So slow.....

Hi,

Been low carbing again for the last month, and the weight loss is steady
but slow - around 1 pound per week.
I know - I know - this is good - but it never was this slow before I
fell off the wagon end of last year.

Especially annoyed as my TSH is .3 and free T4 over the top of the
scale, so am borderline hyperT - which I would have thought would help
with weight loss. Apparently not.
(makes me irritable and fuzzy headed and sleepless though)

Moan over - back to my 20g carbs a day and the anti candida diet (no
dairy or fruit or alcohol - just meat/fish and veggies/salad)

Martin

On Jan 26, 6:46*am, Martin Barrett wrote:
Hi,

Been low carbing again for the last month, and the weight loss is steady
but slow - around 1 pound per week.
I know - I know - this is good - but it never was this slow before I
fell off the wagon end of last year.

Especially annoyed as my TSH is .3 and free T4 over the top of the
scale, so am borderline hyperT - which I would have thought would help
with weight loss. Apparently not.
(makes me irritable and fuzzy headed and sleepless though)

Moan over - back to my 20g carbs a day and the anti candida diet (no
dairy or fruit or alcohol - just meat/fish and veggies/salad)

Martin


Imcreasing excercise has been known to work.

Martin Barrett wrote:

Been low carbing again for the last month, and the weight loss is steady
but slow - around 1 pound per week.
I know - I know - this is good ...

It may well be there's never been a dieter in history satisfied
with their rate of loss. Nah, there's gotta be someone out
there who is - I've just yet to encounter one in ten years of
low carbing ... ;^)

I think wanting faster than you can get is a part of the deal.
I also think that knowing that on an intellectual level helps
a little but when it comes down to it what helps is to stay
on plan and see lack of regain and new lows on a realistic
time cycle. No one likes realistic time scales but realistic
time scales are what actually happens.

- but it never was this slow before I
fell off the wagon end of last year.

I wonder how true that really is compared to the factors
that apply. Stuff like seeing the initial carb loss that
includes the water it was dissolved in, having more to lose
giving faster loss rates, being more willing to follow the
directions simply because that's what the book says to
do next ...

wrote:
Been low carbing again for the last month, and the weight loss is steady
but slow - around 1 pound per week.
I know - I know - this is good - but it never was this slow before I
fell off the wagon end of last year.

Especially annoyed as my TSH is .3 and free T4 over the top of the
scale, so am borderline hyperT - which I would have thought would help
with weight loss. Apparently not.
(makes me irritable and fuzzy headed and sleepless though)

Moan over - back to my 20g carbs a day and the anti candida diet (no
dairy or fruit or alcohol - just meat/fish and veggies/salad)

Too much fat in addition to those carbs might be stalling you. Try consuming
only lean protein in addition to cutting the carbs.

Orlando

On Jan 26, 2:07*pm, Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
wrote:
Been low carbing again for the last month, and the weight loss is steady
but slow - around 1 pound per week.
I know - I know - this is good - but it never was this slow before I
fell off the wagon end of last year.

Especially annoyed as my TSH is .3 and free T4 over the top of the
scale, so am borderline hyperT - which I would have thought would help
with weight loss. Apparently not.
(makes me irritable and fuzzy headed and sleepless though)

Moan over - back to my 20g carbs a day and the anti candida diet (no
dairy or fruit or alcohol - just meat/fish and veggies/salad)

Too much fat in addition to those carbs might be stalling you. Try consuming
only lean protein in addition to cutting the carbs.

Orlando

If that's the case, then how do you explain the concept of a fat fast,
which is a technique to break stalls, which Atkins recommended. Plus,
he's NOT even close to stalled. Also, curious concept going from
"too much fat" to consuming only lean protein, which would be zero
fat. I would also suggest that consuming only lean protein is a
prescription for trouble. Fat keeps you satiated. It was avoiding
fat and replacing it with carbs that made America fatter than ever.

Bottom line, what he's doing is working. He's losing a pound a
week. What the hell do you expect? No need to screw it up.

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

Too much fat in addition to those carbs might be stalling you. Try consuming
only lean protein in addition to cutting the carbs.

