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Doh! I'm allergic to...
::: :: Ah, it wasn't an allergy test (my mistake). Regardless of your :: ideas, I'm going to cut out this stuff for a while. I'm sorry I :: post this, as all I get are people who critique for no good reason. :: I'll be gone for another few months, as I can't take this negativity. What negativity are you referring to? The part where people pointed out that chiropractors AREN'T REAL DOCTORS. Evidently, Bob took umbrage at that.... Pat in TX |
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On Mar 29, 3:35 pm, "Bob in CT" wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:07:02 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote: Hollywood wrote: :: On Mar 28, 11:10 am, "Bob in CT" wrote: ::: eggs, cheese, pork, and chicken (along with every grain -- except ::: rice -- known to man). This makes meal planning a bit rough. (Oh ::: yeah, and milk and peanut butter -- no more peanut butter? That ::: sucks!) ::: ::: -- ::: Bob in CT :: :: My friend, a doctor, had an allergy test done and was allergic to a :: ton of things that she was eating. She did some research, found out :: that allergy tests are wrong 50% of the time. Got retested, and was :: allergic to a much smaller panel of stuff. :: :: I would strongly suggest a retest in a more traditional medical :: setting, regardless of your opinions of the traditional medicine :: industry. I strongly agree with this. While the medical community is seemingly out of whack on some things, they are not, as a rule, just a bunch of bozos. Some self-education on this topic will help you do a better job of zeroing in on what's really the issue. Restricting oneself unnecessarily is likely to be bad idea. Especially when based on one test. Let's get some double or triple confirmation here after doing some self-ed (as others are providing). :: :: PS- Dr. Atkins was a real doctor. As are Dr & Dr Eades. And Dr. Mary :: Vernon. And others. They're not all food pyramid morons. Ah, it wasn't an allergy test (my mistake). Regardless of your ideas, I'm going to cut out this stuff for a while. I'm sorry I post this, as all I get are people who critique for no good reason. I'll be gone for another few months, as I can't take this negativity. I'm sorry that your test turned out so badly. And, I'm sorry if you got any negativity. I was only trying to be helpful. Scorn for Chiropractors who treat anything beyond back pain is just a knee jerk reaction. But, a reputable chiro will not offer such services, just as the best chiro schools don't teach them. I think your response is way out of whack with the input. I realize that Atkins and Eades are good doctors, but teh vast majority of them are not. Take my primary care physician, who examines my LDL level with the utmost case, yet hasn't said anything about my blood sugar being 100 two years in row! And there are tons of morons like him. Sample of one. Bad study design. But, yeah, there are doctors who are out of date on their thinking or lazy on reading research. There are doctors who are better. My doc wasn't exactly supportive, but he is now. Or he just got sick of hearing my stuff or not reading studies I might bring him. Either way, Dr. Z is okay. I still think you should get a retest. If you don't like doctors, go to a diagnostic lab. That's where the doctor is gonna send it anyway. These tests have very high type 1 and type 2 error rates. You deserve the best, or at least should think you do. -- Bob in CT |
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Bob in CT wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:07:02 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote: Hollywood wrote: :: On Mar 28, 11:10 am, "Bob in CT" wrote: ::: eggs, cheese, pork, and chicken (along with every grain -- except ::: rice -- known to man). This makes meal planning a bit rough. (Oh ::: yeah, and milk and peanut butter -- no more peanut butter? That ::: sucks!) ::: ::: -- ::: Bob in CT :: :: My friend, a doctor, had an allergy test done and was allergic to a :: ton of things that she was eating. She did some research, found out :: that allergy tests are wrong 50% of the time. Got retested, and was :: allergic to a much smaller panel of stuff. :: :: I would strongly suggest a retest in a more traditional medical :: setting, regardless of your opinions of the traditional medicine :: industry. I strongly agree with this. While the medical community is seemingly out of whack on some things, they are not, as a rule, just a bunch of bozos. Some self-education on this topic will help you do a better job of zeroing in on what's really the issue. Restricting oneself unnecessarily is likely to be bad idea. Especially when based on one test. Let's get some double or triple confirmation here after doing some self-ed (as others are providing). :: :: PS- Dr. Atkins was a real doctor. As are Dr & Dr Eades. And Dr. Mary :: Vernon. And others. They're not all food pyramid morons. Ah, it wasn't an allergy test (my mistake). Regardless of your ideas, I'm going to cut out this stuff for a while. I'm sorry I post this, as all I get are people who critique for no good reason. I'll be gone for another few months, as I can't take this negativity. I realize that Atkins and Eades are good doctors, but teh vast majority of them are not. Take my primary care physician, who examines my LDL level with the utmost case, yet hasn't said anything about my blood sugar being 100 two years in row! And there are tons of morons like him. I remember "Hair Analysis" in the 1970's being hailed as a diagnostic for finding all kinds of record of things you have ingested that, unknown to you, were causing you to have a significantly lower quality of life. One of the local TV stations ran a special on this. Part of their interest was the "intrepreter" of the hair analysis that you consulted to tell you what the lab tests meant, and how you should change your life as a result. The other interest was the lab itself. Were they actually reliable? They took a hair sample from a reporter and divided it into two samples. Each sample was sent to the same lab, but with a different name and address given as to the subject. The results for the divided samples were far from identical. It was as if they were for two different people. At any rate, the lab wasn't considered reliable for doing this non-standard analysis. I forgot how they tricked the "intrepreter" of the meaning of the analysis, but it appeared as if the "intrepretation" was clearly inconsistent. This is all I can recall from an investigative reporting episode 30 plus years ago. I hope you understand that I'm not attacking you, but I fell in with a bunch of "alternative healing" people for a while, but I managed to escape unharmed, thank you. Jim |
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Doh! I'm allergic to...
"Roger Zoul" writes:
I strongly agree with this. While the medical community is seemingly out of whack on some things, they are not, as a rule, just a bunch of bozos. Even if they are bozos, they still have access to tests that you can't easily do yourself, like having your blood drawn and tested for allergies or food intolerances. Still, you can't hurt yourself by eliminating a food from your diet for a while and seeing how you feel, especially when you're talking mostly about grains anyway. I did that with peanuts recently. I'd been eating a lot of them for snacks, maybe even enough to break my carb limit once in a while, but they seemed to be affecting me a lot more than just the carbs would account for. I cut them out completely for a month, and did seem to have more energy and less rumbling in my stomach. Of course, peanuts are a fairly common allergy, so it was an easy one to guess at and try. One of these days I'll have some again, and see if I can tell any difference. -- Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- http://aaron.baugher.biz/ "If you hear hoofbeats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not zebras." |
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