WLL - Fred - July 28th

Hmmmmmm, I'm not 100% positive but I think our grocery store did have a few
packages of the cherry ones last week. They could have been old stock though.
BUT we also did have the orange cream variety. I bought a package but haven't
tried them yet. Hub did, said they were very good. Yes, too many short lived
varieties. Is it a marketing ploy to keep us always checking and rechecking -
that urge to have to try something new? I would assume that it would have to be
somewhat costly for the company to continually change, as well as confusing. I
wish they would keep the s'more variety as permanent - could change the
mint,strawberry or peanut butter to slimited edition. At least, that's how my
taste preferences go. g

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:38:35 -0700, Fred wrote:

I checked for cherry today while shopping where I purchased the first
batch. NONE.

I find it interesting that they have all of these short-lived flavors.
It has to be costly, no, to tool up for another flavor?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:36:11 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Mmmmmmmmm, sounds good ... kind of like the old dreamsicles maybe? I'll keep my
eyes open, although I STILL have half a package of the cherry ones in the freezer.
I tend to forget they are there (as I scoop out other icecream). sigh

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:36:55 GMT, "Prairie Roots" wrote:

Slow DOWN over those bumps.

Not to make things worse but I discovered the latest "Slimited
Edition" Skinny Cow sandwich flavor: Orange Creme. It's orange and
vanilla swirled together with vanilla wafers. Haven't opened the
package yet so I can't vouch for the taste. Maybe orange isn't your
thing?


"Fred" wrote in message
...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Hmmmmmm, I'm not 100% positive but I think our grocery store did have a few
packages of the cherry ones last week. They could have been old stock though.
BUT we also did have the orange cream variety. I bought a package but haven't
tried them yet. Hub did, said they were very good. Yes, too many short lived
varieties. Is it a marketing ploy to keep us always checking and rechecking -
that urge to have to try something new? I would assume that it would have to be
somewhat costly for the company to continually change, as well as confusing. I
wish they would keep the s'more variety as permanent - could change the
mint,strawberry or peanut butter to slimited edition. At least, that's how my
taste preferences go. g

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:38:35 -0700, Fred wrote:

I checked for cherry today while shopping where I purchased the first
batch. NONE.

I find it interesting that they have all of these short-lived flavors.
It has to be costly, no, to tool up for another flavor?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:36:11 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Mmmmmmmmm, sounds good ... kind of like the old dreamsicles maybe? I'll keep my
eyes open, although I STILL have half a package of the cherry ones in the freezer.
I tend to forget they are there (as I scoop out other icecream). sigh

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:36:55 GMT, "Prairie Roots" wrote:

Slow DOWN over those bumps.

Not to make things worse but I discovered the latest "Slimited
Edition" Skinny Cow sandwich flavor: Orange Creme. It's orange and
vanilla swirled together with vanilla wafers. Haven't opened the
package yet so I can't vouch for the taste. Maybe orange isn't your
thing?


"Fred" wrote in message
...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Hmmmmmm, I'm not 100% positive but I think our grocery store did have a few
packages of the cherry ones last week. They could have been old stock though.
BUT we also did have the orange cream variety. I bought a package but haven't
tried them yet. Hub did, said they were very good. Yes, too many short lived
varieties. Is it a marketing ploy to keep us always checking and rechecking -
that urge to have to try something new? I would assume that it would have to be
somewhat costly for the company to continually change, as well as confusing. I
wish they would keep the s'more variety as permanent - could change the
mint,strawberry or peanut butter to slimited edition. At least, that's how my
taste preferences go. g

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:38:35 -0700, Fred wrote:

I checked for cherry today while shopping where I purchased the first
batch. NONE.

I find it interesting that they have all of these short-lived flavors.
It has to be costly, no, to tool up for another flavor?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:36:11 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Mmmmmmmmm, sounds good ... kind of like the old dreamsicles maybe? I'll keep my
eyes open, although I STILL have half a package of the cherry ones in the freezer.
I tend to forget they are there (as I scoop out other icecream). sigh

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:36:55 GMT, "Prairie Roots" wrote:

Slow DOWN over those bumps.

