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What nutrients are in whole grains that aren't in vegetables?



 
 
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Wheat flour, whole-grain
Refuse: 0%
Scientific Name:
NDB No: 20080 (Nutrient values and weights are for

edible portion)

Nutrient Units Value per 100 grams Number of Data

Points Std.Error
Proximates
Water g 10.27 15 0.453
Energy kcal 339 0 0
Energy kj 1418 0 0
Protein g 13.70 16 0.456
Total lipid (fat) g 1.87 10 0.04
Ash g 1.60 14 0.053
Carbohydrate, by difference g 72.57 0 0
Fiber, total dietary g 12.2 0 0
Sugars, total g 0.41 3 0.03
Minerals
Calcium, Ca mg 34 8 2.484
Iron, Fe mg 3.88 8 0.059
Magnesium, Mg mg 138 6 1.898
Phosphorus, P mg 346 6 3.784
Potassium, K mg 405 7 16.273
Sodium, Na mg 5 7 1.583
Zinc, Zn mg 2.93 11 0.185
Copper, Cu mg 0.382 11 0.024
Manganese, Mn mg 3.799 10 0.309
Selenium, Se mcg 70.7 3 8.175
Vitamins
Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid mg 0.0 0 0
Thiamin mg 0.447 20 0.018
Riboflavin mg 0.215 20 0.013
Niacin mg 6.365 8 0.263
Pantothenic acid mg 1.008 2 0
Vitamin B-6 mg 0.341 3 0.019
Folate, total mcg 44 7 4.194
Folic acid mcg 0 0 0
Folate, food mcg 44 7 4.194
Folate, DFE mcg_DFE 44 0 0
Vitamin B-12 mcg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin B-12, added mcg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin A, IU IU 9 0 0
Vitamin A, RAE mcg_RAE 0 0 0
Retinol mcg 0 0 0
Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) mg 0.82 1 0
Vitamin E, added mg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin K (phylloquinone) mcg 1.9 2 0
Lipids
Fatty acids, total saturated g 0.322 0 0
4:0 g 0.000 0 0
6:0 g 0.000 0 0
8:0 g 0.018 0 0
10:0 g 0.000 0 0
12:0 g 0.000 0 0
14:0 g 0.003 0 0
16:0 g 0.271 0 0
18:0 g 0.015 0 0
Fatty acids, total monounsaturated g 0.232 0 0
16:1 undifferentiated g 0.013 0 0
18:1 undifferentiated g 0.219 0 0
20:1 g 0.000 0 0
22:1 undifferentiated g 0.000 0 0
Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated g 0.779 0 0
18:2 undifferentiated g 0.738 0 0
18:3 undifferentiated g 0.038 0 0
18:4 g 0.000 0 0
20:4 undifferentiated g 0.002 0 0
20:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
22:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
22:6 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
Cholesterol mg 0 0 0
Amino acids
Tryptophan g 0.212 12 0
Threonine g 0.395 25 0
Isoleucine g 0.508 25 0
Leucine g 0.926 25 0
Lysine g 0.378 26 0
Methionine g 0.212 26 0
Cystine g 0.317 20 0
Phenylalanine g 0.646 25 0
Tyrosine g 0.400 24 0
Valine g 0.618 25 0
Arginine g 0.642 26 0
Histidine g 0.317 26 0
Alanine g 0.487 24 0
Aspartic acid g 0.703 25 0
Glutamic acid g 4.325 24 0
Glycine g 0.552 23 0
Proline g 1.422 23 0
Serine g 0.646 23 0
Other
Alcohol, ethyl g 0.0 0 0
Caffeine mg 0 0 0
Theobromine mg 0 0 0
Carotene, beta mcg 5 1 0
Carotene, alpha mcg 0 0 0
Cryptoxanthin, beta mcg 0 0 0
Lycopene mcg 0 0 0
Lutein + zeaxanthin mcg 220 1 0

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Vegetables, mixed (corn, lima beans, peas, green

beans, carrots)
canned, no salt added
New Search
Refuse: 0%
Scientific Name:
NDB No: 43312 (Nutrient values and weights are for

edible portion)

