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Old June 29th, 2005, 07:06 PM
FOB
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Perhaps because they haven't found satisfying substitutes. If I want
something, not ever having it only makes me want it more. Having a similar
substitute can satisfy my longing.

In . com,
Cubit stated
| An amazing number of low carbers who have made goal go on to eating
| carbs and regaining the weight, and more. Why are they so quick to
| return to eating bread and cake?
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Old June 29th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Doug Freyburger
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Cubit wrote:

"let them eat cake." -NOT

I have come to strongly suspect that eating simulated carb foods (like bread
or cake) patterns a dieter for a return to real carbs and failure.

There are many true low carbs foods. One should learn to find satisfaction
within that range. Thus, one may be part of the 5% who succeed and
maintain.


I'm usually hard core about psychological tricks that
feed an addiction, but where is the boundary for you?

Almonds are low carb to almost anyone but you don't
like making a cake from almond (with artificial
sweetener to make it sweet, right?) because it feeds
an addiction towards cake. Is this too much like
giving an alcoholic a near beer in your opinion?

How about "fautatoes" made by mashing cauliflower
and maybe adding some cheese or cream? It only uses
foods from the core Induction lists so is it a bad
idea as well?

I'm more inclined to think that the problem with a
cake made from almond flour is the artificial sweetener
and how it keeps the sweet tooth active than the
richening effect of the almonds. Rich can imply low
carb when done right and rich foods could make a
reasonable replacement that doesn't end up a
psychological trick. Almond butter low carb, snacks
made from almond butter okay. Almond paste sugared
high carb, almond paste with AS a trick, snacks made
from almond paste with AS worry me about a slippery
slope towards going back to real sugar.

And yet how much of my worrying about artificial
sweeteners is nonsense while I average a diet soda
every other day? When I've gone through months on
end without diet sodas my sweet tooth did get
steadily smaller but even some diet sodas, shrug.

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Old June 29th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Tori M.
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"FOB" wrote in message
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Perhaps because they haven't found satisfying substitutes. If I want
something, not ever having it only makes me want it more. Having a
similar
substitute can satisfy my longing.

*nod* actualy I have found that some subs. are better then the real thing to
me now.. I almost can not stand the taste of reg vanilla icecream anymore.

Tori

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Old June 29th, 2005, 07:20 PM
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"Cubit" wrote in message
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An amazing number of low carbers who have made goal go on to eating carbs
and regaining the weight, and more. Why are they so quick to return to
eating bread and cake?



Because they were on a diet instead of a WOE?

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Old June 29th, 2005, 07:52 PM
Roger Zoul
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
:: Cubit wrote:
:::
::: "let them eat cake." -NOT
:::
::: I have come to strongly suspect that eating simulated carb foods
::: (like bread or cake) patterns a dieter for a return to real carbs
::: and failure.
:::
::: There are many true low carbs foods. One should learn to find
::: satisfaction within that range. Thus, one may be part of the 5%
::: who succeed and maintain.
::
:: I'm usually hard core about psychological tricks that
:: feed an addiction, but where is the boundary for you?
::
:: Almonds are low carb to almost anyone but you don't
:: like making a cake from almond (with artificial
:: sweetener to make it sweet, right?) because it feeds
:: an addiction towards cake. Is this too much like
:: giving an alcoholic a near beer in your opinion?

Apparently so. Although LC ice cream is just fine, as are other items he
eats that use liquid splenda syrup.

::
:: How about "fautatoes" made by mashing cauliflower
:: and maybe adding some cheese or cream? It only uses
:: foods from the core Induction lists so is it a bad
:: idea as well?
::
:: I'm more inclined to think that the problem with a
:: cake made from almond flour is the artificial sweetener
:: and how it keeps the sweet tooth active than the
:: richening effect of the almonds.

But that can't be Cubit's objection. As he eats AS...

:: Rich can imply low
:: carb when done right and rich foods could make a
:: reasonable replacement that doesn't end up a
:: psychological trick. Almond butter low carb, snacks
:: made from almond butter okay. Almond paste sugared
:: high carb, almond paste with AS a trick, snacks made
:: from almond paste with AS worry me about a slippery
:: slope towards going back to real sugar.

Why go back to real sugar when you have a good subst?

The only real problem I see is eating too much of the substitute food.
That's a real problem with things that taste sweet. LC ice cream fits that
bill just as LC cake does.

IMO, the reason people backslide is because they forget that no matter how
thin (I hate that term) they are, they still carry around a fat person
inside. The same demons they had are still there, just controlled. Those of
us who were once really fat must remember that we must always fight the
battle. Some people just assume they have control and quit the struggle.
And they regain the weight because they are no longer trying to control it.
Slowly but surely. As a LCer, my plan is to always be a LCer and to always
fight the battle. So while I might have some cake, that will never signal a
return to eating high carb as a way of life. While I may on occasion
overeat, it will never become the rule rather than the exception. Also,
weight maintenance will always be an issue for me, and the demons are only
locked down, not vanquished.

IMO, the problem is what and how people think.

::
:: And yet how much of my worrying about artificial
:: sweeteners is nonsense while I average a diet soda
:: every other day? When I've gone through months on
:: end without diet sodas my sweet tooth did get
:: steadily smaller but even some diet sodas, shrug.


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Old June 29th, 2005, 07:52 PM
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"Cubit" wrote in message
. com...
An amazing number of low carbers who have made goal go on to eating carbs
and regaining the weight, and more. Why are they so quick to return to
eating bread and cake?


I can't answer that...I don't know why they go back to eating carbs and
regaining weight...but I'm not seeing the connection between making low carb
recipes and returning to eating high carb foods.

I probably sound argumentative eh? Especially considering that so many
people on usenet seem to be...but I'm new and you're old G and that's why
I'm pressing for an answer to my question .

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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:01 PM
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Sherry wrote:
:: "Cubit" wrote in message
:: . com...
::: An amazing number of low carbers who have made goal go on to eating
::: carbs and regaining the weight, and more. Why are they so quick
::: to return to eating bread and cake?
::
:: I can't answer that...I don't know why they go back to eating carbs
:: and regaining weight...but I'm not seeing the connection between
:: making low carb recipes and returning to eating high carb foods.

The question make no sense coming from someone who eats ice cream!


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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:13 PM
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On 6/29/2005 11:00:20 AM, Roger Zoul wrote:

Cubit wrote:
:: An amazing number of low carbers who have made goal go on to eating
:: carbs and regaining the weight, and more. Why are they so quick to
:: return to eating bread and cake?

An amazing number of low faters who have made goal go on to eating
carbs and regaining the weight, and more. Why are they so quick to
return to eating bread and cake?


Because bread and cake taste incredibly good?
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:26 PM
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Tarkus wrote:
:: On 6/29/2005 11:00:20 AM, Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: Cubit wrote:
::::: An amazing number of low carbers who have made goal go on to
::::: eating carbs and regaining the weight, and more. Why are they
::::: so quick to return to eating bread and cake?
:::
::: An amazing number of low faters who have made goal go on to eating
::: carbs and regaining the weight, and more. Why are they so quick to
::: return to eating bread and cake?
::
:: Because bread and cake taste incredibly good?

Yeah, there's that!


 




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