The Opposite View of the Atkins Diet

It's interesting and disturbing what other medical professionals think
of the diet. I've changed my life for the better with the Atkins
approach and supplemental vita-nutrients.

Your opinions please:

http://www.atkinsexposed.org/

wrote:
It's interesting and disturbing what other medical professionals think
of the diet. I've changed my life for the better with the Atkins
approach and supplemental vita-nutrients.

Your opinions please:

http://www.atkinsexposed.org/


What do you expect from a website run by a guy with a vegetarian agenda?

From the website vegetarianbaby.com:

"Michael Greger, M.D. is a general practitioner specializing in
VEGETARIAN NUTRITION, a prize-winning cook, and an internationally
recognized speaker on a number of important public health and social
justice issues. He is author of Heart Failu Diary of a Third Year
Medical Student and has contributed to a number of books on VEGANISM
and food safety issues. " -EMPHASIS ADDED
http://www.vegetarianbaby.com/writers.shtml


From atkinsexposed.org:
"Michael Greger, M.D., is a general practitioner, a founding member of
the American College of Lifestyle Medicine, and an internationally
recognized lecturer on nutrition and food safety issues. He has been
invited to lecture at countless universities, medical schools and
conferences around the world, including the 2004 Conference on World
Affairs. Dr. Greger is a graduate of the Cornell University School of
Agriculture and the Tufts University School of Medicine."
http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/19/About_Us.htm

The odd thing is that Dr. Greger makes no mention of his
vegetarian/vegan beliefs on atkinsexposed.org. He simply attacks the
two leading LC diets, Atkins and South Beach, without offering an
alternative. The alternative might be on offer in his newsletter, but
based on his other publications, could be assumed to be vegetarian in
nature, probably along the Ornish solution.

I'm not going to say that that simply won't work, but it will not work
as fast for as many people and produce as many good results as a
carbohydrate restricted intervention teamed with a balanced level of
protein and carbohydrates in maintenance. The research is fairly
abundant on this.

Lastly, with each passing week, there is more support for a
carbohydrate restricted lifestyle from the research community. This
week, check the scathing rip fest of the American Diabetic Association
in Men's Health. And this is a publication that recommends fat/caloric
restriction towards health.

In short, the people behind your site have an unbalanced, possibly
unhealthy agenda and will likely stop at nothing to promote it and
eliminate alternatives that may be better.


wrote:
It's interesting and disturbing what other medical professionals think
of the diet. I've changed my life for the better with the Atkins
approach and supplemental vita-nutrients.

Your opinions please:

http://www.atkinsexposed.org/

On 3 Dec 2006 08:29:15 -0800, "
wrote:

It's interesting and disturbing what other medical professionals think
of the diet. I've changed my life for the better with the Atkins
approach and supplemental vita-nutrients.

Your opinions please:

http://www.atkinsexposed.org/

Atkins Kills

On 3 Dec 2006 08:29:15 -0800 " wrote:
It's interesting and disturbing what other medical professionals think
of the diet. I've changed my life for the better with the Atkins
approach and supplemental vita-nutrients.

Your opinions please:

http://www.atkinsexposed.org/

It's interesting to read the section on the website called "Long
Term Side Effects". The website manages to associate features of
the Atkins diet with many of the medical problems that show up with
aging. Ketosis in particular gets linked to poisonous effects.
[Yes, an alternative is presented - a "healthy" vegetarian diet.]

Do read both the advocates and the detractors of a way of eating -
that will keep one better informed. The website says that weight
loss is almost certainly caused by fewer calories, which "since on
Atkins so many foods are taboo, people end up eating less"; and
more generally: "the carbohydrate content of the diet seemed in
no way correlated with weight loss". Also, the website disputes
the diet's claimed carbohydrate--insulin relation by quoting
from a study: "consistent pattern of higher fasting insulin
levels with intake of high-fat, low-carbohydrate diets".