Nutrient Units Value per100 grams Numberof

DataPoints Std.Error
Proximates
Water g 90.20 0 0
Energy kcal 37 0 0
Energy kj 153 0 0
Protein g 1.40 0 0
Total lipid (fat) g 0.20 0 0
Ash g 0.89 0 0
Carbohydrate, by difference g 7.31 0 0
Fiber, total dietary g 3.1 0 0
Sugars, total g 2.45 0 0
Minerals
Calcium, Ca mg 21 0 0
Iron, Fe mg 0.65 0 0
Magnesium, Mg mg 15 0 0
Phosphorus, P mg 37 0 0
Potassium, K mg 138 0 0
Sodium, Na mg 26 0 0
Zinc, Zn mg 0.51 0 0
Copper, Cu mg 0.104 0 0
Selenium, Se mcg 0.3 1 0
Vitamins
Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid mg 3.8 0 0
Thiamin mg 0.030 0 0
Riboflavin mg 0.040 0 0
Niacin mg 0.480 0 0
Vitamin B-6 mg 0.080 0 0
Folate, total mcg 18 0 0
Folic acid mcg 0 0 0
Folate, food mcg 18 0 0
Folate, DFE mcg_DFE 18 0 0
Vitamin B-12 mcg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin B-12, added mcg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin A, IU IU 11647 0 0
Vitamin A, RAE mcg_RAE 582 0 0
Retinol mcg 0 0 0
Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) mg 0.34 0 0
Vitamin E, added mg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin K (phylloquinone) mcg 12.4 0 0
Lipids
Fatty acids, total saturated g 0.039 0 0
4:0 g 0.000 0 0
6:0 g 0.000 0 0
8:0 g 0.000 0 0
10:0 g 0.000 0 0
12:0 g 0.001 0 0
14:0 g 0.000 0 0
16:0 g 0.033 0 0
18:0 g 0.004 0 0
Fatty acids, total monounsaturated g 0.022 0 0
16:1 undifferentiated g 0.001 0 0
18:1 undifferentiated g 0.022 0 0
20:1 g 0.000 0 0
22:1 undifferentiated g 0.000 0 0
Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated g 0.098 0 0
18:2 undifferentiated g 0.071 0 0
18:3 undifferentiated g 0.027 0 0
18:4 g 0.000 0 0
20:4 undifferentiated g 0.000 0 0
20:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
22:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
22:6 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
Cholesterol mg 0 0 0
Other
Alcohol, ethyl g 0.0 0 0
Caffeine mg 0 0 0
Theobromine mg 0 0 0
Carotene, beta mcg 5670 0 0
Carotene, alpha mcg 2636 0 0
Cryptoxanthin, beta mcg 0 0 0
Lycopene mcg 0 0 0
Lutein + zeaxanthin mcg 493 0 0


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Whole wheat is a poor food compared to vegetables.

TC



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"Joe the Aroma" wrote in message
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The reason I'm asking is, low-carb vs. mainstream nutrition aside, it seems
that vegetables are a much more low calorie way to get whatever nutrients
are available only from plant sources rather than whole grains.


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Wheat flour, whole-grain
Refuse: 0%
Scientific Name:
NDB No: 20080 (Nutrient values and weights are for edible portion)

