WLL - Fred - July 28th

Hi, Lesanne, Nice recovery.
--
Take Care
Catherine
joined 5/20/98
Lifetime 6/2/99
154/134.4/136
Personal goal 126
"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
Fred, I feel so much better today, after only two days of cutting out all
sugar stuff until my "designated treat time" after dinner, and limiting that
to 3 or 4 points only. That and paying attention to getting in more dairy,
mostly what I have done is use yogurt and fruit for snacks. I had one of
"those days" on Thursday, and was 162 Friday morning. 161 this morning after
a nice filling and balanced 30 point day yesterday.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Definitely track and let us/me know. The last few weeks, thinking
that I was not hungry and therefore could cut back, I was eating half
a sweetpotato rather than an entire one. Well, I lost and maintained
well on a full one for more than a year, so cutting back probably made
no sense other than the idea that "at this time, I don't want a full
potato" but maybe eating it is a good idea. It certainly is healthier
than eating sugary, chewy candies.

I really am tearing through too much sugary candy. It can't be good
for my teeth, never mind my blood sugar level or waistline! (G)

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:27:26 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

That is exactly what I was trying to say! The fact that I lose weight
very
quickly when I journal and eat the 30 points the program allows, is
perhaps
telling me that I would be somewhat more comfortable eating say 35, and
then
might stop with the overfull / starving situation. I ate well today (30),
but am quite hungry actually. When I have one of those days (maybe 50 -
60
point days) I usually immediately go up to 161 or 162. TWO days eating
30
points, and I drop back to 160. Then if I make it three, I am back to
159.
Then I have another one of THOSE days. I think tomorrow I am going to
plan a
35 point day. Then a 30. Then a planned 35. And see what that does after
a
week or so.

Hi, Lesanne, Nice recovery.
--
Take Care
Catherine
joined 5/20/98
Lifetime 6/2/99
154/134.4/136
Personal goal 126
"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
Fred, I feel so much better today, after only two days of cutting out all
sugar stuff until my "designated treat time" after dinner, and limiting that
to 3 or 4 points only. That and paying attention to getting in more dairy,
mostly what I have done is use yogurt and fruit for snacks. I had one of
"those days" on Thursday, and was 162 Friday morning. 161 this morning after
a nice filling and balanced 30 point day yesterday.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Definitely track and let us/me know. The last few weeks, thinking
that I was not hungry and therefore could cut back, I was eating half
a sweetpotato rather than an entire one. Well, I lost and maintained
well on a full one for more than a year, so cutting back probably made
no sense other than the idea that "at this time, I don't want a full
potato" but maybe eating it is a good idea. It certainly is healthier
than eating sugary, chewy candies.

I really am tearing through too much sugary candy. It can't be good
for my teeth, never mind my blood sugar level or waistline! (G)

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:27:26 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

That is exactly what I was trying to say! The fact that I lose weight
very
quickly when I journal and eat the 30 points the program allows, is
perhaps
telling me that I would be somewhat more comfortable eating say 35, and
then
might stop with the overfull / starving situation. I ate well today (30),
but am quite hungry actually. When I have one of those days (maybe 50 -
60
point days) I usually immediately go up to 161 or 162. TWO days eating
30
points, and I drop back to 160. Then if I make it three, I am back to
159.
Then I have another one of THOSE days. I think tomorrow I am going to
plan a
35 point day. Then a 30. Then a planned 35. And see what that does after
a
week or so.

That bouncing from good to trash was what I was doing, and so far this week
I am just Not doing the trash eating. I Want to right now, but Not. In my
own personal case, not weighing daily just gives me an excuse to deny that I
am gaining, so that never works for me. I figure WW doesn't know me that
well .
Another thing about cheese vs gummy bears. I get ever so hungry after a
gummy bear snack, but cheese tends to stick with.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Great. I bounce from good eating to trash eating. Being consistent,
over the days of a week and then week after week is the challenge.

I think that WW may be right. Daily weighing is vexing (G) Approx,
last Monday 165, Tue, 163, Wed (WI day), at home 162.5. Sat 161.
This, Sun morning - 164. Meaning?

But controlling junk is going to be my aim. I mean, at least cheese
is a "healthy" snack whereas gummy bears, juicyfruits, spicedrops?????
SUGAR - high fructose corn syrup.

