Sugar Alcohol Suspicion

I've lost over 60 lbs by cutting out sugar, potatos, rice and getting
my heart rate going in the mornings for 15 minutes.

Last night I had snickers chocolate bar after almost one year and it
was damn good.

Feeling guilty and wondering where science has taken us lately I ran
over to publixs and picked three popular low carb chocolate bars which
are still in the wrappers.

One thing I noticed is how they are cleverly packaged to conceal the
the Nutritional Facts.

Dumb question number one. Does a normal chocalate bar have
normal/natural sugar acohols that are not reported?

Is there a real science to creating and using sugar acohols or this is
BS diet science?

The only BS about sugar alcohol's is the claim that they don't raise blood
sugar which is true for some but false for many others.

I've written up the low carb diet scams at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


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I've lost over 60 lbs by cutting out sugar, potatos, rice and getting
my heart rate going in the mornings for 15 minutes.

Last night I had snickers chocolate bar after almost one year and it
was damn good.

Feeling guilty and wondering where science has taken us lately I ran
over to publixs and picked three popular low carb chocolate bars which
are still in the wrappers.

One thing I noticed is how they are cleverly packaged to conceal the
the Nutritional Facts.

Dumb question number one. Does a normal chocalate bar have
normal/natural sugar acohols that are not reported?

Is there a real science to creating and using sugar acohols or this is
BS diet science?

The only BS about sugar alcohol's is the claim that they don't raise blood
sugar which is true for some but false for many others.

I've written up the low carb diet scams at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


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I've lost over 60 lbs by cutting out sugar, potatos, rice and getting
my heart rate going in the mornings for 15 minutes.

Last night I had snickers chocolate bar after almost one year and it
was damn good.

Feeling guilty and wondering where science has taken us lately I ran
over to publixs and picked three popular low carb chocolate bars which
are still in the wrappers.

One thing I noticed is how they are cleverly packaged to conceal the
the Nutritional Facts.

Dumb question number one. Does a normal chocalate bar have
normal/natural sugar acohols that are not reported?

Is there a real science to creating and using sugar acohols or this is
BS diet science?

: I've lost over 60 lbs by cutting out sugar, potatos, rice and getting
: my heart rate going in the mornings for 15 minutes.

Good work. And, I know it was work.
:
: Last night I had snickers chocolate bar after almost one year and it
: was damn good.

This part, I don't understand. My personal experience has been that being so
long without sugary products, I find I have lost all satisfaction from them
when I do eat them. I tried a Snickers bar in October and my first
impression was not "damn good" but "way too sugary".

:
: Feeling guilty and wondering where science has taken us lately I ran
: over to publixs and picked three popular low carb chocolate bars which
: are still in the wrappers.

You would be wise to return them if your store will let you.

:
: One thing I noticed is how they are cleverly packaged to conceal the
: the Nutritional Facts.
:
: Dumb question number one. Does a normal chocalate bar have
: normal/natural sugar acohols that are not reported?
:
: Is there a real science to creating and using sugar acohols or this is
: BS diet science?

I don't know about the science involved, but I do know the bars will give
you a certain amount of gastric distress. Don't stray from home after eating
one. You'll need to use the facilities, if you know what I mean.

Pat in TX

: I've lost over 60 lbs by cutting out sugar, potatos, rice and getting
: my heart rate going in the mornings for 15 minutes.

Good work. And, I know it was work.
:
: Last night I had snickers chocolate bar after almost one year and it
: was damn good.

This part, I don't understand. My personal experience has been that being so
long without sugary products, I find I have lost all satisfaction from them
when I do eat them. I tried a Snickers bar in October and my first
impression was not "damn good" but "way too sugary".

:
: Feeling guilty and wondering where science has taken us lately I ran
: over to publixs and picked three popular low carb chocolate bars which
: are still in the wrappers.

You would be wise to return them if your store will let you.

:
: One thing I noticed is how they are cleverly packaged to conceal the
: the Nutritional Facts.
:
: Dumb question number one. Does a normal chocalate bar have
: normal/natural sugar acohols that are not reported?
:
: Is there a real science to creating and using sugar acohols or this is
: BS diet science?

I don't know about the science involved, but I do know the bars will give
you a certain amount of gastric distress. Don't stray from home after eating
one. You'll need to use the facilities, if you know what I mean.

Pat in TX

wrote:

I've lost over 60 lbs by cutting out sugar, potatos, rice and getting
my heart rate going in the mornings for 15 minutes.

Last night I had snickers chocolate bar after almost one year and it
was damn good.

Feeling guilty and wondering where science has taken us lately I ran
over to publixs and picked three popular low carb chocolate bars which
are still in the wrappers.

One thing I noticed is how they are cleverly packaged to conceal the
the Nutritional Facts.

Dumb question number one. Does a normal chocalate bar have
normal/natural sugar acohols that are not reported?

Is there a real science to creating and using sugar acohols or this is
BS diet science?

Pat is right. A lot of people do have problems depending upon the
quantity they eat. SA's have never affected me like that but certain
SA products give me an embarassing amount of flatulence for about 24
hours afterwards. Like Pat, I don't want to leave the house when that
happens. Inulin does it too.

SAs have their place. I think making foods forbideen and evil is a
psychological trap because we all know about "forbidden fruit" and
once we give in (and we will at times throughout the rest of our
lives) it will only make us feel worse for each "horrible"
transgression. That's not a healthy way to deal with temptation.
Especially with something so basic as foods. I use SA products to
satisfy cravings and limit their effects on blood sugar/chemistry.



DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/269/Nov-262/225
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint. not counting (CCLL=50-60)

wrote:

I've lost over 60 lbs by cutting out sugar, potatos, rice and getting
my heart rate going in the mornings for 15 minutes.