Not to make things worse but I discovered the latest "Slimited
Edition" Skinny Cow sandwich flavor: Orange Creme. It's orange and
vanilla swirled together with vanilla wafers. Haven't opened the
package yet so I can't vouch for the taste. Maybe orange isn't your
thing?


"Fred" wrote in message
...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Hmmmmmmm, interesting! I wonder if they will continue with the same marketing
ploy as far as many different varieties that come and go. Silhouette was owned by
Edy's, another big company. I'm surprised they sold, would have thought it was a
big money maker.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:36:17 GMT, Prairie Roots wrote:

Earlier this week, Dreyer's of Oakland CA acquired Silhouette, maker of
Skinny Cow. Wonder that means about the future of the product.

Fred wrote:

I checked for cherry today while shopping where I purchased the first
batch. NONE.

I find it interesting that they have all of these short-lived flavors.
It has to be costly, no, to tool up for another flavor?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:36:11 -0500, Joyce wrote:


Mmmmmmmmm, sounds good ... kind of like the old dreamsicles maybe? I'll keep my
eyes open, although I STILL have half a package of the cherry ones in the freezer.
I tend to forget they are there (as I scoop out other icecream). sigh

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:36:55 GMT, "Prairie Roots" wrote:


Slow DOWN over those bumps.

Not to make things worse but I discovered the latest "Slimited
Edition" Skinny Cow sandwich flavor: Orange Creme. It's orange and
vanilla swirled together with vanilla wafers. Haven't opened the
package yet so I can't vouch for the taste. Maybe orange isn't your
thing?


"Fred" wrote in message
m...

A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Hmmmmmmm, interesting! I wonder if they will continue with the same marketing
ploy as far as many different varieties that come and go. Silhouette was owned by
Edy's, another big company. I'm surprised they sold, would have thought it was a
big money maker.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:36:17 GMT, Prairie Roots wrote:

Earlier this week, Dreyer's of Oakland CA acquired Silhouette, maker of
Skinny Cow. Wonder that means about the future of the product.

Fred wrote:

I checked for cherry today while shopping where I purchased the first
batch. NONE.

I find it interesting that they have all of these short-lived flavors.
It has to be costly, no, to tool up for another flavor?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:36:11 -0500, Joyce wrote:


Mmmmmmmmm, sounds good ... kind of like the old dreamsicles maybe? I'll keep my
eyes open, although I STILL have half a package of the cherry ones in the freezer.
I tend to forget they are there (as I scoop out other icecream). sigh

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:36:55 GMT, "Prairie Roots" wrote:


Slow DOWN over those bumps.

Not to make things worse but I discovered the latest "Slimited
Edition" Skinny Cow sandwich flavor: Orange Creme. It's orange and
vanilla swirled together with vanilla wafers. Haven't opened the
package yet so I can't vouch for the taste. Maybe orange isn't your
thing?


"Fred" wrote in message
m...

A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

I still haven't tried them. If it's the same cookie type they used in the
strawberry, then I probably won't like them. It was too crispy for me. Or not
enough chocolate. g

Joyce

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:46:28 -0700, Fred wrote:

Well, somewhere my secretary found the orange ones today. They were
our afternoon snack. Not bad but I could probably skip them.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:09:17 -0700, Fred
wrote:

They can dump strawberry, not that I've even tried it. I think
retooling the flavors has to cost a bit. But then the price some
stores charge for them, they can afford to retool daily.

