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Susan wrote:
They are licensed to practice osteopathic MEDICINE. Hence they are medically trained medical practitioners, who had worse grades in college than their colleagues who are M.D.s. :-) Or, as one friend of mine did, it's someone who earned an MD first, then decided that osteopathy offered her more opportunities to help patients. She didn't get the DO because she lacked the ability to get into med school; in fact, she made it into med school at a time when sexism and racism were widely practiced admissions policies and her pre-med accomplishments were far better than the vast majority of the men who were her classmates (she was the only woman in her class). She graduated at the head of her class and went on to get a DO about ten years later. Shirley to reply via e-mail remove the trees from my address |
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Jim Chinnis wrote:
Most MDs and DOs are lousy at helping people lose weight anyway! This is certainly true! Shirley to reply via e-mail remove the trees from my address |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:24:41 -0500, M Shirley Chong
announced in front of God and everybody: Steve wrote: How come nobody applauds JC when he does the same thing :-) JC gets some support. Dr Phil probably gets more because charisma is easier to convey in person or on video and he's got that "aw shucks, I'm just a country boy" thing going that makes his message more palatable to more people. Plus he's a good storyteller. JC is the stripped down version. Some people prefer stripped down but my suspicion is that most people prefer the bells and whistles version. Bill Gates didn't make umpteen bajillion dollars by presenting a lean, efficient, stable operating system, after all. So maybe what I'm trying to say is that JC is the Linux version of Dr Phil. And personally I find them equally unpleasant. I guess it's a taste thing. Dawn |
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"M Shirley Chong" wrote in message ... revek wrote: I'm glad it's worked out for you. I've seen exactly one show of his. I've seen him numerous times on Oprah though and I have to say his delivery is different on Oprah, more harsh. When he's on his own show he's far less scornful and more diplomatic. On a tangent: this does not surprise me. I know someone who appeared on Oprah as an expert and it was quite the eye-opening experience. Her impression of Oprah behind the scenes was that of a control freak and something of a bully. Or more accurately, someone who totally does not tolerate challenges or surprises on her territory. My friend had the impression initially that she was going to answer , questions, give information, etc (in her area of expertise which was why the show flew her in and put her up at quite a nice hotel). Once she was there to tape the show, the show's producers were quite directive about the details of her delivery, what information she was going to cover, etc. And behind the scenes, Oprah was quite different from the warm, open, welcoming persona she portrays onstage. So if Dr Phil was different on Oprah (I don't know, haven't really watched either show), my impression is that it would be because that's the way Oprah wants it. And really, Oprah is clearly the expert at what she does... Har. Yeah. Well it explains the difference. I've formed my impression of the man though. He triggers all sorts of nasty memes and bad programming in me. Which I clearly admit is my fault and not his, but because of my past history, I can't change it without a *lot* of effort, and frankly I don't think its worth my time, especially as the information he has is already out there, in other venues. I have better things to do. revek |
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You'd love the taste if you tried it.
-- JC Lyle's New Ultimate Diet "1. eat less you fat **** 2. exercise more you fat ****" "Dawn Taylor" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:24:41 -0500, M Shirley Chong announced in front of God and everybody: Steve wrote: How come nobody applauds JC when he does the same thing :-) JC gets some support. Dr Phil probably gets more because charisma is easier to convey in person or on video and he's got that "aw shucks, I'm just a country boy" thing going that makes his message more palatable to more people. Plus he's a good storyteller. JC is the stripped down version. Some people prefer stripped down but my suspicion is that most people prefer the bells and whistles version. Bill Gates didn't make umpteen bajillion dollars by presenting a lean, efficient, stable operating system, after all. So maybe what I'm trying to say is that JC is the Linux version of Dr Phil. And personally I find them equally unpleasant. I guess it's a taste thing. Dawn |
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I wrote:
I know someone who appeared on Oprah as an expert and it was quite the eye-opening experience. Her impression of Oprah behind the scenes was that of a control freak and something of a bully. Or more accurately, someone who totally does not tolerate challenges or surprises on her territo Susan wrote: My friend who appeared on Oprah found her incredibly lovely and warm, and was not intructed at all on what to present. Interesting. Although I wasn't there to witness what my friend experienced backstage, I did read the extremely specific list of points she was supposed to cover (in most cases with suggested wording) she was given by the staff the morning of the taping. At the end of the list, there was a note to the effect that if she felt she might deviate from these points, she was to notify Person X on the staff. My friend said that had she understood in advance that her appearance was to be so heavily scripted, she would have declined to appear. Wonder what accounts for the difference? Shirley to reply via e-mail remove the trees from my address |
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I wrote:
Or, as one friend of mine did, it's someone who earned an MD first, then decided that osteopathy offered her more opportunities to help patients. Susan wrote: That makes absolutely no sense to me. Most of the education is identical, why wouldn't she just study manipulations without putting in the years for a D.O.? Just my take. Because at the time (mid fifties) that option wasn't available. She wanted the education and she wanted the degree to prove she had it. At that time, she had faced considerable prejudice (sexism and racism) and had learned to super-achieve, cross every T and dot every I as a defensive measure. She simply accepted that if she wanted to achieve average success, she would have to put in much more effort than the average white male. So she did it. In talking to her it's striking how many things have changed in the last fifty years. She faced and overcame obstacles and attitudes that seem almost incomprehensible now. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but everyone I've ever known who got a D.O. (quite a few of them, including numerous relatives) got it due to grades. That's different from your original statement; you made no such qualifier previously. Shirley to reply via e-mail remove the trees from my address |
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"Kevin Martin (Homebrewer)" wrote in message
et... In article Xq4bb.150923$3o3.10822681@bgtnsc05- news.ops.worldnet.att.net, says... You'd love the taste if you tried it. -- JC Lyle's New Ultimate Diet "1. eat less you fat **** 2. exercise more you fat ****" "Dawn Taylor" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:24:41 -0500, M Shirley Chong announced in front of God and everybody: Steve wrote: How come nobody applauds JC when he does the same thing :-) JC gets some support. Dr Phil probably gets more because charisma is easier to convey in person or on video and he's got that "aw shucks, I'm just a country boy" thing going that makes his message more palatable to more people. Plus he's a good storyteller. JC is the stripped down version. Some people prefer stripped down but my suspicion is that most people prefer the bells and whistles version. Bill Gates didn't make umpteen bajillion dollars by presenting a lean, efficient, stable operating system, after all. So maybe what I'm trying to say is that JC is the Linux version of Dr Phil. And personally I find them equally unpleasant. I guess it's a taste thing. Dawn I spit scotch (NO it does NOT have carbs as DON'T vodka, gin, rum, bourbon etc...) on the screen at that one JC! :-) Does Scotch work as a cleaning solvent? |
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In article E69bb.151942$3o3.10847795@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, says... Does Scotch work as a cleaning solvent? Yep, screen is pure as the driven sludge at this point! -- 370/308/270 Confirmed Meatatarian email: My foot isn't medium, it's big. |
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