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Old November 21st, 2003, 03:31 PM
Joyce
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

And where can I find whole flaxseed? I have heard others mention this, have
stayed away from it because of the points others say it holds. Do you count the
points? I don't have points to spare!!! hehehe

I usually don't have this problem, tend to only have it if my schedule gets
whacked. If I'm in a rush, don't have time - body seems to forget about it until
a morning when I do have time. I do think it also isn't helping that this week I
haven't been drinking my water.

Joyce


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:01:32 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Joyce. 1 T of flaxseed (whole) followed by a large glass of water. Dump
the little rascals in your mouth, drink the water. Cheap, not unpleasant
once you get into the habit, slippery fiber. NEVER have that problem.
Ever.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I still think there are too many variables to account for ... at least it

seems so
for me. Some mornings my body just refuses to cooperate (today was one of

those
days) ... refusing to get rid of all excess waste in a timely manor. G

Hey,
maybe it's the broccoli? I also had broccoli for dinner last nite

(wednesday),
and lots of it. Nice healthy vegetable, but it's still sitting in me

somewhere as
I type this in the friday morning wee hours. G

If you want that 155, I don't doubt that you'll get it. Remember how I

kept
saying that for some reason 130 was sticking in my head, but the body was

refusing
to budge from 135? Somehow when I wasn't looking, the numbers did creep

down ...
a very few ounces up and down at a time. Now I'm hovering in THAT zone.

I think
our bodies valiantly try to keep us where we are when we are in a healthy

zone.

Joyce


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:41:16 -0800, Fred

wrote:

NO, it canNOT! (sniff)

I fast until WI!!!! (G)

Hey, up, down,up, down is normal unless you want 155 which maybe it
not acceptable. Because you are right - too much broccoli the night
before and UP.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:03:43 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey, .4 sounds danged good to me! Heck Fred, that could be a few sips

of
coffee/water in the morning. Definitely another successful week for

you!

Joyce


On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:50:44 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002




  #22  
Old November 21st, 2003, 03:54 PM
krys
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

These things are sent to try us?

I'll stop soon - honest *grin*

Sorry for the gain - may next week be nicer

--
krys

UK 157/137.4/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001
struggling now.......


"Fred" wrote in message
...
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002



  #23  
Old November 21st, 2003, 04:23 PM
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

It is things like that that I am trying to mentally capture - to
remind myself of what is so terrific about keeping the intake
reasonable. Why I like being this weight should be strong reminder..

And you know, I also feel much younger. I just do - walking down the
street or biking, dressed up or dressed down.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:55:11 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

My kid has been playing a lot. I have been getting on all the "stuff" at
the parks with DGD. Slides and things. It was so neat to find that I fit.
I never remember fitting. Inside all the little tubes and stuff. The other
day I even did one of those things where you grab the bars over your head
(like a ladder) and pull yourself across. I was astonished that I could.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I am or maybe I should say, MAYBE, burning dvd at this very moment
with some hiking trips. Takes hours and I don't trust any of the
operations from the software to the hardware to the user.

Ah, I think your not carrying on too much. There is a child in all of
us lurking at the very least.

Go for it..........

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:18:40 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

BARE? Send video. I think maybe I am getting too frisky here
lately?
It is hanging around with my little granddaughter, makes me feel all

young.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
You and Lesanne with the BARE stuff (G)

Normal fluctuations are normal - repeat 100 times (G)

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:22:12 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Sorry for the gain but that is something that you will probably have

to
live
with for the rest of your life. Keeping the fluctations to a bare

minimum
is
the key. You did good this week. You still are an inspiration to the

rest
of
us losers.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002





  #24  
Old November 21st, 2003, 04:32 PM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

(had to pause to get my whole grain oatmeal for breakfast - the 1 inch
of snow on the ground was incentive for a hot breakfast!!!)

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:57:28 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I still think there are too many variables to account for ... at least it seems so
for me. Some mornings my body just refuses to cooperate (today was one of those
days) ... refusing to get rid of all excess waste in a timely manor. G Hey,
maybe it's the broccoli? I also had broccoli for dinner last nite (wednesday),
and lots of it. Nice healthy vegetable, but it's still sitting in me somewhere as
I type this in the friday morning wee hours. G


I agree on a logical level. It is the emotional level where those who
have had weight problems get troubled by the up, even minor. I think
that I am adjusting to the mini-fluctuations (see below) - I HOPE SO.

If you want that 155, I don't doubt that you'll get it. Remember how I kept
saying that for some reason 130 was sticking in my head, but the body was refusing
to budge from 135? Somehow when I wasn't looking, the numbers did creep down ...
a very few ounces up and down at a time. Now I'm hovering in THAT zone. I think
our bodies valiantly try to keep us where we are when we are in a healthy zone.


