT will build muscle and burn fat, but doesn't really increase
that heart rate.

I am not familiar with curves but from what others have stated, I'm going to guess
that they are going for a combination of aerobics and weights. If it was strictly
weight focused, I don't see the need for worrying about heart rate.

I found this by doing a search on google - many other sites have the same
*estimating* formula. None say anything about heartrates and weight training
though - all refer to aerobics.
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Dumm...le/id-554.html

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:12:49 GMT, "Janice Kennish" wrote:

This makes sense Joyce!! Now what I'm wondering is if there is a difference
between the target heart rate when you focus on weight training (Curves)
compared to aerobic exercise (RS tape)?

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I'm not an expert in this field, so would be thrilled to see others jump
in and
correct me if I'm wrong ... I am going totally from memory. In order to
have the
best results in burning fat as well as conditioning, you need to be within
a
specified target heart rate. If you go over that, I believe you no longer
burn
fat - might be burning muscle but don't quote me on that. When I had that
same
problem in the past, I was told to lower arms and try to tone the level
down in
order to bring my heartrate back into the target range.

I sure hope someone else jumps in here. grin

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:58:59 GMT, "Janice Kennish"
wrote:

Hi everyone,

Sorry, this is the third time I'm sending this, if you got it each time I
apologize but they aren't showing up for me. I seem to be having trouble
with OE.

I'm wondering--at Curves they have a board with target heart rate on it.
For my age my target rate is 22-25 while working out. This morning
because
of the snow I did Sweatin to the Oldies 2 and when we did our heart rate
for
the first time my rate was 28--higher than it would be at Curves. I
skipped
the next song and brought my heart rate down to 22-25 and was able to
keep
it there the rest of the tape. The question--should my heart rate have
been
that high since I'm doing aerobics or do I need to "tone it down" when
doing
a tape? Any help would be appreciated!!

Curves is a combination of aerobics and weight training and they do want you
to raise your heart rate although they want us to work hard enough that
working on the machines raises it more than the platforms. I'm going to
assume that the target rate at Curves is what I'm shooting for and tone it
down with the tapes!!!

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)


"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Again, I'm just making a very uneducated guess here g, but I don't think
weight
lifting increases your heart rate significantly - not enough to be
considered
aerobic exercise anyway. That's why many people have stated that we have
to be
extremely careful when figuring and adding those activity points earned
through
weight training. WT will build muscle and burn fat, but doesn't really
increase
that heart rate.

I am not familiar with curves but from what others have stated, I'm going
to guess
that they are going for a combination of aerobics and weights. If it was
strictly
weight focused, I don't see the need for worrying about heart rate.

I found this by doing a search on google - many other sites have the same
*estimating* formula. None say anything about heartrates and weight
training
though - all refer to aerobics.
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Dumm...le/id-554.html

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:12:49 GMT, "Janice Kennish"
wrote:

This makes sense Joyce!! Now what I'm wondering is if there is a
difference
between the target heart rate when you focus on weight training (Curves)
compared to aerobic exercise (RS tape)?

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I'm not an expert in this field, so would be thrilled to see others
jump
in and
correct me if I'm wrong ... I am going totally from memory. In order
to
have the
best results in burning fat as well as conditioning, you need to be
within
a
specified target heart rate. If you go over that, I believe you no
longer
burn
fat - might be burning muscle but don't quote me on that. When I had
that
same
problem in the past, I was told to lower arms and try to tone the level
down in
order to bring my heartrate back into the target range.

I sure hope someone else jumps in here. grin

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:58:59 GMT, "Janice Kennish"

wrote:

Hi everyone,

Sorry, this is the third time I'm sending this, if you got it each
time I
apologize but they aren't showing up for me. I seem to be having
trouble
with OE.

I'm wondering--at Curves they have a board with target heart rate on
it.
For my age my target rate is 22-25 while working out. This morning
because
of the snow I did Sweatin to the Oldies 2 and when we did our heart
rate
for
the first time my rate was 28--higher than it would be at Curves. I
skipped
the next song and brought my heart rate down to 22-25 and was able to
keep
it there the rest of the tape. The question--should my heart rate
have
been
that high since I'm doing aerobics or do I need to "tone it down" when
doing
a tape? Any help would be appreciated!!

Again, I'm going to make some assumptions here. Curves suggests a heart rate of
22-25 ... I assume that is a six-second reading, calculating out to 132-150 beats
per minute. From the little bit of what I found on google, that appears to be a
pretty safe assumption G for aerobic workouts. So am also assuming this is what
curves is aiming for ... aerobic workout efforts. Considering that, I would also
say tone down what you are doing with the tapes at home, you are probably out of
the aerobic stage (I think they call higher *anaerboic stage*). I found this
website that explained what each *zone* accomplished a bit better:
http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/hrm1.htm

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 00:11:57 GMT, "Janice Kennish" wrote:

Curves is a combination of aerobics and weight training and they do want you
to raise your heart rate although they want us to work hard enough that
working on the machines raises it more than the platforms. I'm going to
assume that the target rate at Curves is what I'm shooting for and tone it
down with the tapes!!!

