HHH & NYNY updates for next week

Fred wrote in message . ..
Thanks. We are still attempting to figure out what has changed.
AT&T's dsl is actually covad. I don't know about Earthlink.

Like you, I do not recall changing anything other then adding in
ZoneAlarm. Now that could be a hint but removing it did not fix the
problem. And I was able to use the dial-modem and get to the site.

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 01:53:01 GMT, "briezee" wrote:

I'm another one using Earthlink DSL. My work loads the page fine. My modem
in my computer is currently not hooked up, though I believe my folks' dialup
Earthlink works correctly. Angelfire was working fine for me until about 2
weeks ago, whenever I first starting posting in this group. I use Tiny as my
firewall. None my logfiles indicate any issues though.

-Brie

[snipped]

Greetings!

I just popped in here after searching for info related to your
problem. I have Earthlink DSL via Covad and can't get to Angelfire
websites, and I asked a contact who works for Earthlink to track the
problem down for me. Apparently, there was a problem with a scam
operation run from an Angelfire website which involved fraud against
Earthlink and its customers. Since Angelfire didn't shut the site
down in a timely fashion, Earthlink and Covad null-routed them,
meaning you cahn't get they-ah from he-ah [from Covad]. If you need to
see Angelfire sites in the meantime, Earthlink dialup will route there
just fine.

They're working on a solution [provided the offending site is down or
gets taken down], so be patient. I was looking for a link to the site
in question when I found your post.

You should be able to route to Angelfire from Earthlink and Covad now.

You are RIGHT. Thanks for the info both above on the reason and on
the fact it is now working.

On 13 Nov 2003 17:22:52 -0800, (Archmage) wrote:

You should be able to route to Angelfire from Earthlink and Covad now.

Wow, who knew that this little thing would produce such a fuss? I'm just
glad that it seems to have been resolved now!

I contemplated moving it to the space on my ISP's server, but they don't
allow forms and the challenge webforms get used daily so... *sigh*

Oh well, at least it seems to have been fixed for the moment!

Amberle3

Fred wrote:

You are RIGHT. Thanks for the info both above on the reason and on
the fact it is now working.

On 13 Nov 2003 17:22:52 -0800, (Archmage) wrote:

You should be able to route to Angelfire from Earthlink and Covad now.

--
Amberle3
249/222/220-minigoal/150?
Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03

Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm

New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm

Well, some of us found that we could access the site if we used a
dialup modem. Don't worry - hope you have a good time "off."

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:55:57 GMT, Amberle3
wrote:

Wow, who knew that this little thing would produce such a fuss? I'm just
glad that it seems to have been resolved now!

I contemplated moving it to the space on my ISP's server, but they don't
allow forms and the challenge webforms get used daily so... *sigh*

Oh well, at least it seems to have been fixed for the moment!

Amberle3

Fred wrote:

You are RIGHT. Thanks for the info both above on the reason and on
the fact it is now working.

On 13 Nov 2003 17:22:52 -0800, (Archmage) wrote:

You should be able to route to Angelfire from Earthlink and Covad now.

LOL! Silly boy! Somethings are better left alone. g I have a huge sheet with
all my passwords written down (forget way too many of them in the past). I've
noticed it's time to update and retype them - many I don't use anymore, some have
been changed numerous times. PIN numbers I've solved ... immediately change each
one, so now everything has the same number. The number means nothing to me, so
won't be anything that jumps out to anyone else either.

I finally did figure out why we can't remember all those passwords and new
information though. It's because we have too many old song lyrics filling up our
head and sucking up the space needed for useful information. g Actually, my
brother explained to my mom what her problem is (long term memory is good, short
term is non-existant)... her hard drive is workin' fine - it's the ram that is
depleted. We need more RAM!

Joyce


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:55:09 -0800, Fred wrote:

Oh, NO, I did change the password - the trick last week was to
remember what it was. Too many pin numbers, too many passwords, too
much information.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:05:47 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Well pooh! You probably could have emailed me to send you the address ... I
imagine they are all the same (as well as the password). I do know exactly where
the linksys manual is, have found it a dozen times over the last 24 hours. g I
can download a copy of the manual, but I want something printed ... and the dang
thing is about 100 pages. I still have to call, maybe later today?

Joyce


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:56:20 -0800, Fred wrote:

I know about manuals growing legs - my linksys manual is SOMEWHERE, I
guess. But, at least, I found a pdf version on the web. I needed the
address to get into the router not that that helped get to angelfire.


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:01:12 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Eh, I'm not adding any more phone calls to my list ... and definitely not any more
to tech support people - not this week anyway. I just now got off the phone with
the HP tech support *gurus* - trying to fix a problem on my new printer (which I
finally solved on my own after sitting on hold forever). Need to call computer
place to see if I can get a new hardcopy manual for the new puter ... seems the
one that came with it grew legs and walked away, never to be seen again. How it
did this in the matter of a few hours, I'll never know! Don't even get me started
on the billing department of the nursing home that keeps threatening to evict my
mom because of non-payment (tons of calls between that idjut and long term care
... trying to track down where the heck they applied all the checks they were
sent). Dentist, orthodontist, eye dr., storage facility ... are a few others that
immediately come to mind as *urgent*.

