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Old July 19th, 2008, 07:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Liam T.
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Default Guys that workout in here pls

Hello There,

Its a month that I started low carb, and I don't have energy to
workout.....

I do the eliptical for 10 minutes and I'm burned out, where before I
could do 40 minutes at a higher bar.

I can walk on the treadwill.......

I can do some weights but not like before, seems i'm losing muscle....

I'm on induction , I eat lean meat salad, 4 cups veggie max, olive
oil, no fruit milk starches pasta potatoes etc
About 120 grms of protein a day, maybe 20 grms carb.

My Doc says don't bother doing cardio to lose weight because I'm
insulin resistant (i should do it for improing heart), says I should
do weights to increase muscle and metabolism.

I try to go workout everyday (i'm on a mission to bring my blood
pressure down)

But I feel like i'm going nowhere, seems almost the more I try to
workout , the less I'm losing weight?

In what way are you working out? Is it helping? Are you losing muscle?

Thanks
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Old July 19th, 2008, 09:18 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
FOB
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Default Guys that workout in here pls

So up the carbs, induction is two weeks, then you start adding carbs. They
do say that weight training is more helpful for weight loss than cardio. It
builds muscles that burn more calories just by being there.

Liam T. wrote:
| Hello There,
|
| Its a month that I started low carb, and I don't have energy to
| workout.....
|
| I do the eliptical for 10 minutes and I'm burned out, where before I
| could do 40 minutes at a higher bar.
|
| I can walk on the treadwill.......
|
| I can do some weights but not like before, seems i'm losing muscle....
|
| I'm on induction , I eat lean meat salad, 4 cups veggie max, olive
| oil, no fruit milk starches pasta potatoes etc
| About 120 grms of protein a day, maybe 20 grms carb.
|
| My Doc says don't bother doing cardio to lose weight because I'm
| insulin resistant (i should do it for improing heart), says I should
| do weights to increase muscle and metabolism.
|
| I try to go workout everyday (i'm on a mission to bring my blood
| pressure down)
|
| But I feel like i'm going nowhere, seems almost the more I try to
| workout , the less I'm losing weight?
|
| In what way are you working out? Is it helping? Are you losing muscle?
|
| Thanks


  #3  
Old July 20th, 2008, 03:03 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Hannah Gruen
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Default Guys that workout in here pls

Yeah... remember the days when a frequent response here was "RTFB"?

One major reason people get started on LC, but fail to do well, is that they
are doing some home-concocted version that they kinda made up after reading
a chapter, or a few pages, of Atkin, Eades etc.... or just an article in a
magazine... or based on a friend's description of the program. Sometimes
they actually read the program but don't understand and/or follow it.

A lot of people don't do well on 20 g/day, especially in the first months.
Some people need to add more low-GI carbs in order to get decent
high-intensity workouts in. Others do not. Also, the OP should keep inind
that it can take months to fully adjust to LC. Probably longer if you're
older and/or definitely insulin resistant.

For me, I did'nt really do a lot of exercise, other than walking and some
aerobics, right after I went LC. After a few months I started longer hikes
in the hills, and bicycle riding including hills. I've never in my life had
greater stamina than on LC. I just do better burning fat rather than sugar.
But also, I "trained" on LC, and that is an important step... don't expect
to go from exercising/working out on high carb, and then move to LC and hit
the same level in a few weeks. Usually ain't gonna happen. Build up
gradually, training your body to use fatty acids more efficiently. Again
like most of LC, YMMV (your mileage may vary).

HG


"FOB" wrote in message
...
So up the carbs, induction is two weeks, then you start adding carbs.
They
do say that weight training is more helpful for weight loss than cardio.
It
builds muscles that burn more calories just by being there.

Liam T. wrote:
| Hello There,
|
| Its a month that I started low carb, and I don't have energy to
| workout.....
|
| I do the eliptical for 10 minutes and I'm burned out, where before I
| could do 40 minutes at a higher bar.
|
| I can walk on the treadwill.......
|
| I can do some weights but not like before, seems i'm losing muscle....
|
| I'm on induction , I eat lean meat salad, 4 cups veggie max, olive
| oil, no fruit milk starches pasta potatoes etc
| About 120 grms of protein a day, maybe 20 grms carb.
|
| My Doc says don't bother doing cardio to lose weight because I'm
| insulin resistant (i should do it for improing heart), says I should
| do weights to increase muscle and metabolism.
|
| I try to go workout everyday (i'm on a mission to bring my blood
| pressure down)
|
| But I feel like i'm going nowhere, seems almost the more I try to
| workout , the less I'm losing weight?
|
| In what way are you working out? Is it helping? Are you losing muscle?
|
| Thanks




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Old July 20th, 2008, 03:52 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Liam T.
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Default Guys that workout in here pls

On Jul 20, 10:03*am, "Hannah Gruen"
wrote:
Yeah... remember the days when a frequent response here was "RTFB"?

One major reason people get started on LC, but fail to do well, is that they
are doing some home-concocted version that they kinda made up after reading
a chapter, or a few pages, of Atkin, Eades etc.... or just an article in a
magazine... or based on a friend's description of the program. Sometimes
they actually read the program but don't understand and/or follow it.


Why don't you shove you're " holier than thou" attitude up your
*** ? YEAH..... REMEMBER THE DAYS THAT PEOPLE tried to help rather
than "thinking you know everything" ? Or jumping to a conclusion?

