RAFL wk 3/THTP wk 7 - Laura (LJ)

I am thinking that I am that kind of person too. I did the best back in May
and June when I attended meetings. Being away for the summer worked out
okay. It was coming home after 2.5 months. I just could not get the hang of
FlexPoints and how to deal with my eating out. I think Hubby got lax about
it too.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I too must have the meeting, Lee
Lesanne wrote in message
...
You are going to be doing great, says she who cannot do it without her
meeting . .. ..

"Laura" wrote in message
...
Well I bit the bullet today and rejoined WW. Mom gave me a American
Express
gift card for xmas so that's how I am going to spend a chunk of it. I
also
bought an exercise tape for days that I can't make it to curves plus a
digital food scale to replace my 20 year old manual scale. Maybe that
will
help things along.

Based on my preliminary discussion with the leader my eating out is
the
culprit. I need to treat those meals as replacement meals for those
had
at
home. No splurging or over sized portions. I think this summer when we
went
out I did better at portion control and choices because my mother and
husband were always there keeping my honest. Now I eat out with my
overweight neighbor so it is a lot harder to stay OP. I will have to
work
on that one.

The other thing I have been doing wrong is falling into the rut of
having
the same things for breakfast and lunch. So I bought waffles and
another
brand of cereal for breakfast. For lunches this week it will be
different
everyday as I bought 5 Lean Cuisines that were on sale. Maybe I'll add
sandwiches in every once in a while. I'll add a salad or celery/carrot
sticks to the meal plus jello or yogart for dessert. Dinner has always
been
different each night so that's not a problem. I'm going to give the
Flex
plan another try before switching back to the old plan. Maybe I'll
make
it
a
point to have my leader check my journals each week I don't have a
loss.
Maybe having more eyes watch what I am doing helped this summer. Who
knows
any more.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I don't think the choice of journals would be overly difficult
either,
since they
have the older type journaling available for other countries. WW
website
does
need to get with things a bit. It's good, but could be soooooo much
better. I
have never seen the paper journals handed out at the meetings. What
is
different
about them? I would definitely be interested in hearing the
differences.
Isn't
it funny how people's minds work so differently? I've found that
with
the
flexpoint system I actually eat less than I did when using the old
system.
And
eating less is not necessarily a good thing! I know it is something
in
my
head
about the possibility of overeating - yet the math works out to
pretty
much the
same. Oh well, whatever works for us individually is what we should
stick
with.
G

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:17:38 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I was actually wondering about that and when I was looking at the
journal
one thing DH pointed out is that the on line journal is even
different
from
the paper one they give us at meetings. I hated depriving myself
to
get
the
extra I always felt anxiety about saving enough points and I
worried
my
treat wouldn't work out so I would get gypped. Now with the flex
points
I
can ignore them for the most part and if there are any left at the
end
of
the week I can have a treat. I think it is a shame that WW does
not
support
the other journal as well, but then the site could be so much more
than
it
is. I think they are in great need of a designer that could help
with
formatting and speech compatibility for sure. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm still thinking the flex is difficult to work around
maintenance -
then
again,
it's probably just something in my own head. Losing and knowing
that
there are
extra points available is one thing ... trying to hold tight and
having
them
flaunting themselves in my face is something else entirely. G
I
think
I'm the
sort that has to have the incentive to *work* - hence the banking
system
works
better for me. If I WANT to indulge, then I know I HAVE to get
off
my
butt and
work for it - balance things out, give and take so to speak. I
don't
mind using
the old program at all, I only wish the online website would
allow
us
to
have a
choice of which journal to use, instead of forcing the issue.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

isn't it odd how different things work for different people,
flex
works
even
better than the old one and that one worked fine, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
That sounds like a very reasonable plan, Laura. You're also
incorporating
dining
out into the plan, which sounds to me like maybe this is just
an
adjusted
form of
the Wendy plan. So far I haven't really been able to get the
flex
plan
to
work
very well for me ... probably just something in my head that
is
refusing
to kick
in. I tend to horde points on the flex plan, and eat too
little.
Having
that
huge number looking at me all the time is just plain scary -
doesn't
work
for me.
So back to the old program for me also. I'm wishing you lots
of
success!

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:13:04 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

It is a 2 week program. I'm going to do it for a while longer
but
not
as
low
as 20 points. I want to ease back to the old mininum of 24
and
switch
to
the
old plan. I tend to eat low by nature on days that I am OP.
yesterday
was
18
and that was only because I had a bag of soy crisps before
bed.
BUT
this
is
only to BANK for the days that I eat out. Tonight (weather
permitting)
is
Chinese buffet night. I need to have enough points to cover
that.
Eating
low
on all of the other days is what worked this summer. We'll
see
how
long
this
works for but it is worth a shot. The regular Flex plan does
not
seem
to
fit
my life style.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Way to go on the fantastic loss this week! Sure looks like
the
fast
track
plan
worked very well for you. How long are you planning on
sticking
with
it?
I
thought it was only a 2 week program, but I really didn't
look
overly
close at it.
My fear would be that if you stay on it for much longer
than
that,
you
could
possibly mess up your metabolism - if you are in a range
where
your
body
requires
many more calories. Then again, what do I know! LOL

Glad you are back on the losing end of the game, Laura.
And
good
luck
this week!

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:41:24 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

RAFL wk 3: down 2.5 to 212.5. Total loss to date is 33.1
lbs.

I decided to try the Fast Track plan this week. I started
the
week
out
good
and dropped the 2.5 lbs by Tuesday. Then the scale did not
want
to
move
anymore. I did see 211.5 one day this week but the daily
fluctuations
landed
on 212.5. I OD'd on French Onion soup Friday night at Ruby
Tuesdays.
One
bowl did have the cheese & bread but the second one did
not.
It
has
been
so
cold and windy here lately with no sign of it letting up
so
I
wanted
soup
to
warm me up. I had their soup and salad bar for dinner. I
loaded
up
on
veggies and added 1/4 cupfuls of cheese, ham and cottage
cheese
for
protein.
For dessert I had some fruit and a little bit of chocolate
pudding.
Wouldn't
you know it yesterday morning I was up 2lbs from the salt
in
the
soup.
I
was
so glad to see the 2lbs gone this morning. WATER {glug}
truly
helps
flush
the extra salt from our bodies.

My game plan at this point is to continue with following
the
FT
except
on
days that I eat out. This is part of my WOL so I need to
find
a
way
to
properly incorporate it into my eating. So...I will eat
low
and
make
better
choices when I eat out. I think what I was doing wrong
since
September
is
eating my target & Activity points each day plus eating
out
2-3
nights
a
week. I'm not very good at calculating points when I don't
know
exactly
how
they made a dish so I probably under estimated my points
those
meal.
Truth
be told, I probably ate my Flexpoints a few times over
those
weeks.
So
now I
am back to eating low to bank for the times that I eat
out.
This
is
how I
was doing it last summer at my mothers house and it
worked.
So
far
it
is
working again.

