WNM update - Joyce

AAAAHHHHH NO TV!!!! I have not even gotten up the ooomph to send my story
to WW mag yet. You cannot imagine the fuss it would cause with people
around Here. And it is kind of embarassing in a way to be known as the
person who lost 200+ pounds but it took them 24 years to do it!
I did that thing back in 1990 for prevention magazine, and was Harrassed for
years after by tabloids. I am a private person really, and would love to
help others, but not on TV!!

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Why forget that? I'm sure you could do it. Okay, we need a mover and
shaker here to submit our favorite school nurse's bio to Oprah.
Amberle's got the chutzpah (G)

I think you would be very deserving of a modest stipend particularly
to help counsel others in weight control issues.

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:39:52 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

You know I considered sending Oprah my pic's and asking if she wanted to
help pay for the Masters Degree seeing as she is always doing nice things
for people ...... But then I thought about it, and she would want to
put
me on TV, and forget that.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds good having accredited online learning. Your focus, helping
kids avoid the pitfalls of obesity related health problems is great.
And coming from your perspective - you know of what you preach.

Maybe you could satisfy grant or scholarship requirements for the
clinical?? Hey, maybe we can get you on Oprah or Dr Phil - you have a
great story (the weightloss, taking care of your mother) and now you
want to perform a great service.



On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

It is a Masters in Science in Nursing program online that U of Phoenix
has.
Totally accredited. Only flies in the ointment are that I will have
to
find
a way to do a clinical somewhere in the second year, and it is pricey.
Fully
accredited though, so when I have to go back to work I could teach if
I
am
too burned out for hands on nursing, and I may Be.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
MSN has an online education program? Hmmm.

I need projects, too. And stripping woodwork just is not very
tempting at the moment. Gardening which this place needs is not my
thing at all.

I think you will "win" again this week, I just have this feeling. I
seemed fully stalled around 160+

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 01:13:48 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I think I am going to come in around 158 or 159 in the morning,
based
upon
the last few days, and that is A-Okay. Things are hard at home,
but I
am
getting ready to start work on an online MSN program that will keep
me
feeling more myself I think. Now that I am not totally involved in
the
weight issue for hours a day, I found I was kind of lost, then
discovered
this program and it sounds interesting, so Ya... Back to school,
this
time
online.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sorry to hear that things are not going well at home. Just as
long
as
you can handle it on your own - more strength to you.

Meetings are a mixed bag. Some weeks are better than others.
But
they keep me accountable and at the moment, that is a (martha
stewart,
here) Good Thing. And as long as I go, I get an
official/accurate
WI.
But if I think I'm over I think I would save the money but then
again,
maybe I would face the 'music' and that might get me on track.
So
far, thankfully, I'm still handling Maintenance with the hover.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:57:28 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yes. I do enjoy going to meetings, and I frequently used to go
and
just
sit
in on the meeting without weighing. Lately things at home have
been
kind
of
scary, so it is not as easy to go. I have to haul Mom with.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Remember the fallback - you only have to wi once a month even
if
you
attend a meeting you can skip the wi. But then again, you
have
great
incentive.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:42:00 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

By all means make your goal date a year away, it will end up
very
very
accurate that way because it will stop trying to get you
someplace
too
quick.

I really freak when I am in the one sixes, but what I really
don't
want
to
be over is 161 since that would make me pay now...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Hmmmmm, maybe I should focus on 132.5 and split the
difference?
By
looking at
that 130 I tend to frustrate myself, as my weight is
usually
between
129
and 132
... more often towards the higher number. And dietpower
does
me
in
when I
go over
the 130 (that's what I have set as my *goal*) - drops my
budget,
metabollic rate,
all kinds of goofy things even when over only by half a
pound.
This
tends
to put
me in panic mode. Will it stop yelling at me if I raise
that
goal
...
or
maybe
make the goal date more like a year from now, instead of a
week
from
now?
g

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:49:42 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I panic when I get into the one sixers. Know just what
you
mean.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, an up ... think 2 pounds or close to it. This week
has
been
back
down. I
panic for some reason when over 130 ... yet I know my
*danger
zone*
is
135 - when
I really kick things in gear. I think I need to focus
more
on
that
135.
Or maybe
not. Focusing on that 130 seems to keep me more in
control
of
things -
even
though I know I swing up and down from there (more up
than
down).

I did check my jean sizes when out a few weeks ago.
While
it
was
fun
to
learn I
have decreased a size, I didn't buy anything other than
that
pair
of
capris. The
current jeans are not unnacceptably baggy - they are
comfy
...
and
they
are jeans.
I can continue to get by with what I have. I'll have to
dig
through
the
summer
t's soon though - not sure what I have from last year.
Shorts
should
be
fine.

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:51:25 -0700, Fred

wrote:

I have to presume that it is an UP?

The food sounds good including the salt!

My jeans also seem more roomy even with the weight
variations.
I
was
thinking of hitting Costco and check on the next size
down
but
maybe I
should not jump the gun.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500, Joyce

wrote:

ARGHHHHHHHHH! 132.4 this morning ... tom again,
already,
whatever.
Need I say
more? I swear my body has now decided to go totally
wacko
on
me.
g
Other than
that, and possibly two days of eating some fantastic
jambalaya
(which
was rather
salty) no reasonable explanation.

