Atkins Advantage bars + Chocolate question

I tried an Atkins Advantage bar last night (Chocolate Decadence) and, boy,
was I disappointed. Luckily, I didn't have any of the intestinal distress
that a lot of people have reported on this newsgroup, but I found the taste
and texture to be really 'fake.' Plus, it cost a bunch of cash (relatively)
and I know that I got suckered. Live and learn!

I have tried Endulge bars (regular and with crispies) and they are not too
bad, but they kind of taste 'fake,' too. However, they are miles above
Advantage bars IMO.

I don't consider myself a chocoholic but I guess that I knew good chocolate
when I tasted it.

How is the taste of the new sugar free Hershey stuff? I checked it out in
the store one time and thought that it was still too many carbs for me. But
does it taste more like real chocolate than the Atkins products?

Thinking I should just give up chocolate altogether,
Linda

Or try the Russell Stovers chocolates, sugar free.
Very good, imho.
Jackie
"Ignoramus19207" wrote in message
...

You are trying wrong stuff. The LC sweet chocolate is likely worse
than regular chocolate.

Go to the baking section of your supermarket and check out
"unsweetened baking squares". They sell them in boxes containins 8 1
oz individually wrapped chocolate squares.

Warning: they are not sweet. They do have some bitterness in their
taste, in fact, of the chocolatey kind. But,m they are real chocolate
and not fake low carb "chocolate". They do not taste like candy at all.

Be careful with them also. They are really low carb, but pack lots of
calories.

i

I recently posted how I make my chocolate. It's much cheaper and better
than a lot of the stuff out there. http://tinyurl.com/z155

And, I admit the advantage bars take some getting used to, but they do
hit the spot sometimes when you need something to fill you up. I found
I got addicted to them, though and so I stopped eating them.

Jim



Ignoramus19207 wrote:
You are trying wrong stuff. The LC sweet chocolate is likely worse
than regular chocolate.

Go to the baking section of your supermarket and check out
"unsweetened baking squares". They sell them in boxes containins 8 1
oz individually wrapped chocolate squares.

Warning: they are not sweet. They do have some bitterness in their
taste, in fact, of the chocolatey kind. But,m they are real chocolate
and not fake low carb "chocolate". They do not taste like candy at all.

Be careful with them also. They are really low carb, but pack lots of
calories.

i


--
Jim Marnott
231/194/194 (Hit goal on 22 Nov '03 -- exactly 6 months later)
Atkins since 22 May '03
Gym since 1 sept '03

Are you low carbing to lose weight?

If so, you'll be much more likely to succeed if you bypass all the supposed
"low carb" treats. Or at least treat the carb counts on the label as if they
meant what they said, because for most of us they do.

Otherwise, you are likely to join the legions of folks who say, "I tried
low carbing for a while, but it didn't work." Since the advent of low carb
junk food everywhere, there are more and more of them.

-- Jenny

Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address!
New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm
Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 -
HBa1c 5.2 10/03
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * Do Starch Blockers Work? * NEW! Why the Low Carb Diet
is Great for Diabetes * NEW! Low Carb Strategies for People with Diabetes


"Lady o' the house" wrote in message
...
I tried an Atkins Advantage bar last night (Chocolate Decadence) and, boy,
was I disappointed. Luckily, I didn't have any of the intestinal distress
that a lot of people have reported on this newsgroup, but I found the
taste
and texture to be really 'fake.' Plus, it cost a bunch of cash
(relatively)
and I know that I got suckered. Live and learn!

I have tried Endulge bars (regular and with crispies) and they are not too
bad, but they kind of taste 'fake,' too. However, they are miles above
Advantage bars IMO.

I don't consider myself a chocoholic but I guess that I knew good
chocolate
when I tasted it.

How is the taste of the new sugar free Hershey stuff? I checked it out in
the store one time and thought that it was still too many carbs for me.
But
does it taste more like real chocolate than the Atkins products?

Thinking I should just give up chocolate altogether,
Linda

Yes, I am low carbing to lose weight. I've been "behaving" myself and I've
sworn off all white and brown sugar, flour products, etc. Meat and
vegetables have been my diet for the last 2 1/2 months. I've slowly lost 16
pounds, so I think I'm on the right track. I had just wanted to try it, and
wondered what others had thought about the Atkins products.

The only real junk foods I allow myself now are Diet Rite and an occasional
Endulge bar (1 every 3 weeks or so). I do agree that most "low carb" treats
are over-priced and not worth buying. Since startng my willpower has been
great. I've 'bypassed' lots of junk food since I've started low carbing.

But regarding your advice to "bypass all the supposed 'low carb' treats:"
isn't a WOE or diet much harder to follow if you can't allow yourself a
small treat once in a while? I'd much rather treat myself with a low carb
candy bar than blow my progress with a regular Hershey bar. Besides, low
carbing IS working for me, so I don't plan to give it up.

Linda

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Are you low carbing to lose weight?

If so, you'll be much more likely to succeed if you bypass all the
supposed
"low carb" treats. Or at least treat the carb counts on the label as if
they
meant what they said, because for most of us they do.

