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Old June 7th, 2004, 01:12 AM
KittenLove99
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!

I am a person who has a tough time losing weight. Most people do anyway but I
am resistant to it. Exercise has to be excessive, food intake has to be perfect
and low calorie or I maintain. Yet medifast, a liquid diet, makes me lose
weight everytime I can stick to it.

I have eaten as little as 600 calories a day and never lost an ounce, yet that
is about what a consume with medifast and off comes the weight. Why do I go
into "starvation mode" on any other low calorie food diet but not on medifast?
Does anyone understand why this works??

It is a sad fact of the world for everyone, but especially us ladies, that we
are willing to torture our bodies to be thin. Here I am, suffering on
medifast, a diet that gives me heart palpitations and headaches, makes me weak
and feel gross but willing to do it because it WORKS. Because other diets cant
seem to get the last of the weight off me and the liquid diet always does.

I am so confused about dieting, I thought I was an expert. I have no idea what
to eat to make me thin and healthy and stay that way. The only time I have
maintained my weight and not gained was on an 800 calorie a day ALL PROTEIN low
fat and I mean ZERO carb diet. How the hell do I stay on that for life???? I am
really frustrated with my body. I dont even lose weight on that, only maintain.
If I eat ONE thing off the plan I gain up to 5 pounds. In 2 weeks I put on 17
pounds just from eating "normally" and not starving. I hate my body.

Well I am venting. Thanks for being here. Would love to hear any thoughts from
people out there who did liquid diets, and from other women with bodies like
mine...are you out there or am I alone?
Thanks
Vanessa
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Old June 7th, 2004, 01:49 AM
JMA
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!


"KittenLove99" wrote in message
...
Well I am venting. Thanks for being here. Would love to hear any thoughts

from
people out there who did liquid diets, and from other women with bodies

like
mine...are you out there or am I alone?
Thanks
Vanessa


I did a liquid diet and was quite successful in losing the weight like you.
Keeping it off has been a serious challenge to say the least. Each person
is different and has different levels of success. The people I know
personally who have kept their weight off have done so for two reasons:
either they built up a lot of muscle or they continue to eat extremely low
calorie.

I'm not sure on the research, bicker would know better than me, but I
personally think that how long you did the liquid before transitioning to a
low calorie plan with regular food has a lot to do with your long term
effects. I stayed on the liquid until my goal weight and then lost more
during the transition, so much so that they rushed me through the
transition. If I had it to do over, I would have transitioned sooner and
slower. I think that I ended up losing too much lean mass which has made it
difficult to maintain my weight, but I'm doing weight training and it's
helping.

Your hormones also play a big part. I ended up losing too much estrogen too
quickly and my periods completely stopped during my liquid diet. My body
still hasn't recovered and now I'm in perimenopause at 37 which has wreaked
havoc with my entire system. I also had an existing adrenal problem that
didn't become apparent until after the weight loss. I get this fun thing
where every so often my body swells up like a water filled balloon and I can
be as much as 15 lbs heavier in one day and can barely walk because my feet
get really bad.

Each of these problems are affecting my ability to maintain or even lose
weight, but I'm seeing positive results from doing the weight training,
eating 5-6 small meals a day, and taking hormones.

Don't give up, but don't expect quick results either. You aren't alone.

Jenn


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Old June 7th, 2004, 02:00 AM
Patricia Heil
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!


Your thing about building up muscle is a good point. That requires
exercise. You have to exercise to be healthy. I'm glad you kept after it
and found some way to do that even when you couldn't walk.


"JMA" wrote in message
...

"KittenLove99" wrote in message
...
Well I am venting. Thanks for being here. Would love to hear any

thoughts
from
people out there who did liquid diets, and from other women with bodies

like
mine...are you out there or am I alone?
Thanks
Vanessa


I did a liquid diet and was quite successful in losing the weight like

you.
Keeping it off has been a serious challenge to say the least. Each person
is different and has different levels of success. The people I know
personally who have kept their weight off have done so for two reasons:
either they built up a lot of muscle or they continue to eat extremely low
calorie.