On the plus side ... my jeans are feeling incredibly
baggy.
LOL

Joyce

IKES! This program is really starting to drive me totally nuts. I changed the
goal date to a year away, which accomplished what I wanted to ... put me on a
maintenance diet instead of a losing diet (not sure why that ever happened
anyway). The freaky thing that happened is that the program for some reason went
back to the beginning are recalculated EVERYTHING. I found that my metabollic
rate for when I first started the program is now at 500 calories - and holds that
for about a week. Then it shot me up quite a bit, dropped me back down and now
sits and tells me that my metabollic rate should be 1150. I don't think so!
I'll run with it awhile longer and see if it starts creeping back up to a more
realistic number.

I'm in the freak mode right now, am totally clueless as to what I am going through
or what my body is. I know I had a bad week over Easter, after that I have been
very much on track ... almost too good, for me. g Weight is not unreasonable,
flucuating between 132-133. But it does not want to come down any further and it
makes no sense to me. I am beginning to feel exactly like Krys - makes no sense
as to how you can eat less, exercise more, and watch the scale move up. sigh

As a little insight ... I have been tracking my treadmill usage this past week. I
trekked 25 miles in a tad over 6 hours ... all of it uphill. g That works out
to *about* 2600 calories burnt off over the course of the week.
Caloriesperhour.com calculates it as 2425 calories, so I figure the info I've
calculated is pretty dang close when taking difference in speeds and incline
levels into account. Fitday *says* my resting metabolic rate should be 1900, I've
figured it at other sites and come up between 1800 and 1900 - so again, close
enough. That isn't taking into consideration the exercise I have been doing. I
am averaging 1600 calories/day, definitely not starving myself - no junk either.
That doesn't seem too high nor too low to me. So like Krys, I am wondering ... do
I eat more, do I eat less, is this still fluids I'm hanging onto? I'm too close
to what I consider my danger zone - and I'm fighting hard to keep panic from
setting in.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:42:00 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

By all means make your goal date a year away, it will end up very very
accurate that way because it will stop trying to get you someplace too
quick.

I really freak when I am in the one sixes, but what I really don't want to
be over is 161 since that would make me pay now...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Hmmmmm, maybe I should focus on 132.5 and split the difference? By
looking at
that 130 I tend to frustrate myself, as my weight is usually between 129
and 132
... more often towards the higher number. And dietpower does me in when I
go over
the 130 (that's what I have set as my *goal*) - drops my budget,
metabollic rate,
all kinds of goofy things even when over only by half a pound. This tends
to put
me in panic mode. Will it stop yelling at me if I raise that goal ... or
maybe
make the goal date more like a year from now, instead of a week from now?
g

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:49:42 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

I panic when I get into the one sixers. Know just what you mean.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, an up ... think 2 pounds or close to it. This week has been back
down. I
panic for some reason when over 130 ... yet I know my *danger zone* is
135 - when
I really kick things in gear. I think I need to focus more on that
135.
Or maybe
not. Focusing on that 130 seems to keep me more in control of things -
even
though I know I swing up and down from there (more up than down).

I did check my jean sizes when out a few weeks ago. While it was fun
to
learn I
have decreased a size, I didn't buy anything other than that pair of
capris. The
current jeans are not unnacceptably baggy - they are comfy ... and they
are jeans.
I can continue to get by with what I have. I'll have to dig through
the
summer
t's soon though - not sure what I have from last year. Shorts should
be
fine.

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:51:25 -0700, Fred
wrote:

I have to presume that it is an UP?

The food sounds good including the salt!

My jeans also seem more roomy even with the weight variations. I was
thinking of hitting Costco and check on the next size down but maybe I
should not jump the gun.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500, Joyce wrote:

ARGHHHHHHHHH! 132.4 this morning ... tom again, already, whatever.
Need I say
more? I swear my body has now decided to go totally wacko on me. g
Other than
that, and possibly two days of eating some fantastic jambalaya (which
was rather
salty) no reasonable explanation.

On the plus side ... my jeans are feeling incredibly baggy. LOL

Joyce

Well, I can relate. I feel as if I am getting ready to freak out and gain
myself. I am having a very difficult time with wanting to EAT everything.
My weight is creeping up. Just using the average thing it is only a pound
or two, but things just feel out of control. I don't know what is up with
your diet power, maybe just give it some time? I know when I start over
with the thing and change something, I usually erase the old records so it
Really starts over. It gives me, at my height and weight, around 1800 which
I think is realistic. I am having a real hard time sticking with it. Some
days go fine, then I get into the sugar and look out....

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
IKES! This program is really starting to drive me totally nuts. I
changed the
goal date to a year away, which accomplished what I wanted to ... put me
on a
maintenance diet instead of a losing diet (not sure why that ever happened
anyway). The freaky thing that happened is that the program for some
reason went
back to the beginning are recalculated EVERYTHING. I found that my
metabollic
rate for when I first started the program is now at 500 calories - and
holds that
for about a week. Then it shot me up quite a bit, dropped me back down
and now
sits and tells me that my metabollic rate should be 1150. I don't think
so!
I'll run with it awhile longer and see if it starts creeping back up to a
more
realistic number.

I'm in the freak mode right now, am totally clueless as to what I am going
through
or what my body is. I know I had a bad week over Easter, after that I
have been
very much on track ... almost too good, for me. g Weight is not
unreasonable,
flucuating between 132-133. But it does not want to come down any further
and it
makes no sense to me. I am beginning to feel exactly like Krys - makes no
sense
as to how you can eat less, exercise more, and watch the scale move up.
sigh

As a little insight ... I have been tracking my treadmill usage this past
week. I
trekked 25 miles in a tad over 6 hours ... all of it uphill. g That
works out
to *about* 2600 calories burnt off over the course of the week.
Caloriesperhour.com calculates it as 2425 calories, so I figure the info
I've
calculated is pretty dang close when taking difference in speeds and
incline
levels into account. Fitday *says* my resting metabolic rate should be
1900, I've
figured it at other sites and come up between 1800 and 1900 - so again,
close
enough. That isn't taking into consideration the exercise I have been
doing. I
am averaging 1600 calories/day, definitely not starving myself - no junk
either.
That doesn't seem too high nor too low to me. So like Krys, I am
wondering ... do
I eat more, do I eat less, is this still fluids I'm hanging onto? I'm too
close
to what I consider my danger zone - and I'm fighting hard to keep panic
from
setting in.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:42:00 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

By all means make your goal date a year away, it will end up very very
accurate that way because it will stop trying to get you someplace too
quick.

