Atkins died obese and with heart disease

You think that people who are obese are funny? I think that it's ironic
-- but amusing? It sounds like a lot of it was water weight but I'm
guessing all 75 pounds above the so-called normal range was not water.

Why do they call it the range "normal" if over half of the population is
above that range?

On 2/10/2004 9:59 AM, Ignoramus15221 wrote:
for your information, very amusing

i

In article , Dan J. S. wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/10....ap/index.html



Paper: Diet guru Atkins qualified as obese



NEW YORK (AP) -- Dr. Robert Atkins, whose popular diet stresses protein-rich
meat and cheese over carbohydrates, weighed 258 pounds at his death and had
a history of heart disease, a newspaper reported Tuesday.

Atkins died last April at age 72 after being injured in a fall on an icy
street.

Before his death, he had suffered a heart attack, congestive heart failure
and hypertension, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing a report by the
city medical examiner.

At 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's body-mass
index calculator.

Diet is one potential factor in heart disease, but infections also can
contribute to it.

Stuart Trager, chairman of the Atkins Physicians Council in New York, told
the Journal that Atkins' heart disease stemmed from cardiomyopathy, a
condition thought to result from a viral infection.

Atkins' weight was due to bloating associated with his condition, and he had
been much slimmer during most of his life, Trager said.

Atkins widow outraged
The medical examiner's report was given to the Journal by the Physicians
Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group that advocates vegetarianism.
The medical examiner's office told the Journal that the report had been sent
to the group in error.

There was no immediate response Tuesday to a call seeking additional comment
from the medical examiner's office.

The diet guru's widow, Veronica Atkins, was outraged that the report had
been made public.

"I have been assured by my husband's physicians that my husband's health
problems late in life were completely unrelated to his diet or any diet,"
she told the Journal.

Last month, Veronica Atkins demanded an apology from Mayor Michael Bloomberg
after Bloomberg called her late husband "fat."

In April 2002, Atkins issued a statement saying he was recovering from
cardiac arrest related to a heart infection he had suffered from "for a few
years." He said it was "in no way related to diet."





--
jmk in NC

jmk wrote:

You think that people who are obese are funny?

It was released by that lunatic PETA sponsored group PCRM. With
the good doctor dead, they are dancing on his grave. It's dispicable.

Atkins died last April at age 72 after being injured in a fall on an icy
street.

Right. A smashed head is a result of diet? Sure thing.

Stuart Trager, chairman of the Atkins Physicians Council in New York, told
the Journal that Atkins' heart disease stemmed from cardiomyopathy, a
condition thought to result from a viral infection.

He took a trip up the Amazon and caught a virus. That's a result
of diet? Sure thing.

Atkins' weight was due to bloating associated with his condition, and he had
been much slimmer during most of his life, Trager said.

Bingo.

Atkins widow outraged

She should be.

The medical examiner's report was given to the Journal by the Physicians
Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group that advocates vegetarianism.
The medical examiner's office told the Journal that the report had been sent
to the group in error.

Chuckle. In error my low carb butt.

your all " jumping the gun" here........................the NEW YORK
TIMES article is not correct.
--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

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"Ignoramus15221" wrote in
message ...
In article , jmk
wrote:
You think that people who are obese are funny?

Well, what I think is funny is how Atkins family was hiding Dr
Atkins
condition. See another thread in alt.support.diet.low-carb about
that.

I think that it's ironic guessing all 75 pounds above the
so-called
normal range was not water.

I am not sure what you mean exactly, but I will repeat what I just
wrote in alt.support.diet.low-carb:

The fact that no one disputes is that Atkins died being very
overweight and having a heart disease.


A typical cause of it is, well, obesity, adiposity, high
cholesterol,
etc.

His family, having much money at stake, is now claiming that his
"bloating" and hypertension and heart problems were caused by some
unusual problem such as some virus.

That same family is engaging in fraudulent behavior in other
areas,
such as selling fake zero carb junk food bars.

The burden of proof is really on them if they want me to believe
an
unusual cause over a more typical cause. I am sure that if they
are
telling the truth, they would have no problems finding authentic
medical documents with his contemporary diagnoses, as well as
publishing the autopsy results.


Why do they call it the range "normal" if over half of the
population is
above that range?

I heard that range referred to as "healthy".

i

Wall Street Journal?

rosie wrote:
your all " jumping the gun" here........................the NEW YORK
TIMES article is not correct.