I'm not sure on the research, bicker would know better than me, but I
personally think that how long you did the liquid before transitioning to

a
low calorie plan with regular food has a lot to do with your long term
effects. I stayed on the liquid until my goal weight and then lost more
during the transition, so much so that they rushed me through the
transition. If I had it to do over, I would have transitioned sooner and
slower. I think that I ended up losing too much lean mass which has made

it
difficult to maintain my weight, but I'm doing weight training and it's
helping.

Your hormones also play a big part. I ended up losing too much estrogen

too
quickly and my periods completely stopped during my liquid diet. My body
still hasn't recovered and now I'm in perimenopause at 37 which has

wreaked
havoc with my entire system. I also had an existing adrenal problem that
didn't become apparent until after the weight loss. I get this fun thing
where every so often my body swells up like a water filled balloon and I

can
be as much as 15 lbs heavier in one day and can barely walk because my

feet
get really bad.

Each of these problems are affecting my ability to maintain or even lose
weight, but I'm seeing positive results from doing the weight training,
eating 5-6 small meals a day, and taking hormones.

Don't give up, but don't expect quick results either. You aren't alone.

Jenn




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Old June 7th, 2004, 02:01 AM
Patricia Heil
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!


I'm sorry if you said this and I forgot but you don't say anything here
about exercise. Do what JMA did; don't let anything stand in the way of
exercising.

"KittenLove99" wrote in message
...
I am a person who has a tough time losing weight. Most people do anyway

but I
am resistant to it. Exercise has to be excessive, food intake has to be

perfect
and low calorie or I maintain. Yet medifast, a liquid diet, makes me lose
weight everytime I can stick to it.

I have eaten as little as 600 calories a day and never lost an ounce, yet

that
is about what a consume with medifast and off comes the weight. Why do I

go
into "starvation mode" on any other low calorie food diet but not on

medifast?
Does anyone understand why this works??

It is a sad fact of the world for everyone, but especially us ladies, that

we
are willing to torture our bodies to be thin. Here I am, suffering on
medifast, a diet that gives me heart palpitations and headaches, makes me

weak
and feel gross but willing to do it because it WORKS. Because other diets

cant
seem to get the last of the weight off me and the liquid diet always does.

I am so confused about dieting, I thought I was an expert. I have no idea

what
to eat to make me thin and healthy and stay that way. The only time I have
maintained my weight and not gained was on an 800 calorie a day ALL

PROTEIN low
fat and I mean ZERO carb diet. How the hell do I stay on that for life????

I am
really frustrated with my body. I dont even lose weight on that, only

maintain.
If I eat ONE thing off the plan I gain up to 5 pounds. In 2 weeks I put on

17
pounds just from eating "normally" and not starving. I hate my body.

Well I am venting. Thanks for being here. Would love to hear any thoughts

from
people out there who did liquid diets, and from other women with bodies

like
mine...are you out there or am I alone?
Thanks
Vanessa



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Old June 7th, 2004, 02:19 AM
KittenLove99
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!


Do you have any special health issues?


Yes, I have PCOS, diabetes, insulin resistance - all of which seems mostly
controllable through low carb dieting. However, now I cant lose any weight low
carbing or on any normal type diet...dont know where to go with this?
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Old June 7th, 2004, 02:25 AM
GaryG
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!

"KittenLove99" wrote in message
...
I am a person who has a tough time losing weight. Most people do anyway

but I
am resistant to it. Exercise has to be excessive, food intake has to be

perfect
and low calorie or I maintain. Yet medifast, a liquid diet, makes me lose
weight everytime I can stick to it.

I have eaten as little as 600 calories a day and never lost an ounce, yet

that
is about what a consume with medifast and off comes the weight. Why do I

go
into "starvation mode" on any other low calorie food diet but not on

medifast?
Does anyone understand why this works??


This would seem to violate the laws of thermodynamics. Your body burns a
certain number of calories every day. If you were consistently consuming
only 600 calories per day, and not losing any weight, that would mean that
your body was only burning 600 calories per day. This seems highly
unlikely...you would probably burn more than this even if you were sleeping
all day long.

Most people underestimate the number of calories they consume each day -
this phenomenon has been documented in a number of research studies, and it
is especially true of overweight and obese folks.

