Stretched skin post by C revisited please!

Hi all,

I was intrigued by this thread and since it is one year old I'd love
to see it revisited. Has anyone tried any of the products? How did
they work for you?

I'm dealing with the ugly flabby upper arm thing and since I tend to
run warm I'm always in sleeveless tops and my arms are always visible.
They are getting all loose and saggy and I'd love to do something
about them.

I'm also at that wonderful age where lines and wrinkles are starting
to form. I've been using some products from Dr. Perricone and was
happy to see there were some less expensive versions available.

Susan
in Indiana, using a new email addy to cut down on the dreaded spam




Original post:

From: Icrazyhorsei )
Subject: Stretched Skin(by C!)LONG
View: Complete Thread (23 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
Date: 2003-01-29 20:58:36 PST


I just got a post offboard from a person who was interested in the
Trireduction
cream from skinbiology.com. This would be *ITEM 44* on the main order
page:
Trireduction Copper Peptides with Lavender and Retinol.

I also saw another post regarding this Awful Problem of stretched skin
and I
meant to answer it but....hell, I was too lazy at the time. But both
of these
together made me think I should offer everyone an Update on My Belly,
which
y'all haven't been gifted with in, what is it now, a week?

Sometimes I wish I had a picture of what I started with because aside
from
losing 100 pounds, what's happening around my belly button is my most
amazing
personal transformation ever. Ever heard the word Pannus? I had one of
those,
plus a belly button that stretched down to places it had no business
being,
bright red stretch marks -- everything and a side of horseradish.

And right now..after losing weight, doing Pilates for almost six
months and
bombing it with the most intensively researched protocols in my
personal
arsenal...it's just about flat. Where I once had maybe eight inches to
pinch
under my belly button, I've now got exactly an inch. Where the fold
was there
is just the lightest crease. Stretch marks fading to little spidery
white
lines. it's *really working* and I have every hope it will work all
the way.

Do not be fooled by the Evil Plastic Surgeon. The Evil Plastic Surgeon
makes a
****load of cash for every person he convinces that the knife is the
only
answer. Think about it, why do you believe that the only way your
stretched
skin is going to go away is by getting it cut off of you for twenty
thousand
dollars? Didya read it in a magazine, perhaps? With an authoritative
quote by a
renowned plastic surgeon?

The truth is, you don't lose elasticity in significant enough amounts
to never
ever snap back until you are over *50*. If you lose a lot of weight,
impatient
and horrified and possibly low on muscle, you might believe you
deserve to have
your skin cut off because of your "past abuses", but the human body is
a
magical machine and it will reward you with normalcy if you treat it
right.

So this is what you need to do if you have the Awful Problem and yet,
alas,
lack the twenty thousand bucks and an interest in being surgically
skinned:

1. Wait. If you've dropped a lot of poundage, wait at least a *year*
at
maintenance. Sometimes it's just a question of your puzzled outer
layer
catching up with the rest of you -- in a lot of cases that's all it
takes to
resolve it.

2. Build muscle. One little known fact about strength training is that
it
brings oxygen and tone to the area in question, correcting the flab
that
informs the Awful Problem.

3. Intense skin therapy. A fancy dermatologist told me once that since
the
miracle potions designed for facial skin were not for any other skin
on the
body, they would work on any other part of the body.

?

So what do you have on the rest of your body? Notskin? Hide? Fur? It's
all the
same thing, it covers every inch of you. Therefore, potions designed
to frim
skin, treat scars, and improve elasticity on your face work just fine
on other
areas and the only real drawback to that is the cost; you're covering
a little
more surface area. Still, I personally guarantee that any cream you
buy for
your skin is going to cost less than twenty thousand dollars.

Now, I am about to write out the C is for Comprehensive Belly/Skin
Shrinkage
System below. If you're really interested in this, could you do me a
favor and
save this post or remember it says by C! at the top to Google later? I
really
want to let people know they don't have to spend twenty thousand
dollars to get
their skin fixed but I get tired of typing the same thing over and
over:

Glycolic acid or AHA in home peel, three times a week at ten, twenty,
or thirty
percent. This lifts the top layer of dead surface skin and gets you
closer to
the place you really want to work on. Also, AHAs and BHA improve skin
elasticity over time, as does all types of exfoliation.

