refeed and time off = lower BF and weight

Well - who says refeeds and time off for good behavior aren't good
parts of a good diet plan.

After weeks of struggling since adding some weight last summer, This
weekend I took time off from exercise (skipped Thursday's workout) and
time off from watching what I ate. (indulged in multiple pieces of
pizza and other foods) and when I stepped on the scale today it
appears to have dropped another 4lbs and bodyfat %.

:-)

We'll see if it sticks around or not. Then again, I got a bike ride
in last night, but skipped my workout this morning. This 4:30am
thing is really starting to wear on me. My lifestyle just does not
permit me to get to bed before 10pm, and only getting 5hrs of sleep or
so is hard when you are working out. My body just needs some rest.

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:39:00 GMT, (Jayjay) wrote:

Well - who says time off for good behavior aren't good
parts of a good diet plan.

Me.

After weeks of struggling since adding some weight last summer,

Note this.

This
weekend I took time off time off from watching what I ate. (indulged in multiple pieces of
pizza and other foods) ...

This whole idea or "rewarding oneself" with "special" foods (most
often these are foods high in sat fat, calorically dense and low in
nutritional value per cal consumed) is indicative of a convoluted
thinking and approach to food in the first place.

This thought process comes from the"I''m denying myself" attitude
toward dieting and does not reflect a more appropriate philosophy of
"I choose to eat less and eat well, nothing denied at all"

Note how JJ "struggles" with her diet. Wanna bet how long she can put
up the struggle? It's only a matter of time.

If you find yourself in a struggle, you'd better find another attitude
toward food and another WOE....quick. You are doomed to failure.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap031011.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

I guess that m__n over, strikes a cord with me. I'm in a struggle that
really sounds like this one JJ is speaking about. I'm feeling a pressure
I'm not certain of with my day today. I mean in my eating plus control
there-of. I'mtalking to me a LOT today. trying to keep with this! Was it
maybe Smokey OR Ron who said that 'to string enough days together will
cause success' OR something like that. I'm trying to decide HOW to keep
with my WOE/WOL !!

glo

"Jayjay" wrote in message
...
Well - who says refeeds and time off for good behavior aren't good
parts of a good diet plan.

After weeks of struggling since adding some weight last summer, This
weekend I took time off from exercise (skipped Thursday's workout) and
time off from watching what I ate. (indulged in multiple pieces of
pizza and other foods) and when I stepped on the scale today it
appears to have dropped another 4lbs and bodyfat %.

struggling with that right now - hoping to drop some fat myself...
Congratulations!

det

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:39:00 GMT, (Jayjay) wrote:

Well - who says refeeds and time off for good behavior aren't good
parts of a good diet plan.

What diet plan are you on?

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:53:57 -0400, M_un Over Seattle
wrote:

Well - who says time off for good behavior aren't good
parts of a good diet plan.

Me.

I take a different view of this. I find it easier to say no to the
pizza or the donuts the boss buys if I tell myself that all I have to
do is wait for the weekend and I can have all the pizza and donuts I
want. However, come the weekend I find I really don't want to pig out
on pizza and donuts.

So for me at least, "never saying never" when it comes to food helps
me stick to a plan.

--
Ron Ritzman
http://www.panix.com/~ritzlart
Smart people can figure out my email address

"Kathleen Kelly" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:39:00 GMT, (Jayjay) wrote:

Well - who says refeeds and time off for good behavior aren't good
parts of a good diet plan.

What diet plan are you on?


I'm not really on any plan. And I'm certainly not following any mainstream
"Diet" that has some name. I'm more or less at maintenance - well within
acceptable weight range for BMI and bodyfat. When I put on a few lbs I
usually take them off by cutting calories (mainly carbs - sugar, junk food,
etc) and heavier cardio workouts. A normal day of food for me will be
something like:
Breakfast - 300 cals - examples: protein shake, oatmeal, power bar and
fruit, cottage cheese or yogurt
Lunch - 400 cals - salad and protein source
Mid afternoon - 100 cal - fruit or something "sweet"
Dinner - 400 cals - protein source and vegetables
Evening snack - 100 cals fruit or something sweet (splenda is my friend)

"Ron Ritzman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:53:57 -0400, M_un Over Seattle
wrote:

Well - who says time off for good behavior aren't good
parts of a good diet plan.

Me.

I take a different view of this. I find it easier to say no to the
pizza or the donuts the boss buys if I tell myself that all I have to
do is wait for the weekend and I can have all the pizza and donuts I
want. However, come the weekend I find I really don't want to pig out
on pizza and donuts.

So for me at least, "never saying never" when it comes to food helps
me stick to a plan.


I take a similar approach - although if I want pizza, I'll have one slice
and a salad. Usually I go out for lunch on Monday's w/ the gang at work,
and someone will get a medium pizza (thin crust). The joint we go to cuts
pizza into square slices (12 squares and 4 little triangles). I'llusually
just take a small triangle. Or, if I'm feeling hungry, I'll get a slice
(normal sized) and a salad. But Friday night this week we decided to have
pizza for dinner at the house. I had 2 pieces. that was my indulgence.
It wasn't anything extrodinary. But it was more than usual. Oh, and then
I had another slice for lunch on Saturday.

"Jayjay" wrote in message
...

We'll see if it sticks around or not. Then again, I got a bike ride
in last night, but skipped my workout this morning. This 4:30am
thing is really starting to wear on me. My lifestyle just does not
permit me to get to bed before 10pm, and only getting 5hrs of sleep or
so is hard when you are working out. My body just needs some rest.

That's exactly what I've been going through the last month or so - trying to
get by on 5 hours of sleep a night in order to keep up with my early AM
workouts and a lifestyle that keeps me busy until late into the evening. I
finally had a serious crash and burn this weekend, sleeping 12 hours on
Saturday night. I decided last Friday that somethings are definitely going
to change, starting with the number of hours I put into my job. If stuff
keeps up the way it has been, I'll be "working to contract" soon which will
free me up quite considerably.

Jenn

On 21 Oct 2003 01:16:14 GMT, Ignoramus13873
wrote:

To me, refeeds are a very strange idea. It must be difficult to work
on losing weight etc knowing that much of my efforts will be negated
by some "refeed"?

Actually, "refeeds" are mostly beneficial to those who aren't really
fat (think models and bodybuilders trying to go from 15% to 8% body
fat) or those who are only moderately overweight. It's a way of
creating a net calorie deficit but trick the body into not going into
starvation mode and releasing a ****load of cortisol.

Except for some possible psychological benefits, they really aren't
needed for the obese until they start to approach a normal weight.

--
Ron Ritzman
http://www.panix.com/~ritzlart
Smart people can figure out my email address