How to get fat without even trying

Me, too - but the show pointed out that children believe commercials.
Junk food is the "normal" snack food for kids now. Other countries
have banned junk food ads aimed at children.

Patricia Heil wrote in message ...
So are we automatons who buy everything the TV tells us to buy?
Not me. I don't buy anything, literally or figuratively, until
I've checked it out for myself.

Beverly wrote:

Peter Jennings aired a very interesting show on ABC this evening titled "How
to get fat without even trying".
Here's a summary of the show. It dealt with the food industry and it's
contributions to the overweight epidemic in America.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/L..._031208-1.html

Brad Sheppard wrote:
Me, too - but the show pointed out that children believe commercials.
Junk food is the "normal" snack food for kids now. Other countries
have banned junk food ads aimed at children.

When my children attended public school - cupcakes, donuts, and candy
bars were often used as incentives to pay attention in class. A
substitute teacher in my son's class used that *daily*. It's no wonder
when I saw the boring presentation of the assignments. But still,
things like that should be the sole discretion of the PARENT, not the
teacher.

Ignoramus6480 wrote:
In article , Crafting Mom wrote:
Ignoramus6480 wrote:

Hey CM, what happened? You are getting back on the wagon, what's going
on?

Yep, I fell off. I am getting back on to what *worked* for me (not only
for some stupid number on a scale, but for how I FELT). I'm back on low
carb as my _baseline_ diet, with 1-2 servings of fresh fruit (the fruit,
not the juice) added to it.

Going off a diet that I know *works* in every respect was a foolish
mistake on my part. But it keeps me human I'm living proof that
it's going OFF the diet that doesn't work, NOT the diet in and of
itself.

CM


I am curious as to what actually happened. I am not lowcarbing -- my
standard breakfast is sandwiches -- but I do not eat certain foods and
I am curious as to how hard it is to "get back on the bandwagon" if I
eat them.

Well, it is very hard to "get back on". I don't eat glutenous grains,
and did not, even when I fell off. But I did allow myself to eat things
containing refined sugar. It is extremely hard. It is going to take at
least another week without it for the desire to go away (I've had the
desire go away before after prolonged periods without)

I agree completely.

Perple Gyrl wrote:

Its almost impossible to escape, even if you turn the tv off. It is on
billboards, in magazines, in store displays. The kids would have to be
raised by mormons in the country with no electricity to not be exposed. I
think that parents should take more of the responsibility in making sure the
kids understand nutrition and consequences.

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"Carol Frilegh" wrote in message
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In article , Ignoramus25226
wrote:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/L..._031208-1.html

Without even seeing this show, we know who is to blame.

America and it's health care system and grain agri-mega-culture bosses
and lobbysists and food processors and advertising agencies have
brainwashed a passive, lazy public into thinking they need a lot of
things to make them feel adaquate and happy.

Most of the things are chemical or nutritional trash, trans fatty
acids, sugars and starches and the garbage the packaging companies to
created in the form of wrappings to clutter up dumpsites or burn in
incinerators and generate toxic smoke.

We are the envy of the world and the clothes horses for extra large
sizes and candidates for angioplasty.

Our TV screens are cluttered up with ads for medications to make us
bounce along a beach, hand in hand, and the horrible possible side
effects must also be prominently displayed on the screen.

People think the new RAW food is oh so trendy when man subsisted on it
originally. Others aren't happy with the existing food oils, they have
to genetically modify rapseed with no concern for the fact that
changing one molecule can effect the others, but they don't know just
how. Kids think the best machines are the vending monsters in their
schools, funded for athletics by the soft drink companies.

The final insult is the legion of supermodels flaunting stick slender
figures floated by blobs of silicone as they prance down runways clad
in clothes that don't fit anyone but anorexics.

Peter Finch had the right idea in the Paddy Chayefsky movie about TV,
"Network".

Turn it off, turn it all off NOW!

(Shall I tell you how i really feel ? :-)

--
Diva
********
There Is No Triumph Without Loss!

No, but when the kid tells mom or dad to stop at McDonald's,
or buy junk at the grocery store, I agree with your other post
-- it is up to the parent to say what I spend my money on is not
going to be junk. I also think that if the parent is packing a
lunch, Lunchables should not be in it, and if the kid's allowance
disappears like nothing, the parent shouldn't be giving them
extra money.

My brother has his girls put part of their allowance
into savings, part into school supplies, etc. He is not going
to increase their allowance without knowing what they spend
their money on.

Perple Gyrl wrote:

I agree. However, I am not a parent but I am assuming that it is hard for a
parent to monitor their kids 24/7 though.

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"jmk" wrote in message
...
Well, part of the point that they were trying to make is that kids don't
understand marketing (that someone is trying to get them to buy
something, may not be telling the whole truth, may be making exagerated
claims, etc.). There is no debate over the fact that kids don't
understand this. The debate is over when they do. Kraft Foods says 6
yo. Others think that it's a lot closer to 10 yo.

"Last year there were more than 2,800 new candies, desserts, ice creams
and snacks on the market — but only 230 new fruit or vegetable products."

The show (and article at
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/L..._031208-1.html) went on
to say:

"The average American child sees 10,000 food advertisements a year on
television alone, and most of those advertisements are for fast food,
sugarcoated cereal, soft drinks and candy, and other foods dense in fat
and calories."

So yes, parents need to (1) set a good example and (2) help their kids
to understand it but there is a limit to what kids of different ages
will be able to understand (not exactly rocket science, I know).