Haven't yet seen the orange ones

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:22:53 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Hmmmmmm, I'm not 100% positive but I think our grocery store did have a few
packages of the cherry ones last week. They could have been old stock though.
BUT we also did have the orange cream variety. I bought a package but haven't
tried them yet. Hub did, said they were very good. Yes, too many short lived
varieties. Is it a marketing ploy to keep us always checking and rechecking -
that urge to have to try something new? I would assume that it would have to be
somewhat costly for the company to continually change, as well as confusing. I
wish they would keep the s'more variety as permanent - could change the
mint,strawberry or peanut butter to slimited edition. At least, that's how my
taste preferences go. g

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:38:35 -0700, Fred wrote:

I checked for cherry today while shopping where I purchased the first
batch. NONE.

I find it interesting that they have all of these short-lived flavors.
It has to be costly, no, to tool up for another flavor?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:36:11 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Mmmmmmmmm, sounds good ... kind of like the old dreamsicles maybe? I'll keep my
eyes open, although I STILL have half a package of the cherry ones in the freezer.
I tend to forget they are there (as I scoop out other icecream). sigh

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:36:55 GMT, "Prairie Roots" wrote:

Slow DOWN over those bumps.

Not to make things worse but I discovered the latest "Slimited
Edition" Skinny Cow sandwich flavor: Orange Creme. It's orange and
vanilla swirled together with vanilla wafers. Haven't opened the
package yet so I can't vouch for the taste. Maybe orange isn't your
thing?


"Fred" wrote in message
news:t40gg0t862dui7289fcd2pnejlmp59sbfj@4ax. com...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

I still haven't tried them. If it's the same cookie type they used in the
strawberry, then I probably won't like them. It was too crispy for me. Or not
enough chocolate. g

Joyce

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:46:28 -0700, Fred wrote:

Well, somewhere my secretary found the orange ones today. They were
our afternoon snack. Not bad but I could probably skip them.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:09:17 -0700, Fred
wrote:

They can dump strawberry, not that I've even tried it. I think
retooling the flavors has to cost a bit. But then the price some
stores charge for them, they can afford to retool daily.

Haven't yet seen the orange ones

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:22:53 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Hmmmmmm, I'm not 100% positive but I think our grocery store did have a few
packages of the cherry ones last week. They could have been old stock though.
BUT we also did have the orange cream variety. I bought a package but haven't
tried them yet. Hub did, said they were very good. Yes, too many short lived
varieties. Is it a marketing ploy to keep us always checking and rechecking -
that urge to have to try something new? I would assume that it would have to be
somewhat costly for the company to continually change, as well as confusing. I
wish they would keep the s'more variety as permanent - could change the
mint,strawberry or peanut butter to slimited edition. At least, that's how my
taste preferences go. g

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:38:35 -0700, Fred wrote:

I checked for cherry today while shopping where I purchased the first
batch. NONE.

I find it interesting that they have all of these short-lived flavors.
It has to be costly, no, to tool up for another flavor?

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:36:11 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Mmmmmmmmm, sounds good ... kind of like the old dreamsicles maybe? I'll keep my
eyes open, although I STILL have half a package of the cherry ones in the freezer.
I tend to forget they are there (as I scoop out other icecream). sigh

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:36:55 GMT, "Prairie Roots" wrote:

Slow DOWN over those bumps.

Not to make things worse but I discovered the latest "Slimited
Edition" Skinny Cow sandwich flavor: Orange Creme. It's orange and
vanilla swirled together with vanilla wafers. Haven't opened the
package yet so I can't vouch for the taste. Maybe orange isn't your
thing?


"Fred" wrote in message
news:t40gg0t862dui7289fcd2pnejlmp59sbfj@4ax. com...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

I was thinking the same thing, in regards to caloric content of the real potato
chips vs. the pita chips. I haven't had a bag of potato chips in the house for a
long time, other than the baked ones which are much lower in fat content. AHA! I
found one lonely individual bag of REAL potato chips (must have bought them for
one of the kids lunches) ... 150 calories/10g fat/1g fiber ... the baked cheddar
chips that I like are 120cal/3g fat/2g fiber ... what I have in the dietpower
program for the pita chips are 130cal/5g fat/0g fiber. So there we have it! Not
exactly wonderfully healthy, but better than the old potato chips. For some
reason I was also able to eat just one or two pieces of the pita chips, as opposed
to an entire bag of the potato chips.