Off to hike before it gets too hot (6:30am and breakfast consumed and
Joe Biden is Meeting the Press (g))

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:00:18 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Fred, I feel so much better today, after only two days of cutting out all
sugar stuff until my "designated treat time" after dinner, and limiting
that
to 3 or 4 points only. That and paying attention to getting in more
dairy,
mostly what I have done is use yogurt and fruit for snacks. I had one of
"those days" on Thursday, and was 162 Friday morning. 161 this morning
after
a nice filling and balanced 30 point day yesterday.

Thanks C.

--
Les
" Catherine White" wrote in message
et...
Hi, Lesanne, Nice recovery.
--
Take Care
Catherine
joined 5/20/98
Lifetime 6/2/99
154/134.4/136
Personal goal 126
"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
Fred, I feel so much better today, after only two days of cutting out all
sugar stuff until my "designated treat time" after dinner, and limiting
that
to 3 or 4 points only. That and paying attention to getting in more dairy,
mostly what I have done is use yogurt and fruit for snacks. I had one of
"those days" on Thursday, and was 162 Friday morning. 161 this morning
after
a nice filling and balanced 30 point day yesterday.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Definitely track and let us/me know. The last few weeks, thinking
that I was not hungry and therefore could cut back, I was eating half
a sweetpotato rather than an entire one. Well, I lost and maintained
well on a full one for more than a year, so cutting back probably made
no sense other than the idea that "at this time, I don't want a full
potato" but maybe eating it is a good idea. It certainly is healthier
than eating sugary, chewy candies.

I really am tearing through too much sugary candy. It can't be good
for my teeth, never mind my blood sugar level or waistline! (G)

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:27:26 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

That is exactly what I was trying to say! The fact that I lose weight
very
quickly when I journal and eat the 30 points the program allows, is
perhaps
telling me that I would be somewhat more comfortable eating say 35, and
then
might stop with the overfull / starving situation. I ate well today
(30),
but am quite hungry actually. When I have one of those days (maybe
50 -
60
point days) I usually immediately go up to 161 or 162. TWO days eating
30
points, and I drop back to 160. Then if I make it three, I am back to
159.
Then I have another one of THOSE days. I think tomorrow I am going to
plan a
35 point day. Then a 30. Then a planned 35. And see what that does
after
a
week or so.

Thanks C.

--
Les
" Catherine White" wrote in message
et...
Hi, Lesanne, Nice recovery.
--
Take Care
Catherine
joined 5/20/98
Lifetime 6/2/99
154/134.4/136
Personal goal 126
"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
Fred, I feel so much better today, after only two days of cutting out all
sugar stuff until my "designated treat time" after dinner, and limiting
that
to 3 or 4 points only. That and paying attention to getting in more dairy,
mostly what I have done is use yogurt and fruit for snacks. I had one of
"those days" on Thursday, and was 162 Friday morning. 161 this morning
after
a nice filling and balanced 30 point day yesterday.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Definitely track and let us/me know. The last few weeks, thinking
that I was not hungry and therefore could cut back, I was eating half
a sweetpotato rather than an entire one. Well, I lost and maintained
well on a full one for more than a year, so cutting back probably made
no sense other than the idea that "at this time, I don't want a full
potato" but maybe eating it is a good idea. It certainly is healthier
than eating sugary, chewy candies.

I really am tearing through too much sugary candy. It can't be good
for my teeth, never mind my blood sugar level or waistline! (G)

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:27:26 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

That is exactly what I was trying to say! The fact that I lose weight
very
quickly when I journal and eat the 30 points the program allows, is
perhaps
telling me that I would be somewhat more comfortable eating say 35, and
then
might stop with the overfull / starving situation. I ate well today
(30),
but am quite hungry actually. When I have one of those days (maybe
50 -
60
point days) I usually immediately go up to 161 or 162. TWO days eating
30
points, and I drop back to 160. Then if I make it three, I am back to
159.
Then I have another one of THOSE days. I think tomorrow I am going to
plan a
35 point day. Then a 30. Then a planned 35. And see what that does
after
a
week or so.

I don't think the nutrtional info was all that bad - low fat at least, calories
maybe 120 or so for an ounce (which was 7 or 8 large chips). The problem was in
the size of the container, and the fact that no one else in this house was going
to help me eat them. The container is now empty, finished, gone, vanquished from
the house. I have NOT told my eldest this, for fear she will replace it. g

The white peaches were very good, never had them before ... but my favorite is
still the same old standard version. I loaded up on peaches and nectarines this
week, and hub brought in a huge cantaloupe from the farm stand. YUM! I've felt
in better control this past week, scales aren't budging quickly but they are
moving bit by bit, damage isn't too bad either. And clothes still fit well. Whew!
Nothing is permanent, unless I allow it to be ... right?