Inches: 2.75" (total)

THTP wk 7: 4 Curves sessions

Thanks Lee. I am planning on doing that except for when I get the Applebee's
LF meals. They are low enough in points that I can eat the whole meal.
Tonight will be Subway. Thank god I can order a 6" sub and not worry about a
ton of points.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I think you have made a great start. Let us know how it works. I admit I
do eat out a bunch and the reason it works for me is that I try and keep
the
same eating pattern. When I want something that comes in a huge portion I
just get a to go box and put half in to start with so I am not tempted to
"just finish it off"... Good luck, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
Well I bit the bullet today and rejoined WW. Mom gave me a American
Express
gift card for xmas so that's how I am going to spend a chunk of it. I
also
bought an exercise tape for days that I can't make it to curves plus a
digital food scale to replace my 20 year old manual scale. Maybe that
will
help things along.

Based on my preliminary discussion with the leader my eating out is the
culprit. I need to treat those meals as replacement meals for those had
at
home. No splurging or over sized portions. I think this summer when we
went
out I did better at portion control and choices because my mother and
husband were always there keeping my honest. Now I eat out with my
overweight neighbor so it is a lot harder to stay OP. I will have to
work
on that one.

The other thing I have been doing wrong is falling into the rut of
having
the same things for breakfast and lunch. So I bought waffles and another
brand of cereal for breakfast. For lunches this week it will be
different
everyday as I bought 5 Lean Cuisines that were on sale. Maybe I'll add
sandwiches in every once in a while. I'll add a salad or celery/carrot
sticks to the meal plus jello or yogart for dessert. Dinner has always
been
different each night so that's not a problem. I'm going to give the Flex
plan another try before switching back to the old plan. Maybe I'll make
it
a
point to have my leader check my journals each week I don't have a loss.
Maybe having more eyes watch what I am doing helped this summer. Who
knows
any more.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I don't think the choice of journals would be overly difficult either,
since they
have the older type journaling available for other countries. WW
website
does
need to get with things a bit. It's good, but could be soooooo much
better. I
have never seen the paper journals handed out at the meetings. What
is
different
about them? I would definitely be interested in hearing the
differences.
Isn't
it funny how people's minds work so differently? I've found that with
the
flexpoint system I actually eat less than I did when using the old
system.
And
eating less is not necessarily a good thing! I know it is something
in
my
head
about the possibility of overeating - yet the math works out to pretty
much the
same. Oh well, whatever works for us individually is what we should
stick
with.
G

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:17:38 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I was actually wondering about that and when I was looking at the
journal
one thing DH pointed out is that the on line journal is even
different
from
the paper one they give us at meetings. I hated depriving myself to
get
the
extra I always felt anxiety about saving enough points and I worried
my
treat wouldn't work out so I would get gypped. Now with the flex
points
I
can ignore them for the most part and if there are any left at the
end
of
the week I can have a treat. I think it is a shame that WW does not
support
the other journal as well, but then the site could be so much more
than
it
is. I think they are in great need of a designer that could help
with
formatting and speech compatibility for sure. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm still thinking the flex is difficult to work around
maintenance -
then
again,
it's probably just something in my own head. Losing and knowing
that
there are
extra points available is one thing ... trying to hold tight and
having
them
flaunting themselves in my face is something else entirely. G I
think
I'm the
sort that has to have the incentive to *work* - hence the banking
system
works
better for me. If I WANT to indulge, then I know I HAVE to get off
my
butt and
work for it - balance things out, give and take so to speak. I
don't
mind using
the old program at all, I only wish the online website would allow
us
to
have a
choice of which journal to use, instead of forcing the issue.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

isn't it odd how different things work for different people, flex
works
even
better than the old one and that one worked fine, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
That sounds like a very reasonable plan, Laura. You're also
incorporating
dining
out into the plan, which sounds to me like maybe this is just an
adjusted
form of
the Wendy plan. So far I haven't really been able to get the
flex
plan
to
work
very well for me ... probably just something in my head that is
refusing
to kick
in. I tend to horde points on the flex plan, and eat too
little.
Having
that
huge number looking at me all the time is just plain scary -
doesn't
work
for me.
So back to the old program for me also. I'm wishing you lots of
success!

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:13:04 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

It is a 2 week program. I'm going to do it for a while longer
but
not
as
low
as 20 points. I want to ease back to the old mininum of 24 and
switch
to
the
old plan. I tend to eat low by nature on days that I am OP.
yesterday
was
18
and that was only because I had a bag of soy crisps before bed.
BUT
this
is
only to BANK for the days that I eat out. Tonight (weather
permitting)
is
Chinese buffet night. I need to have enough points to cover
that.
Eating
low
on all of the other days is what worked this summer. We'll see
how
long
this
works for but it is worth a shot. The regular Flex plan does
not
seem
to
fit
my life style.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Way to go on the fantastic loss this week! Sure looks like
the
fast
track
plan
worked very well for you. How long are you planning on
sticking
with
it?
I
thought it was only a 2 week program, but I really didn't
look
overly
close at it.
My fear would be that if you stay on it for much longer than
that,
you
could
possibly mess up your metabolism - if you are in a range
where
your
body
requires
many more calories. Then again, what do I know! LOL

Glad you are back on the losing end of the game, Laura. And
good
luck
this week!

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:41:24 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

RAFL wk 3: down 2.5 to 212.5. Total loss to date is 33.1
lbs.

I decided to try the Fast Track plan this week. I started
the
week
out
good
and dropped the 2.5 lbs by Tuesday. Then the scale did not
want
to
move
anymore. I did see 211.5 one day this week but the daily
fluctuations
landed
on 212.5. I OD'd on French Onion soup Friday night at Ruby
Tuesdays.
One
bowl did have the cheese & bread but the second one did not.
It
has
been
so
cold and windy here lately with no sign of it letting up so
I
wanted
soup
to
warm me up. I had their soup and salad bar for dinner. I
loaded
up
on
veggies and added 1/4 cupfuls of cheese, ham and cottage
cheese
for
protein.
For dessert I had some fruit and a little bit of chocolate
pudding.
Wouldn't
you know it yesterday morning I was up 2lbs from the salt in
the
soup.
I
was
so glad to see the 2lbs gone this morning. WATER {glug}
truly
helps
flush
the extra salt from our bodies.

My game plan at this point is to continue with following the
FT
except
on
days that I eat out. This is part of my WOL so I need to
find
a
way
to
properly incorporate it into my eating. So...I will eat low
and
make
better
choices when I eat out. I think what I was doing wrong since
September
is
eating my target & Activity points each day plus eating out
2-3
nights
a
week. I'm not very good at calculating points when I don't
know
exactly
how
they made a dish so I probably under estimated my points
those
meal.
Truth
be told, I probably ate my Flexpoints a few times over those
weeks.
So
now I
am back to eating low to bank for the times that I eat out.
This
is
how I
was doing it last summer at my mothers house and it worked.
So
far
it
is
working again.