I really freak when I am in the one sixes, but what I really don't want
to
be over is 161 since that would make me pay now...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Hmmmmm, maybe I should focus on 132.5 and split the difference? By
looking at
that 130 I tend to frustrate myself, as my weight is usually between
129
and 132
... more often towards the higher number. And dietpower does me in
when I
go over
the 130 (that's what I have set as my *goal*) - drops my budget,
metabollic rate,
all kinds of goofy things even when over only by half a pound. This
tends
to put
me in panic mode. Will it stop yelling at me if I raise that goal ...
or
maybe
make the goal date more like a year from now, instead of a week from
now?
g

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:49:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I panic when I get into the one sixers. Know just what you mean.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, an up ... think 2 pounds or close to it. This week has been
back
down. I
panic for some reason when over 130 ... yet I know my *danger zone*
is
135 - when
I really kick things in gear. I think I need to focus more on that
135.
Or maybe
not. Focusing on that 130 seems to keep me more in control of
things -
even
though I know I swing up and down from there (more up than down).

I did check my jean sizes when out a few weeks ago. While it was
fun
to
learn I
have decreased a size, I didn't buy anything other than that pair of
capris. The
current jeans are not unnacceptably baggy - they are comfy ... and
they
are jeans.
I can continue to get by with what I have. I'll have to dig through
the
summer
t's soon though - not sure what I have from last year. Shorts
should
be
fine.

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:51:25 -0700, Fred
wrote:

I have to presume that it is an UP?

The food sounds good including the salt!

My jeans also seem more roomy even with the weight variations. I
was
thinking of hitting Costco and check on the next size down but
maybe I
should not jump the gun.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500, Joyce wrote:

ARGHHHHHHHHH! 132.4 this morning ... tom again, already,
whatever.
Need I say
more? I swear my body has now decided to go totally wacko on me.
g
Other than
that, and possibly two days of eating some fantastic jambalaya
(which
was rather
salty) no reasonable explanation.

On the plus side ... my jeans are feeling incredibly baggy. LOL

Joyce

maybe go back to counting points for a bit as a security zone, then put the
journal into the diet program after a week to compare, Lee, just grasping
here
Joyce wrote in message
...
IKES! This program is really starting to drive me totally nuts. I
changed the
goal date to a year away, which accomplished what I wanted to ... put me
on a
maintenance diet instead of a losing diet (not sure why that ever happened
anyway). The freaky thing that happened is that the program for some
reason went
back to the beginning are recalculated EVERYTHING. I found that my
metabollic
rate for when I first started the program is now at 500 calories - and
holds that
for about a week. Then it shot me up quite a bit, dropped me back down
and now
sits and tells me that my metabollic rate should be 1150. I don't think
so!
I'll run with it awhile longer and see if it starts creeping back up to a
more
realistic number.

I'm in the freak mode right now, am totally clueless as to what I am going
through
or what my body is. I know I had a bad week over Easter, after that I
have been
very much on track ... almost too good, for me. g Weight is not
unreasonable,
flucuating between 132-133. But it does not want to come down any further
and it
makes no sense to me. I am beginning to feel exactly like Krys - makes no
sense
as to how you can eat less, exercise more, and watch the scale move up.
sigh

As a little insight ... I have been tracking my treadmill usage this past
week. I
trekked 25 miles in a tad over 6 hours ... all of it uphill. g That
works out
to *about* 2600 calories burnt off over the course of the week.
Caloriesperhour.com calculates it as 2425 calories, so I figure the info
I've
calculated is pretty dang close when taking difference in speeds and
incline
levels into account. Fitday *says* my resting metabolic rate should be
1900, I've
figured it at other sites and come up between 1800 and 1900 - so again,
close
enough. That isn't taking into consideration the exercise I have been
doing. I
am averaging 1600 calories/day, definitely not starving myself - no junk
either.
That doesn't seem too high nor too low to me. So like Krys, I am
wondering ... do
I eat more, do I eat less, is this still fluids I'm hanging onto? I'm too
close
to what I consider my danger zone - and I'm fighting hard to keep panic
from
setting in.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:42:00 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

By all means make your goal date a year away, it will end up very very
accurate that way because it will stop trying to get you someplace too
quick.

I really freak when I am in the one sixes, but what I really don't want
to
be over is 161 since that would make me pay now...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Hmmmmm, maybe I should focus on 132.5 and split the difference? By
looking at
that 130 I tend to frustrate myself, as my weight is usually between
129
and 132
... more often towards the higher number. And dietpower does me in
when I
go over
the 130 (that's what I have set as my *goal*) - drops my budget,
metabollic rate,
all kinds of goofy things even when over only by half a pound. This
tends
to put
me in panic mode. Will it stop yelling at me if I raise that goal ...
or
maybe
make the goal date more like a year from now, instead of a week from
now?
g

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:49:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I panic when I get into the one sixers. Know just what you mean.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, an up ... think 2 pounds or close to it. This week has been
back
down. I
panic for some reason when over 130 ... yet I know my *danger zone*
is
135 - when
I really kick things in gear. I think I need to focus more on that
135.
Or maybe
not. Focusing on that 130 seems to keep me more in control of
things -
even
though I know I swing up and down from there (more up than down).