Another AHA of lesser strength ( say two percent) every day or twice a
day,
under a copper peptide cream of which there are about only three to
choose
from: Trideduction with Lavender and Retinol, item 44 on the main
order page at
Skinbiology.com is cheapest, and the strongest of all. This also once
or twice
a day.

Do this for about six months and build muscle under the stretched spot
for six
months and see where you are. I guarantee it will be somewhere if not
all the
way home.

Optional:

Alpha Lipoic, Ester C and DMAE cream: This is a skin lifter. It works,
try it
on that soft spot under your arms for a couple weeks, you'll be
convinced. Two
companies make it in the world: Perricone has a cream for about sixty
bucks a
jar, Reviva Labs makes the same thing for 22.

Wise Ways Herbals Beautiful Belly Balm: I'm not sure what the Garnet
Gem
essence it lists as an ingredient is exactly for, but the prevalent
lavender
essential oil is what women used to use to snap back from pregnancy
before
there were copper peptides. it's good, highly emollient, and cheap.

Massage: Punch, pinch, whap, whatever the Awful Area in question once
a day or
as often as you think of it. Rub it down with a loofah, whenever you
think of
it. You might think this is too simplistic to be helpful, but it
increases
circulation and drains away lymph around the damaged area so good
stuff, like
blood and water and nutrients, can get to it.

For women with ruined bellies from pregnancy: Pilates. it will mend
the recti
muscle your towhaired tot revised for you..usually in about six months
if you
do it regularly.

So now that you have the protocol, don't wait. A C's Comprehensive
Belly/Skin
Shrinkage System works better and faster while you're losing weight
and not six
or eight months after, which is when you'll typically be vulnerable to
the cry
of the Evil Plastic Surgeon.

One day...maybe four months from now, I am going to post a picture of
my
personal progress with C's System. And then I'm going to send it to
every
single human in America who thinks their skin isn't smarter than a
doctor's
knife. I really mean it.

Susan wrote:

Hi all,

I was intrigued by this thread and since it is one year old I'd love
to see it revisited. Has anyone tried any of the products? How did
they work for you?

I'm dealing with the ugly flabby upper arm thing and since I tend to
run warm I'm always in sleeveless tops and my arms are always visible.
They are getting all loose and saggy and I'd love to do something
about them.

I'm also at that wonderful age where lines and wrinkles are starting
to form. I've been using some products from Dr. Perricone and was
happy to see there were some less expensive versions available.

Susan
in Indiana, using a new email addy to cut down on the dreaded spam

My skin is wrinkly--not so much saggy except a bit on my butt. I
tried some lotion containing copper peptides, and it caused me to
break out. I'd love to hear of any lotions/creams that help with
wrinkles, esp. on my face. (Susan, I am almost 54.)

--
Jean B.

Susan,

I read in a book by a doctor that exercising the muscles in your legs will
have a positive effect on the muscles in the arms because they share a
similar biochemistry. I have found this to be very true. I have physical
limitations that make it hard to do weights, but my 9+ months of near-daily
treadmill exercise have caused my floppy underarms to recede to where I was
wearing sleeveless shirts this summer for the first time in my life.

So work those upper legs for 40 minutes a day and see if it helps!

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Susan" wrote in message
m...
Hi all,

I was intrigued by this thread and since it is one year old I'd love
to see it revisited. Has anyone tried any of the products? How did
they work for you?

I'm dealing with the ugly flabby upper arm thing and since I tend to
run warm I'm always in sleeveless tops and my arms are always visible.
They are getting all loose and saggy and I'd love to do something
about them.

I'm also at that wonderful age where lines and wrinkles are starting
to form. I've been using some products from Dr. Perricone and was
happy to see there were some less expensive versions available.

