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I Read the Book
OK---the book was received and read cover to cover. Or, cassette to
cassette, as the case may be. The big thing I learned was I dont HAVE to keep adding five carbs a day/per week until I reach 50 or 60 or whatever my personal magic number is. I guess I was under the impression one NEEDS to consume as many carbs in veggies and nuts and so on as can be tolerated for health reasons. I was wondering how I was gonna cram THAT many veggies in as veggies arent much my thing, anyway. The only veggie dish Im crazy about happens to be salad---with a good mix of field greens, some orange or red peppers for vitamin C (since I hate all fruits, especially citrus) and a sprinkle of sunflower seeds. It's great t know I dont HAVE to eat more veggies that I dont even want JUST to get up to a certain number of carbs. I CAN get the extra carbs by adding more to my salad---a bit of tomato, a bit of avocado, some sprouts, and so on. This probably isnt a big deal to veggie lovers---but I was sort of dreading having to sit down to yellow squash, zuccini, eggplant....yech. Spincah is great---and again, I can add it raw to my salads. What's funny is, I have said a gazillion times, "I could live on good salads and meat," meaning I could live forever without missing most cooked veggies. What a relief to learn I CAN create extravagant salads to fill my carb needs, without "forcing" cooked veggies. I DO like asparagus, Brussels sprouts and cabbage, tho....so, it looks like a more or less perfect arrangement for Life. I especially took heed to Atkins warnings about the danger of EVER tempting fate with a piece of sugary desert or white flour products---Why wake the seeping dragon if you KNOW you're addicted? I understand that some folks CAN...but Im not one of them, LOL. Im confident that for me, saying, "This one piece of cake wont get me started...." would be like a reformed crack addict thinking, "Just this one little bowl wont hurt me." Ive HAD the experience of thinking, "This ONE cigarette wont get me started smoking agan." Yeah....right. I bought a pack on the way home....and a carton before the week was out----AFTER three years of NON smoking. ONE was all it took. OK---I GET it. For me, forever, NO sugar, NO white flour. They are poison to me. LassChance Start LC~5-16-05 202-193-165 (i usually weigh on Sunday) |
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I had not realized DANDR was available on audio cassette. Does Atkins
himself do the narration? I agree that carbing up is dangerous. It took me 6 weeks to break the carb cravings, and I don't want to risk triggering their return. "Lass Chance" wrote in message ... OK---the book was received and read cover to cover. Or, cassette to cassette, as the case may be. The big thing I learned was I dont HAVE to keep adding five carbs a day/per week until I reach 50 or 60 or whatever my personal magic number is. I guess I was under the impression one NEEDS to consume as many carbs in veggies and nuts and so on as can be tolerated for health reasons. I was wondering how I was gonna cram THAT many veggies in as veggies arent much my thing, anyway. The only veggie dish Im crazy about happens to be salad---with a good mix of field greens, some orange or red peppers for vitamin C (since I hate all fruits, especially citrus) and a sprinkle of sunflower seeds. It's great t know I dont HAVE to eat more veggies that I dont even want JUST to get up to a certain number of carbs. I CAN get the extra carbs by adding more to my salad---a bit of tomato, a bit of avocado, some sprouts, and so on. This probably isnt a big deal to veggie lovers---but I was sort of dreading having to sit down to yellow squash, zuccini, eggplant....yech. Spincah is great---and again, I can add it raw to my salads. What's funny is, I have said a gazillion times, "I could live on good salads and meat," meaning I could live forever without missing most cooked veggies. What a relief to learn I CAN create extravagant salads to fill my carb needs, without "forcing" cooked veggies. I DO like asparagus, Brussels sprouts and cabbage, tho....so, it looks like a more or less perfect arrangement for Life. I especially took heed to Atkins warnings about the danger of EVER tempting fate with a piece of sugary desert or white flour products---Why wake the seeping dragon if you KNOW you're addicted? I understand that some folks CAN...but Im not one of them, LOL. Im confident that for me, saying, "This one piece of cake wont get me started...." would be like a reformed crack addict thinking, "Just this one little bowl wont hurt me." Ive HAD the experience of thinking, "This ONE cigarette wont get me started smoking agan." Yeah....right. I bought a pack on the way home....and a carton before the week was out----AFTER three years of NON smoking. ONE was all it took. OK---I GET it. For me, forever, NO sugar, NO white flour. They are poison to me. LassChance Start LC~5-16-05 202-193-165 (i usually weigh on Sunday) |
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Cubit---I dont know whether Atkins puts out a taped version. I get my
