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Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
CyberDroog wrote:
On 7 Apr 2007 06:36:13 -0700, "bob&carole" wrote: On Apr 7, 8:24?am, CyberDroog wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:48:36 -0400, 4s00th wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 10:58:56 -0500, Ivan Marsh wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 05:54:52 -0700, bobandcarole wrote: On Apr 6, 4:05?am, CyberDroog wrote: WRONG. ut I ain't about to belabour the point with some rabid fundie who doesn't know the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia And I ain't about to belabour the point with some Cyber k00k with repressed pedophilic tendencies. ...and, therefore, a homosexual... even if you only molest girls. forgive bo0by&crawler -- he assumes that anyone who disagrees with his decrees is either gay, a pedophile, a heathen or some combination of the above. In these toilets it's a very good possibility Or possibly a "wetback" -- he doesn't like them too much either. Know any beaner jokes? Oh, and "****s!" You'd think a good heterosexual christian like him would have more reverence for ****s! We all know one when we see one...****. You ****ed up the quoting again. Get a clue. Oh, and thanks for giving us all an illustration of what kind of person Jesus really is. He hates Mexicans, he calls women ****s, etc. I forget, what is the Aramaic word for ****? al-Qunta. |
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Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
On Apr 7, 1:09?pm, Noon Cat Nick
wrote: CyberDroog wrote: On 7 Apr 2007 06:36:13 -0700, "bob&carole" wrote: On Apr 7, 8:24?am, CyberDroog wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:48:36 -0400, 4s00th wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 10:58:56 -0500, Ivan Marsh wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 05:54:52 -0700, bobandcarole wrote: On Apr 6, 4:05?am, CyberDroog wrote: WRONG. ut I ain't about to belabour the point with some rabid fundie who doesn't know the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia And I ain't about to belabour the point with some Cyber k00k with repressed pedophilic tendencies. ...and, therefore, a homosexual... even if you only molest girls. forgive bo0by&crawler -- he assumes that anyone who disagrees with his decrees is either gay, a pedophile, a heathen or some combination of the above. In these toilets it's a very good possibility Or possibly a "wetback" -- he doesn't like them too much either. Know any beaner jokes? Oh, and "****s!" You'd think a good heterosexual christian like him would have more reverence for ****s! We all know one when we see one...****. You ****ed up the quoting again. Get a clue. Oh, and thanks for giving us all an illustration of what kind of person Jesus really is. He hates Mexicans, he calls women ****s, etc. I forget, what is the Aramaic word for ****? al-Qunta. The Arabic word for pedophile is "Allah" |
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Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
On Apr 7, 5:40?pm, CyberDroog wrote:
On 7 Apr 2007 12:34:48 -0700, "bobandcarole" wrote: The Arabic word for pedophile is "Allah" The English word for moron is "Christian". Allah is a kiddie****er God as is his worthless **** boy muhammad: From the Quran: Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Sahih Bukhari Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it." From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 : A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister. [...] It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. How it all began ( a long time ago in the isolated deserts of Arabia) : Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr, Mohammad's closest friend and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union with her [Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his dreams, inspite of the fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps you want to assume that it is "normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child, and then ACTUALLY ask for her hand at 6? Is it normal for an oversexed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and concubines) to dream of a union with a 4-5 year old girl? Muhammad ( SAW ) was basically oversexed, his sexual relationship with Aisha is a special case, which fits his strong need for a larger latitude to satisfy his sexual urge, as is witnessed by: "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven)." [Bukhari. 1:268] When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her hand. Abu Bakr thought it was improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed aside Abu Bakr's reservation by saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref: SAHIH BUKHAR I7:18]. What happened to " there is no compulsion in matters of religion ?" Anyway what compulsion did Muhhammad need being a prophet his word was law, he restricted men to only four wives when he himself had more than four, that was a convenient exemption for Muhhammad. So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9, the marriage was consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI 1991:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] . The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at that time Aisha had contracted some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Aisha was then socially and psychologically still a child as is evidenced by the fact that she was still given to her toys, she was unaware of what was happening around her, and her playmates behave as would the children at present times [Sahih Bukhari 8:151,5:234]. Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was predominant [ SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd 1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to be called the "mother of believers". If you are wandering, yes, the relationship was pedophilic. When did the sexual relations between Prophet Mohammad and his child bride begin? Unfortunately we do not have any video recordings of such events. Neither can we expect that there would be any explicit statements regarding this. In any case it is certain that she had NOT reached puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house, which in itself, contrary to the prevailing social norms, is a tacit implication that he may indulge in whatever fantasies he may have had when he asked for Aisha's hand. And Muhammad did have fantasies. Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, BUT the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) It is, however, very unlikely that Muhammad would have waited for the onset of the menses; or at most it could have been just after the 1st drops. The evidence is necessarily indirect. # His strong desire to "graze of the (tree) of which nothing has been eaten before", as his other wives had not been virgins. # Menses or fasting do not reduce Muhammad's desire and potency for sex. His nightly rounds to his wives(lastly 12-13) did require more than average potency. # New additions to his harem lead to intensive sexual activity, e.g. arrival of Maria lead to increased, initial spurt of sexual activity to the neglect of others . # The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it." # Other wives try to please Muhammad by sacrificing their turns in favor of Aisha. # During his last fatal illness he cries: "Where will I be tomorrow? Where will I be tomorrow?", seeking Aisha's turn. Prophet Say: Marry Young Virgins Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the young virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?' Silent Children : Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)." Where sex is akin to a crime, silence is admission of your guilt. What a corruption of "fitrah" ( human nature). What religion condones the destruction of childhood? What are we who daily avow our undying love for Allah to do against a system that ruthlessly oppresses its youngest and brightest ? What was Aisha's age? I have heard other figures ... (A question also known as: How many of your own sources will you deny ? ) All the relevant sources (Bukhari, Ibn Hisham, Tabari, Ibn al-Athir, Ibn Sa'd, Ibn Hanbal, etc.) maintain that Aisha was bethroted to Mohammed when she was 6, and the marraige was consummated 3 years later. 'Mahommad - The Word of Allah' written by Anne-Marie Delcambre. (Anne-Marie Delcambre has a doctorate in 'Islamology', and taught Islamic Civilisation at the Saint Joseph University of Beyrouth in Lebanon). On page 69, it says that he was married to her when she was 9 years old. Dates commonly accepted by scholars: Birth Muhammad(570), birth Aisha(614 or 1992). Bethrothal(620 or 621), Consummation of marriage(623 or 624). In particular the "consummation" of marriage is said to have taken place after the hidjra in Shawwal 1 or 2. Between 621 and 623 Asiha is said to have contracted a disease whereby she temporarily lost her hair. (Ref 1) She could not have been more than 10 years when she went to live in Muhammad's house. The fact that she took her toys with her to her new home indicates that she was psychologically and socially still a child. And the fact that she was allowed to play with DOLLS indicates that she had NOT reached puberty by this time. ("The playing with the dolls and similar images was(is) forbidden, but it was allowed for Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty."Fateh-al- Bari page 143, Vol.13). Besides, there is also Aisha's own statement which implies that she had NOT reached puberty when she moved into Muhammad's house[Sahih Bukhari 7.163]. I am sure she would have been able to recount accurately as to when and where she got her first menses. Most girls do remember such events rather accurately. (Refs 2) What is "sick" is that Muhammad had started to dream of a union with Aisha already when she was 4-5 years old: "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you...(and) I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen." He was to use a similar tactic when he wanted to marry his step son's wife. A tactic which Aisha later came to understand as fraud, as in: "Aisha said: O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in pleasing you." (Refs 2) Muhammad wasted no time in realizing what he had been dreaming. Already when Aisha was 6 "The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Here it does not seem that Abu Bakr consented to the marriage wholeheartedly. REFERENCES (1) Les femmes du Prophete Prof.Magali Morsi, Professor of History, University of Muhammed V, Rabat, Morocco. (1993) Shahih Bukhari: [1.229] [1.230] [1.231] [1.232] [1.233] [1.258] [1.263] [1993 |
