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Old April 4th, 2007, 08:55 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Bob in CT[_2_]
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Is there anything worthwhile in this book? I've begun rereading the book,
and I just can't seem to get past his condescending attitude (Atkins
sucked). Nor can I believe that I need 5grams of carbs per every two sets
at the gym. Nor do I think I'll be on a cyclic ketogenic diet. What else
is there in this book?

--
Bob in CT
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Old April 4th, 2007, 09:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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Bob in CT wrote:
:: Is there anything worthwhile in this book? I've begun rereading the
:: book, and I just can't seem to get past his condescending attitude
:: (Atkins sucked). Nor can I believe that I need 5grams of carbs per
:: every two sets at the gym. Nor do I think I'll be on a cyclic
:: ketogenic diet. What else is there in this book?
::
:: --
:: Bob in CT

There's a lot of good stuff in the book. However, you may not be it's
intended audience. Most people DO NOT need a CKD and I don't think Lyle is
trying to sell it to most, either. Whether or not anyone needs a TKD depends
greatly on how hard one trains, and not everyone works out at the same
intensity.

Frankly, I don't recall an "Atkins sucked" attitude (he did have some
science wrong), though Lyle pretty much thinks everyone sucks, including
him.


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Old April 4th, 2007, 10:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Bob in CT[_2_]
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:15:28 -0400, Roger Zoul
wrote:

Bob in CT wrote:
:: Is there anything worthwhile in this book? I've begun rereading the
:: book, and I just can't seem to get past his condescending attitude
:: (Atkins sucked). Nor can I believe that I need 5grams of carbs per
:: every two sets at the gym. Nor do I think I'll be on a cyclic
:: ketogenic diet. What else is there in this book?
::
:: --
:: Bob in CT

There's a lot of good stuff in the book. However, you may not be it's
intended audience. Most people DO NOT need a CKD and I don't think Lyle
is
trying to sell it to most, either. Whether or not anyone needs a TKD
depends
greatly on how hard one trains, and not everyone works out at the same
intensity.

Frankly, I don't recall an "Atkins sucked" attitude (he did have some
science wrong), though Lyle pretty much thinks everyone sucks, including
him.



Perhaps Atkins sucked is an over generalization. However, I remember
reading the book and basically getting very little out of it. I'm
rereading it and wondering why. I think that a TKD is beneficial, even
for me. But he tends to concentrate on lifting, which I do, just not that
much.

--
Bob in CT
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Old April 4th, 2007, 10:22 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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Default The Ketogenic Diet

Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:15:28 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: Is there anything worthwhile in this book? I've begun rereading
::::: the book, and I just can't seem to get past his condescending
::::: attitude (Atkins sucked). Nor can I believe that I need 5grams
::::: of carbs per every two sets at the gym. Nor do I think I'll be
::::: on a cyclic ketogenic diet. What else is there in this book?
:::::
::::: --
::::: Bob in CT
:::
::: There's a lot of good stuff in the book. However, you may not be
::: it's intended audience. Most people DO NOT need a CKD and I don't
::: think Lyle is
::: trying to sell it to most, either. Whether or not anyone needs a TKD
::: depends
::: greatly on how hard one trains, and not everyone works out at the
::: same intensity.
:::
::: Frankly, I don't recall an "Atkins sucked" attitude (he did have
::: some science wrong), though Lyle pretty much thinks everyone sucks,
::: including him.
:::
:::
::
:: Perhaps Atkins sucked is an over generalization. However, I remember
:: reading the book and basically getting very little out of it. I'm
:: rereading it and wondering why. I think that a TKD is beneficial,
:: even for me. But he tends to concentrate on lifting, which I do,
:: just not that much.
::

I think the book was written for those who wanted to bulk up and then cut,
cut, cut to get in "show" shape. Those guys expend a LOT of energy in a
workout, and hence the CKD (especially) and the TKD made a lot of sense. I
too think the TKD can be very useful for a lot of use more casual
exercisers, but the CKD should be used only by those with the most serious
of intentions.

:: --
:: Bob in CT


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Old April 5th, 2007, 02:02 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
jcderkoeing
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The book was not written for idiots, so try something easier.

HTH


"Bob in CT" wrote in message
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Is there anything worthwhile in this book? I've begun rereading the book,
and I just can't seem to get past his condescending attitude (Atkins
sucked). Nor can I believe that I need 5grams of carbs per every two sets
at the gym. Nor do I think I'll be on a cyclic ketogenic diet. What else
is there in this book?

--
Bob in CT



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Old April 5th, 2007, 09:06 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Mu
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:15:28 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote:

Frankly, I don't recall an "Atkins sucked" attitude


Frankly, Zoulie, your memory sux, he cut Atkins into shreds.
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Old April 13th, 2007, 09:21 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Mu
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:11:29 -0400, Bob in CT wrote:

Perhaps Atkins sucked is an over generalization. However, I remember
reading the book and basically getting very little out of it. I'm
rereading it and wondering why.

--
Bob in CT


Bob Atkins claims he was a scientist, he knowingly lied to make mega
$$$, he used the cloak of being a scientist, he was and is a fraud.
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Old April 13th, 2007, 11:38 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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I can't believe Atkins is still being bashed after all these years. WOW.
Nothing better to do?

"Mu" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:11:29 -0400, Bob in CT wrote:

Perhaps Atkins sucked is an over generalization. However, I remember
reading the book and basically getting very little out of it. I'm
rereading it and wondering why.

--
Bob in CT


Bob Atkins claims he was a scientist, he knowingly lied to make mega
$$$, he used the cloak of being a scientist, he was and is a fraud.



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Old April 13th, 2007, 07:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Mu
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:38:12 -0400, 2Phat wrote:

I can't believe Atkins is still being bashed after all these years. WOW.
Nothing better to do?


Atkins died, his influence didn't.
 




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