Last night I had snickers chocolate bar after almost one year and it
was damn good.

Feeling guilty and wondering where science has taken us lately I ran
over to publixs and picked three popular low carb chocolate bars which
are still in the wrappers.

One thing I noticed is how they are cleverly packaged to conceal the
the Nutritional Facts.

Dumb question number one. Does a normal chocalate bar have
normal/natural sugar acohols that are not reported?

Is there a real science to creating and using sugar acohols or this is
BS diet science?

Pat is right. A lot of people do have problems depending upon the
quantity they eat. SA's have never affected me like that but certain
SA products give me an embarassing amount of flatulence for about 24
hours afterwards. Like Pat, I don't want to leave the house when that
happens. Inulin does it too.

SAs have their place. I think making foods forbideen and evil is a
psychological trap because we all know about "forbidden fruit" and
once we give in (and we will at times throughout the rest of our
lives) it will only make us feel worse for each "horrible"
transgression. That's not a healthy way to deal with temptation.
Especially with something so basic as foods. I use SA products to
satisfy cravings and limit their effects on blood sugar/chemistry.



DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/269/Nov-262/225
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint. not counting (CCLL=50-60)

DigitalVinyl wrote:
|| SAs have their place. I think making foods forbideen and evil is a
|| psychological trap because we all know about "forbidden fruit" and
|| once we give in (and we will at times throughout the rest of our
|| lives) it will only make us feel worse for each "horrible"
|| transgression. That's not a healthy way to deal with temptation.

Just wondering: why not? If we have weight problems and slip up from time
to time, why is feeling badly about it such a problem? If we feel good
about it, then we'll likely to continue the activity. A certain amount of
guilt ain't so bad. Of course, if you're ready to produce some extreme
reaction, that can be bad.

|| Especially with something so basic as foods. I use SA products to
|| satisfy cravings and limit their effects on blood sugar/chemistry.

If you were referring to eating broccoli or a piece of meat, I'd agree.
However, eating a peice of SA candy (or any kind of candy) is not really
very basic.

I do agree that it is silly to label any food "evil". But certainly there
may be problems for some of us if we eat certain foods. The act of a
diabetic or a person will strong carb addiction eating certain foods can be
considered a "bad" activity for that person.

DigitalVinyl wrote:
|| SAs have their place. I think making foods forbideen and evil is a
|| psychological trap because we all know about "forbidden fruit" and
|| once we give in (and we will at times throughout the rest of our
|| lives) it will only make us feel worse for each "horrible"
|| transgression. That's not a healthy way to deal with temptation.

Just wondering: why not? If we have weight problems and slip up from time
to time, why is feeling badly about it such a problem? If we feel good
about it, then we'll likely to continue the activity. A certain amount of
guilt ain't so bad. Of course, if you're ready to produce some extreme
reaction, that can be bad.

|| Especially with something so basic as foods. I use SA products to
|| satisfy cravings and limit their effects on blood sugar/chemistry.

If you were referring to eating broccoli or a piece of meat, I'd agree.
However, eating a peice of SA candy (or any kind of candy) is not really
very basic.

I do agree that it is silly to label any food "evil". But certainly there
may be problems for some of us if we eat certain foods. The act of a
diabetic or a person will strong carb addiction eating certain foods can be
considered a "bad" activity for that person.

"Roger Zoul" wrote:

DigitalVinyl wrote:
|| SAs have their place. I think making foods forbideen and evil is a
|| psychological trap because we all know about "forbidden fruit" and
|| once we give in (and we will at times throughout the rest of our
|| lives) it will only make us feel worse for each "horrible"
|| transgression. That's not a healthy way to deal with temptation.

Just wondering: why not? If we have weight problems and slip up from time
to time, why is feeling badly about it such a problem? If we feel good
about it, then we'll likely to continue the activity. A certain amount of
guilt ain't so bad. Of course, if you're ready to produce some extreme
reaction, that can be bad.

That's where I was going with that. Often we make food out as the
enemy, when often it is just a coping method for other problems.
Making yourself feel guilty over eating something... anything in a day
in your life is probably the least healthy way of dealing. No matter
how much you over indulge it is one meal in one day out of over 10,000
days in your life. Guilt usually doesn't result in constructive
behavior, more superficial ones IMHO. Recognizing the cost of that
meal, how hard it will take to work that off, recognizing and
attaching consequence to the indulgence is constructive. Feeling
guilty over being "bad" is just a feeling, and often feelings don't
follow logic, facts, or common sense.

|| Especially with something so basic as foods. I use SA products to
|| satisfy cravings and limit their effects on blood sugar/chemistry.

If you were referring to eating broccoli or a piece of meat, I'd agree.
However, eating a peice of SA candy (or any kind of candy) is not really
very basic.

I consider Chocolate to be amongst the basic food groups. :-)

I do agree that it is silly to label any food "evil". But certainly there
may be problems for some of us if we eat certain foods. The act of a
diabetic or a person will strong carb addiction eating certain foods can be
considered a "bad" activity for that person.

It is an unhealthy thing, it is an action with consequences. However
"bad" too often is attached to a moral judgement. I don't think you
have to look far for examples of overweight people being looked down
on as slovenly, lazy, unmotivated, weak, gluttonous, and more. I think
"bad" can easily tap into that cultural stigma and make us identify
too closely with that stereotype. Suddenly an overindulgence makes us
guilty of being all those bad things. Looking at it that way I can see
why people give up and put lots of weight back on. The indulgence
becomes a great failure.

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/269/Nov-262/225
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint. not counting (CCLL=50-60)