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Old August 21st, 2004, 01:35 AM
Lady o' the house
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Default Too few calories?

I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
get to Pre-Maintenance.)

Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
scalp through the top front of my hair.

Or should I just do my own experiment?

Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off of
(ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)
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Linda
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Old August 21st, 2004, 01:59 AM
DJ Delorie
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"Lady o' the house" writes:
I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
year).


No reason to change anything if you're reliably losing weight.

Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
scalp through the top front of my hair.


Stress can do that; dieting does cause stress. Of course, lots of
other things could be the cause too, you never know.

Or should I just do my own experiment?


Yes ;-)
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Old August 21st, 2004, 02:41 AM
Daniel Hoffmeister
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Lady o' the house wrote:
I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.


I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
get to Pre-Maintenance.)


Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
scalp through the top front of my hair.


Sounds likely. Hair loss is known to be a common consequence of
hospital-administered low-calorie protein-sparing fasts. They commonly
allow around 700 calories.

Dan
325/211/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes



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Old August 21st, 2004, 02:41 AM
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Lady o' the house wrote:
I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.


I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
get to Pre-Maintenance.)


Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
scalp through the top front of my hair.


Sounds likely. Hair loss is known to be a common consequence of
hospital-administered low-calorie protein-sparing fasts. They commonly
allow around 700 calories.

Dan
325/211/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes



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Old August 21st, 2004, 04:13 AM
Lady o' the house
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Thanks, DJ and Daniel.

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"Lady o' the house" wrote in message
...
I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about

a
pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use

the
10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some

here
have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
get to Pre-Maintenance.)

Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
scalp through the top front of my hair.

Or should I just do my own experiment?

Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off

of
(ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)
--
Linda
296/206/160
LC since Oct. 13, 2003
http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html





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Old August 21st, 2004, 02:06 PM
Lady o' the house
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Thanks, Ig.

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LC since Oct. 13, 2003
http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html


"Ignoramus9298" wrote in message
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If you walk for an hour per day, extra, that would be an extra 2/3 lbs
per week lost, at the very least, with same level of nutritional safety.

i



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Old August 21st, 2004, 04:21 PM
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Lady,

All that ever happened to me when I tried raising calories was weight gain.
The more weight you lose, the less those BMR charts seem to apply. Right now
a hospital nutritionist has told me I should be able to maintain on 2200
calories. Well, I have logged and weighed and done all that stuff for many
months and discovered that going over 1700 calories a day will reliably put
weight on me, even when low carbing.

As far as the hair loss goes, twice in the past six years I've had spells
where my hair started falling out badly enough that it scared me. They
passed, and it all seems to have grown back as I still have an awful lot of
hair. This is apparently something that happens to dieters. Google this
newsgroup and you'll find quite a few threads on the subject. You can try
upping your B vitamins or taking Biotin.



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hba1c 5.7 .
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"Lady o' the house" wrote in message
...
I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about

a
pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use

the
10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some

here
have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
get to Pre-Maintenance.)

Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
scalp through the top front of my hair.

Or should I just do my own experiment?

Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off

of
(ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)
--
Linda
296/206/160
LC since Oct. 13, 2003
http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html





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Old August 21st, 2004, 05:01 PM
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:35:31 GMT, "Lady o' the house"
wrote:

I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
get to Pre-Maintenance.)

Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
scalp through the top front of my hair.

Or should I just do my own experiment?

Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off of
(ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)


If you could do 52 MORE pounds this next year, you would be in great
shape, right? That's unrealistic of course, but do keep in mind that
multiple research studies have shown that rats that have been on
extremely low calorie starvation diets, live twice as long and are
much healthier than their control groups. A number of human studies
are underway to determine if the same results can be applied to humans
on extremely low calorie starvation diets. Some of these people
expect to live to 120 or greater, but more importantly to be healthy
and vigorous in the process.

A body in starvation mode is a good thing




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Old August 21st, 2004, 05:01 PM
PJx
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:35:31 GMT, "Lady o' the house"
wrote:

I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
get to Pre-Maintenance.)

Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
scalp through the top front of my hair.

Or should I just do my own experiment?

Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off of
(ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)


If you could do 52 MORE pounds this next year, you would be in great
shape, right? That's unrealistic of course, but do keep in mind that
multiple research studies have shown that rats that have been on
extremely low calorie starvation diets, live twice as long and are
much healthier than their control groups. A number of human studies
are underway to determine if the same results can be applied to humans
on extremely low calorie starvation diets. Some of these people
expect to live to 120 or greater, but more importantly to be healthy
and vigorous in the process.

A body in starvation mode is a good thing




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Old August 21st, 2004, 05:47 PM
Succorso
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PJx wrote:

If you could do 52 MORE pounds this next year, you would be in great
shape, right? That's unrealistic of course, but do keep in mind that
multiple research studies have shown that rats that have been on
extremely low calorie starvation diets, live twice as long and are
much healthier than their control groups. A number of human studies
are underway to determine if the same results can be applied to humans
on extremely low calorie starvation diets. Some of these people
expect to live to 120 or greater, but more importantly to be healthy
and vigorous in the process.

A body in starvation mode is a good thing





I don't really agree with your use of the word "starvation". Those
calorie levels lead to, well... starvation.

Calorie Restriction is about matching calorie intake and nutrition to
your activity level. The modern western way of life is incompatible with
this lifestyle because we treat eating as a form of entertainment, and
we are largely sedentary.

We have evolved to use a high protein, high fibre diet to fuel hours of
activity in the fields, or hunting, or protecting our tribe and
territory. Compare that with the "modern" lifestyle!

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Succorso
 




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