I caved once again to the bag of baked chips that were calling my name. For some
reason lately, I seem to be craving salt bigtime. Not like I'm holding enough
water as it is. g

Joyce

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:04:51 -0700, Fred wrote:

Actually, nothing is permanent, permanently!

You know, real, old fashioned potato chips are not that much off the
120 calories mark either. I think it is just their fat which makes
them, so point unfriendly. Nah, until I take some long car camping
trip or such - no salt impregnated chips are permitted!!! (G)

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:17:21 -0500, Joyce wrote:

I don't think the nutrtional info was all that bad - low fat at least, calories
maybe 120 or so for an ounce (which was 7 or 8 large chips). The problem was in
the size of the container, and the fact that no one else in this house was going
to help me eat them. The container is now empty, finished, gone, vanquished from
the house. I have NOT told my eldest this, for fear she will replace it. g

The white peaches were very good, never had them before ... but my favorite is
still the same old standard version. I loaded up on peaches and nectarines this
week, and hub brought in a huge cantaloupe from the farm stand. YUM! I've felt
in better control this past week, scales aren't budging quickly but they are
moving bit by bit, damage isn't too bad either. And clothes still fit well. Whew!
Nothing is permanent, unless I allow it to be ... right?

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:35:49 -0700, Fred wrote:

I'd like to be sidetracked by a white peach or even an ol' fashioned
yellow one (G) I did get a huge dose of blueberries at Costco.

I just saw pita chips yesterday. I decided that I did not need to
discover another snack food. I walked right past without checking out
their nutritional info.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:39:25 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Oh dear. You certainly have a tough time with those meringues. But there are
definitely worse things you could binge on ... like the HUGE bucket of garlic pita
chips my daughter bought for me, that I keep reaching into (I swear the dang
things are reproducing). I got a bad case of the munchies a few minutes ago,
headed for the bucket of meringues that has been sitting on my counter for what
seems like forever. I got sidetracked by a white peach. g

Joyce

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:12:19 -0700, Fred wrote:

Not so great, greatly describes it.

I will work on getting it back down. As I walked to my meeting (from
the parking lot), I did wonder about weekly attendance and the whole
schtick. And I once again realized that this is for real and for long
term and for (I glanced down) my stomach. It is not easy and some
days are trying.

Hard lately? I might attribute it to work. I finished off a triple
chocolate Miss Meringue in two days!!!! Darn that Trader Joes! (G)

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:25:52 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Well ow, that was not so great, but I am sure you will drop it back where it
belongs.
I am up a bit right now too. I don't know why it is so hard lately.

I'm telling ya, we are having some really bizarre weather here. Yesterday I had
to relent and turn the air back on, the house was really hot (was 88 upstairs) and
humid. I woke this morning, puttered about the house for a bit then ran out to
the mailbox ... dang was it cold! Temps dropped to mid 60's at some point, had to
change back into jeans and a sweatshirt. It is currently 58F/85% humidity ... and
I see where my brother is located it is registering 96% humidity ... guess what's
coming our way. g So the temps are cooler, but the air is certainly moist. g
Too cool to run the air so windows are opened again, which results in more
humidity in the house, more in my limbs I fear. According to the forecast, we
are to have at least 3 more days of this.

And I do expect MY weight to be up tomorrow ... sodium, sodium and more sodium for
dinner this evening. sigh

Joyce

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:06:36 -0700, Fred wrote:

Well, I guess yesterday's 90F here was somewhat responsible along with
the sushi (soy sauce) and teriaki (soy sauce) for tight sneakers and
sausage fingers most of last night!!! Hopefully, it will not be
retained until Weds WI.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:19:32 -0500, Joyce wrote:

I know that my eating hasn't been wonderful by any stretch of the imagination, but
I'm also thinking water retention is playing a bit of havoc ... too much sodium
and maybe too much regional humidity - even though the days are a bit cooler this
week. Rings are tight, shoes are snug (which is a good indicator for me) and boy
can that scale jump unreasonably up. More water, I definitely need to drink more
water.