I did check my jean sizes when out a few weeks ago. While it was
fun
to
learn I
have decreased a size, I didn't buy anything other than that pair of
capris. The
current jeans are not unnacceptably baggy - they are comfy ... and
they
are jeans.
I can continue to get by with what I have. I'll have to dig through
the
summer
t's soon though - not sure what I have from last year. Shorts
should
be
fine.

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:51:25 -0700, Fred
wrote:

I have to presume that it is an UP?

The food sounds good including the salt!

My jeans also seem more roomy even with the weight variations. I
was
thinking of hitting Costco and check on the next size down but
maybe I
should not jump the gun.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500, Joyce wrote:

ARGHHHHHHHHH! 132.4 this morning ... tom again, already,
whatever.
Need I say
more? I swear my body has now decided to go totally wacko on me.
g
Other than
that, and possibly two days of eating some fantastic jambalaya
(which
was rather
salty) no reasonable explanation.

On the plus side ... my jeans are feeling incredibly baggy. LOL

Joyce

I have been counting points and have been right on target - that's what's so dang
frustrating about the whole thing. Frustration got the best of me over the
week-end and I took the *I don't give a dang* attitude, totally enjoyed myself and
didn't worry much about what I was eating. Some of it was good, some of it wasn't
- I was over points every day but made tradeoffs. I figured as hard as I was
working with cleaning out the basement and garage, lugging crap up the stairs and
out to the curb, AND still getting in the treadmill - I had to have earned
something! And the funny thing with eating the way I did, I found that today the
scale read the exact same thing - not up as expected. I consider this to be a
step in the right direction, considering I haven't (ahem, not sure how to say
this) emptyed myself out for 2 days. g We'll see ... tomorrow more than likely
WILL be up, only due to the fact that I was too tired to cook dinner and opted for
pizza. When my butt finally hit a chair, that was the end of me. LOL But at
least we compromised and decided to try the new pizza hut fit 'n delicious pizza
everyone has been raving about. As much as I love my deep dish spinach pizza, I
must admit this one was dang good and could easily become a new favorite.

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:47:20 -0500, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

maybe go back to counting points for a bit as a security zone, then put the
journal into the diet program after a week to compare, Lee, just grasping
here
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
IKES! This program is really starting to drive me totally nuts. I
changed the
goal date to a year away, which accomplished what I wanted to ... put me
on a
maintenance diet instead of a losing diet (not sure why that ever happened
anyway). The freaky thing that happened is that the program for some
reason went
back to the beginning are recalculated EVERYTHING. I found that my
metabollic
rate for when I first started the program is now at 500 calories - and
holds that
for about a week. Then it shot me up quite a bit, dropped me back down
and now
sits and tells me that my metabollic rate should be 1150. I don't think
so!
I'll run with it awhile longer and see if it starts creeping back up to a
more
realistic number.

I'm in the freak mode right now, am totally clueless as to what I am going
through
or what my body is. I know I had a bad week over Easter, after that I
have been
very much on track ... almost too good, for me. g Weight is not
unreasonable,
flucuating between 132-133. But it does not want to come down any further
and it
makes no sense to me. I am beginning to feel exactly like Krys - makes no
sense
as to how you can eat less, exercise more, and watch the scale move up.
sigh

As a little insight ... I have been tracking my treadmill usage this past
week. I
trekked 25 miles in a tad over 6 hours ... all of it uphill. g That
works out
to *about* 2600 calories burnt off over the course of the week.
Caloriesperhour.com calculates it as 2425 calories, so I figure the info
I've
calculated is pretty dang close when taking difference in speeds and
incline
levels into account. Fitday *says* my resting metabolic rate should be
1900, I've
figured it at other sites and come up between 1800 and 1900 - so again,
close
enough. That isn't taking into consideration the exercise I have been
doing. I
am averaging 1600 calories/day, definitely not starving myself - no junk
either.
That doesn't seem too high nor too low to me. So like Krys, I am
wondering ... do
I eat more, do I eat less, is this still fluids I'm hanging onto? I'm too
close
to what I consider my danger zone - and I'm fighting hard to keep panic
from
setting in.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:42:00 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

By all means make your goal date a year away, it will end up very very
accurate that way because it will stop trying to get you someplace too
quick.

I really freak when I am in the one sixes, but what I really don't want
to
be over is 161 since that would make me pay now...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Hmmmmm, maybe I should focus on 132.5 and split the difference? By
looking at
that 130 I tend to frustrate myself, as my weight is usually between
129
and 132
... more often towards the higher number. And dietpower does me in
when I
go over
the 130 (that's what I have set as my *goal*) - drops my budget,
metabollic rate,
all kinds of goofy things even when over only by half a pound. This
tends
to put
me in panic mode. Will it stop yelling at me if I raise that goal ...
or
maybe
make the goal date more like a year from now, instead of a week from
now?
g

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:49:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I panic when I get into the one sixers. Know just what you mean.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, an up ... think 2 pounds or close to it. This week has been
back
down. I
panic for some reason when over 130 ... yet I know my *danger zone*
is
135 - when
I really kick things in gear. I think I need to focus more on that
135.
Or maybe
not. Focusing on that 130 seems to keep me more in control of
things -
even
though I know I swing up and down from there (more up than down).