In my opinion, the evaluation of how the foods eaten affect one's
body is an individual's responsibility. It seems to me that if a
particular action, followed up in 1000 subjects, might be shown
to have resulted in the catastrophic deterioration of least one of
them, no medical professional would dare to recommend that action
to a general population, no matter what its benefit to the other
subjects.

Make up your own mind, even if others reason differently.


mikus

Hollywood wrote:
From the website vegetarianbaby.com:

"Michael Greger, M.D. is a general practitioner specializing in
VEGETARIAN NUTRITION, a prize-winning cook, and an internationally
recognized speaker on a number of important public health and social
justice issues. He is author of Heart Failu Diary of a Third Year
Medical Student and has contributed to a number of books on VEGANISM
and food safety issues. " -EMPHASIS ADDED
http://www.vegetarianbaby.com/writers.shtml


From atkinsexposed.org:
"Michael Greger, M.D., is a general practitioner, a founding member of
the American College of Lifestyle Medicine, and an internationally
recognized lecturer on nutrition and food safety issues. He has been
invited to lecture at countless universities, medical schools and
conferences around the world, including the 2004 Conference on World
Affairs. Dr. Greger is a graduate of the Cornell University School of
Agriculture and the Tufts University School of Medicine."
http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/19/About_Us.htm

The odd thing is that Dr. Greger makes no mention of his
vegetarian/vegan beliefs on atkinsexposed.org. He simply attacks the
two leading LC diets, Atkins and South Beach, without offering an
alternative.


It's not odd. I'd call it dishonest. Before telling people what is
good or bad for them, he should at least tell them his overall beliefs
and approach.



The alternative might be on offer in his newsletter, but
based on his other publications, could be assumed to be vegetarian in
nature, probably along the Ornish solution.

I'm not going to say that that simply won't work, but it will not work
as fast for as many people and produce as many good results as a
carbohydrate restricted intervention teamed with a balanced level of
protein and carbohydrates in maintenance. The research is fairly
abundant on this.

Lastly, with each passing week, there is more support for a
carbohydrate restricted lifestyle from the research community. This
week, check the scathing rip fest of the American Diabetic Association
in Men's Health. And this is a publication that recommends fat/caloric
restriction towards health.

In short, the people behind your site have an unbalanced, possibly
unhealthy agenda and will likely stop at nothing to promote it and
eliminate alternatives that may be better.


wrote:
It's interesting and disturbing what other medical professionals think
of the diet. I've changed my life for the better with the Atkins
approach and supplemental vita-nutrients.

Your opinions please:

http://www.atkinsexposed.org/

wrote:
Hollywood wrote:
The odd thing is that Dr. Greger makes no mention of his
vegetarian/vegan beliefs on atkinsexposed.org. He simply attacks the
two leading LC diets, Atkins and South Beach, without offering an
alternative.


It's not odd. I'd call it dishonest. Before telling people what is
good or bad for them, he should at least tell them his overall beliefs
and approach.

It is odd. Or at least it would be if they were honest and coming at it
from a neutral corner. I think I left it in a way that could leave it
open for interpretation, with the most logical, simplest explanation
that someone is monkeying with the truth.

-Hollywood, suggesting your arrival at the right conclusion proves it
was phrased well afterall.

Hollywood wrote:
wrote:
Hollywood wrote:
The odd thing is that Dr. Greger makes no mention of his
vegetarian/vegan beliefs on atkinsexposed.org. He simply attacks the
two leading LC diets, Atkins and South Beach, without offering an
alternative.


It's not odd. I'd call it dishonest. Before telling people what is
good or bad for them, he should at least tell them his overall beliefs
and approach.

It is odd. Or at least it would be if they were honest and coming at it
from a neutral corner. I think I left it in a way that could leave it
open for interpretation, with the most logical, simplest explanation
that someone is monkeying with the truth.

Yes, and I'm not willing to give the skunk the benefit of the doubt.




-Hollywood, suggesting your arrival at the right conclusion proves it
was phrased well afterall.