Well, today I was 157 on the home scale and I have not seen that on
quite a while. I have been good the last two nights - really limited
snacking. Just an item or two, not a bunch of different snacks
endlessly.





On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:41:16 -0800, Fred wrote:

NO, it canNOT! (sniff)

I fast until WI!!!! (G)

Hey, up, down,up, down is normal unless you want 155 which maybe it
not acceptable. Because you are right - too much broccoli the night
before and UP.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:03:43 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey, .4 sounds danged good to me! Heck Fred, that could be a few sips of
coffee/water in the morning. Definitely another successful week for you!

Joyce


On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:50:44 -0800, Fred wrote:

Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002


  #25  
Old November 21st, 2003, 04:33 PM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

Funny, I skipped the flax seed oil this morning figuring I would add
those points to tomorrow's pre-ski breakfast. Oatmeal, flax oil,
sardines and then whatever for the trail.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:01:32 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Joyce. 1 T of flaxseed (whole) followed by a large glass of water. Dump
the little rascals in your mouth, drink the water. Cheap, not unpleasant
once you get into the habit, slippery fiber. NEVER have that problem.
Ever.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I still think there are too many variables to account for ... at least it

seems so
for me. Some mornings my body just refuses to cooperate (today was one of

those
days) ... refusing to get rid of all excess waste in a timely manor. G

Hey,
maybe it's the broccoli? I also had broccoli for dinner last nite

(wednesday),
and lots of it. Nice healthy vegetable, but it's still sitting in me

somewhere as
I type this in the friday morning wee hours. G

If you want that 155, I don't doubt that you'll get it. Remember how I

kept
saying that for some reason 130 was sticking in my head, but the body was

refusing
to budge from 135? Somehow when I wasn't looking, the numbers did creep

down ...
a very few ounces up and down at a time. Now I'm hovering in THAT zone.

I think
our bodies valiantly try to keep us where we are when we are in a healthy

zone.

Joyce


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:41:16 -0800, Fred

wrote:

NO, it canNOT! (sniff)

I fast until WI!!!! (G)

Hey, up, down,up, down is normal unless you want 155 which maybe it
not acceptable. Because you are right - too much broccoli the night
before and UP.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:03:43 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey, .4 sounds danged good to me! Heck Fred, that could be a few sips

of
coffee/water in the morning. Definitely another successful week for

you!

Joyce


On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:50:44 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002




  #26  
Old November 21st, 2003, 04:42 PM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!


THAT'S IT. The Fear of falling back. Those were all firmly
established HABITS. And maybe even instincts of some sort. Fighting
them, establishing new ones take effort.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:19:03 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:36:30 -0800, Fred wrote:

Yes, I guess staying reasonably under a goal I never expected to make
is actually quite excellent. One can understand how easy it is to
become too neurotic about all of this.


Ooooooooooh, I like the neurotic word! Maybe that's where I am? g Baby bro
told me today that I need to eat more fat, I look anorexic. I told him I am then
the first 130 pound anorexic who willingly eats several times per day that I have
ever known. G Of course, this is said by the guy who has just put on about 30
pounds by resuming old habits of eating unlimited quantities of icecream and chips
on a daily basis.


The Bros' habits were mine - I would find a quart of some ice cream
but then see another favorite flavor and even possibly a third. Buy
them all and fill a soup bowl and maybe a second. And the potato
chips accompanied me on my commute home. And you might think that
with all those chips, the ice cream would wait till the next day. NO,
I think the chips just stimulated some appetite and ice would follow
when I got home. I really do think that I put on the last 20 pounds
pretty blindly and very fast.

Out to lunch we went, dragging mom with us. Again I was told, *eat more fat!* ...
and the cheeseburger jumped off the menu and into my view. Waiter came around, I
ordered garlic chicken pasta (Dottie's says it's 11 points, but I sure don't see
where it can be that much, couldn't have had more than 2 ounces of chicken ... if
that ... and about a cup of angel hair). Oh, and I skipped desert. Dinner tonite
was a can of health valley soup (wonderful, wonderful, wonderfully high fiber and
nutritious) and a fantastic wheat pita sandwich.


I think you have me convinced that you are okay both mentally and
physically.

A coworker has been complaining that it is taking too much effort to
stick with it. He misses his beer weekends and snacks.