I was just trying to get a feel of what other folks are going thru
with the exercise part........I am doing the diet under the doctors
supervision and he does sometimes extend the induction phase, and yes
I'm following the book OK?

You're second part of your response is welcome, its constructive.

Thanks to the first poster (FOB)
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Old July 20th, 2008, 04:59 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Marsha[_2_]
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Default Guys that workout in here pls

Liam T. wrote:
Why don't you shove you're " holier than thou" attitude up your
*** ? YEAH..... REMEMBER THE DAYS THAT PEOPLE tried to help rather
than "thinking you know everything" ? Or jumping to a conclusion?

I was just trying to get a feel of what other folks are going thru
with the exercise part........I am doing the diet under the doctors
supervision and he does sometimes extend the induction phase, and yes
I'm following the book OK?


You obviously haven't read this group much. Hannah doesn't have a
"holier than thou bone" in her body.

Marsha/Ohio

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Old July 20th, 2008, 06:41 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Liam T.
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Default Guys that workout in here pls


You obviously haven't read this group much. *Hannah doesn't have a
"holier than thou bone" in her body.

Marsha/Ohio


Possible,..... I have just started reading here but, then what was
the need for a reply like this:

Yeah... remember the days when a frequent response here was "RTFB"?

One major reason people get started on LC, but fail to do well, is that they
are doing some home-concocted version that they kinda made up after reading
a chapter, or a few pages, of Atkin, Eades etc.... or just an article in a
magazine... or based on a friend's description of the program. Sometimes
they actually read the program but don't understand and/or follow it.


In case you missed it RTFB means "read the ****ing book", just because
you guys click with her, dosen't make it right.
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Old July 20th, 2008, 07:09 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Liam T.
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Default Guys that workout in here pls


You may find that you're just too thin skinned to hang out on usenet.


I'm comfortable on the net, not too thin skinned. You guys are just
her friends and you're backing her up even if you fail to acknowledge
that the first part of her post was condescending . Great friends
Hannah..... maybe you folks should make an effort on being honest and
tell her the truth rather than backing her up no matter what!!


We know what it means, we've been reading and posting here for about a
decade, many/most of us.


So you have been her for deacades? Good for you........

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Old July 20th, 2008, 07:36 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Liam T.
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Default Guys that workout in here pls


* Great friends

I always tell the truth, so trust me when I tell you you're really a
total jerk and that this will be my last response to you.


Now I really trust you....Thank God its your last response as I never
asked you for a response. (and never called you names, says something
about you)
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Old July 21st, 2008, 12:05 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Default Guys that workout in here pls

"Liam T." wrote:

Its a month that I started low carb, and I don't have energy to
workout.....


You're supposed to start by taking it esy and then increase
the duration and/or intensity over time. What you describe
is hardly surprising.

... seems i'm losing muscle....


Nope. Not how it works. The transistion from carb
fuel to fat fuel doesn't consume muscle.

I'm on induction


Induction is 2 weeks so I agree with Hannah that you
need to read the book.

I eat lean meat salad, 4 cups veggie max, olive
oil, no fruit milk starches pasta potatoes etc


What you've descried is combining low fat with low carb.
That's somethng else cautioned against in the book.

About 120 grms of protein a day, maybe 20 grms carb.


Okay. And grams or calories of fat? All I can guess
from your description is not enough.

My Doc says don't bother doing cardio to lose weight because I'm
insulin resistant (i should do it for improing heart), says I should
do weights to increase muscle and metabolism.


Low carb should handle insulin resistant but it isn't a
fast transistion. I disagree with your doc as I think
your combination is fine. It's just starting easy and
building back up that you're not doing.

I try to go workout everyday (i'm on a mission to bring my blood
pressure down)


How about aerobic or resistance in any one day.

But I feel like i'm going nowhere, seems almost the more I try to
workout , the less I'm losing weight?


Seems is one of those magic words. Just to check -
You're aware that when exercise programs are increased
the muscles hoard glycogen dissolved in water, right? So
any new exercise plan masks loss early on.

In what way are you working out?


Treadill some days, Bowflex some days.

Is it helping?


Sure. Noting that I followed the directions in the book, went
easy early on, was on Induction 14 not 15 days, took into
account that exercise does burn a mix of carbs and fat and
so didn't try my darnedest to blast my muscles with an
unworkable mix.

Are you losing muscle?


Nope. High fat low carb ensures that.
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Old July 21st, 2008, 12:54 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Liam T.
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Default Guys that workout in here pls

Thanks so much for the feedback Doug,

Induction is 2 weeks so I agree with Hannah that you
need to read the book.


My doctor often stretches the induction (its a metabolic diet) so
indeed I'm following the instructions and reading the book.

Okay. *And grams or calories of fat? *All I can guess
from your description is not enough.


The fat is about 107 grams a day mostly from xtra v olive oil (the
diet allows all the olive oil you want)


Sure. *Noting that I followed the directions in the book, went
easy early on, was on Induction 14 not 15 days, took into
account that exercise does burn a mix of carbs and fat and
so didn't try my darnedest to blast my muscles with an
unworkable mix.

Are you losing muscle?


Nope. *High fat low carb ensures that.


Thanks, I'm going to try to do my weights first and do a little
cardio afterwards and gradually increase , hopefully by then I will
getting more carbs and I'll be a little more used to it.

Cheers
 




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