Inches: 2.75" (total)

THTP wk 7: 4 Curves sessions

I got the check book version for the first time yesterday. I'll be sticking
with my excel spreadsheet as I don't like not seeing how many total points I
have eaten for the day or how many flex points are left at the same time.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
the old paper journal was similar to what is on line now. The newer paper
one is more like a checkbook register, small and compact. Somebody who
has
actually looked at it needs to describe it, all I had to hear was
checkbook
and my brain switched off. The only good thing about the on line stuff is
that I have for the most part been able to do it by myself without a lot
of
help from DH. It is weird how our brains work and even though we know we
need to adapt the program to fit our needs and they tell us that at
meetings
it would be nice to see more practice of it, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
I don't think the choice of journals would be overly difficult either,
since they
have the older type journaling available for other countries. WW
website
does
need to get with things a bit. It's good, but could be soooooo much
better. I
have never seen the paper journals handed out at the meetings. What is
different
about them? I would definitely be interested in hearing the
differences.
Isn't
it funny how people's minds work so differently? I've found that with
the
flexpoint system I actually eat less than I did when using the old
system.
And
eating less is not necessarily a good thing! I know it is something in
my
head
about the possibility of overeating - yet the math works out to pretty
much the
same. Oh well, whatever works for us individually is what we should
stick
with.
G

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:17:38 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I was actually wondering about that and when I was looking at the
journal
one thing DH pointed out is that the on line journal is even different
from
the paper one they give us at meetings. I hated depriving myself to
get
the
extra I always felt anxiety about saving enough points and I worried my
treat wouldn't work out so I would get gypped. Now with the flex
points
I
can ignore them for the most part and if there are any left at the end
of
the week I can have a treat. I think it is a shame that WW does not
support
the other journal as well, but then the site could be so much more than
it
is. I think they are in great need of a designer that could help with
formatting and speech compatibility for sure. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm still thinking the flex is difficult to work around maintenance -
then
again,
it's probably just something in my own head. Losing and knowing that
there are
extra points available is one thing ... trying to hold tight and
having
them
flaunting themselves in my face is something else entirely. G I
think
I'm the
sort that has to have the incentive to *work* - hence the banking
system
works
better for me. If I WANT to indulge, then I know I HAVE to get off
my
butt and
work for it - balance things out, give and take so to speak. I
don't
mind using
the old program at all, I only wish the online website would allow us
to
have a
choice of which journal to use, instead of forcing the issue.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

isn't it odd how different things work for different people, flex
works
even
better than the old one and that one worked fine, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
That sounds like a very reasonable plan, Laura. You're also
incorporating
dining
out into the plan, which sounds to me like maybe this is just an
adjusted
form of
the Wendy plan. So far I haven't really been able to get the flex
plan
to
work
very well for me ... probably just something in my head that is
refusing
to kick
in. I tend to horde points on the flex plan, and eat too little.
Having
that
huge number looking at me all the time is just plain scary -
doesn't
work
for me.
So back to the old program for me also. I'm wishing you lots of
success!

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:13:04 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

It is a 2 week program. I'm going to do it for a while longer but
not
as
low
as 20 points. I want to ease back to the old mininum of 24 and
switch
to
the
old plan. I tend to eat low by nature on days that I am OP.
yesterday
was
18
and that was only because I had a bag of soy crisps before bed.
BUT
this
is
only to BANK for the days that I eat out. Tonight (weather
permitting)
is
Chinese buffet night. I need to have enough points to cover that.
Eating
low
on all of the other days is what worked this summer. We'll see
how
long
this
works for but it is worth a shot. The regular Flex plan does not
seem
to
fit
my life style.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Way to go on the fantastic loss this week! Sure looks like the
fast
track
plan
worked very well for you. How long are you planning on
sticking
with
it?
I
thought it was only a 2 week program, but I really didn't look
overly
close at it.
My fear would be that if you stay on it for much longer than
that,
you
could
possibly mess up your metabolism - if you are in a range where
your
body
requires
many more calories. Then again, what do I know! LOL

Glad you are back on the losing end of the game, Laura. And
good
luck
this week!

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:41:24 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

RAFL wk 3: down 2.5 to 212.5. Total loss to date is 33.1 lbs.

I decided to try the Fast Track plan this week. I started the
week
out
good
and dropped the 2.5 lbs by Tuesday. Then the scale did not
want
to
move
anymore. I did see 211.5 one day this week but the daily
fluctuations
landed
on 212.5. I OD'd on French Onion soup Friday night at Ruby
Tuesdays.
One
bowl did have the cheese & bread but the second one did not.
It
has
been
so
cold and windy here lately with no sign of it letting up so I
wanted
soup
to
warm me up. I had their soup and salad bar for dinner. I
loaded
up
on
veggies and added 1/4 cupfuls of cheese, ham and cottage
cheese
for
protein.
For dessert I had some fruit and a little bit of chocolate
pudding.
Wouldn't
you know it yesterday morning I was up 2lbs from the salt in
the
soup.
I
was
so glad to see the 2lbs gone this morning. WATER {glug} truly
helps
flush
the extra salt from our bodies.

My game plan at this point is to continue with following the
FT
except
on
days that I eat out. This is part of my WOL so I need to find
a
way
to
properly incorporate it into my eating. So...I will eat low
and
make
better
choices when I eat out. I think what I was doing wrong since
September
is
eating my target & Activity points each day plus eating out
2-3
nights
a
week. I'm not very good at calculating points when I don't
know
exactly
how
they made a dish so I probably under estimated my points those
meal.
Truth
be told, I probably ate my Flexpoints a few times over those
weeks.
So
now I
am back to eating low to bank for the times that I eat out.
This
is
how I
was doing it last summer at my mothers house and it worked. So
far
it
is
working again.

Inches: 2.75" (total)

THTP wk 7: 4 Curves sessions

I find it odd as I am not generally a joiner but for whatever reason I need
the meetings and hope to go every week even after I get to goal, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
I am thinking that I am that kind of person too. I did the best back in
May
and June when I attended meetings. Being away for the summer worked out
okay. It was coming home after 2.5 months. I just could not get the hang
of
FlexPoints and how to deal with my eating out. I think Hubby got lax about
it too.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I too must have the meeting, Lee
Lesanne wrote in message
...
You are going to be doing great, says she who cannot do it without her
meeting . .. ..

"Laura" wrote in message
...
Well I bit the bullet today and rejoined WW. Mom gave me a American
Express
gift card for xmas so that's how I am going to spend a chunk of it.
I
also
bought an exercise tape for days that I can't make it to curves plus
a
digital food scale to replace my 20 year old manual scale. Maybe
that
will
help things along.

Based on my preliminary discussion with the leader my eating out is
the
culprit. I need to treat those meals as replacement meals for those
had
at
home. No splurging or over sized portions. I think this summer when
we
went
out I did better at portion control and choices because my mother
and
husband were always there keeping my honest. Now I eat out with my
overweight neighbor so it is a lot harder to stay OP. I will have
to
work
on that one.