So, in answer to your question - perhaps the liquid diets work because it's
harder to cheat on a liquid diet.

GG


It is a sad fact of the world for everyone, but especially us ladies, that

we
are willing to torture our bodies to be thin. Here I am, suffering on
medifast, a diet that gives me heart palpitations and headaches, makes me

weak
and feel gross but willing to do it because it WORKS. Because other diets

cant
seem to get the last of the weight off me and the liquid diet always does.

I am so confused about dieting, I thought I was an expert. I have no idea

what
to eat to make me thin and healthy and stay that way. The only time I have
maintained my weight and not gained was on an 800 calorie a day ALL

PROTEIN low
fat and I mean ZERO carb diet. How the hell do I stay on that for life????

I am
really frustrated with my body. I dont even lose weight on that, only

maintain.
If I eat ONE thing off the plan I gain up to 5 pounds. In 2 weeks I put on

17
pounds just from eating "normally" and not starving. I hate my body.

Well I am venting. Thanks for being here. Would love to hear any thoughts

from
people out there who did liquid diets, and from other women with bodies

like
mine...are you out there or am I alone?
Thanks
Vanessa



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Old June 7th, 2004, 03:44 AM
Auntie Em
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!

"KittenLove99" wrote in message
...
I am a person who has a tough time losing weight. Most people do anyway

but I
am resistant to it. Exercise has to be excessive, food intake has to be

perfect
and low calorie or I maintain. Yet medifast, a liquid diet, makes me lose
weight everytime I can stick to it.


I'm afraid I don't have much to offer in the way of a reply. But I do have
a question. How on earth can you stand drinking those liquid diet things?
To me they taste so awful, I think I would rather drink a glass of used
motor oil.

Em


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Old June 7th, 2004, 04:49 AM
KittenLove99
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To me they taste so awful, I think I would rather drink a glass of used
motor oil.

Em


Em, if I could have 5 minutes with God and ask Him to grant one wish - it would
be that I could go on living and never have to eat.

I hate food, I hate eating, and if I didnt feel hungry and lousy on the shakes,
I would feel relieved that I never had to eat solid food. If I could live on
shakes and feel great, I would do so for life.

I actually like the taste of them though :-)
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Old June 7th, 2004, 10:53 AM
Kasey
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!

The only time I have
maintained my weight and not gained was on an 800 calorie a day ALL
PROTEIN low
fat and I mean ZERO carb diet. How the hell do I stay on that for
life???? I am
really frustrated with my body. I dont even lose weight on that, only
maintain.
If I eat ONE thing off the plan I gain up to 5 pounds. In 2 weeks I
put on 17
pounds just from eating "normally" and not starving.

I'm sorry that you're having such a tough time. I have a few
questions.

How old are you? How tall?

What weight are you trying to maintain? How many calories is "eating
normally"?

What happened after you put on 17 pounds in two weeks? Did your weight
stabilize or continue to go up?

What is the highest weight you've been? How long were you at that
weight?

What does your doctor say (you are going on these fasts under strict
medical supervision, right?) about your apparently extremely slow
metabolism?

As always, YMMV.

Kasey
365/262/???
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Old June 7th, 2004, 12:23 PM
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Default WHY do liquid diets work? Medifast - Optifast - HMR!

A Sun, 6 Jun 2004 19:49:09 -0500, "JMA"
escribió:
I'm not sure on the research, bicker would know better than me, but I
personally think that how long you did the liquid before transitioning to a
low calorie plan with regular food has a lot to do with your long term
effects.


From what I've experienced and read, I believe it is
actually more a matter of how formal the transition to
maintenance is.

VLCDs work best for the morbidy obese precisely because they
are relatively easy to maintain for the period of
weight-loss. However, they're subject to the same pressures
of regain from reverting back to previous (bad) eating and
lifestyle behaviors as other diet regimens. VLCDs have
typically taken their advantage, in that they're generally
taken more seriously by their patients (due to the higher
risks from the regimen itself), to apply significant
behavioral re-training into the weight-loss support.
Behavioral re-training is the key to effectiveness with
respect to maintenance, regardless of the approach taken.



--
bicker®
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/D...ry_040602.html
 




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