Bad advice - Not true while on low carb. So long as your
total calories are not out of line fat does not interfere with
loss while on low carb. No matter that you may think it
because it's obvious, obvious does not equal true.

Fat help suppress appetite - the form where it determines
how long befor ethe next time you get hungry rather than
the form that determines how full your stomach feels - and
hence it actually leads to eating lower total calories. Try
it and see.

There are also hormonal reasons that calorie for calorie fat
leads to better loss than protein. Going low in fat pushes
glucagon levels low and thus pushes low the rate fat is
withdrawn from storage. It's part of the old "fat fast"
experiment.

wrote:
Also, curious concept going from
"too much fat" to consuming only lean protein, which would be zero
fat. I would also suggest that consuming only lean protein is a
prescription for trouble. Fat keeps you satiated. It was avoiding
fat and replacing it with carbs that made America fatter than ever.

I never said zero fat; South Beach, which I prefer to Atkins, is almost like
induction during its first phase, except that only lean meats, eggs and
vegetable oils are permitted. This is mainly for people with astronomically
high cholesterol. Even lean meats and mono unsaturated vegetable oils satiate
just as much as animal or saturated fats. The true satiety comes from protein
anyway.

Orlando

"Orlando Enrique Fiol" wrote in message
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wrote:
Also, curious concept going from
"too much fat" to consuming only lean protein, which would be zero
fat. I would also suggest that consuming only lean protein is a
prescription for trouble. Fat keeps you satiated. It was avoiding
fat and replacing it with carbs that made America fatter than ever.

I never said zero fat; South Beach, which I prefer to Atkins, is almost
like
induction during its first phase, except that only lean meats, eggs and
vegetable oils are permitted. This is mainly for people with
astronomically
high cholesterol. Even lean meats and mono unsaturated vegetable oils
satiate
just as much as animal or saturated fats. The true satiety comes from
protein
anyway.

Orlando

What does

"Too much fat in addition to those carbs might be stalling you. Try
consuming
only lean protein in addition to cutting the carbs."

mean? It did sound as if you're saying "no fat".

How does one eat only protein anyway? Protein powder? Yuck.

On Jan 27, 1:14*am, Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
wrote:
Also, curious concept going from
"too much fat" to consuming only lean protein, which would be zero
fat. * I would also suggest that consuming only lean protein is a
prescription for trouble. * Fat keeps you satiated. *It was avoiding
fat and replacing it with carbs that made America fatter than ever.

I never said zero fat; South Beach, which I prefer to Atkins, is almost like
induction during its first phase, except that only lean meats, eggs and
vegetable oils are permitted.

You didn't say zero fat, but you did say that in addition to cutting
carbs, to eat only lean protein. That would seem to exclude the
vegetable oil and eggs. Somehow I don't think your above statement is
what you really mean either, as I think SB's first phase is more than
just that short list.



This is mainly for people with astronomically
high cholesterol.

Which has what to do with Martin's issue? It's pretty well
established that dietary cholesterol isn't very well corelated to
serum cholesterol. For example, most people switching to Atkins see
their total cholesterol numbers either stay the same or improve, while
HDL rises. This while eating more animal fats. I think in the real
world dietary restrictions have to be so severe to make a significant
change in serum chol, that from a practical sense, it just doesn't
work.


Even lean meats and mono unsaturated vegetable oils satiate
just as much as animal or saturated fats. The true satiety comes from protein
anyway.

Orlando

Which could you eat more of? Turkey breast or butter? And if you
want to now include veg oils, how does that square with telling him to
eat only lean protein?

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Which could you eat more of? Turkey breast or butter?

I'd enjoy turkey breasts much more than thinly disguised or straight butter.
Some people get off on fat, though.

And if you want to now include veg oils, how does that square with telling him
to eat only lean protein?

I only mentioned lean protein as an alternative to the fat fast he was
proposing. Low carb doesn't necessarily equate to high saturated fat; it's just
a question of what you want to replace the carbs. Some prefer to eat absurd
amounts of green vegetables instead of carbs.

Orlando