The other thing I have been doing wrong is falling into the rut of
having
the same things for breakfast and lunch. So I bought waffles and
another
brand of cereal for breakfast. For lunches this week it will be
different
everyday as I bought 5 Lean Cuisines that were on sale. Maybe I'll
add
sandwiches in every once in a while. I'll add a salad or
celery/carrot
sticks to the meal plus jello or yogart for dessert. Dinner has
always
been
different each night so that's not a problem. I'm going to give the
Flex
plan another try before switching back to the old plan. Maybe I'll
make
it
a
point to have my leader check my journals each week I don't have a
loss.
Maybe having more eyes watch what I am doing helped this summer. Who
knows
any more.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I don't think the choice of journals would be overly difficult
either,
since they
have the older type journaling available for other countries. WW
website
does
need to get with things a bit. It's good, but could be soooooo
much
better. I
have never seen the paper journals handed out at the meetings.
What
is
different
about them? I would definitely be interested in hearing the
differences.
Isn't
it funny how people's minds work so differently? I've found that
with
the
flexpoint system I actually eat less than I did when using the old
system.
And
eating less is not necessarily a good thing! I know it is
something
in
my
head
about the possibility of overeating - yet the math works out to
pretty
much the
same. Oh well, whatever works for us individually is what we
should
stick
with.
G

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:17:38 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I was actually wondering about that and when I was looking at the
journal
one thing DH pointed out is that the on line journal is even
different
from
the paper one they give us at meetings. I hated depriving myself
to
get
the
extra I always felt anxiety about saving enough points and I
worried
my
treat wouldn't work out so I would get gypped. Now with the flex
points
I
can ignore them for the most part and if there are any left at
the
end
of
the week I can have a treat. I think it is a shame that WW does
not
support
the other journal as well, but then the site could be so much
more
than
it
is. I think they are in great need of a designer that could help
with
formatting and speech compatibility for sure. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm still thinking the flex is difficult to work around
maintenance -
then
again,
it's probably just something in my own head. Losing and
knowing
that
there are
extra points available is one thing ... trying to hold tight
and
having
them
flaunting themselves in my face is something else entirely. G
I
think
I'm the
sort that has to have the incentive to *work* - hence the
banking
system
works
better for me. If I WANT to indulge, then I know I HAVE to get
off
my
butt and
work for it - balance things out, give and take so to speak.
I
don't
mind using
the old program at all, I only wish the online website would
allow
us
to
have a
choice of which journal to use, instead of forcing the issue.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

isn't it odd how different things work for different people,
flex
works
even
better than the old one and that one worked fine, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
That sounds like a very reasonable plan, Laura. You're also
incorporating
dining
out into the plan, which sounds to me like maybe this is
just
an
adjusted
form of
the Wendy plan. So far I haven't really been able to get
the
flex
plan
to
work
very well for me ... probably just something in my head that
is
refusing
to kick
in. I tend to horde points on the flex plan, and eat too
little.
Having
that
huge number looking at me all the time is just plain scary -
doesn't
work
for me.
So back to the old program for me also. I'm wishing you
lots
of
success!

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:13:04 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

It is a 2 week program. I'm going to do it for a while
longer
but
not
as
low
as 20 points. I want to ease back to the old mininum of 24
and
switch
to
the
old plan. I tend to eat low by nature on days that I am OP.
yesterday
was
18
and that was only because I had a bag of soy crisps before
bed.
BUT
this
is
only to BANK for the days that I eat out. Tonight (weather
permitting)
is
Chinese buffet night. I need to have enough points to cover
that.
Eating
low
on all of the other days is what worked this summer. We'll
see
how
long
this
works for but it is worth a shot. The regular Flex plan
does
not
seem
to
fit
my life style.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Way to go on the fantastic loss this week! Sure looks
like
the
fast
track
plan
worked very well for you. How long are you planning on
sticking
with
it?
I
thought it was only a 2 week program, but I really didn't
look
overly
close at it.
My fear would be that if you stay on it for much longer
than
that,
you
could
possibly mess up your metabolism - if you are in a range
where
your
body
requires
many more calories. Then again, what do I know! LOL

Glad you are back on the losing end of the game, Laura.
And
good
luck
this week!

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:41:24 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

RAFL wk 3: down 2.5 to 212.5. Total loss to date is 33.1
lbs.

I decided to try the Fast Track plan this week. I
started
the
week
out
good
and dropped the 2.5 lbs by Tuesday. Then the scale did
not
want
to
move
anymore. I did see 211.5 one day this week but the daily
fluctuations
landed
on 212.5. I OD'd on French Onion soup Friday night at
Ruby
Tuesdays.
One
bowl did have the cheese & bread but the second one did
not.
It
has
been
so
cold and windy here lately with no sign of it letting up
so
I
wanted
soup
to
warm me up. I had their soup and salad bar for dinner. I
loaded
up
on
veggies and added 1/4 cupfuls of cheese, ham and cottage
cheese
for
protein.
For dessert I had some fruit and a little bit of
chocolate
pudding.
Wouldn't
you know it yesterday morning I was up 2lbs from the
salt
in
the
soup.
I
was
so glad to see the 2lbs gone this morning. WATER {glug}
truly
helps
flush
the extra salt from our bodies.

My game plan at this point is to continue with following
the
FT
except
on
days that I eat out. This is part of my WOL so I need to
find
a
way
to
properly incorporate it into my eating. So...I will eat
low
and
make
better
choices when I eat out. I think what I was doing wrong
since
September
is
eating my target & Activity points each day plus eating
out
2-3
nights
a
week. I'm not very good at calculating points when I
don't
know
exactly
how
they made a dish so I probably under estimated my points
those
meal.
Truth
be told, I probably ate my Flexpoints a few times over
those
weeks.
So
now I
am back to eating low to bank for the times that I eat
out.
This
is
how I
was doing it last summer at my mothers house and it
worked.
So
far
it
is
working again.

Inches: 2.75" (total)

THTP wk 7: 4 Curves sessions

good for you, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
Thanks Lee. I am planning on doing that except for when I get the
Applebee's
LF meals. They are low enough in points that I can eat the whole meal.
Tonight will be Subway. Thank god I can order a 6" sub and not worry about
a
ton of points.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I think you have made a great start. Let us know how it works. I admit
I
do eat out a bunch and the reason it works for me is that I try and keep
the
same eating pattern. When I want something that comes in a huge portion
I
just get a to go box and put half in to start with so I am not tempted
to
"just finish it off"... Good luck, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
Well I bit the bullet today and rejoined WW. Mom gave me a American
Express
gift card for xmas so that's how I am going to spend a chunk of it. I
also
bought an exercise tape for days that I can't make it to curves plus a
digital food scale to replace my 20 year old manual scale. Maybe that
will
help things along.

Based on my preliminary discussion with the leader my eating out is
the
culprit. I need to treat those meals as replacement meals for those
had
at
home. No splurging or over sized portions. I think this summer when we
went
out I did better at portion control and choices because my mother and
husband were always there keeping my honest. Now I eat out with my
overweight neighbor so it is a lot harder to stay OP. I will have to
work
on that one.