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:35:49 -0700, Fred wrote:

I'd like to be sidetracked by a white peach or even an ol' fashioned
yellow one (G) I did get a huge dose of blueberries at Costco.

I just saw pita chips yesterday. I decided that I did not need to
discover another snack food. I walked right past without checking out
their nutritional info.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:39:25 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Oh dear. You certainly have a tough time with those meringues. But there are
definitely worse things you could binge on ... like the HUGE bucket of garlic pita
chips my daughter bought for me, that I keep reaching into (I swear the dang
things are reproducing). I got a bad case of the munchies a few minutes ago,
headed for the bucket of meringues that has been sitting on my counter for what
seems like forever. I got sidetracked by a white peach. g

Joyce

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:12:19 -0700, Fred wrote:

Not so great, greatly describes it.

I will work on getting it back down. As I walked to my meeting (from
the parking lot), I did wonder about weekly attendance and the whole
schtick. And I once again realized that this is for real and for long
term and for (I glanced down) my stomach. It is not easy and some
days are trying.

Hard lately? I might attribute it to work. I finished off a triple
chocolate Miss Meringue in two days!!!! Darn that Trader Joes! (G)

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:25:52 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Well ow, that was not so great, but I am sure you will drop it back where it
belongs.
I am up a bit right now too. I don't know why it is so hard lately.

I don't think the nutrtional info was all that bad - low fat at least, calories
maybe 120 or so for an ounce (which was 7 or 8 large chips). The problem was in
the size of the container, and the fact that no one else in this house was going
to help me eat them. The container is now empty, finished, gone, vanquished from
the house. I have NOT told my eldest this, for fear she will replace it. g

The white peaches were very good, never had them before ... but my favorite is
still the same old standard version. I loaded up on peaches and nectarines this
week, and hub brought in a huge cantaloupe from the farm stand. YUM! I've felt
in better control this past week, scales aren't budging quickly but they are
moving bit by bit, damage isn't too bad either. And clothes still fit well. Whew!
Nothing is permanent, unless I allow it to be ... right?

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:35:49 -0700, Fred wrote:

I'd like to be sidetracked by a white peach or even an ol' fashioned
yellow one (G) I did get a huge dose of blueberries at Costco.

I just saw pita chips yesterday. I decided that I did not need to
discover another snack food. I walked right past without checking out
their nutritional info.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:39:25 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Oh dear. You certainly have a tough time with those meringues. But there are
definitely worse things you could binge on ... like the HUGE bucket of garlic pita
chips my daughter bought for me, that I keep reaching into (I swear the dang
things are reproducing). I got a bad case of the munchies a few minutes ago,
headed for the bucket of meringues that has been sitting on my counter for what
seems like forever. I got sidetracked by a white peach. g

Joyce

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:12:19 -0700, Fred wrote:

Not so great, greatly describes it.

I will work on getting it back down. As I walked to my meeting (from
the parking lot), I did wonder about weekly attendance and the whole
schtick. And I once again realized that this is for real and for long
term and for (I glanced down) my stomach. It is not easy and some
days are trying.

Hard lately? I might attribute it to work. I finished off a triple
chocolate Miss Meringue in two days!!!! Darn that Trader Joes! (G)

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:25:52 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Well ow, that was not so great, but I am sure you will drop it back where it
belongs.
I am up a bit right now too. I don't know why it is so hard lately.

I don't think the nutrtional info was all that bad - low fat at least, calories
maybe 120 or so for an ounce (which was 7 or 8 large chips). The problem was in
the size of the container, and the fact that no one else in this house was going
to help me eat them. The container is now empty, finished, gone, vanquished from
the house. I have NOT told my eldest this, for fear she will replace it. g

The white peaches were very good, never had them before ... but my favorite is
still the same old standard version. I loaded up on peaches and nectarines this
week, and hub brought in a huge cantaloupe from the farm stand. YUM! I've felt
in better control this past week, scales aren't budging quickly but they are
moving bit by bit, damage isn't too bad either. And clothes still fit well. Whew!
Nothing is permanent, unless I allow it to be ... right?