Nutrient Units Value per 100 grams Number of Data Points Std.Error
Proximates
Water g 10.27 15 0.453
Energy kcal 339 0 0
Energy kj 1418 0 0
Protein g 13.70 16 0.456
Total lipid (fat) g 1.87 10 0.04
Ash g 1.60 14 0.053
Carbohydrate, by difference g 72.57 0 0
Fiber, total dietary g 12.2 0 0
Sugars, total g 0.41 3 0.03
Minerals
Calcium, Ca mg 34 8 2.484
Iron, Fe mg 3.88 8 0.059
Magnesium, Mg mg 138 6 1.898
Phosphorus, P mg 346 6 3.784
Potassium, K mg 405 7 16.273
Sodium, Na mg 5 7 1.583
Zinc, Zn mg 2.93 11 0.185
Copper, Cu mg 0.382 11 0.024
Manganese, Mn mg 3.799 10 0.309
Selenium, Se mcg 70.7 3 8.175
Vitamins
Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid mg 0.0 0 0
Thiamin mg 0.447 20 0.018
Riboflavin mg 0.215 20 0.013
Niacin mg 6.365 8 0.263
Pantothenic acid mg 1.008 2 0
Vitamin B-6 mg 0.341 3 0.019
Folate, total mcg 44 7 4.194
Folic acid mcg 0 0 0
Folate, food mcg 44 7 4.194
Folate, DFE mcg_DFE 44 0 0
Vitamin B-12 mcg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin B-12, added mcg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin A, IU IU 9 0 0
Vitamin A, RAE mcg_RAE 0 0 0
Retinol mcg 0 0 0
Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) mg 0.82 1 0
Vitamin E, added mg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin K (phylloquinone) mcg 1.9 2 0
Lipids
Fatty acids, total saturated g 0.322 0 0
4:0 g 0.000 0 0
6:0 g 0.000 0 0
8:0 g 0.018 0 0
10:0 g 0.000 0 0
12:0 g 0.000 0 0
14:0 g 0.003 0 0
16:0 g 0.271 0 0
18:0 g 0.015 0 0
Fatty acids, total monounsaturated g 0.232 0 0
16:1 undifferentiated g 0.013 0 0
18:1 undifferentiated g 0.219 0 0
20:1 g 0.000 0 0
22:1 undifferentiated g 0.000 0 0
Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated g 0.779 0 0
18:2 undifferentiated g 0.738 0 0
18:3 undifferentiated g 0.038 0 0
18:4 g 0.000 0 0
20:4 undifferentiated g 0.002 0 0
20:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
22:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
22:6 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
Cholesterol mg 0 0 0
Amino acids
Tryptophan g 0.212 12 0
Threonine g 0.395 25 0
Isoleucine g 0.508 25 0
Leucine g 0.926 25 0
Lysine g 0.378 26 0
Methionine g 0.212 26 0
Cystine g 0.317 20 0
Phenylalanine g 0.646 25 0
Tyrosine g 0.400 24 0
Valine g 0.618 25 0
Arginine g 0.642 26 0
Histidine g 0.317 26 0
Alanine g 0.487 24 0
Aspartic acid g 0.703 25 0
Glutamic acid g 4.325 24 0
Glycine g 0.552 23 0
Proline g 1.422 23 0
Serine g 0.646 23 0
Other
Alcohol, ethyl g 0.0 0 0
Caffeine mg 0 0 0
Theobromine mg 0 0 0
Carotene, beta mcg 5 1 0
Carotene, alpha mcg 0 0 0
Cryptoxanthin, beta mcg 0 0 0
Lycopene mcg 0 0 0
Lutein + zeaxanthin mcg 220 1 0

*************

Vegetables, mixed (corn, lima beans, peas, green beans, carrots)
canned, no salt added
New Search
Refuse: 0%
Scientific Name:
NDB No: 43312 (Nutrient values and weights are for edible portion)

Nutrient Units Value per100 grams Numberof DataPoints Std.Error
Proximates
Water g 90.20 0 0
Energy kcal 37 0 0
Energy kj 153 0 0
Protein g 1.40 0 0
Total lipid (fat) g 0.20 0 0
Ash g 0.89 0 0
Carbohydrate, by difference g 7.31 0 0
Fiber, total dietary g 3.1 0 0
Sugars, total g 2.45 0 0
Minerals
Calcium, Ca mg 21 0 0
Iron, Fe mg 0.65 0 0
Magnesium, Mg mg 15 0 0
Phosphorus, P mg 37 0 0
Potassium, K mg 138 0 0
Sodium, Na mg 26 0 0
Zinc, Zn mg 0.51 0 0
Copper, Cu mg 0.104 0 0
Selenium, Se mcg 0.3 1 0
Vitamins
Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid mg 3.8 0 0
Thiamin mg 0.030 0 0
Riboflavin mg 0.040 0 0
Niacin mg 0.480 0 0
Vitamin B-6 mg 0.080 0 0
Folate, total mcg 18 0 0
Folic acid mcg 0 0 0
Folate, food mcg 18 0 0
Folate, DFE mcg_DFE 18 0 0
Vitamin B-12 mcg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin B-12, added mcg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin A, IU IU 11647 0 0
Vitamin A, RAE mcg_RAE 582 0 0
Retinol mcg 0 0 0
Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) mg 0.34 0 0
Vitamin E, added mg 0.00 0 0
Vitamin K (phylloquinone) mcg 12.4 0 0
Lipids
Fatty acids, total saturated g 0.039 0 0
4:0 g 0.000 0 0
6:0 g 0.000 0 0
8:0 g 0.000 0 0
10:0 g 0.000 0 0
12:0 g 0.001 0 0
14:0 g 0.000 0 0
16:0 g 0.033 0 0
18:0 g 0.004 0 0
Fatty acids, total monounsaturated g 0.022 0 0
16:1 undifferentiated g 0.001 0 0
18:1 undifferentiated g 0.022 0 0
20:1 g 0.000 0 0
22:1 undifferentiated g 0.000 0 0
Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated g 0.098 0 0
18:2 undifferentiated g 0.071 0 0
18:3 undifferentiated g 0.027 0 0
18:4 g 0.000 0 0
20:4 undifferentiated g 0.000 0 0
20:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
22:5 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
22:6 n-3 g 0.000 0 0
Cholesterol mg 0 0 0
Other
Alcohol, ethyl g 0.0 0 0
Caffeine mg 0 0 0
Theobromine mg 0 0 0
Carotene, beta mcg 5670 0 0
Carotene, alpha mcg 2636 0 0
Cryptoxanthin, beta mcg 0 0 0
Lycopene mcg 0 0 0
Lutein + zeaxanthin mcg 493 0 0