I did check my jean sizes when out a few weeks ago. While it was
fun
to
learn I
have decreased a size, I didn't buy anything other than that pair of
capris. The
current jeans are not unnacceptably baggy - they are comfy ... and
they
are jeans.
I can continue to get by with what I have. I'll have to dig through
the
summer
t's soon though - not sure what I have from last year. Shorts
should
be
fine.

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:51:25 -0700, Fred
wrote:

I have to presume that it is an UP?

The food sounds good including the salt!

My jeans also seem more roomy even with the weight variations. I
was
thinking of hitting Costco and check on the next size down but
maybe I
should not jump the gun.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500, Joyce wrote:

ARGHHHHHHHHH! 132.4 this morning ... tom again, already,
whatever.
Need I say
more? I swear my body has now decided to go totally wacko on me.
g
Other than
that, and possibly two days of eating some fantastic jambalaya
(which
was rather
salty) no reasonable explanation.

On the plus side ... my jeans are feeling incredibly baggy. LOL

Joyce

I wish I could equate the gain the scale is telling me with eating too much ...
but I haven't been (that I'm aware of anyway). At least until this past week-end
when I just decided to do whatever I danged well please. g I haven't a clue
either what is up with the program, it makes no sense to me. I start it up, log
my daily weight, then it yells at me that it has dropped the metabolic rate to a
level that is hard to meet nutritional needs. Well DUH! I highly doubt that my
metabolic rate REALLY is sitting at 1100 (today's reading). Every day it goes
lower, regardless as to whether I show a loss, gain or maintain. Maybe the
program is as stumped with what my body seems to now be going through, as I am?
g If this does keep up for another week or so, then I am going to erase the
records and start totally over and see where it takes me.

This week-end really was an oddity for me though, and with all the work I did I
can see where my defenses were down. Totally worn out + starving seems to make me
look for that sugar and/or carb combo, along with really too tired to think about
cooking and THEN cleaning up. I craved real soda, gave in ... and daughter
brought home REAL sundaes when she returned from picking through the town's
garbage. sigh I do think I worked the majority of it off, before it even
entered my mouth. g I'm back in the swing of things today, after taking the
week-end off and it feels pretty good.

Joyce

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:44:11 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well, I can relate. I feel as if I am getting ready to freak out and gain
myself. I am having a very difficult time with wanting to EAT everything.
My weight is creeping up. Just using the average thing it is only a pound
or two, but things just feel out of control. I don't know what is up with
your diet power, maybe just give it some time? I know when I start over
with the thing and change something, I usually erase the old records so it
Really starts over. It gives me, at my height and weight, around 1800 which
I think is realistic. I am having a real hard time sticking with it. Some
days go fine, then I get into the sugar and look out....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
IKES! This program is really starting to drive me totally nuts. I
changed the
goal date to a year away, which accomplished what I wanted to ... put me
on a
maintenance diet instead of a losing diet (not sure why that ever happened
anyway). The freaky thing that happened is that the program for some
reason went
back to the beginning are recalculated EVERYTHING. I found that my
metabollic
rate for when I first started the program is now at 500 calories - and
holds that
for about a week. Then it shot me up quite a bit, dropped me back down
and now
sits and tells me that my metabollic rate should be 1150. I don't think
so!
I'll run with it awhile longer and see if it starts creeping back up to a
more
realistic number.

I'm in the freak mode right now, am totally clueless as to what I am going
through
or what my body is. I know I had a bad week over Easter, after that I
have been
very much on track ... almost too good, for me. g Weight is not
unreasonable,
flucuating between 132-133. But it does not want to come down any further
and it
makes no sense to me. I am beginning to feel exactly like Krys - makes no
sense
as to how you can eat less, exercise more, and watch the scale move up.
sigh

As a little insight ... I have been tracking my treadmill usage this past
week. I
trekked 25 miles in a tad over 6 hours ... all of it uphill. g That
works out
to *about* 2600 calories burnt off over the course of the week.
Caloriesperhour.com calculates it as 2425 calories, so I figure the info
I've
calculated is pretty dang close when taking difference in speeds and
incline
levels into account. Fitday *says* my resting metabolic rate should be
1900, I've
figured it at other sites and come up between 1800 and 1900 - so again,
close
enough. That isn't taking into consideration the exercise I have been
doing. I
am averaging 1600 calories/day, definitely not starving myself - no junk
either.
That doesn't seem too high nor too low to me. So like Krys, I am
wondering ... do
I eat more, do I eat less, is this still fluids I'm hanging onto? I'm too
close
to what I consider my danger zone - and I'm fighting hard to keep panic
from
setting in.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:42:00 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

By all means make your goal date a year away, it will end up very very
accurate that way because it will stop trying to get you someplace too
quick.

I really freak when I am in the one sixes, but what I really don't want
to
be over is 161 since that would make me pay now...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Hmmmmm, maybe I should focus on 132.5 and split the difference? By
looking at
that 130 I tend to frustrate myself, as my weight is usually between
129
and 132
... more often towards the higher number. And dietpower does me in
when I
go over
the 130 (that's what I have set as my *goal*) - drops my budget,
metabollic rate,
all kinds of goofy things even when over only by half a pound. This
tends
to put
me in panic mode. Will it stop yelling at me if I raise that goal ...
or
maybe
make the goal date more like a year from now, instead of a week from
now?
g

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:49:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I panic when I get into the one sixers. Know just what you mean.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, an up ... think 2 pounds or close to it. This week has been
back
down. I
panic for some reason when over 130 ... yet I know my *danger zone*
is
135 - when
I really kick things in gear. I think I need to focus more on that
135.
Or maybe
not. Focusing on that 130 seems to keep me more in control of
things -
even
though I know I swing up and down from there (more up than down).