The other thing I have been doing wrong is falling into the rut of
having
the same things for breakfast and lunch. So I bought waffles and
another
brand of cereal for breakfast. For lunches this week it will be
different
everyday as I bought 5 Lean Cuisines that were on sale. Maybe I'll add
sandwiches in every once in a while. I'll add a salad or celery/carrot
sticks to the meal plus jello or yogart for dessert. Dinner has always
been
different each night so that's not a problem. I'm going to give the
Flex
plan another try before switching back to the old plan. Maybe I'll
make
it
a
point to have my leader check my journals each week I don't have a
loss.
Maybe having more eyes watch what I am doing helped this summer. Who
knows
any more.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I don't think the choice of journals would be overly difficult
either,
since they
have the older type journaling available for other countries. WW
website
does
need to get with things a bit. It's good, but could be soooooo much
better. I
have never seen the paper journals handed out at the meetings. What
is
different
about them? I would definitely be interested in hearing the
differences.
Isn't
it funny how people's minds work so differently? I've found that
with
the
flexpoint system I actually eat less than I did when using the old
system.
And
eating less is not necessarily a good thing! I know it is something
in
my
head
about the possibility of overeating - yet the math works out to
pretty
much the
same. Oh well, whatever works for us individually is what we should
stick
with.
G

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:17:38 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I was actually wondering about that and when I was looking at the
journal
one thing DH pointed out is that the on line journal is even
different
from
the paper one they give us at meetings. I hated depriving myself
to
get
the
extra I always felt anxiety about saving enough points and I
worried
my
treat wouldn't work out so I would get gypped. Now with the flex
points
I
can ignore them for the most part and if there are any left at the
end
of
the week I can have a treat. I think it is a shame that WW does
not
support
the other journal as well, but then the site could be so much more
than
it
is. I think they are in great need of a designer that could help
with
formatting and speech compatibility for sure. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm still thinking the flex is difficult to work around
maintenance -
then
again,
it's probably just something in my own head. Losing and knowing
that
there are
extra points available is one thing ... trying to hold tight and
having
them
flaunting themselves in my face is something else entirely. G
I
think
I'm the
sort that has to have the incentive to *work* - hence the banking
system
works
better for me. If I WANT to indulge, then I know I HAVE to get
off
my
butt and
work for it - balance things out, give and take so to speak. I
don't
mind using
the old program at all, I only wish the online website would
allow
us
to
have a
choice of which journal to use, instead of forcing the issue.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

isn't it odd how different things work for different people,
flex
works
even
better than the old one and that one worked fine, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
That sounds like a very reasonable plan, Laura. You're also
incorporating
dining
out into the plan, which sounds to me like maybe this is just
an
adjusted
form of
the Wendy plan. So far I haven't really been able to get the
flex
plan
to
work
very well for me ... probably just something in my head that
is
refusing
to kick
in. I tend to horde points on the flex plan, and eat too
little.
Having
that
huge number looking at me all the time is just plain scary -
doesn't
work
for me.
So back to the old program for me also. I'm wishing you lots
of
success!

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:13:04 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

It is a 2 week program. I'm going to do it for a while longer
but
not
as
low
as 20 points. I want to ease back to the old mininum of 24
and
switch
to
the
old plan. I tend to eat low by nature on days that I am OP.
yesterday
was
18
and that was only because I had a bag of soy crisps before
bed.
BUT
this
is
only to BANK for the days that I eat out. Tonight (weather
permitting)
is
Chinese buffet night. I need to have enough points to cover
that.
Eating
low
on all of the other days is what worked this summer. We'll
see
how
long
this
works for but it is worth a shot. The regular Flex plan does
not
seem
to
fit
my life style.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Way to go on the fantastic loss this week! Sure looks like
the
fast
track
plan
worked very well for you. How long are you planning on
sticking
with
it?
I
thought it was only a 2 week program, but I really didn't
look
overly
close at it.
My fear would be that if you stay on it for much longer
than
that,
you
could
possibly mess up your metabolism - if you are in a range
where
your
body
requires
many more calories. Then again, what do I know! LOL

Glad you are back on the losing end of the game, Laura.
And
good
luck
this week!

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:41:24 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

RAFL wk 3: down 2.5 to 212.5. Total loss to date is 33.1
lbs.

I decided to try the Fast Track plan this week. I started
the
week
out
good
and dropped the 2.5 lbs by Tuesday. Then the scale did not
want
to
move
anymore. I did see 211.5 one day this week but the daily
fluctuations
landed
on 212.5. I OD'd on French Onion soup Friday night at Ruby
Tuesdays.
One
bowl did have the cheese & bread but the second one did
not.
It
has
been
so
cold and windy here lately with no sign of it letting up
so
I
wanted
soup
to
warm me up. I had their soup and salad bar for dinner. I
loaded
up
on
veggies and added 1/4 cupfuls of cheese, ham and cottage
cheese
for
protein.
For dessert I had some fruit and a little bit of chocolate
pudding.
Wouldn't
you know it yesterday morning I was up 2lbs from the salt
in
the
soup.
I
was
so glad to see the 2lbs gone this morning. WATER {glug}
truly
helps
flush
the extra salt from our bodies.

My game plan at this point is to continue with following
the
FT
except
on
days that I eat out. This is part of my WOL so I need to
find
a
way
to
properly incorporate it into my eating. So...I will eat
low
and
make
better
choices when I eat out. I think what I was doing wrong
since
September
is
eating my target & Activity points each day plus eating
out
2-3
nights
a
week. I'm not very good at calculating points when I don't
know
exactly
how
they made a dish so I probably under estimated my points
those
meal.
Truth
be told, I probably ate my Flexpoints a few times over
those
weeks.
So
now I
am back to eating low to bank for the times that I eat
out.
This
is
how I
was doing it last summer at my mothers house and it
worked.
So
far
it
is
working again.

Inches: 2.75" (total)

THTP wk 7: 4 Curves sessions

It might be more a case of accountability. Now that money is involved I am
more serious about staying OP than I was last week. Let's hope it stays this
way.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I find it odd as I am not generally a joiner but for whatever reason I
need
the meetings and hope to go every week even after I get to goal, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
I am thinking that I am that kind of person too. I did the best back in
May
and June when I attended meetings. Being away for the summer worked out
okay. It was coming home after 2.5 months. I just could not get the hang
of
FlexPoints and how to deal with my eating out. I think Hubby got lax
about
it too.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I too must have the meeting, Lee
Lesanne wrote in message
...
You are going to be doing great, says she who cannot do it without
her
meeting . .. ..

"Laura" wrote in message
...
Well I bit the bullet today and rejoined WW. Mom gave me a
American
Express
gift card for xmas so that's how I am going to spend a chunk of
it.
I
also
bought an exercise tape for days that I can't make it to curves
plus
a
digital food scale to replace my 20 year old manual scale. Maybe
that
will
help things along.