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Whole wheat is a poor food compared to vegetables.

TC

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Joe the Aroma wrote:
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The reason I'm asking is, low-carb vs. mainstream nutrition aside, it seems
that vegetables are a much more low calorie way to get whatever nutrients
are available only from plant sources rather than whole grains.


Calories. Try feeding yourself on raw spinach. Tons of nutrients, hardly
any calories. A very modest diet of 1800 calories per day would be 17
lbs of spinach or 3.58 lbs of rice. You choose what you want to stuff
down your pie hole.

Personally I try for a wide variety of foods, vegetables just don't fill
you up for very long (they literally fill you up but dont give you much
usable energy)

k
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TC wrote:

Whole wheat is a poor food compared to vegetables.


TC 'The Complainer' complains, yet again.

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Joe the Aroma wrote:

The reason I'm asking is, low-carb vs. mainstream nutrition aside, it seems
that vegetables are a much more low calorie way to get whatever nutrients
are available only from plant sources rather than whole grains.


Since when is low-calorie the measure of anything?

Only for people trying to lose weight because they have a long history
of abusing their bodies.

I suppose one could survive awhile, by eating spinach like Popeye.

Of course, if you are planning to live a long life. Then I would
suggest eating real foods which of course would include whole grains.

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For starters, the FDA has been dead wrong so many times, why should
they be believed this time?

Now the FDA says, "Let there be whole grains in food, and it shall be
good" and it becomes everyones mantra? Thats up there with those
simpletons that say that you NEED to eat sugar for your brain to
function. Excuse me? I'm sory I didn't quite get that.

Everything I am seeing tells me that it this whole grains thing is just
the latest gimmick for those that want to delude themselves that their
standard western processed diet is good for them. For many thousands
of years of human (and other animal) existance, grains and even fruits
and vegetables were a very rare commodity and certainly not the staple
of their diet. Quite frankly, if they couldn't catch it and kill it,
they didn't eat it. It wasn't until more advanced settlements formed
that agricuture even became feasible. But I am supposed to believe
that these natural items that humasn have been eating for millenia are
now inferior to a "whole grain" product manufactured by some company
who's "whole intent" is to make a profit? Please.

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Joe the Aroma wrote:

None. Whole grain wheat is a nutrient poor food. It is a
cheap source of calories. It does contain fiber which can
be beneficial.

BJ
--
"The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy
appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other." --
Ronald Reagan


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"Mr-Natural-Health" wrote in
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Joe the Aroma wrote:

The reason I'm asking is, low-carb vs. mainstream nutrition aside, it
seems
that vegetables are a much more low calorie way to get whatever nutrients
are available only from plant sources rather than whole grains.


Since when is low-calorie the measure of anything?


Well it is a measure of the heat value of food.

Only for people trying to lose weight because they have a long history
of abusing their bodies.


Or people not trying to gain weight, which Americans have a problem with.

I suppose one could survive awhile, by eating spinach like Popeye.

Of course, if you are planning to live a long life. Then I would
suggest eating real foods which of course would include whole grains.


So your contention is that whole grains will make you live a long life? What
is your proof?


 




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