On 12/9/2003 1:30 AM, Perple Gyrl wrote:
Its almost impossible to escape, even if you turn the tv off. It is on
billboards, in magazines, in store displays. The kids would have to be
raised by mormons in the country with no electricity to not be exposed.
I
think that parents should take more of the responsibility in making sure
the
kids understand nutrition and consequences.

--
Email me at:
perpleglow(AT)comcast.net
http://community.webshots.com/user/perpleglow


"Carol Frilegh" wrote in message
...

In article , Ignoramus25226
wrote:


http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/L..._031208-1.html

Without even seeing this show, we know who is to blame.

America and it's health care system and grain agri-mega-culture bosses
and lobbysists and food processors and advertising agencies have
brainwashed a passive, lazy public into thinking they need a lot of
things to make them feel adaquate and happy.

Most of the things are chemical or nutritional trash, trans fatty
acids, sugars and starches and the garbage the packaging companies to
created in the form of wrappings to clutter up dumpsites or burn in
incinerators and generate toxic smoke.

We are the envy of the world and the clothes horses for extra large
sizes and candidates for angioplasty.

Our TV screens are cluttered up with ads for medications to make us
bounce along a beach, hand in hand, and the horrible possible side
effects must also be prominently displayed on the screen.

People think the new RAW food is oh so trendy when man subsisted on it
originally. Others aren't happy with the existing food oils, they have
to genetically modify rapseed with no concern for the fact that
changing one molecule can effect the others, but they don't know just
how. Kids think the best machines are the vending monsters in their
schools, funded for athletics by the soft drink companies.

The final insult is the legion of supermodels flaunting stick slender
figures floated by blobs of silicone as they prance down runways clad
in clothes that don't fit anyone but anorexics.

Peter Finch had the right idea in the Paddy Chayefsky movie about TV,
"Network".

Turn it off, turn it all off NOW!

(Shall I tell you how i really feel ? :-)

--
Diva
********
There Is No Triumph Without Loss!




--
jmk in NC

You hit on part of it. Peer pressure is killing us. We
have to grow up and learn not to do things just because
of what other people think.

Crafting Mom wrote:

Patricia Heil wrote:


So are we automatons who buy everything the TV tells us to buy?
Not me. I don't buy anything, literally or figuratively, until
I've checked it out for myself.

I don't own a tv, but lack of a television isn't a leakproof shield.
One would have to inhabit a cave in a distant land to avoid all the
pressure one gets.

I don't even have to BUY junk food or sweets or anything to have it
available as a staple in a diet grin. Just go to practically any
social setting, and tables are laden with cookies, cakes, potato chips,
sweets, soda pops all as social niceties that have been quite standard
for a long time.

I don't eat any of those things, but the constant pressure is certainly
there. And where I am, NOT eating those things makes you VERY
different. It's less of a hassle for me, because I'm content with being
very different, and don't have a threat of "but people will think you
are weird" hanging over my head, because I could care less.

That is helping me get back on the wagon. It's my body, and if people
are going to think I am weird, then so be it.

I agree. The parent has to take responsibility. The parents
of that school should be after the principal to change this.
But on the other hand, if the principal is under pressure from
the school board to put junk food machines in the cafeteria,
then it's a district problem and needs a different solution.

Crafting Mom wrote:

Brad Sheppard wrote:
Me, too - but the show pointed out that children believe commercials.
Junk food is the "normal" snack food for kids now. Other countries
have banned junk food ads aimed at children.

When my children attended public school - cupcakes, donuts, and candy
bars were often used as incentives to pay attention in class. A
substitute teacher in my son's class used that *daily*. It's no wonder
when I saw the boring presentation of the assignments. But still,
things like that should be the sole discretion of the PARENT, not the
teacher.

Ignoramus6480 wrote:
1. Did eating sugar make you feel worse objectively (other than
feeling guilty etc). Did you have headaches, wild appetite swings,
etc, things that can be measured?

It made me a) want more sugar, b) more depressed, c) energetic followed
by lethargic which made me a) .....


2. When you say that it is hard to get back on, what do you mean (not
having experienced this I do not understand). If you simply do not put
that stuff in your mouth, what happens?

Gradually, over time, the desire to eat it will diminish. It's happened
many times before, and it can happen again. The longer I go without,
the less the desire is there.

CM

"Perple Gyrl" wrote in message
news
I agree. However, I am not a parent but I am assuming that it is hard for
a
parent to monitor their kids 24/7 though.

The good news is that if you teach your children to have relatively good
eating habits, you don't need to monitor them 24/7. My 6 yr old daughter
packs her own lunch. She has a drawer and cupboard with things like
crackers, fruit leather, granola bars, etc. Then in the fridge I always
have a selection of hard boiled eggs, yogurt, fresh fruit, cheese sticks,
fruit cups, etc. She does a great job of packing her lunch. Her usual
breakfast is oatmeal, or toast and scrambled eggs.

Of course, we have pizza sometimes, eat oreo cookies and ice cream, etc. I
don't find it neccessary to eliminate that stuff from the house, but make
sure that eating is balanced most of the time.

Eating is an important aspect of health, but staying active is also very
important. I'm teaching my daughter to ski this year so that we will have a
family activity throughout the yucky weather months, and we all have
bicycles so we do alot of riding during the spring and summer too.

det

Peter Finch had the right idea in the Paddy Chayefsky movie about
TV,
"Network".

Turn it off, turn it all off NOW!

(Shall I tell you how i really feel ? :-)

--
Diva


and then he ran to the window, opened it and screamed:

"i'm not going to take it anymore!"