Based on my preliminary discussion with the leader my eating out
is
the
culprit. I need to treat those meals as replacement meals for
those
had
at
home. No splurging or over sized portions. I think this summer
when
we
went
out I did better at portion control and choices because my mother
and
husband were always there keeping my honest. Now I eat out with my
overweight neighbor so it is a lot harder to stay OP. I will
have
to
work
on that one.

The other thing I have been doing wrong is falling into the rut of
having
the same things for breakfast and lunch. So I bought waffles and
another
brand of cereal for breakfast. For lunches this week it will be
different
everyday as I bought 5 Lean Cuisines that were on sale. Maybe I'll
add
sandwiches in every once in a while. I'll add a salad or
celery/carrot
sticks to the meal plus jello or yogart for dessert. Dinner has
always
been
different each night so that's not a problem. I'm going to give
the
Flex
plan another try before switching back to the old plan. Maybe I'll
make
it
a
point to have my leader check my journals each week I don't have a
loss.
Maybe having more eyes watch what I am doing helped this summer.
Who
knows
any more.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I don't think the choice of journals would be overly difficult
either,
since they
have the older type journaling available for other countries.
WW
website
does
need to get with things a bit. It's good, but could be soooooo
much
better. I
have never seen the paper journals handed out at the meetings.
What
is
different
about them? I would definitely be interested in hearing the
differences.
Isn't
it funny how people's minds work so differently? I've found
that
with
the
flexpoint system I actually eat less than I did when using the
old
system.
And
eating less is not necessarily a good thing! I know it is
something
in
my
head
about the possibility of overeating - yet the math works out to
pretty
much the
same. Oh well, whatever works for us individually is what we
should
stick
with.
G

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:17:38 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I was actually wondering about that and when I was looking at
the
journal
one thing DH pointed out is that the on line journal is even
different
from
the paper one they give us at meetings. I hated depriving
myself
to
get
the
extra I always felt anxiety about saving enough points and I
worried
my
treat wouldn't work out so I would get gypped. Now with the
flex
points
I
can ignore them for the most part and if there are any left at
the
end
of
the week I can have a treat. I think it is a shame that WW
does
not
support
the other journal as well, but then the site could be so much
more
than
it
is. I think they are in great need of a designer that could
help
with
formatting and speech compatibility for sure. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm still thinking the flex is difficult to work around
maintenance -
then
again,
it's probably just something in my own head. Losing and
knowing
that
there are
extra points available is one thing ... trying to hold tight
and
having
them
flaunting themselves in my face is something else entirely.
G
I
think
I'm the
sort that has to have the incentive to *work* - hence the
banking
system
works
better for me. If I WANT to indulge, then I know I HAVE to
get
off
my
butt and
work for it - balance things out, give and take so to speak.
I
don't
mind using
the old program at all, I only wish the online website would
allow
us
to
have a
choice of which journal to use, instead of forcing the issue.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

isn't it odd how different things work for different people,
flex
works
even
better than the old one and that one worked fine, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
That sounds like a very reasonable plan, Laura. You're
also
incorporating
dining
out into the plan, which sounds to me like maybe this is
just
an
adjusted
form of
the Wendy plan. So far I haven't really been able to get
the
flex
plan
to
work
very well for me ... probably just something in my head
that
is
refusing
to kick
in. I tend to horde points on the flex plan, and eat too
little.
Having
that
huge number looking at me all the time is just plain
scary -
doesn't
work
for me.
So back to the old program for me also. I'm wishing you
lots
of
success!

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:13:04 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

It is a 2 week program. I'm going to do it for a while
longer
but
not
as
low
as 20 points. I want to ease back to the old mininum of
24
and
switch
to
the
old plan. I tend to eat low by nature on days that I am
OP.
yesterday
was
18
and that was only because I had a bag of soy crisps
before
bed.
BUT
this
is
only to BANK for the days that I eat out. Tonight
(weather
permitting)
is
Chinese buffet night. I need to have enough points to
cover
that.
Eating
low
on all of the other days is what worked this summer.
We'll
see
how
long
this
works for but it is worth a shot. The regular Flex plan
does
not
seem
to
fit
my life style.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Way to go on the fantastic loss this week! Sure looks
like
the
fast
track
plan
worked very well for you. How long are you planning on
sticking
with
it?
I
thought it was only a 2 week program, but I really
didn't
look
overly
close at it.
My fear would be that if you stay on it for much longer
than
that,
you
could
possibly mess up your metabolism - if you are in a
range
where
your
body
requires
many more calories. Then again, what do I know! LOL

Glad you are back on the losing end of the game, Laura.
And
good
luck
this week!

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:41:24 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

RAFL wk 3: down 2.5 to 212.5. Total loss to date is
33.1
lbs.

I decided to try the Fast Track plan this week. I
started
the
week
out
good
and dropped the 2.5 lbs by Tuesday. Then the scale did
not
want
to
move
anymore. I did see 211.5 one day this week but the
daily
fluctuations
landed
on 212.5. I OD'd on French Onion soup Friday night at
Ruby
Tuesdays.
One
bowl did have the cheese & bread but the second one
did
not.
It
has
been
so
cold and windy here lately with no sign of it letting
up
so
I
wanted
soup
to
warm me up. I had their soup and salad bar for dinner.
I
loaded
up
on
veggies and added 1/4 cupfuls of cheese, ham and
cottage
cheese
for
protein.
For dessert I had some fruit and a little bit of
chocolate
pudding.
Wouldn't
you know it yesterday morning I was up 2lbs from the
salt
in
the
soup.
I
was
so glad to see the 2lbs gone this morning. WATER
{glug}
truly
helps
flush
the extra salt from our bodies.

My game plan at this point is to continue with
following
the
FT
except
on
days that I eat out. This is part of my WOL so I need
to
find
a
way
to
properly incorporate it into my eating. So...I will
eat
low
and
make
better
choices when I eat out. I think what I was doing wrong
since
September
is
eating my target & Activity points each day plus
eating
out
2-3
nights
a
week. I'm not very good at calculating points when I
don't
know
exactly
how
they made a dish so I probably under estimated my
points
those
meal.
Truth
be told, I probably ate my Flexpoints a few times over
those
weeks.
So
now I
am back to eating low to bank for the times that I eat
out.
This
is
how I
was doing it last summer at my mothers house and it
worked.
So
far
it
is
working again.

Inches: 2.75" (total)

THTP wk 7: 4 Curves sessions

the best part is you are finding what works for you and that is a wonderful
thing, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
It might be more a case of accountability. Now that money is involved I am
more serious about staying OP than I was last week. Let's hope it stays
this
way.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I find it odd as I am not generally a joiner but for whatever reason I
need
the meetings and hope to go every week even after I get to goal, Lee
Laura wrote in message
...
I am thinking that I am that kind of person too. I did the best back
in
May
and June when I attended meetings. Being away for the summer worked
out
okay. It was coming home after 2.5 months. I just could not get the
hang
of
FlexPoints and how to deal with my eating out. I think Hubby got lax
about
it too.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I too must have the meeting, Lee
Lesanne wrote in message
...
You are going to be doing great, says she who cannot do it without
her
meeting . .. ..