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The radical homosexual agenda seeks to silence every dissenting voice of truth in our society, and as long as they continue to recruit naive politicians, they threaten the very "civil liberties" they pretend to protect. Their lust for public legitimacy and moral acceptance (among other things) is unquenchable. "Hate-crimes" laws are nothing more than calculated steps toward "speech codes" to silence opposition toward sexual perversion and punish Christians, in particular, for publicly endorsing traditional family values. http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/arti...s_opinion/lett... One for the good guys! The Supreme Court does Anita Bryant proud! Monday, Apr 9, 2007 Mark Follman Florida's specific statute preventing homosexual men and women from becoming adoptive parents, on the books since 1977, isn't likely to go away anytime soon; the U.S. Supreme Court refused on Monday to hear a challenge to the law. The Florida statute was enacted in 1977, in the midst of an anti-gay campaign led by the singer and Florida orange juice pitch-person Anita Bryant. Curtis Peterson, the state senator who sponsored the measure, said that the legislation's message to the gay community was "we're really tired of you" and "we wish you'd go back into the closet." |
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Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
On Apr 2, 4:26�pm, Larry Kessler wb8jel @ arrl.net wrote:
"bob&carole" wrote: Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. The former Congressional page whom Foley contacted was hardly a "kid" -- he was 16. Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids. This is NOT "typical behavior for homosexuals." *If it were, it wouldn't be news. It is well known that queer men will molest a boy quicker than a straight man will molest a girl. |
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Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
On Apr 23, 1:01?am, "Wonderer" wrote:
"bobandcarole," wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 2, 4:26?pm, Larry Kessler wb8jel @ arrl.net wrote: "bob&carole" wrote: Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. The former Congressional page whom Foley contacted was hardly a "kid" -- he was 16. Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids. This is NOT "typical behavior for homosexuals." If it were, it wouldn't be news. It is well known that queer men will molest a boy quicker than a straight man will molest a girl. are you speaking from first hand experience, bob As you well know, I'm not a pedophile. But YOU are.... |
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Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
On Apr 24, 2:00?am, "Wonderer" wrote:
"YouKidding?" wrote in message .. . In article , "Wonderer" wrote: "bobandcarole," wrote in message groups.com... On Apr 2, 4:26?pm, Larry Kessler wb8jel @ arrl.net wrote: "bob&carole" wrote: Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. The former Congressional page whom Foley contacted was hardly a "kid" -- he was 16. Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids. This is NOT "typical behavior for homosexuals." If it were, it wouldn't be news. It is well known that queer men will molest a boy quicker than a straight man will molest a girl. are you speaking from first hand experience, bob LOL, want some Kool-Aid? I just know you pulled that out of your ass. Oh, no you couldn't have, your head is up there. say's the preschooler, looking in the mirror Says the kiddie****er that posts pro pedophile garbage in alt.support.boy-lovers |
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Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
Rhiannon heeft uiteengezet op 5-4-2007 :
"bob&carole" wrote in message oups.com... Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids. It isn't typical behaviour of homosexual's, it's typical behaviour of pedophiles. BIG difference. **** off! Stop dismantling the friendly nature of our peacefull newsgroup, ****ing morons! -- Het leven begint op het moment dat je je niets meer aantrekt van wat andere mensen van je denken. |
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On Apr 23, 11:25�pm, "YouKidding?" wrote:
In article , *"Wonderer" wrote: "bobandcarole," wrote in message roups.com... On Apr 2, 4:26?pm, Larry Kessler wb8jel @ arrl.net wrote: "bob&carole" wrote: Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual pedophile. And like many homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We should pray for him that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. The former Congressional page whom Foley contacted was hardly a "kid" -- he was 16. Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate such folks to positions where they gain access to our kids. This is NOT "typical behavior for homosexuals." If it were, it wouldn't be news. It is well known that queer men will molest a boy quicker than a straight man will molest a girl. are you speaking from first hand experience, bob LOL, want some Kool-Aid? I just know you pulled that out of your ass. Oh, no you couldn't have, your head is up there WTF???? |
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