I just don't see it being the router, seems to many people are having the same
problem at the same time. Would be really odd for all our routers to go crazy at
the same time. My vote goes to angelfire and the lycos thingy. If I type in the
address for the home page that you posted last week, I can now at least access
that page - which I can't by dropping out the .lycos part. But adding it to the
address of the NYNY website still doesn't work.

Joyce


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:29:25 -0800, Fred wrote:

It may be the router but I really don't want to pull it out of the mix
as I'm sure XP will then blow off steam and want to detect new
hardware and all that may entail. Not that I've had too many problems
with plug and play but why bother. I may call at&t tech support again
or you could call your provider (G) or maybe even call linksys and ask
what about the router could cause the problem. But others are also
having the problem and I think they had other routers.

I can also get to the site by dialing in....

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:46:23 -0500, Joyce wrote:

sigh I'm using a Linksys router ... still not connecting. You're right though,
it's a great router and customer service is wonderful (and patient). grin

Joyce


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:06:50 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

Oh, you never installed the software to connect directly to the modem. Then
never mind. My laptop has the {verizon} dsl installed so that anytime we had
trouble with the connection I would connect myself directly to the modem
before calling support. In one case it was the router. Then we bought the
linksys and stopped having problems. Linksys are good routers. Since others
are having the same problem my guess it the problem is either on their end
or at Angelfire particularly if that is the only site you are having
problems with. Keep bugging them. You might check with angelfire to see if
they changed anything recently.

"Fred" wrote in message
news:m4q0rvcbqe0i5j5pqg9cdpkkkmfj38f97b@4ax .com...
No, I did not remove the router - I really did not want to "upset" XP
into detecting new hardware, etc, etc and so forth. Another person
did it though and still could not get to the site. But he had another
router brand. So, yes, it could be the router. I don't know enough
to know why it might screen out the resolution of that particular site
- but there may be a reason.

Is there something I can check in the router setup. They had me
change the mtu (was it?) and that did not fix it either. I have
turned on/off cookies, too.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:52:20 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Did you ever try connecting directly to the dsl modem to rule out your
router? BTW, disabling ZA does not typically help resolve problems. You
have
to uninstall the program to get rid of the ZoneVector (or something like
that) that could still cause problems.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
What is odd?? Is that one other person says he has at&t/covad and
zonealarm and a router and he can get to the site. I have cleared my
cache, etc but that does not seem to help. I will give it another
week and up my inquiry!

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:17:49 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Well, as I told the tech support, none of this is mission critical but
now I want to know WHY! If it does not resolve, I will bug them
more.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 04:59:16 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

I saw your post in that group AFTER I posted here. Sorry about that.
g

It looks like you are at least getting some people's attention on
this
issue. Keep bugging them and you'll get it fixed eventually.

"Fred" wrote in message
. ..
I have posted there and actually been in phone contact. I have
posted
a bit more lengthy below somewhere on Amberlee's lead but in
summary,
they believe that angelfire has possibly changed to angelfire.lycos
and the dns servers of AT&T-covad that do routing have not been
updated. That occurs periodically as a natural process. If/when
it
occurs next, things might work again. Qwest is my local phone
company.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 03:40:55 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Fred,

Who is the local telephone company that Covad is getting the DSL
from?
Someone on another board commented that they were having problems
with
their
dsl but it was thought to be due to something that their telco
Verizon
did
but would not admit to. Have you posted in the Worldnet dsl
newsgroup
yet?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks. We are still attempting to figure out what has changed.
AT&T's dsl is actually covad. I don't know about Earthlink.

Like you, I do not recall changing anything other then adding in
ZoneAlarm. Now that could be a hint but removing it did not fix
the
problem. And I was able to use the dial-modem and get to the
site.

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 01:53:01 GMT, "briezee"
wrote:

I'm another one using Earthlink DSL. My work loads the page
fine.
My
modem
in my computer is currently not hooked up, though I believe my
folks'
dialup
Earthlink works correctly. Angelfire was working fine for me
until
about
2
weeks ago, whenever I first starting posting in this group. I
use
Tiny
as
my
firewall. None my logfiles indicate any issues though.

-Brie




Joyce wrote in message
.. .
Hopefully you'll get this before you take off for Austin. I
did
some
experimenting on accessing the NYNY website - what I found is
really
bizarre! It
has absolutely nothing to do with my cache or cookies. I can
not
access
any
angelfire sites using my normal connection ... Earthlink ISP,
DSL
connection.
Trying to see if it was an earthlink problem, I connected to
the
internet
through
Access4Free using a dialup, got the website with no problem
at
all
...
making me
think it's an earthlink problem. Now I'm even more confused.
I
connected
once
again to the internet, once again using a dialup connection -
this
time
through
Earthlink. The website once again came up with no problems.
Evidentally
it has
nothing at all to do with Earthlink (on my end anyway), but
for
some
strange
reason will not load for a faster DSL connection. Go figure!