Otherwise, you are likely to join the legions of folks who say, "I tried
low carbing for a while, but it didn't work." Since the advent of low
carb
junk food everywhere, there are more and more of them.

-- Jenny

Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address!
New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm
Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 -
HBa1c 5.2 10/03
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger
Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * Do Starch Blockers Work? * NEW! Why the Low Carb
Diet
is Great for Diabetes * NEW! Low Carb Strategies for People with
Diabetes


"Lady o' the house" wrote in message
...
I tried an Atkins Advantage bar last night (Chocolate Decadence) and,
boy,
was I disappointed. Luckily, I didn't have any of the intestinal
distress
that a lot of people have reported on this newsgroup, but I found the
taste
and texture to be really 'fake.' Plus, it cost a bunch of cash
(relatively)
and I know that I got suckered. Live and learn!

I have tried Endulge bars (regular and with crispies) and they are not
too
bad, but they kind of taste 'fake,' too. However, they are miles above
Advantage bars IMO.

I don't consider myself a chocoholic but I guess that I knew good
chocolate
when I tasted it.

How is the taste of the new sugar free Hershey stuff? I checked it out
in
the store one time and thought that it was still too many carbs for me.
But
does it taste more like real chocolate than the Atkins products?

Thinking I should just give up chocolate altogether,
Linda

Thanks for the recipe, Jim. I missed it the first time, but I've saved it
and will definitely try it!

Linda

"Jim Marnott" wrote in message
.. .
I recently posted how I make my chocolate. It's much cheaper and better
than a lot of the stuff out there. http://tinyurl.com/z155

And, I admit the advantage bars take some getting used to, but they do
hit the spot sometimes when you need something to fill you up. I found
I got addicted to them, though and so I stopped eating them.

Jim



Ignoramus19207 wrote:
You are trying wrong stuff. The LC sweet chocolate is likely worse
than regular chocolate.

Go to the baking section of your supermarket and check out
"unsweetened baking squares". They sell them in boxes containins 8 1
oz individually wrapped chocolate squares.

Warning: they are not sweet. They do have some bitterness in their
taste, in fact, of the chocolatey kind. But,m they are real chocolate
and not fake low carb "chocolate". They do not taste like candy at all.

Be careful with them also. They are really low carb, but pack lots of
calories.

i


--
Jim Marnott
231/194/194 (Hit goal on 22 Nov '03 -- exactly 6 months later)
Atkins since 22 May '03
Gym since 1 sept '03

In article
,
"Lady o' the house" wrote:

Yes, I am low carbing to lose weight. I've been "behaving" myself and I've
sworn off all white and brown sugar, flour products, etc. Meat and
vegetables have been my diet for the last 2 1/2 months. I've slowly lost 16
pounds, so I think I'm on the right track. I had just wanted to try it, and
wondered what others had thought about the Atkins products.

The only real junk foods I allow myself now are Diet Rite and an occasional
Endulge bar (1 every 3 weeks or so). I do agree that most "low carb" treats
are over-priced and not worth buying. Since startng my willpower has been
great. I've 'bypassed' lots of junk food since I've started low carbing.

But regarding your advice to "bypass all the supposed 'low carb' treats:"
isn't a WOE or diet much harder to follow if you can't allow yourself a
small treat once in a while? I'd much rather treat myself with a low carb
candy bar than blow my progress with a regular Hershey bar. Besides, low
carbing IS working for me, so I don't plan to give it up.

Linda

You have a good attitude, Linda. Don't mind little Jenny. She has
appointed herself the LC food uber-cop and has demonstrated time and
time again her pathological obsession with ridding the world of LC
products.

During weight loss, I was pretty obsessed with not eating LC foods. I
think for me, that was the right thing, not because there is some global
conspiracy by the sugar alcohol makers to addict us all, but because I
would have simply substituted LC "candy" for my regular 3 or 4 candy
bars per night. The problem is not as often the sugar alcohols as people
like to think as it is the simple fact that an Atkins bar has something
around 240 calories. (Endulge are less). The bottom line is that if my
normal calorie intake should be 2000 calories and I eat 3000 calories of
ANY food, I will gain weight.

With your logical and rational attitude, you'll be fine.

--
Wayne Crannell
Atkins+ 10/27/01
Maintenance 10/1/02
250/138

Linda wrote:

But regarding your advice to "bypass all the supposed 'low carb' treats:"
isn't a WOE or diet much harder to follow if you can't allow yourself a
small treat once in a while? I'd much rather treat myself with a low carb
candy bar than blow my progress with a regular Hershey bar. Besides, low
carbing IS working for me, so I don't plan to give it up.


Who said anything about not allowing low carb treats? The operant word is
"supposed"--the high carb treats that claim to be low carb--such as those 17
gram Endulge bars.

I allow myself truly low carb treats all the time--foods with under five
grams of slow acting carbohydrate which I make myself so I know what is in
them.

Today I nade low carb pecan rolls for breakfast. I make macaroons almost
every week. Sometimes I have raspberry or blueberry homemade protein
pancakes. Lindt 70% chocolate has 3 grams per serving and does wonderful
things for my need for chocolate without sparking cravings. You can make
home made low carb cheesecakes that are truly low carb. You can make
delicious chocolate pudding or fudge with creamcheese. You can make cookies
and all sorts of cakes with almond meal.