--
jmk in NC

The liars are the left are at it again. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/yryup

Or if anyone prefers the original link:

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...www/story/02-1
0-2004/0002106789&EDATE=


Excerpt:

"The late Dr. Robert Atkins is being smeared for his alleged
obesity at the time of his death, by a phony doctors organiz-
ation that has been exposed as a front group for People for
the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) and has been censured
by the American Medical Association (AMA)."

I'm so sick of those nutcase wacko bunny-huggers.

Martha

"jmk" wrote in message
...
You think that people who are obese are funny? I think that it's ironic
-- but amusing? It sounds like a lot of it was water weight but I'm
guessing all 75 pounds above the so-called normal range was not water.

Why do they call it the range "normal" if over half of the population is
above that range?

On 2/10/2004 9:59 AM, Ignoramus15221 wrote:
for your information, very amusing

i

In article , Dan J. S. wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/10....ap/index.html



Paper: Diet guru Atkins qualified as obese



NEW YORK (AP) -- Dr. Robert Atkins, whose popular diet stresses
protein-rich
meat and cheese over carbohydrates, weighed 258 pounds at his death and
had
a history of heart disease, a newspaper reported Tuesday.

Atkins died last April at age 72 after being injured in a fall on an icy
street.

Before his death, he had suffered a heart attack, congestive heart
failure
and hypertension, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing a report by
the
city medical examiner.

At 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's body-mass
index calculator.

Diet is one potential factor in heart disease, but infections also can
contribute to it.

Stuart Trager, chairman of the Atkins Physicians Council in New York,
told
the Journal that Atkins' heart disease stemmed from cardiomyopathy, a
condition thought to result from a viral infection.

Atkins' weight was due to bloating associated with his condition, and he
had
been much slimmer during most of his life, Trager said.

Atkins widow outraged
The medical examiner's report was given to the Journal by the Physicians
Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group that advocates
vegetarianism.
The medical examiner's office told the Journal that the report had been
sent
to the group in error.

There was no immediate response Tuesday to a call seeking additional
comment
from the medical examiner's office.

The diet guru's widow, Veronica Atkins, was outraged that the report had
been made public.

"I have been assured by my husband's physicians that my husband's health
problems late in life were completely unrelated to his diet or any
diet,"
she told the Journal.

Last month, Veronica Atkins demanded an apology from Mayor Michael
Bloomberg
after Bloomberg called her late husband "fat."

In April 2002, Atkins issued a statement saying he was recovering from
cardiac arrest related to a heart infection he had suffered from "for a
few
years." He said it was "in no way related to diet."





--
jmk in NC

No, it's not. Ignorant, is his haste to put down something he doesn't like
(or that doesn't agree with him) is now rooting for PETA! I always knew he
was a nutjob.

Martha

" rosie" wrote in message
...
your all " jumping the gun" here........................the NEW YORK
TIMES article is not correct.
--
read and post daily, it works!
rosie

Congress has the power to censure the President -- to formally
reprimand him for his betrayal of the nation's trust. If ever there
was a time to use this function, it is now. Join the call for
Congress to censure President Bush now at:
http://www.moveon.org/censure/?id=-1...sXUubaCq5RHn6g



"Ignoramus15221" wrote in
message ...
In article , jmk
wrote:
You think that people who are obese are funny?

Well, what I think is funny is how Atkins family was hiding Dr
Atkins
condition. See another thread in alt.support.diet.low-carb about
that.

I think that it's ironic guessing all 75 pounds above the
so-called
normal range was not water.

I am not sure what you mean exactly, but I will repeat what I just
wrote in alt.support.diet.low-carb:

The fact that no one disputes is that Atkins died being very
overweight and having a heart disease.


A typical cause of it is, well, obesity, adiposity, high
cholesterol,
etc.

His family, having much money at stake, is now claiming that his
"bloating" and hypertension and heart problems were caused by some
unusual problem such as some virus.

That same family is engaging in fraudulent behavior in other
areas,
such as selling fake zero carb junk food bars.

The burden of proof is really on them if they want me to believe
an
unusual cause over a more typical cause. I am sure that if they
are
telling the truth, they would have no problems finding authentic
medical documents with his contemporary diagnoses, as well as
publishing the autopsy results.


Why do they call it the range "normal" if over half of the
population is
above that range?

I heard that range referred to as "healthy".

i

I'm so sick of those nutcase wacko bunny-huggers.

Martha



AMEN!