I did check my jean sizes when out a few weeks ago. While it was
fun
to
learn I
have decreased a size, I didn't buy anything other than that pair of
capris. The
current jeans are not unnacceptably baggy - they are comfy ... and
they
are jeans.
I can continue to get by with what I have. I'll have to dig through
the
summer
t's soon though - not sure what I have from last year. Shorts
should
be
fine.

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:51:25 -0700, Fred
wrote:

I have to presume that it is an UP?

The food sounds good including the salt!

My jeans also seem more roomy even with the weight variations. I
was
thinking of hitting Costco and check on the next size down but
maybe I
should not jump the gun.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500, Joyce wrote:

ARGHHHHHHHHH! 132.4 this morning ... tom again, already,
whatever.
Need I say
more? I swear my body has now decided to go totally wacko on me.
g
Other than
that, and possibly two days of eating some fantastic jambalaya
(which
was rather
salty) no reasonable explanation.

On the plus side ... my jeans are feeling incredibly baggy. LOL

Joyce

You should probably start over. Make a new Joyce, and put yourself on a
maintenance diet with the year as the date. That should fix it.

--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I wish I could equate the gain the scale is telling me with eating too
much ...
but I haven't been (that I'm aware of anyway). At least until this past
week-end
when I just decided to do whatever I danged well please. g I haven't a
clue
either what is up with the program, it makes no sense to me. I start it
up, log
my daily weight, then it yells at me that it has dropped the metabolic
rate to a
level that is hard to meet nutritional needs. Well DUH! I highly doubt
that my
metabolic rate REALLY is sitting at 1100 (today's reading). Every day it
goes
lower, regardless as to whether I show a loss, gain or maintain. Maybe
the
program is as stumped with what my body seems to now be going through, as
I am?
g If this does keep up for another week or so, then I am going to erase
the
records and start totally over and see where it takes me.

This week-end really was an oddity for me though, and with all the work I
did I
can see where my defenses were down. Totally worn out + starving seems to
make me
look for that sugar and/or carb combo, along with really too tired to
think about
cooking and THEN cleaning up. I craved real soda, gave in ... and
daughter
brought home REAL sundaes when she returned from picking through the
town's
garbage. sigh I do think I worked the majority of it off, before it
even
entered my mouth. g I'm back in the swing of things today, after taking
the
week-end off and it feels pretty good.

Joyce

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:44:11 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well, I can relate. I feel as if I am getting ready to freak out and
gain
myself. I am having a very difficult time with wanting to EAT
everything.
My weight is creeping up. Just using the average thing it is only a
pound
or two, but things just feel out of control. I don't know what is up
with
your diet power, maybe just give it some time? I know when I start over
with the thing and change something, I usually erase the old records so
it
Really starts over. It gives me, at my height and weight, around 1800
which
I think is realistic. I am having a real hard time sticking with it.
Some
days go fine, then I get into the sugar and look out....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
IKES! This program is really starting to drive me totally nuts. I
changed the
goal date to a year away, which accomplished what I wanted to ... put
me
on a
maintenance diet instead of a losing diet (not sure why that ever
happened
anyway). The freaky thing that happened is that the program for some
reason went
back to the beginning are recalculated EVERYTHING. I found that my
metabollic
rate for when I first started the program is now at 500 calories - and
holds that
for about a week. Then it shot me up quite a bit, dropped me back down
and now
sits and tells me that my metabollic rate should be 1150. I don't
think
so!
I'll run with it awhile longer and see if it starts creeping back up to
a
more
realistic number.

I'm in the freak mode right now, am totally clueless as to what I am
going
through
or what my body is. I know I had a bad week over Easter, after that I
have been
very much on track ... almost too good, for me. g Weight is not
unreasonable,
flucuating between 132-133. But it does not want to come down any
further
and it
makes no sense to me. I am beginning to feel exactly like Krys - makes
no
sense
as to how you can eat less, exercise more, and watch the scale move up.
sigh

As a little insight ... I have been tracking my treadmill usage this
past
week. I
trekked 25 miles in a tad over 6 hours ... all of it uphill. g That
works out
to *about* 2600 calories burnt off over the course of the week.
Caloriesperhour.com calculates it as 2425 calories, so I figure the
info
I've
calculated is pretty dang close when taking difference in speeds and
incline
levels into account. Fitday *says* my resting metabolic rate should be
1900, I've
figured it at other sites and come up between 1800 and 1900 - so again,
close
enough. That isn't taking into consideration the exercise I have been
doing. I
am averaging 1600 calories/day, definitely not starving myself - no
junk
either.
That doesn't seem too high nor too low to me. So like Krys, I am
wondering ... do
I eat more, do I eat less, is this still fluids I'm hanging onto? I'm
too
close
to what I consider my danger zone - and I'm fighting hard to keep panic
from
setting in.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:42:00 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

By all means make your goal date a year away, it will end up very very
accurate that way because it will stop trying to get you someplace too
quick.