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:35:49 -0700, Fred wrote:

I'd like to be sidetracked by a white peach or even an ol' fashioned
yellow one (G) I did get a huge dose of blueberries at Costco.

I just saw pita chips yesterday. I decided that I did not need to
discover another snack food. I walked right past without checking out
their nutritional info.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:39:25 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Oh dear. You certainly have a tough time with those meringues. But there are
definitely worse things you could binge on ... like the HUGE bucket of garlic pita
chips my daughter bought for me, that I keep reaching into (I swear the dang
things are reproducing). I got a bad case of the munchies a few minutes ago,
headed for the bucket of meringues that has been sitting on my counter for what
seems like forever. I got sidetracked by a white peach. g

Joyce

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:12:19 -0700, Fred wrote:

Not so great, greatly describes it.

I will work on getting it back down. As I walked to my meeting (from
the parking lot), I did wonder about weekly attendance and the whole
schtick. And I once again realized that this is for real and for long
term and for (I glanced down) my stomach. It is not easy and some
days are trying.

Hard lately? I might attribute it to work. I finished off a triple
chocolate Miss Meringue in two days!!!! Darn that Trader Joes! (G)

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:25:52 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Well ow, that was not so great, but I am sure you will drop it back where it
belongs.
I am up a bit right now too. I don't know why it is so hard lately.

I know that my eating hasn't been wonderful by any stretch of the imagination, but
I'm also thinking water retention is playing a bit of havoc ... too much sodium
and maybe too much regional humidity - even though the days are a bit cooler this
week. Rings are tight, shoes are snug (which is a good indicator for me) and boy
can that scale jump unreasonably up. More water, I definitely need to drink more
water.

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:37:09 -0700, Fred wrote:

Oh, this reminds me - I don't think yesterday was that bad as I was
down 1.5 on the home scale this morning. Exercise WATER! (G)

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:34:29 -0500, Joyce wrote:

If either of you figure out why it's been tougher lately, please let me know! I'm
not horribly off track, but it's definitely been more difficult these days.
Weight up this morning, am guessing water retention as when I slipped into my
shoes to head out the door this morning (my comfy moccasins) I noticed they really
were snug and more difficult to get into than usual. Ahhhh, swollen feet/hands is
generally a good tip off to me that there is something else going on. And yes,
just now I realized my rings are tighter than norm also. sigh But still ...

By the way ... I tried to email you Les, with a goofy question/request for my
daughter - but I received a notification that after several days the email was
cancelled (don't remember the technical reason). I removed the *not* from you
email address ... is there something else I should have done? You can email me
personally at jaw179atearthlinkdotnet

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:25:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well ow, that was not so great, but I am sure you will drop it back where it
belongs.
I am up a bit right now too. I don't know why it is so hard lately.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

I know that my eating hasn't been wonderful by any stretch of the imagination, but
I'm also thinking water retention is playing a bit of havoc ... too much sodium
and maybe too much regional humidity - even though the days are a bit cooler this
week. Rings are tight, shoes are snug (which is a good indicator for me) and boy
can that scale jump unreasonably up. More water, I definitely need to drink more
water.

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:37:09 -0700, Fred wrote:

Oh, this reminds me - I don't think yesterday was that bad as I was
down 1.5 on the home scale this morning. Exercise WATER! (G)

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:34:29 -0500, Joyce wrote:

If either of you figure out why it's been tougher lately, please let me know! I'm
not horribly off track, but it's definitely been more difficult these days.
Weight up this morning, am guessing water retention as when I slipped into my
shoes to head out the door this morning (my comfy moccasins) I noticed they really
were snug and more difficult to get into than usual. Ahhhh, swollen feet/hands is
generally a good tip off to me that there is something else going on. And yes,
just now I realized my rings are tighter than norm also. sigh But still ...

By the way ... I tried to email you Les, with a goofy question/request for my
daughter - but I received a notification that after several days the email was
cancelled (don't remember the technical reason). I removed the *not* from you
email address ... is there something else I should have done? You can email me
personally at jaw179atearthlinkdotnet

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:25:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well ow, that was not so great, but I am sure you will drop it back where it
belongs.
I am up a bit right now too. I don't know why it is so hard lately.

--
Les
"Fred" wrote in message
...
A BUMP or negative pothole in the road of life....

Current: 162.8
Gain: 2.0

But that is down 2 in the last two days, so ..... Well, so.

Fred
219.2/162.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002