Susan
in Indiana, using a new email addy to cut down on the dreaded spam




Original post:

From: Icrazyhorsei )
Subject: Stretched Skin(by C!)LONG
View: Complete Thread (23 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
Date: 2003-01-29 20:58:36 PST


I just got a post offboard from a person who was interested in the
Trireduction
cream from skinbiology.com. This would be *ITEM 44* on the main order
page:
Trireduction Copper Peptides with Lavender and Retinol.

I also saw another post regarding this Awful Problem of stretched skin
and I
meant to answer it but....hell, I was too lazy at the time. But both
of these
together made me think I should offer everyone an Update on My Belly,
which
y'all haven't been gifted with in, what is it now, a week?

Sometimes I wish I had a picture of what I started with because aside
from
losing 100 pounds, what's happening around my belly button is my most
amazing
personal transformation ever. Ever heard the word Pannus? I had one of
those,
plus a belly button that stretched down to places it had no business
being,
bright red stretch marks -- everything and a side of horseradish.

And right now..after losing weight, doing Pilates for almost six
months and
bombing it with the most intensively researched protocols in my
personal
arsenal...it's just about flat. Where I once had maybe eight inches to
pinch
under my belly button, I've now got exactly an inch. Where the fold
was there
is just the lightest crease. Stretch marks fading to little spidery
white
lines. it's *really working* and I have every hope it will work all
the way.

Do not be fooled by the Evil Plastic Surgeon. The Evil Plastic Surgeon
makes a
****load of cash for every person he convinces that the knife is the
only
answer. Think about it, why do you believe that the only way your
stretched
skin is going to go away is by getting it cut off of you for twenty
thousand
dollars? Didya read it in a magazine, perhaps? With an authoritative
quote by a
renowned plastic surgeon?

The truth is, you don't lose elasticity in significant enough amounts
to never
ever snap back until you are over *50*. If you lose a lot of weight,
impatient
and horrified and possibly low on muscle, you might believe you
deserve to have
your skin cut off because of your "past abuses", but the human body is
a
magical machine and it will reward you with normalcy if you treat it
right.

So this is what you need to do if you have the Awful Problem and yet,
alas,
lack the twenty thousand bucks and an interest in being surgically
skinned:

1. Wait. If you've dropped a lot of poundage, wait at least a *year*
at
maintenance. Sometimes it's just a question of your puzzled outer
layer
catching up with the rest of you -- in a lot of cases that's all it
takes to
resolve it.

2. Build muscle. One little known fact about strength training is that
it
brings oxygen and tone to the area in question, correcting the flab
that
informs the Awful Problem.

3. Intense skin therapy. A fancy dermatologist told me once that since
the
miracle potions designed for facial skin were not for any other skin
on the
body, they would work on any other part of the body.

?

So what do you have on the rest of your body? Notskin? Hide? Fur? It's
all the
same thing, it covers every inch of you. Therefore, potions designed
to frim
skin, treat scars, and improve elasticity on your face work just fine
on other
areas and the only real drawback to that is the cost; you're covering
a little
more surface area. Still, I personally guarantee that any cream you
buy for
your skin is going to cost less than twenty thousand dollars.

Now, I am about to write out the C is for Comprehensive Belly/Skin
Shrinkage
System below. If you're really interested in this, could you do me a
favor and
save this post or remember it says by C! at the top to Google later? I
really
want to let people know they don't have to spend twenty thousand
dollars to get
their skin fixed but I get tired of typing the same thing over and
over:

Glycolic acid or AHA in home peel, three times a week at ten, twenty,
or thirty
percent. This lifts the top layer of dead surface skin and gets you
closer to
the place you really want to work on. Also, AHAs and BHA improve skin
elasticity over time, as does all types of exfoliation.

Another AHA of lesser strength ( say two percent) every day or twice a
day,
under a copper peptide cream of which there are about only three to
choose
from: Trideduction with Lavender and Retinol, item 44 on the main
order page at
Skinbiology.com is cheapest, and the strongest of all. This also once
or twice
a day.

Do this for about six months and build muscle under the stretched spot
for six
months and see where you are. I guarantee it will be somewhere if not
all the
way home.