books on tape from the Library for the Blind, where every popular book is recorded within a year of it's publication, usually. They have a staff of professional readers-- LOL, in fact, one thing I dearly love is, in many cases, if the author is English, the reader will be English. If the author is a female, the reader will be female. Some of the readers switch accents to match the character 'speaking". It's wonderful! I "read" an Anne Rice book tha had characters from Scotland, France, Louisianna and the Carribbean---and the female reader did ALL the accents, beautifully. LassChance Start LC~5-16-05 202-193-165 (i usually weigh on Sunday) |
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Lass Chance wrote:
OK---the book was received and read cover to cover. Or, cassette to cassette, as the case may be. Was it the entire book on cassette? I originally got the two cassette set and it was a small abbreviation of the entire book. Wonderfull starting point but I still needed to read the book to get the rest of the plan. The big thing I learned was I dont HAVE to keep adding five carbs a day/per week until I reach 50 or 60 or whatever my personal magic number is. I guess I was under the impression one NEEDS to consume as many carbs in veggies and nuts and so on as can be tolerated for health reasons. Moving on the OWL is still the standard plan and the standard plan is still the result of decades of work on the part of Dr A to gt the very best results the most often. He gives permission to stay low, and there are no health risks as long as you do follow all of the rules for Induction (Go to some anti-Atkins sites and you will see folks who managed to make themselves sick staying low. None followed the actual rules for Induction). Do not imagine that "no health risks" equals "optimal loss for the most people". Go ahead and try staying low if you want, but the very first thing to think of at every turn is moving on to the rest of the standard plan. Extending Induction is a variation on the process. It's an authorized variation so there's no health risk. But the entire process was designed to give the best loss for the most people. Ask yourself - Knowing that the entire plan is designed for the best loss, exactly why are you deviating from the entire process? I was wondering how I was gonna cram THAT many veggies in Follow the carb ladder and it will be different veggies rather than more. You can get up to over 40 by eating an entire head of cauliflower, or you can use the carb ladder and get their with sensible portions of items not on the Induction list. as veggies arent much my thing, anyway. Whew! Good thing the world works by magic because I happen to have a "blessed wand of adulthood (8)" in my hand. Zap! And bingo you magically don't have problems with veggies any more. The only veggie dish Im crazy about happens to be salad---with a good mix of field greens, some orange or red peppers for vitamin C Flippancy aside you aren't in all that bad a situation. Those *are* veggies. Do take it on faith that you like more veggies than you think. Do some afirmations about looking forward to yummy colorful veggies if that's what it takes. Cook them less so they are more crisp and better tasting - some dislike veggies that have been reduced to mush but when they are done right the problem goes away. Children don't like veggies. Adults do like veggies. If that works to help you through the process, use it. if there's some other mental mechanism that will work for you, use that one. But be clear that disliking veggies is a mental hurdle inside your mid. (since I hate all fruits, especially citrus) "All fruits" says mental block. A couple of specific fruits says you have a more specific dislike. I dislike parsnips and bell peppers and I like basically all other fruits and veggies (at least I'm neutral or better about them all). So the "especially citrus" part doesn't strike me as a mental block issue. It's great t know I dont HAVE to eat more veggies that I dont even want JUST to get up to a certain number of carbs. More or different veggies. See the carb ladder for what to add when. Week three, more of the same. I CAN get the extra carbs by adding more to my salad---a bit of tomato, a bit of avocado, some sprouts, and so on. That is an excellent way to get from 20 to 25 for week three. Good job. What's funny is, I have said a gazillion times, "I could live on good salads and meat," meaning I could live forever without missing most cooked veggies. What a relief to learn I CAN create extravagant salads to fill my carb needs, without "forcing" cooked veggies. Forcing is the key. Don't force. Battle your own mind and you will fail. Work with your own mind to change this block. And don't boil those veggies into submission, pan fry them with oil and garlic only until they are crispy. I DO like asparagus, Brussels sprouts and cabbage, tho....so, it looks like a more or less perfect arrangement for Life. Those are core veggies, so I'm not sure what your problems with veggies are. Work on the other types, take your time. Try it with an open mind and you will discover you like many more types than you expect. And don't be surprised at a couple of strong dislikes. I especially took heed to Atkins warnings about the danger of EVER tempting fate with a piece of sugary desert or white flour products---Why wake the seeping dragon if you KNOW you're addicted? I understand that some folks CAN...but Im not one of them, LOL. Im confident that for me, saying, "This one piece of cake wont get me started...." would be like a reformed crack addict thinking, "Just this one little bowl wont hurt me." A point of Atkins is to add foods back in one by one, and to do so in a specific order based on