"Laura" wrote in message

...
Well I bit the bullet today and rejoined WW. Mom gave me a
American
Express
gift card for xmas so that's how I am going to spend a chunk of
it.
I
also
bought an exercise tape for days that I can't make it to curves
plus
a
digital food scale to replace my 20 year old manual scale. Maybe
that
will
help things along.

Based on my preliminary discussion with the leader my eating out
is
the
culprit. I need to treat those meals as replacement meals for
those
had
at
home. No splurging or over sized portions. I think this summer
when
we
went
out I did better at portion control and choices because my
mother
and
husband were always there keeping my honest. Now I eat out with
my
overweight neighbor so it is a lot harder to stay OP. I will
have
to
work
on that one.

The other thing I have been doing wrong is falling into the rut
of
having
the same things for breakfast and lunch. So I bought waffles and
another
brand of cereal for breakfast. For lunches this week it will be
different
everyday as I bought 5 Lean Cuisines that were on sale. Maybe
I'll
add
sandwiches in every once in a while. I'll add a salad or
celery/carrot
sticks to the meal plus jello or yogart for dessert. Dinner has
always
been
different each night so that's not a problem. I'm going to give
the
Flex
plan another try before switching back to the old plan. Maybe
I'll
make
it
a
point to have my leader check my journals each week I don't have
a
loss.
Maybe having more eyes watch what I am doing helped this summer.
Who
knows
any more.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I don't think the choice of journals would be overly difficult
either,
since they
have the older type journaling available for other countries.
WW
website
does
need to get with things a bit. It's good, but could be
soooooo
much
better. I
have never seen the paper journals handed out at the meetings.
What
is
different
about them? I would definitely be interested in hearing the
differences.
Isn't
it funny how people's minds work so differently? I've found
that
with
the
flexpoint system I actually eat less than I did when using the
old
system.
And
eating less is not necessarily a good thing! I know it is
something
in
my
head
about the possibility of overeating - yet the math works out
to
pretty
much the
same. Oh well, whatever works for us individually is what we
should
stick
with.
G

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:17:38 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I was actually wondering about that and when I was looking at
the
journal
one thing DH pointed out is that the on line journal is even
different
from
the paper one they give us at meetings. I hated depriving
myself
to
get
the
extra I always felt anxiety about saving enough points and I
worried
my
treat wouldn't work out so I would get gypped. Now with the
flex
points
I
can ignore them for the most part and if there are any left
at
the
end
of
the week I can have a treat. I think it is a shame that WW
does
not
support
the other journal as well, but then the site could be so much
more
than
it
is. I think they are in great need of a designer that could
help
with
formatting and speech compatibility for sure. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm still thinking the flex is difficult to work around
maintenance -
then
again,
it's probably just something in my own head. Losing and
knowing
that
there are
extra points available is one thing ... trying to hold
tight
and
having
them
flaunting themselves in my face is something else entirely.
G
I
think
I'm the
sort that has to have the incentive to *work* - hence the
banking
system
works
better for me. If I WANT to indulge, then I know I HAVE to
get
off
my
butt and
work for it - balance things out, give and take so to
speak.
I
don't
mind using
the old program at all, I only wish the online website
would
allow
us
to
have a
choice of which journal to use, instead of forcing the
issue.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

isn't it odd how different things work for different
people,
flex
works
even
better than the old one and that one worked fine, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
That sounds like a very reasonable plan, Laura. You're
also
incorporating
dining
out into the plan, which sounds to me like maybe this is
just
an
adjusted
form of
the Wendy plan. So far I haven't really been able to
get
the
flex
plan
to
work
very well for me ... probably just something in my head
that
is
refusing
to kick
in. I tend to horde points on the flex plan, and eat
too
little.
Having
that
huge number looking at me all the time is just plain
scary -
doesn't
work
for me.
So back to the old program for me also. I'm wishing you
lots
of
success!

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:13:04 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

It is a 2 week program. I'm going to do it for a while
longer
but
not
as
low
as 20 points. I want to ease back to the old mininum of
24
and
switch
to
the
old plan. I tend to eat low by nature on days that I am
OP.
yesterday
was
18
and that was only because I had a bag of soy crisps
before
bed.
BUT
this
is
only to BANK for the days that I eat out. Tonight
(weather
permitting)
is
Chinese buffet night. I need to have enough points to
cover
that.
Eating
low
on all of the other days is what worked this summer.
We'll
see
how
long
this
works for but it is worth a shot. The regular Flex plan
does
not
seem
to
fit
my life style.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Way to go on the fantastic loss this week! Sure
looks
like
the
fast
track
plan
worked very well for you. How long are you planning
on
sticking
with
it?
I
thought it was only a 2 week program, but I really
didn't
look
overly
close at it.
My fear would be that if you stay on it for much
longer
than
that,
you
could
possibly mess up your metabolism - if you are in a
range
where
your
body
requires
many more calories. Then again, what do I know! LOL

Glad you are back on the losing end of the game,
Laura.
And
good
luck
this week!

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:41:24 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

RAFL wk 3: down 2.5 to 212.5. Total loss to date is
33.1
lbs.

I decided to try the Fast Track plan this week. I
started
the
week
out
good
and dropped the 2.5 lbs by Tuesday. Then the scale
did
not
want
to
move
anymore. I did see 211.5 one day this week but the
daily
fluctuations
landed
on 212.5. I OD'd on French Onion soup Friday night
at
Ruby
Tuesdays.
One
bowl did have the cheese & bread but the second one
did
not.
It
has
been
so
cold and windy here lately with no sign of it
letting
up
so
I
wanted
soup
to
warm me up. I had their soup and salad bar for
dinner.
I
loaded
up
on
veggies and added 1/4 cupfuls of cheese, ham and
cottage
cheese
for
protein.
For dessert I had some fruit and a little bit of
chocolate
pudding.
Wouldn't
you know it yesterday morning I was up 2lbs from the
salt
in
the
soup.
I
was
so glad to see the 2lbs gone this morning. WATER
{glug}
truly
helps
flush
the extra salt from our bodies.

My game plan at this point is to continue with
following
the
FT
except
on
days that I eat out. This is part of my WOL so I
need
to
find
a
way
to
properly incorporate it into my eating. So...I will
eat
low
and
make
better
choices when I eat out. I think what I was doing
wrong
since
September
is
eating my target & Activity points each day plus
eating
out
2-3
nights
a
week. I'm not very good at calculating points when I
don't
know
exactly
how
they made a dish so I probably under estimated my
points
those
meal.
Truth
be told, I probably ate my Flexpoints a few times
over
those
weeks.
So
now I
am back to eating low to bank for the times that I
eat
out.
This
is
how I
was doing it last summer at my mothers house and it
worked.
So
far
it
is
working again.