Optional:

Alpha Lipoic, Ester C and DMAE cream: This is a skin lifter. It works,
try it
on that soft spot under your arms for a couple weeks, you'll be
convinced. Two
companies make it in the world: Perricone has a cream for about sixty
bucks a
jar, Reviva Labs makes the same thing for 22.

Wise Ways Herbals Beautiful Belly Balm: I'm not sure what the Garnet
Gem
essence it lists as an ingredient is exactly for, but the prevalent
lavender
essential oil is what women used to use to snap back from pregnancy
before
there were copper peptides. it's good, highly emollient, and cheap.

Massage: Punch, pinch, whap, whatever the Awful Area in question once
a day or
as often as you think of it. Rub it down with a loofah, whenever you
think of
it. You might think this is too simplistic to be helpful, but it
increases
circulation and drains away lymph around the damaged area so good
stuff, like
blood and water and nutrients, can get to it.

For women with ruined bellies from pregnancy: Pilates. it will mend
the recti
muscle your towhaired tot revised for you..usually in about six months
if you
do it regularly.

So now that you have the protocol, don't wait. A C's Comprehensive
Belly/Skin
Shrinkage System works better and faster while you're losing weight
and not six
or eight months after, which is when you'll typically be vulnerable to
the cry
of the Evil Plastic Surgeon.

One day...maybe four months from now, I am going to post a picture of
my
personal progress with C's System. And then I'm going to send it to
every
single human in America who thinks their skin isn't smarter than a
doctor's
knife. I really mean it.

Jenny wrote:
:: Susan,
::
:: I read in a book by a doctor that exercising the muscles in your
:: legs will have a positive effect on the muscles in the arms because
:: they share a similar biochemistry. I have found this to be very
:: true. I have physical limitations that make it hard to do weights,
:: but my 9+ months of near-daily treadmill exercise have caused my
:: floppy underarms to recede to where I was wearing sleeveless shirts
:: this summer for the first time in my life.
::
:: So work those upper legs for 40 minutes a day and see if it helps!

This sounds like simple fat loss to me. Moving heavy limbs takes energy,
you burn more calories. If you control food intake, you lose bodyfat.

I don't see what changes you can expect in arm muscles.