I really freak when I am in the one sixes, but what I really don't
want
to
be over is 161 since that would make me pay now...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Hmmmmm, maybe I should focus on 132.5 and split the difference? By
looking at
that 130 I tend to frustrate myself, as my weight is usually between
129
and 132
... more often towards the higher number. And dietpower does me in
when I
go over
the 130 (that's what I have set as my *goal*) - drops my budget,
metabollic rate,
all kinds of goofy things even when over only by half a pound. This
tends
to put
me in panic mode. Will it stop yelling at me if I raise that goal
....
or
maybe
make the goal date more like a year from now, instead of a week from
now?
g

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:49:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I panic when I get into the one sixers. Know just what you mean.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, an up ... think 2 pounds or close to it. This week has been
back
down. I
panic for some reason when over 130 ... yet I know my *danger
zone*
is
135 - when
I really kick things in gear. I think I need to focus more on
that
135.
Or maybe
not. Focusing on that 130 seems to keep me more in control of
things -
even
though I know I swing up and down from there (more up than down).

I did check my jean sizes when out a few weeks ago. While it was
fun
to
learn I
have decreased a size, I didn't buy anything other than that pair
of
capris. The
current jeans are not unnacceptably baggy - they are comfy ...
and
they
are jeans.
I can continue to get by with what I have. I'll have to dig
through
the
summer
t's soon though - not sure what I have from last year. Shorts
should
be
fine.

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:51:25 -0700, Fred

wrote:

I have to presume that it is an UP?

The food sounds good including the salt!

My jeans also seem more roomy even with the weight variations.
I
was
thinking of hitting Costco and check on the next size down but
maybe I
should not jump the gun.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500, Joyce wrote:

ARGHHHHHHHHH! 132.4 this morning ... tom again, already,
whatever.
Need I say
more? I swear my body has now decided to go totally wacko on
me.
g
Other than
that, and possibly two days of eating some fantastic jambalaya
(which
was rather
salty) no reasonable explanation.

On the plus side ... my jeans are feeling incredibly baggy.
LOL

Joyce

glad it isn't up, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
I have been counting points and have been right on target - that's what's
so dang
frustrating about the whole thing. Frustration got the best of me over
the
week-end and I took the *I don't give a dang* attitude, totally enjoyed
myself and
didn't worry much about what I was eating. Some of it was good, some of
it wasn't
- I was over points every day but made tradeoffs. I figured as hard as I
was
working with cleaning out the basement and garage, lugging crap up the
stairs and
out to the curb, AND still getting in the treadmill - I had to have earned
something! And the funny thing with eating the way I did, I found that
today the
scale read the exact same thing - not up as expected. I consider this to
be a
step in the right direction, considering I haven't (ahem, not sure how to
say
this) emptyed myself out for 2 days. g We'll see ... tomorrow more than
likely
WILL be up, only due to the fact that I was too tired to cook dinner and
opted for
pizza. When my butt finally hit a chair, that was the end of me. LOL But
at
least we compromised and decided to try the new pizza hut fit 'n delicious
pizza
everyone has been raving about. As much as I love my deep dish spinach
pizza, I
must admit this one was dang good and could easily become a new favorite.

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:47:20 -0500, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

maybe go back to counting points for a bit as a security zone, then put
the
journal into the diet program after a week to compare, Lee, just grasping
here
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
IKES! This program is really starting to drive me totally nuts. I
changed the
goal date to a year away, which accomplished what I wanted to ... put
me
on a
maintenance diet instead of a losing diet (not sure why that ever
happened
anyway). The freaky thing that happened is that the program for some
reason went
back to the beginning are recalculated EVERYTHING. I found that my
metabollic
rate for when I first started the program is now at 500 calories - and
holds that
for about a week. Then it shot me up quite a bit, dropped me back down
and now
sits and tells me that my metabollic rate should be 1150. I don't
think
so!
I'll run with it awhile longer and see if it starts creeping back up to
a
more
realistic number.

I'm in the freak mode right now, am totally clueless as to what I am
going
through
or what my body is. I know I had a bad week over Easter, after that I
have been
very much on track ... almost too good, for me. g Weight is not
unreasonable,
flucuating between 132-133. But it does not want to come down any
further
and it
makes no sense to me. I am beginning to feel exactly like Krys - makes
no
sense
as to how you can eat less, exercise more, and watch the scale move up.
sigh

As a little insight ... I have been tracking my treadmill usage this
past
week. I
trekked 25 miles in a tad over 6 hours ... all of it uphill. g That
works out
to *about* 2600 calories burnt off over the course of the week.
Caloriesperhour.com calculates it as 2425 calories, so I figure the
info
I've
calculated is pretty dang close when taking difference in speeds and
incline
levels into account. Fitday *says* my resting metabolic rate should be
1900, I've
figured it at other sites and come up between 1800 and 1900 - so again,
close
enough. That isn't taking into consideration the exercise I have been
doing. I
am averaging 1600 calories/day, definitely not starving myself - no
junk
either.
That doesn't seem too high nor too low to me. So like Krys, I am
wondering ... do
I eat more, do I eat less, is this still fluids I'm hanging onto? I'm
too
close
to what I consider my danger zone - and I'm fighting hard to keep panic
from
setting in.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:42:00 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

By all means make your goal date a year away, it will end up very very
accurate that way because it will stop trying to get you someplace too
quick.

I really freak when I am in the one sixes, but what I really don't
want
to
be over is 161 since that would make me pay now...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Hmmmmm, maybe I should focus on 132.5 and split the difference? By
looking at
that 130 I tend to frustrate myself, as my weight is usually between
129
and 132
... more often towards the higher number. And dietpower does me in
when I
go over
the 130 (that's what I have set as my *goal*) - drops my budget,
metabollic rate,
all kinds of goofy things even when over only by half a pound. This
tends
to put
me in panic mode. Will it stop yelling at me if I raise that goal
....
or
maybe
make the goal date more like a year from now, instead of a week from
now?
g

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:49:42 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I panic when I get into the one sixers. Know just what you mean.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Yup, an up ... think 2 pounds or close to it. This week has been
back
down. I
panic for some reason when over 130 ... yet I know my *danger
zone*
is
135 - when
I really kick things in gear. I think I need to focus more on
that
135.
Or maybe
not. Focusing on that 130 seems to keep me more in control of
things -
even
though I know I swing up and down from there (more up than down).