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Again, I'm just making a very uneducated guess here g, but I don't think
weight
lifting increases your heart rate significantly - not enough to be
considered
aerobic exercise anyway. That's why many people have stated that we have
to be
extremely careful when figuring and adding those activity points earned
through
weight training. WT will build muscle and burn fat, but doesn't really
increase
that heart rate.

I am not familiar with curves but from what others have stated, I'm going
to guess
that they are going for a combination of aerobics and weights. If it was
strictly
weight focused, I don't see the need for worrying about heart rate.

I found this by doing a search on google - many other sites have the same
*estimating* formula. None say anything about heartrates and weight
training
though - all refer to aerobics.
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Dumm...le/id-554.html

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:12:49 GMT, "Janice Kennish"
wrote:

This makes sense Joyce!! Now what I'm wondering is if there is a
difference
between the target heart rate when you focus on weight training (Curves)
compared to aerobic exercise (RS tape)?

--
Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I'm not an expert in this field, so would be thrilled to see others
jump
in and
correct me if I'm wrong ... I am going totally from memory. In order
to
have the
best results in burning fat as well as conditioning, you need to be
within
a
specified target heart rate. If you go over that, I believe you no
longer
burn
fat - might be burning muscle but don't quote me on that. When I had
that
same
problem in the past, I was told to lower arms and try to tone the level
down in
order to bring my heartrate back into the target range.

I sure hope someone else jumps in here. grin

Joyce

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:58:59 GMT, "Janice Kennish"

wrote:

Hi everyone,

Sorry, this is the third time I'm sending this, if you got it each
time I
apologize but they aren't showing up for me. I seem to be having
trouble
with OE.

I'm wondering--at Curves they have a board with target heart rate on
it.
For my age my target rate is 22-25 while working out. This morning
because
of the snow I did Sweatin to the Oldies 2 and when we did our heart
rate
for
the first time my rate was 28--higher than it would be at Curves. I
skipped
the next song and brought my heart rate down to 22-25 and was able to
keep
it there the rest of the tape. The question--should my heart rate
have
been
that high since I'm doing aerobics or do I need to "tone it down" when
doing
a tape? Any help would be appreciated!!

Joyce wrote in
:

Again, I'm going to make some assumptions here. Curves suggests a
heart rate of 22-25 ... I assume that is a six-second reading,
calculating out to 132-150 beats per minute. From the little bit of
what I found on google, that appears to be a pretty safe assumption
G for aerobic workouts. So am also assuming this is what curves is
aiming for ... aerobic workout efforts. Considering that, I would
also say tone down what you are doing with the tapes at home, you are
probably out of the aerobic stage (I think they call higher *anaerboic
stage*). I found this website that explained what each *zone*
accomplished a bit better: http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/hrm1.htm

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 00:11:57 GMT, "Janice Kennish"
wrote:

OK quick math primer, 6 seconds is 1/10th of a minute so a rat of 22-25
beats per 6 seconds is 220-250 per minute, definitely too high. I believe
the 22-25 is for 10 seconds.

--
Started Weight Watchers together February 2002:
Chris
332.4/184.6/185 Lifetime since 12/13/03
Pat
198.4/174/155
2002 combined loss 139
2003 combined loss 33.2
Total combined 172.2 lbs

"Chris" wrote in message
45...
Joyce wrote in
:

Again, I'm going to make some assumptions here. Curves suggests a
heart rate of 22-25 ... I assume that is a six-second reading,
calculating out to 132-150 beats per minute. From the little bit of
what I found on google, that appears to be a pretty safe assumption
G for aerobic workouts. So am also assuming this is what curves is
aiming for ... aerobic workout efforts. Considering that, I would
also say tone down what you are doing with the tapes at home, you are
probably out of the aerobic stage (I think they call higher *anaerboic
stage*). I found this website that explained what each *zone*
accomplished a bit better: http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/hrm1.htm

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 00:11:57 GMT, "Janice Kennish"
wrote:

OK quick math primer, 6 seconds is 1/10th of a minute so a rat of 22-25
beats per 6 seconds is 220-250 per minute, definitely too high. I believe
the 22-25 is for 10 seconds.

Good catch Chris. At Curves we do 10 second counts.

On 08 Jan 2004 13:11:37 GMT, Chris wrote:

Joyce wrote in
:

Again, I'm going to make some assumptions here. Curves suggests a
heart rate of 22-25 ... I assume that is a six-second reading,
calculating out to 132-150 beats per minute. From the little bit of
what I found on google, that appears to be a pretty safe assumption
G for aerobic workouts. So am also assuming this is what curves is
aiming for ... aerobic workout efforts. Considering that, I would
also say tone down what you are doing with the tapes at home, you are
probably out of the aerobic stage (I think they call higher *anaerboic
stage*). I found this website that explained what each *zone*
accomplished a bit better: http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/hrm1.htm

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 00:11:57 GMT, "Janice Kennish"
wrote:

OK quick math primer, 6 seconds is 1/10th of a minute so a rat of 22-25
beats per 6 seconds is 220-250 per minute, definitely too high. I believe
the 22-25 is for 10 seconds.

hehehe - thanks Chris. I think that's what I meant, 10 seconds. I multiplied the
figures on the calculator by 6, which would be taking 10 second readings. Thanks
for reposting correctly!

Joyce