::
:: -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2
:: diabetes, hba1c 5.2.
:: Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!
::
:: Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
:: strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
:: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/
::
:: Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
:: Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm
::
::
::
:: "Susan" wrote in message
:: m...
::: Hi all,
:::
::: I was intrigued by this thread and since it is one year old I'd love
::: to see it revisited. Has anyone tried any of the products? How did
::: they work for you?
:::
::: I'm dealing with the ugly flabby upper arm thing and since I tend to
::: run warm I'm always in sleeveless tops and my arms are always
::: visible. They are getting all loose and saggy and I'd love to do
::: something
::: about them.
:::
::: I'm also at that wonderful age where lines and wrinkles are starting
::: to form. I've been using some products from Dr. Perricone and was
::: happy to see there were some less expensive versions available.
:::
::: Susan
::: in Indiana, using a new email addy to cut down on the dreaded spam
:::
:::
:::
:::
::: Original post:
:::
::: From: Icrazyhorsei )
::: Subject: Stretched Skin(by C!)LONG
::: View: Complete Thread (23 articles)
::: Original Format
::: Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
::: Date: 2003-01-29 20:58:36 PST
:::
:::
::: I just got a post offboard from a person who was interested in the
::: Trireduction
::: cream from skinbiology.com. This would be *ITEM 44* on the main
::: order page:
::: Trireduction Copper Peptides with Lavender and Retinol.
:::
::: I also saw another post regarding this Awful Problem of stretched
::: skin and I
::: meant to answer it but....hell, I was too lazy at the time. But both
::: of these
::: together made me think I should offer everyone an Update on My
::: Belly, which
::: y'all haven't been gifted with in, what is it now, a week?
:::
::: Sometimes I wish I had a picture of what I started with because
::: aside from
::: losing 100 pounds, what's happening around my belly button is my
::: most amazing
::: personal transformation ever. Ever heard the word Pannus? I had one
::: of those,
::: plus a belly button that stretched down to places it had no business
::: being,
::: bright red stretch marks -- everything and a side of horseradish.
:::
::: And right now..after losing weight, doing Pilates for almost six
::: months and
::: bombing it with the most intensively researched protocols in my
::: personal
::: arsenal...it's just about flat. Where I once had maybe eight inches
::: to pinch
::: under my belly button, I've now got exactly an inch. Where the fold
::: was there
::: is just the lightest crease. Stretch marks fading to little spidery
::: white
::: lines. it's *really working* and I have every hope it will work all
::: the way.
:::
::: Do not be fooled by the Evil Plastic Surgeon. The Evil Plastic
::: Surgeon makes a
::: ****load of cash for every person he convinces that the knife is the
::: only
::: answer. Think about it, why do you believe that the only way your
::: stretched
::: skin is going to go away is by getting it cut off of you for twenty
::: thousand
::: dollars? Didya read it in a magazine, perhaps? With an authoritative
::: quote by a
::: renowned plastic surgeon?
:::
::: The truth is, you don't lose elasticity in significant enough
::: amounts
::: to never
::: ever snap back until you are over *50*. If you lose a lot of weight,
::: impatient
::: and horrified and possibly low on muscle, you might believe you
::: deserve to have
::: your skin cut off because of your "past abuses", but the human body
::: is
::: a
::: magical machine and it will reward you with normalcy if you treat it
::: right.
:::
::: So this is what you need to do if you have the Awful Problem and
::: yet, alas,
::: lack the twenty thousand bucks and an interest in being surgically
::: skinned:
:::
::: 1. Wait. If you've dropped a lot of poundage, wait at least a *year*
::: at
::: maintenance. Sometimes it's just a question of your puzzled outer
::: layer
::: catching up with the rest of you -- in a lot of cases that's all it
::: takes to
::: resolve it.
:::
::: 2. Build muscle. One little known fact about strength training is
::: that it
::: brings oxygen and tone to the area in question, correcting the flab
::: that
::: informs the Awful Problem.
:::
::: 3. Intense skin therapy. A fancy dermatologist told me once that
::: since the
::: miracle potions designed for facial skin were not for any other skin
::: on the
::: body, they would work on any other part of the body.
:::
::: ?
:::
::: So what do you have on the rest of your body? Notskin? Hide? Fur?
::: It's all the
::: same thing, it covers every inch of you. Therefore, potions designed
::: to frim
::: skin, treat scars, and improve elasticity on your face work just
::: fine
::: on other
::: areas and the only real drawback to that is the cost; you're
::: covering
::: a little
::: more surface area. Still, I personally guarantee that any cream you
::: buy for
::: your skin is going to cost less than twenty thousand dollars.
:::
::: Now, I am about to write out the C is for Comprehensive Belly/Skin
::: Shrinkage
::: System below. If you're really interested in this, could you do me a
::: favor and
::: save this post or remember it says by C! at the top to Google
::: later? I really
::: want to let people know they don't have to spend twenty thousand
::: dollars to get
::: their skin fixed but I get tired of typing the same thing over and
::: over:
:::
::: Glycolic acid or AHA in home peel, three times a week at ten,
::: twenty,
::: or thirty
::: percent. This lifts the top layer of dead surface skin and gets you
::: closer to
::: the place you really want to work on. Also, AHAs and BHA improve
::: skin elasticity over time, as does all types of exfoliation.
:::
::: Another AHA of lesser strength ( say two percent) every day or
::: twice a day,
::: under a copper peptide cream of which there are about only three to
::: choose
::: from: Trideduction with Lavender and Retinol, item 44 on the main
::: order page at
::: Skinbiology.com is cheapest, and the strongest of all. This also
::: once
::: or twice
::: a day.
:::
::: Do this for about six months and build muscle under the stretched
::: spot for six
::: months and see where you are. I guarantee it will be somewhere if
::: not all the
::: way home.
:::
::: Optional:
:::
::: Alpha Lipoic, Ester C and DMAE cream: This is a skin lifter. It
::: works, try it
::: on that soft spot under your arms for a couple weeks, you'll be
::: convinced. Two
::: companies make it in the world: Perricone has a cream for about
::: sixty bucks a
::: jar, Reviva Labs makes the same thing for 22.
:::
::: Wise Ways Herbals Beautiful Belly Balm: I'm not sure what the Garnet
::: Gem
::: essence it lists as an ingredient is exactly for, but the prevalent
::: lavender
::: essential oil is what women used to use to snap back from pregnancy
::: before
::: there were copper peptides. it's good, highly emollient, and cheap.
:::
::: Massage: Punch, pinch, whap, whatever the Awful Area in question
::: once
::: a day or
::: as often as you think of it. Rub it down with a loofah, whenever you
::: think of
::: it. You might think this is too simplistic to be helpful, but it
::: increases
::: circulation and drains away lymph around the damaged area so good
::: stuff, like
::: blood and water and nutrients, can get to it.
:::
::: For women with ruined bellies from pregnancy: Pilates. it will mend
::: the recti
::: muscle your towhaired tot revised for you..usually in about six
::: months if you
::: do it regularly.
:::
::: So now that you have the protocol, don't wait. A C's Comprehensive
::: Belly/Skin
::: Shrinkage System works better and faster while you're losing weight
::: and not six
::: or eight months after, which is when you'll typically be vulnerable
::: to the cry
::: of the Evil Plastic Surgeon.
:::
::: One day...maybe four months from now, I am going to post a picture
::: of my
::: personal progress with C's System. And then I'm going to send it to
::: every
::: single human in America who thinks their skin isn't smarter than a
::: doctor's
::: knife. I really mean it.