I did check my jean sizes when out a few weeks ago. While it was
fun
to
learn I
have decreased a size, I didn't buy anything other than that pair
of
capris. The
current jeans are not unnacceptably baggy - they are comfy ...
and
they
are jeans.
I can continue to get by with what I have. I'll have to dig
through
the
summer
t's soon though - not sure what I have from last year. Shorts
should
be
fine.

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:51:25 -0700, Fred

wrote:

I have to presume that it is an UP?

The food sounds good including the salt!

My jeans also seem more roomy even with the weight variations.
I
was
thinking of hitting Costco and check on the next size down but
maybe I
should not jump the gun.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:23:28 -0500, Joyce wrote:

ARGHHHHHHHHH! 132.4 this morning ... tom again, already,
whatever.
Need I say
more? I swear my body has now decided to go totally wacko on
me.
g
Other than
that, and possibly two days of eating some fantastic jambalaya
(which
was rather
salty) no reasonable explanation.

On the plus side ... my jeans are feeling incredibly baggy.
LOL

Joyce

Thanks, I did take your advice and start anew. Now I have tons of calories to
work with. g I am beginning to think I'm not eating enough though, not enough
to offset the exercise. I ate more this past week, weight has come down a bit. I
am now laughing at the old *me* in the program ... who is now allowed to eat 1050
calories on a maintenance diet (and being UNDER my maintenance weight).

Joyce

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:29:19 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

You should probably start over. Make a new Joyce, and put yourself on a
maintenance diet with the year as the date. That should fix it.

--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I wish I could equate the gain the scale is telling me with eating too
much ...
but I haven't been (that I'm aware of anyway). At least until this past
week-end
when I just decided to do whatever I danged well please. g I haven't a
clue
either what is up with the program, it makes no sense to me. I start it
up, log
my daily weight, then it yells at me that it has dropped the metabolic
rate to a
level that is hard to meet nutritional needs. Well DUH! I highly doubt
that my
metabolic rate REALLY is sitting at 1100 (today's reading). Every day it
goes
lower, regardless as to whether I show a loss, gain or maintain. Maybe
the
program is as stumped with what my body seems to now be going through, as
I am?
g If this does keep up for another week or so, then I am going to erase
the
records and start totally over and see where it takes me.

This week-end really was an oddity for me though, and with all the work I
did I
can see where my defenses were down. Totally worn out + starving seems to
make me
look for that sugar and/or carb combo, along with really too tired to
think about
cooking and THEN cleaning up. I craved real soda, gave in ... and
daughter
brought home REAL sundaes when she returned from picking through the
town's
garbage. sigh I do think I worked the majority of it off, before it
even
entered my mouth. g I'm back in the swing of things today, after taking
the
week-end off and it feels pretty good.

Joyce

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:44:11 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well, I can relate. I feel as if I am getting ready to freak out and
gain
myself. I am having a very difficult time with wanting to EAT
everything.
My weight is creeping up. Just using the average thing it is only a
pound
or two, but things just feel out of control. I don't know what is up
with
your diet power, maybe just give it some time? I know when I start over
with the thing and change something, I usually erase the old records so
it
Really starts over. It gives me, at my height and weight, around 1800
which
I think is realistic. I am having a real hard time sticking with it.
Some
days go fine, then I get into the sugar and look out....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
IKES! This program is really starting to drive me totally nuts. I
changed the
goal date to a year away, which accomplished what I wanted to ... put
me
on a
maintenance diet instead of a losing diet (not sure why that ever
happened
anyway). The freaky thing that happened is that the program for some
reason went
back to the beginning are recalculated EVERYTHING. I found that my
metabollic
rate for when I first started the program is now at 500 calories - and
holds that
for about a week. Then it shot me up quite a bit, dropped me back down
and now
sits and tells me that my metabollic rate should be 1150. I don't
think
so!
I'll run with it awhile longer and see if it starts creeping back up to
a
more
realistic number.

I'm in the freak mode right now, am totally clueless as to what I am
going
through
or what my body is. I know I had a bad week over Easter, after that I
have been
very much on track ... almost too good, for me. g Weight is not
unreasonable,
flucuating between 132-133. But it does not want to come down any
further
and it
makes no sense to me. I am beginning to feel exactly like Krys - makes
no
sense
as to how you can eat less, exercise more, and watch the scale move up.
sigh

As a little insight ... I have been tracking my treadmill usage this
past
week. I
trekked 25 miles in a tad over 6 hours ... all of it uphill. g That
works out
to *about* 2600 calories burnt off over the course of the week.
Caloriesperhour.com calculates it as 2425 calories, so I figure the
info
I've
calculated is pretty dang close when taking difference in speeds and
incline
levels into account. Fitday *says* my resting metabolic rate should be
1900, I've
figured it at other sites and come up between 1800 and 1900 - so again,
close
enough. That isn't taking into consideration the exercise I have been
doing. I
am averaging 1600 calories/day, definitely not starving myself - no
junk
either.
That doesn't seem too high nor too low to me. So like Krys, I am
wondering ... do
I eat more, do I eat less, is this still fluids I'm hanging onto? I'm
too
close
to what I consider my danger zone - and I'm fighting hard to keep panic
from
setting in.

Joyce