If you hope to stretch your 2 1/2 months to 2 1/2 years and longer getting
familiar with these legal treats can make it a whole lot easier to keep at
it once the intial thrill of low carbing wears off. If you can build up an
arsenal of truly low carb treats that you can make at home so that you no
longer consider the commercial stuff a "treat."

It isn't easy. But a lot of experimenting with recipes is worth it.
Otherwise, what you may find is that as the months wear on your one junk
food treat once a week turns into one or two a day and your calories creep
up because you have been goosing your insulin levels without realizing it,
and the rebound hunger eventually pushes you into the binge from hell that
ends a lot of people's low carb diets.

-- Jenny

Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address!
New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm
Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 -
HBa1c 5.2 10/03
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * Do Starch Blockers Work? * NEW! Why the Low Carb Diet
is Great for Diabetes * NEW! Low Carb Strategies for People with Diabetes

Jenny wrote:

Linda wrote:

But regarding your advice to "bypass all the supposed 'low carb' treats:"
isn't a WOE or diet much harder to follow if you can't allow yourself a
small treat once in a while? I'd much rather treat myself with a low carb
candy bar than blow my progress with a regular Hershey bar. Besides, low
carbing IS working for me, so I don't plan to give it up.


Who said anything about not allowing low carb treats? The operant word is
"supposed"--the high carb treats that claim to be low carb--such as those 17
gram Endulge bars.

I allow myself truly low carb treats all the time--foods with under five
grams of slow acting carbohydrate which I make myself so I know what is in
them.

Today I nade low carb pecan rolls for breakfast. I make macaroons almost
every week. Sometimes I have raspberry or blueberry homemade protein
pancakes. Lindt 70% chocolate has 3 grams per serving and does wonderful
things for my need for chocolate without sparking cravings. You can make
home made low carb cheesecakes that are truly low carb. You can make
delicious chocolate pudding or fudge with creamcheese. You can make cookies
and all sorts of cakes with almond meal.

If you hope to stretch your 2 1/2 months to 2 1/2 years and longer getting
familiar with these legal treats can make it a whole lot easier to keep at
it once the intial thrill of low carbing wears off. If you can build up an
arsenal of truly low carb treats that you can make at home so that you no
longer consider the commercial stuff a "treat."

It isn't easy. But a lot of experimenting with recipes is worth it.
Otherwise, what you may find is that as the months wear on your one junk
food treat once a week turns into one or two a day and your calories creep
up because you have been goosing your insulin levels without realizing it,
and the rebound hunger eventually pushes you into the binge from hell that
ends a lot of people's low carb diets.


Low-carb pecan rolls?! Those sound very interesting. Would you
please post the recipe for them?

--
Jean B.

Jean,

The pecan rolls are made with the muffin mix that I just posted on my recipe
page:

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/recipes.htm


-- Jenny

Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address!
New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm
Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 -
HBa1c 5.2 10/03
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * Do Starch Blockers Work? * NEW! Why the Low Carb Diet
is Great for Diabetes * NEW! Low Carb Strategies for People with Diabetes


"Jean B." wrote in message ...
Jenny wrote:

Linda wrote:

But regarding your advice to "bypass all the supposed 'low carb'
treats:"
isn't a WOE or diet much harder to follow if you can't allow yourself
a
small treat once in a while? I'd much rather treat myself with a low
carb
candy bar than blow my progress with a regular Hershey bar. Besides,
low
carbing IS working for me, so I don't plan to give it up.


Who said anything about not allowing low carb treats? The operant word
is
"supposed"--the high carb treats that claim to be low carb--such as
those 17
gram Endulge bars.

I allow myself truly low carb treats all the time--foods with under five
grams of slow acting carbohydrate which I make myself so I know what is
in
them.

Today I nade low carb pecan rolls for breakfast. I make macaroons almost
every week. Sometimes I have raspberry or blueberry homemade protein
pancakes. Lindt 70% chocolate has 3 grams per serving and does wonderful
things for my need for chocolate without sparking cravings. You can make
home made low carb cheesecakes that are truly low carb. You can make
delicious chocolate pudding or fudge with creamcheese. You can make
cookies
and all sorts of cakes with almond meal.

If you hope to stretch your 2 1/2 months to 2 1/2 years and longer
getting
familiar with these legal treats can make it a whole lot easier to keep
at
it once the intial thrill of low carbing wears off. If you can build up
an
arsenal of truly low carb treats that you can make at home so that you
no
longer consider the commercial stuff a "treat."

It isn't easy. But a lot of experimenting with recipes is worth it.
Otherwise, what you may find is that as the months wear on your one junk
food treat once a week turns into one or two a day and your calories
creep
up because you have been goosing your insulin levels without realizing
it,
and the rebound hunger eventually pushes you into the binge from hell
that
ends a lot of people's low carb diets.


Low-carb pecan rolls?! Those sound very interesting. Would you
please post the recipe for them?

--
Jean B.