Inches: 2.75" (total)

THTP wk 7: 4 Curves sessions

It certainly can be a guessing game when we hit a stall for a lengthy period of
time. Sounds like you have a good plan of attack in place, and maybe officially
rejoining will get you back in step. You may have been doing something as easily
as overestimating portions or guessing at those *out* meals - very easy to do but
can put us out of sync. I never did vary breakfast or lunch very much - kind of
went in spurts. I'd buy a box of cereal, eat it til it's gone then move on to
something different. Have you thought about moving away from the heavier carb
breakfasts, maybe? I notice you said you bought a different cereal and waffles
.... what about making some eggs or fruit for a change of pace? And do be careful
with those quickie boxed lunches ... lots of sodium there (if it affects you) ...
remember to push that water. G

Here's hoping that a loss will greet you this next week!

Joyce

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:05:37 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

Well I bit the bullet today and rejoined WW. Mom gave me a American Express
gift card for xmas so that's how I am going to spend a chunk of it. I also
bought an exercise tape for days that I can't make it to curves plus a
digital food scale to replace my 20 year old manual scale. Maybe that will
help things along.

Based on my preliminary discussion with the leader my eating out is the
culprit. I need to treat those meals as replacement meals for those had at
home. No splurging or over sized portions. I think this summer when we went
out I did better at portion control and choices because my mother and
husband were always there keeping my honest. Now I eat out with my
overweight neighbor so it is a lot harder to stay OP. I will have to work
on that one.

The other thing I have been doing wrong is falling into the rut of having
the same things for breakfast and lunch. So I bought waffles and another
brand of cereal for breakfast. For lunches this week it will be different
everyday as I bought 5 Lean Cuisines that were on sale. Maybe I'll add
sandwiches in every once in a while. I'll add a salad or celery/carrot
sticks to the meal plus jello or yogart for dessert. Dinner has always been
different each night so that's not a problem. I'm going to give the Flex
plan another try before switching back to the old plan. Maybe I'll make it a
point to have my leader check my journals each week I don't have a loss.
Maybe having more eyes watch what I am doing helped this summer. Who knows
any more.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I don't think the choice of journals would be overly difficult either,
since they
have the older type journaling available for other countries. WW website
does
need to get with things a bit. It's good, but could be soooooo much
better. I
have never seen the paper journals handed out at the meetings. What is
different
about them? I would definitely be interested in hearing the differences.
Isn't
it funny how people's minds work so differently? I've found that with the
flexpoint system I actually eat less than I did when using the old system.
And
eating less is not necessarily a good thing! I know it is something in my
head
about the possibility of overeating - yet the math works out to pretty
much the
same. Oh well, whatever works for us individually is what we should stick
with.
G

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:17:38 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I was actually wondering about that and when I was looking at the journal
one thing DH pointed out is that the on line journal is even different
from
the paper one they give us at meetings. I hated depriving myself to get
the
extra I always felt anxiety about saving enough points and I worried my
treat wouldn't work out so I would get gypped. Now with the flex points
I
can ignore them for the most part and if there are any left at the end of
the week I can have a treat. I think it is a shame that WW does not
support
the other journal as well, but then the site could be so much more than
it
is. I think they are in great need of a designer that could help with
formatting and speech compatibility for sure. Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
I'm still thinking the flex is difficult to work around maintenance -
then
again,
it's probably just something in my own head. Losing and knowing that
there are
extra points available is one thing ... trying to hold tight and having
them
flaunting themselves in my face is something else entirely. G I
think
I'm the
sort that has to have the incentive to *work* - hence the banking
system
works
better for me. If I WANT to indulge, then I know I HAVE to get off my
butt and
work for it - balance things out, give and take so to speak. I don't
mind using
the old program at all, I only wish the online website would allow us
to
have a
choice of which journal to use, instead of forcing the issue.

Joyce

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

isn't it odd how different things work for different people, flex
works
even
better than the old one and that one worked fine, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
That sounds like a very reasonable plan, Laura. You're also
incorporating
dining
out into the plan, which sounds to me like maybe this is just an
adjusted
form of
the Wendy plan. So far I haven't really been able to get the flex
plan
to
work
very well for me ... probably just something in my head that is
refusing
to kick
in. I tend to horde points on the flex plan, and eat too little.
Having
that
huge number looking at me all the time is just plain scary - doesn't
work
for me.
So back to the old program for me also. I'm wishing you lots of
success!

Joyce

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:13:04 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

It is a 2 week program. I'm going to do it for a while longer but
not
as
low
as 20 points. I want to ease back to the old mininum of 24 and
switch
to
the
old plan. I tend to eat low by nature on days that I am OP.
yesterday
was
18
and that was only because I had a bag of soy crisps before bed. BUT
this
is
only to BANK for the days that I eat out. Tonight (weather
permitting)
is
Chinese buffet night. I need to have enough points to cover that.
Eating
low
on all of the other days is what worked this summer. We'll see how
long
this
works for but it is worth a shot. The regular Flex plan does not
seem
to
fit
my life style.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Way to go on the fantastic loss this week! Sure looks like the
fast
track
plan
worked very well for you. How long are you planning on sticking
with
it?
I
thought it was only a 2 week program, but I really didn't look
overly
close at it.
My fear would be that if you stay on it for much longer than
that,
you
could
possibly mess up your metabolism - if you are in a range where
your
body
requires
many more calories. Then again, what do I know! LOL

Glad you are back on the losing end of the game, Laura. And good
luck
this week!

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:41:24 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

RAFL wk 3: down 2.5 to 212.5. Total loss to date is 33.1 lbs.

I decided to try the Fast Track plan this week. I started the
week
out
good
and dropped the 2.5 lbs by Tuesday. Then the scale did not want
to
move
anymore. I did see 211.5 one day this week but the daily
fluctuations
landed
on 212.5. I OD'd on French Onion soup Friday night at Ruby
Tuesdays.
One
bowl did have the cheese & bread but the second one did not. It
has
been
so
cold and windy here lately with no sign of it letting up so I
wanted
soup
to
warm me up. I had their soup and salad bar for dinner. I loaded
up
on
veggies and added 1/4 cupfuls of cheese, ham and cottage cheese
for
protein.
For dessert I had some fruit and a little bit of chocolate
pudding.
Wouldn't
you know it yesterday morning I was up 2lbs from the salt in the
soup.
I
was
so glad to see the 2lbs gone this morning. WATER {glug} truly
helps
flush
the extra salt from our bodies.

My game plan at this point is to continue with following the FT
except
on
days that I eat out. This is part of my WOL so I need to find a
way
to
properly incorporate it into my eating. So...I will eat low and
make
better
choices when I eat out. I think what I was doing wrong since
September
is
eating my target & Activity points each day plus eating out 2-3
nights
a
week. I'm not very good at calculating points when I don't know
exactly
how
they made a dish so I probably under estimated my points those
meal.
Truth
be told, I probably ate my Flexpoints a few times over those
weeks.
So
now I
am back to eating low to bank for the times that I eat out. This
is
how I
was doing it last summer at my mothers house and it worked. So
far
it
is
working again.

Inches: 2.75" (total)

THTP wk 7: 4 Curves sessions