risk. One at a time so if you get problems you knowwhat did it. Lower risk then higher risk so you build confidence steadily. At some point you're supposed to add back in everything but the highest risk ones. Along the way you are likely to hit a trigger food. Consider this a *victory* not a *defeat*. Sure, you'll need to retreat to Induction for a few days and all that. But since you were adding one food at a time you learned what triggered it. Knowledge is power. Knowing your trigger foods gives you exact knowledge of what to avoid forever. Right now you're guessing it was the cake. Good guess but not a sure thing. Was it the sugar in the frosting, the wheat in the cake, or some of the other ingredients. Ive HAD the experience of thinking, "This ONE cigarette wont get me started smoking agan." Yeah....right. I bought a pack on the way home....and a carton before the week was out----AFTER three years of NON smoking. ONE was all it took. OK---I GET it. For me, forever, NO sugar, NO white flour. They are poison to me. Labelling trigger foods poison is a most excellent idea. But checking them one by one to know which is and which isn't is an even better idea. Especially if you wait to do that check until you are well into the plan, you've lost plenty, you are nice and secure in the process. Atkins strarts out strict and gets gradually less so. Except that once you've found what your personal poisons are you will have to be strict with them. For some their poisions are anything above some carb level or glycemic index; for others their poisons are specific ingredients. |
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"Lass Chance" wrote in message ... Cubit---I dont know whether Atkins puts out a taped version. I get my books on tape from the Library for the Blind, where every popular book is recorded within a year of it's publication, usually. They have a staff of professional readers-- LOL, in fact, one thing I dearly love is, in many cases, if the author is English, the reader will be English. If the author is a female, the reader will be female. Some of the readers switch accents to match the character 'speaking". It's wonderful! I "read" an Anne Rice book tha had characters from Scotland, France, Louisianna and the Carribbean---and the female reader did ALL the accents, beautifully. Cool : ) I used to read for the RBPB equivalent in England, a bunch of us used to in college. We never managed that degree of sophistication, though! Nicky. -- A1c 10.5/4.5/6 Weight 95/77/72Kg 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 |
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"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message ups.com... You can get up to over 40 by eating an entire head of cauliflower, Not this year in sunny England - caulis are teeny, half a head pureed is a tablespoon serve each for my daughter and I! It's amazed me how many veggies I was sure I hated, I in fact love - spinach being a prime contender, I eat spinach raw or cooked nearly every day now! I only "discovered" asparagus this season, fantastic! I want some more to try on my new griddle, and it's already getting hard to find : ( I used to hate kale, too, and am slurping it up in kale-and-seaweed soup : ) I found some dried seaweed in a health-food store, and it tases great reconstituted! I'm trying to up the carbs a bit without rocking the blood glucose boat, see if I've stalled myself by staying too low. Nicky. -- A1c 10.5/4.5/6 Weight 95/77/72Kg 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 |
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"Nicky" wrote in message ... "Doug Freyburger" wrote in message ups.com... You can get up to over 40 by eating an entire head of cauliflower, Not this year in sunny England - caulis are teeny, half a head pureed is a tablespoon serve each for my daughter and I! It's amazed me how many veggies I was sure I hated, I in fact love - spinach being a prime contender, I eat spinach raw or cooked nearly every day now! I only "discovered" asparagus this season, fantastic! I want some more to try on my new griddle, and it's already getting hard to find : ( I used to hate kale, too, and am slurping it up in kale-and-seaweed soup : ) I found some dried seaweed in a health-food store, and it tases great reconstituted! I have been attempting to expand my veggies list for years.. despite this I still hate mushrooms, zuccini and fried squash.. mashed with butter isnt so bad. Spinach is still out after many attempts to like it and so is canned asparrugus.. frozen is not too bad Tori -- Xavier 10/04 "Hey mommy I can reach the middle of the coffee table if I stand right here" Bonnie 3/02 "No Xayur thats my blankie" 349.5/324/135 |
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"Tori M." wrote in message
... I have been attempting to expand my veggies list for years.. despite this I still hate mushrooms, zuccini and fried squash.. mashed with butter isnt so bad. Spinach is still out after many attempts to like it and so is canned asparrugus.. frozen is not too bad There's a lot of stuff I thought I hated but it turned out I hated them the way DH likes them. He likes canned asparagus, I tried it and it was slimy and gross. Then we went to a steak dinner at his work and they served some grilled fresh asparagus, it was good. -- No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes |
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