Low carb and endurance running -- results of my experiment

On 17 Sep 2004 14:15:47 GMT, Ignoramus474
wrote:

In article q5C2d.1$9l1.0@trndny09, Tony wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote in message ...
In article , PlacidBull wrote:
Here is an interesting article ... and interesting recipes too

http://www.fitnessandfreebies.com/lowcarb/exercise.html

thanks, good article and in line with my experience.


The article says moderate exercise. "Keep in mind however, you should avoid
high-intensity and high-duration exercise..." For me, running is *always*
high enough intensity that I need glycogen to help fuel it. Walking is

I used to need glycogen to run also!

You still do. Through training you can begin to use fat as your
primary fuel source for low to moderate intensity efforts.

I would run and by the end of half an hour run I would be extremely
tired.

I don't know what this has to do with a low carb diet. You are not
going to "bonk" or "hit the wall" after a half hour low intensity run.

Now, though, I run for 1 hour 35 minutes and I was not tired, my legs
were "as good as new".

Great, I certainly did not come into running immediately going for 90
minute runs without being tired, but after training and my body
adapting I certainly can now.

Again, I ran at low intensity.

That's good if you are on a low carb diet. However even the slimmest
of athletes have enough fat to burn to get them through any endurance
event. If you don't have carbs though all that fat stored on your
body is not going to do any good as fat is the wood and carbs are the
kindling.


I think that it was a fascinating experiment (for me anyway).

If you say so. Your conclusions of it are wrong.



i

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:42:00 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Donovan, this is cross posted to low carb folks. To agree with us is
tantamount to their diet is crock of ****. Save you energy, the LC folks
are like those still believing in the flat earth theory.

What exactly do you find so distasteful and invalid about low carb dieting?
Be specific.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:42:00 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Donovan, this is cross posted to low carb folks. To agree with us is
tantamount to their diet is crock of ****. Save you energy, the LC folks
are like those still believing in the flat earth theory.

What exactly do you find so distasteful and invalid about low carb dieting?
Be specific.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:42:00 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Donovan, this is cross posted to low carb folks. To agree with us is
tantamount to their diet is crock of ****. Save you energy, the LC folks
are like those still believing in the flat earth theory.

What exactly do you find so distasteful and invalid about low carb dieting?
Be specific.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:46:19 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Then you are living in a fantasy world or you haven't got any idea what
long distance running means. If you play this LC in a "long" race they
will take you out in a body bag if not put you on an IV with carbs to
keep you from dying.

Maybe some but I know many runners who "go the distance" on a low carb
intake.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:46:19 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Then you are living in a fantasy world or you haven't got any idea what
long distance running means. If you play this LC in a "long" race they
will take you out in a body bag if not put you on an IV with carbs to
keep you from dying.

Maybe some but I know many runners who "go the distance" on a low carb
intake.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:46:19 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Then you are living in a fantasy world or you haven't got any idea what
long distance running means. If you play this LC in a "long" race they
will take you out in a body bag if not put you on an IV with carbs to
keep you from dying.

Maybe some but I know many runners who "go the distance" on a low carb
intake.

"MU" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:42:00 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Donovan, this is cross posted to low carb folks. To agree with us is
tantamount to their diet is crock of ****. Save you energy, the LC
folks
are like those still believing in the flat earth theory.

What exactly do you find so distasteful and invalid about low carb
dieting?
Be specific.

Frankly it's a fad built on half truths to make money. Yes you lose
weight but you can lose weight with any eating regimen that restricts
calories. LC makes much about GI and GL as it's base which is smoke
mirrors. Exercise, eat balanced, avoid simple carbs like candy etc. use
some caloric control and you will lose weight.

My real annoyance comes from ignoramus(his name, not mine) trying to do
endurance running on a LC diet. It's like trying to add water to your
gas tank of your car to get more miles per tank of gas. Any eating
regimin that the exercising body rejects for insufficient fuel tells me
it is not healthy.

"MU" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:42:00 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Donovan, this is cross posted to low carb folks. To agree with us is
tantamount to their diet is crock of ****. Save you energy, the LC
folks
are like those still believing in the flat earth theory.

What exactly do you find so distasteful and invalid about low carb
dieting?
Be specific.

Frankly it's a fad built on half truths to make money. Yes you lose
weight but you can lose weight with any eating regimen that restricts
calories. LC makes much about GI and GL as it's base which is smoke
mirrors. Exercise, eat balanced, avoid simple carbs like candy etc. use
some caloric control and you will lose weight.

My real annoyance comes from ignoramus(his name, not mine) trying to do
endurance running on a LC diet. It's like trying to add water to your
gas tank of your car to get more miles per tank of gas. Any eating
regimin that the exercising body rejects for insufficient fuel tells me
it is not healthy.

"Doug Freese" wrote in message
...

"MU" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:42:00 GMT, Doug Freese wrote:

Donovan, this is cross posted to low carb folks. To agree with us is
tantamount to their diet is crock of ****. Save you energy, the LC folks
are like those still believing in the flat earth theory.

What exactly do you find so distasteful and invalid about low carb
dieting?
Be specific.

Frankly it's a fad built on half truths to make money. Yes you lose weight
but you can lose weight with any eating regimen that restricts calories.
LC makes much about GI and GL as it's base which is smoke mirrors.
Exercise, eat balanced, avoid simple carbs like candy etc. use some
caloric control and you will lose weight.

My real annoyance comes from ignoramus(his name, not mine) trying to do
endurance running on a LC diet. It's like trying to add water to your gas
tank of your car to get more miles per tank of gas. Any eating regimin
that the exercising body rejects for insufficient fuel tells me it is not
healthy.

(removing asdlc x-post out of courtesy to asd folks who are sick of those
x-posts)

Hang around ASD long enough and you'll find plenty of other annoyances from
the who calls himself ignoramus (and then gets upset when people agree
that's an appropriate name). He's been preaching LC forever now but only
doing it for a few months and doing a lot of crossposting between the ASD
and ASDLC groups which is mostly annoying to the ASD folks.

There are certainly valid medical reasons for low carbing. Those people
should probably take up a different hobby besides distance running or other
*endurance* sports. I initially thought I had to low carb due to insulin
resistance, but it turned out to be bull***t. All I had to do was change
the type of carbs and I do fine. I'm finding that now that my carbs are back
up to at least 120 a day I'm able to run again.

Jenn
not low carbing, just healthy carbing - and quite capable of reading asdlc
if I want LC info...