Jean B. wrote:
My skin is wrinkly--not so much saggy except a bit on my butt. I
tried some lotion containing copper peptides, and it caused me to
break out. I'd love to hear of any lotions/creams that help with
wrinkles, esp. on my face. (Susan, I am almost 54.) BRBR
Interesting, I recently started using a copper peptide wrinkle cream on my face
and started breaking out. I NEVER have had a breakout problem so this really
bothers me. Will it stop when my skin becomes accustomed to the new lotion? I
don't know which is worse, breaking out or wrinkles. (BTW I'm 42.)


Brenda
135/106

Brenda wrote:

Interesting, I recently started using a copper peptide wrinkle cream on my face
and started breaking out. I NEVER have had a breakout problem so this really
bothers me. Will it stop when my skin becomes accustomed to the new lotion? I
don't know which is worse, breaking out or wrinkles. (BTW I'm 42.)

I hope someone else answers. I pretty much stopped using it. :-(

--
Jean B.

If you are talking about the Skinbiology products, try the serum if the CP
cream breaks you out.

I have always had really, really dry skin & I just soak up the creams, but they
are too heavy on the oil for normal facial skinRobyn

If you are talking about the Skinbiology products, try the serum if the CP
cream breaks you out. BRBR
I can't afford the skinbiology products. I bought Neutrogena night cream and
eye cream, both with active copper. I began breaking out about two weeks after
I began using the products. Coincidence? Any ideas anyone?

Brenda
135/106

Robin wrote:

If you are talking about the Skinbiology products, try the serum if the CP
cream breaks you out. BRBR

(Sorry, I never saw your original post.)

I couldn't use that on my face I guess. It is getting much drier,
but it is not totally dry. Do they have a body version? Where do
you get it?

--
Jean B.

From: "Jean B."



Robin wrote:

If you are talking about the Skinbiology products, try the serum if the
CP
cream breaks you out.

(Sorry, I never saw your original post.)I couldn't use that on my face I
guess. It is getting much drier,but it is not totally dry. Do they have a
body version? Where doyou get it?-- Jean B.


Jean,

The Skinbiology products are available at skinbiology.com, but I can't take any
credit for discovering them


If you google "stretched skin post by C revisited" you will find her entire
skin recovery program.

I had already noticed a HUGE and dramatic improvement in my skin from LCing
before I tried the combo pack that C recommends, so I don't know whether the
further improvements were due to LCing or the magic goos and potionsRobyn