Sounds like coworker really doesn't have his mind into the game yet, or hasn't
found that *switch* we like to talk about.. I guess I can agree that following
any healthy plan does take a bit of effort ... I can't say that it took too MUCH
effort though - not for me anyway. After the initial few weeks it seemed like
everything fell into place in my head and it really was easy to continue on the
journey.


He is still young and he and his wife did it with borrowed materials
so maybe less vested in the program but he did lose about 40pounds.
He must have found the initial switch but maybe it is more like a foot
pedal switch - you need to constantly keep it engaged. It does not
just stay ON by itself.
Joyce


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:17:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Thanks. I am going to the meeting Saturday morning also to see what theirs
says. And check in with all my buddies. You are doing really well staying
away from the dreaded 164.


"Fred" wrote in message
...
Well, with your temps, a shark might visit those waters you visit.

Best for tomorrow.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:48 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Nah Fred, I might be lower on Saturday, but my average is going to be a
bit
over that unless I lose a leg or something tomorrow morning....

This morning I was 158.5, but the whole rest of this past week I was in
the
160's. Maybe I should go Back to my weigh in day weight just for This


Hahahahaha. Oh I am so bad. That .4 has to be clothes doesn't it?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002




  #27  
Old November 21st, 2003, 04:43 PM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:59:37 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

And I am Blissfully, Healthily, Happily neurotic as well. I am getting
those comments too, can you imagine, people calling a 159 pound woman
"gaunt"

I measured myself the other day incidentally, and shades of Zena, I am 40,
28,38. Not skinny by any means at all. Not even thin.


You women and figuring out your AGES!!! (gd&r)

So we have our own Warrior Princess.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:36:30 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Yes, I guess staying reasonably under a goal I never expected to make
is actually quite excellent. One can understand how easy it is to
become too neurotic about all of this.


Ooooooooooh, I like the neurotic word! Maybe that's where I am? g Baby

bro
told me today that I need to eat more fat, I look anorexic. I told him I

am then
the first 130 pound anorexic who willingly eats several times per day that

I have
ever known. G Of course, this is said by the guy who has just put on

about 30
pounds by resuming old habits of eating unlimited quantities of icecream

and chips
on a daily basis.

Out to lunch we went, dragging mom with us. Again I was told, *eat more

fat!* ...
and the cheeseburger jumped off the menu and into my view. Waiter came

around, I
ordered garlic chicken pasta (Dottie's says it's 11 points, but I sure

don't see
where it can be that much, couldn't have had more than 2 ounces of chicken

... if
that ... and about a cup of angel hair). Oh, and I skipped desert.

Dinner tonite
was a can of health valley soup (wonderful, wonderful, wonderfully high

fiber and
nutritious) and a fantastic wheat pita sandwich.

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old

trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

A coworker has been complaining that it is taking too much effort to
stick with it. He misses his beer weekends and snacks.


Sounds like coworker really doesn't have his mind into the game yet, or

hasn't
found that *switch* we like to talk about.. I guess I can agree that

following
any healthy plan does take a bit of effort ... I can't say that it took

too MUCH
effort though - not for me anyway. After the initial few weeks it seemed

like
everything fell into place in my head and it really was easy to continue

on the
journey.

Joyce


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:17:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Thanks. I am going to the meeting Saturday morning also to see what

theirs
says. And check in with all my buddies. You are doing really well

staying
away from the dreaded 164.


"Fred" wrote in message
. ..
Well, with your temps, a shark might visit those waters you visit.

Best for tomorrow.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:48 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Nah Fred, I might be lower on Saturday, but my average is going to be

a
bit
over that unless I lose a leg or something tomorrow morning....

This morning I was 158.5, but the whole rest of this past week I was

in
the
160's. Maybe I should go Back to my weigh in day weight just for

This


Hahahahaha. Oh I am so bad. That .4 has to be clothes doesn't it?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002






  #28  
Old November 21st, 2003, 04:46 PM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

Yes and also the entire social scene - peer or maybe beer pressure (G)

It is the thing to do, I did it, too. And one beer generally leads to
another. Hanging with friends.......

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:57:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I have noticed several people at my meeting that got stalled 20 or 30 pounds
away from goal, who tend to resist giving up wine or beer on a Regular basis
(every weekend). They also tend to lose their inhibitions and eat more. I
gave up my occational wine early on because it made me want to eat more, and
used food points that I needed to eat. I wonder?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I guess staying reasonably under a goal I never expected to make
is actually quite excellent. One can understand how easy it is to
become too neurotic about all of this.

A coworker has been complaining that it is taking too much effort to
stick with it. He misses his beer weekends and snacks.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:17:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Thanks. I am going to the meeting Saturday morning also to see what

theirs
says. And check in with all my buddies. You are doing really well

staying
away from the dreaded 164.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, with your temps, a shark might visit those waters you visit.