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:37:09 -0700, Fred wrote:

Oh, this reminds me - I don't think yesterday was that bad as I was
down 1.5 on the home scale this morning. Exercise WATER! (G)

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:34:29 -0500, Joyce wrote:

If either of you figure out why it's been tougher lately, please let me know! I'm
not horribly off track, but it's definitely been more difficult these days.
Weight up this morning, am guessing water retention as when I slipped into my
shoes to head out the door this morning (my comfy moccasins) I noticed they really
were snug and more difficult to get into than usual. Ahhhh, swollen feet/hands is
generally a good tip off to me that there is something else going on. And yes,
just now I realized my rings are tighter than norm also. sigh But still ...

By the way ... I tried to email you Les, with a goofy question/request for my
daughter - but I received a notification that after several days the email was
cancelled (don't remember the technical reason). I removed the *not* from you
email address ... is there something else I should have done? You can email me
personally at jaw179atearthlinkdotnet

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:25:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well ow, that was not so great, but I am sure you will drop it back where it
belongs.
I am up a bit right now too. I don't know why it is so hard lately.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
om...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

I'm telling ya, we are having some really bizarre weather here. Yesterday I had
to relent and turn the air back on, the house was really hot (was 88 upstairs) and
humid. I woke this morning, puttered about the house for a bit then ran out to
the mailbox ... dang was it cold! Temps dropped to mid 60's at some point, had to
change back into jeans and a sweatshirt. It is currently 58F/85% humidity ... and
I see where my brother is located it is registering 96% humidity ... guess what's
coming our way. g So the temps are cooler, but the air is certainly moist. g
Too cool to run the air so windows are opened again, which results in more
humidity in the house, more in my limbs I fear. According to the forecast, we
are to have at least 3 more days of this.

And I do expect MY weight to be up tomorrow ... sodium, sodium and more sodium for
dinner this evening. sigh

Joyce

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:06:36 -0700, Fred wrote:

Well, I guess yesterday's 90F here was somewhat responsible along with
the sushi (soy sauce) and teriaki (soy sauce) for tight sneakers and
sausage fingers most of last night!!! Hopefully, it will not be
retained until Weds WI.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:19:32 -0500, Joyce wrote:

I know that my eating hasn't been wonderful by any stretch of the imagination, but
I'm also thinking water retention is playing a bit of havoc ... too much sodium
and maybe too much regional humidity - even though the days are a bit cooler this
week. Rings are tight, shoes are snug (which is a good indicator for me) and boy
can that scale jump unreasonably up. More water, I definitely need to drink more
water.

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:37:09 -0700, Fred wrote:

Oh, this reminds me - I don't think yesterday was that bad as I was
down 1.5 on the home scale this morning. Exercise WATER! (G)

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:34:29 -0500, Joyce wrote:

If either of you figure out why it's been tougher lately, please let me know! I'm
not horribly off track, but it's definitely been more difficult these days.
Weight up this morning, am guessing water retention as when I slipped into my
shoes to head out the door this morning (my comfy moccasins) I noticed they really
were snug and more difficult to get into than usual. Ahhhh, swollen feet/hands is
generally a good tip off to me that there is something else going on. And yes,
just now I realized my rings are tighter than norm also. sigh But still ...

By the way ... I tried to email you Les, with a goofy question/request for my
daughter - but I received a notification that after several days the email was
cancelled (don't remember the technical reason). I removed the *not* from you
email address ... is there something else I should have done? You can email me
personally at jaw179atearthlinkdotnet

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:25:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well ow, that was not so great, but I am sure you will drop it back where it
belongs.
I am up a bit right now too. I don't know why it is so hard lately.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
om...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002