Best for tomorrow.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:48 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Nah Fred, I might be lower on Saturday, but my average is going to be

a
bit
over that unless I lose a leg or something tomorrow morning....

This morning I was 158.5, but the whole rest of this past week I was

in
the
160's. Maybe I should go Back to my weigh in day weight just for This


Hahahahaha. Oh I am so bad. That .4 has to be clothes doesn't it?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002






  #29  
Old November 21st, 2003, 04:48 PM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:54:57 -0000, "krys"
wrote:

These things are sent to try us?


Please accompany the witness to the gallows!!!!!!!! (G)

I'll stop soon - honest *grin*


Yeah, sure. Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole
truth..........

Sorry for the gain - may next week be nicer


  #30  
Old November 21st, 2003, 06:40 PM
Miss Violette
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Default NYNY - Fred - Nov 19

shifting into a size six would give me incentive to do tread mill , Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
I'm tellin' ya, they're all freakin' nutz! (or as the bumper sticker on

hubbys
drs. car reads ... nuckin futz) Where do they come up with stuff like

this?
Evidentally it bugged me enough that I asked hub if I looked anorexic ..

he just
laughed at me and told me not to worry. Measurements? 37, 28, 35 ... a

fur piece
from doing a disappearing act. Like you, I don't think the numbers say

thin
either - but the clothing sizes seem to. Bought my very first size small

sweaters
yesterday (obviously was a fluke) and did need some new jeans as the butt

is
sagging dramatically in my old ones ... size ... hang onto your shorts

here 6!
Fit beautifully. The treadmill doesn't appear to be doing anything for me
weightwise, but I think there is a bunch of shifting going on. g

Joyce


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:59:37 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

And I am Blissfully, Healthily, Happily neurotic as well. I am getting
those comments too, can you imagine, people calling a 159 pound woman
"gaunt"

I measured myself the other day incidentally, and shades of Zena, I am

40,
28,38. Not skinny by any means at all. Not even thin.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:36:30 -0800, Fred

wrote:

Yes, I guess staying reasonably under a goal I never expected to make
is actually quite excellent. One can understand how easy it is to
become too neurotic about all of this.

Ooooooooooh, I like the neurotic word! Maybe that's where I am? g

Baby
bro
told me today that I need to eat more fat, I look anorexic. I told him

I
am then
the first 130 pound anorexic who willingly eats several times per day t

hat
I have
ever known. G Of course, this is said by the guy who has just put on

about 30
pounds by resuming old habits of eating unlimited quantities of

icecream
and chips
on a daily basis.

Out to lunch we went, dragging mom with us. Again I was told, *eat

more
fat!* ...
and the cheeseburger jumped off the menu and into my view. Waiter came

around, I
ordered garlic chicken pasta (Dottie's says it's 11 points, but I sure

don't see
where it can be that much, couldn't have had more than 2 ounces of

chicken
... if
that ... and about a cup of angel hair). Oh, and I skipped desert.

Dinner tonite
was a can of health valley soup (wonderful, wonderful, wonderfully high

fiber and
nutritious) and a fantastic wheat pita sandwich.

neurotic? Maybe, I don't know. Fear of falling into the same old

trappings I
have worked so hard to free myself of? Definitely!

A coworker has been complaining that it is taking too much effort to
stick with it. He misses his beer weekends and snacks.

Sounds like coworker really doesn't have his mind into the game yet, or

hasn't
found that *switch* we like to talk about.. I guess I can agree that

following
any healthy plan does take a bit of effort ... I can't say that it took

too MUCH
effort though - not for me anyway. After the initial few weeks it

seemed
like
everything fell into place in my head and it really was easy to

continue
on the
journey.

Joyce


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:17:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Thanks. I am going to the meeting Saturday morning also to see what

theirs
says. And check in with all my buddies. You are doing really well

staying
away from the dreaded 164.


"Fred" wrote in message
. ..
Well, with your temps, a shark might visit those waters you visit.

Best for tomorrow.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:25:48 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Nah Fred, I might be lower on Saturday, but my average is going to

be
a
bit
over that unless I lose a leg or something tomorrow morning....

This morning I was 158.5, but the whole rest of this past week I

was
in
the
160's. Maybe I should go Back to my weigh in day weight just for

This


Hahahahaha. Oh I am so bad. That .4 has to be clothes doesn't

it?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Darn, Lesanne may do it again this week! It probably was the
goosebump enhanced flesh!! (G)

Up: 0.4
Current Weight 159.4

Fred
219.2/159.4/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002








 




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