Joyce


On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:40:43 GMT, Amberle3

wrote:

Just a reminder that I'm off to Austin way too early on
Saturday
morning
and won't be returning home until Thursday night. I won't
have
a
laptop
with me, and I doubt I'll be able to access a computer while
I'm
there
to pick up messages so...

I'll try to update the website again Friday evening, and
then
that
will
be it until the following Friday. Sorry!

Also, is anyone still having trouble accessing the website?
If
you
are,
please send me an email and let me know what browser
(including
version)
and ISP you're using - make sure to put HHH or NYNY in the
subject
line
as my spam filter will definitely be on for while I'm away.
I'm
trying
to figure out why some people are having trouble accessing
the
website
and not others. If you're getting any specific errors
(other
than
just
not being able to connect) please also include that
information
in
the
email.

Thanks,

Amberle3

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:53:45 -0600, Joyce wrote:

LOL! Silly boy! Somethings are better left alone. g I have a huge sheet with
all my passwords written down (forget way too many of them in the past). I've
noticed it's time to update and retype them - many I don't use anymore, some have
been changed numerous times. PIN numbers I've solved ... immediately change each
one, so now everything has the same number. The number means nothing to me, so
won't be anything that jumps out to anyone else either.

I finally did figure out why we can't remember all those passwords and new
information though. It's because we have too many old song lyrics filling up our
head and sucking up the space needed for useful information. g Actually, my
brother explained to my mom what her problem is (long term memory is good, short
term is non-existant)... her hard drive is workin' fine - it's the ram that is
depleted. We need more RAM!

I like the analogy - a lot.

Joyce


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:55:09 -0800, Fred wrote:

Oh, NO, I did change the password - the trick last week was to
remember what it was. Too many pin numbers, too many passwords, too
much information.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:05:47 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Well pooh! You probably could have emailed me to send you the address ... I
imagine they are all the same (as well as the password). I do know exactly where
the linksys manual is, have found it a dozen times over the last 24 hours. g I
can download a copy of the manual, but I want something printed ... and the dang
thing is about 100 pages. I still have to call, maybe later today?

Joyce


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:56:20 -0800, Fred wrote:

I know about manuals growing legs - my linksys manual is SOMEWHERE, I
guess. But, at least, I found a pdf version on the web. I needed the
address to get into the router not that that helped get to angelfire.


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:01:12 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Eh, I'm not adding any more phone calls to my list ... and definitely not any more
to tech support people - not this week anyway. I just now got off the phone with
the HP tech support *gurus* - trying to fix a problem on my new printer (which I
finally solved on my own after sitting on hold forever). Need to call computer
place to see if I can get a new hardcopy manual for the new puter ... seems the
one that came with it grew legs and walked away, never to be seen again. How it
did this in the matter of a few hours, I'll never know! Don't even get me started
on the billing department of the nursing home that keeps threatening to evict my
mom because of non-payment (tons of calls between that idjut and long term care
... trying to track down where the heck they applied all the checks they were
sent). Dentist, orthodontist, eye dr., storage facility ... are a few others that
immediately come to mind as *urgent*.

I just don't see it being the router, seems to many people are having the same
problem at the same time. Would be really odd for all our routers to go crazy at
the same time. My vote goes to angelfire and the lycos thingy. If I type in the
address for the home page that you posted last week, I can now at least access
that page - which I can't by dropping out the .lycos part. But adding it to the
address of the NYNY website still doesn't work.

Joyce


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:29:25 -0800, Fred wrote:

It may be the router but I really don't want to pull it out of the mix
as I'm sure XP will then blow off steam and want to detect new
hardware and all that may entail. Not that I've had too many problems
with plug and play but why bother. I may call at&t tech support again
or you could call your provider (G) or maybe even call linksys and ask
what about the router could cause the problem. But others are also
having the problem and I think they had other routers.

I can also get to the site by dialing in....

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:46:23 -0500, Joyce wrote:

sigh I'm using a Linksys router ... still not connecting. You're right though,
it's a great router and customer service is wonderful (and patient). grin

Joyce


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:06:50 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

Oh, you never installed the software to connect directly to the modem. Then
never mind. My laptop has the {verizon} dsl installed so that anytime we had
trouble with the connection I would connect myself directly to the modem
before calling support. In one case it was the router. Then we bought the
linksys and stopped having problems. Linksys are good routers. Since others
are having the same problem my guess it the problem is either on their end
or at Angelfire particularly if that is the only site you are having
problems with. Keep bugging them. You might check with angelfire to see if
they changed anything recently.

"Fred" wrote in message
news:m4q0rvcbqe0i5j5pqg9cdpkkkmfj38f97b@4a x.com...
No, I did not remove the router - I really did not want to "upset" XP
into detecting new hardware, etc, etc and so forth. Another person
did it though and still could not get to the site. But he had another
router brand. So, yes, it could be the router. I don't know enough
to know why it might screen out the resolution of that particular site
- but there may be a reason.

Is there something I can check in the router setup. They had me
change the mtu (was it?) and that did not fix it either. I have
turned on/off cookies, too.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:52:20 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Did you ever try connecting directly to the dsl modem to rule out your
router? BTW, disabling ZA does not typically help resolve problems. You
have
to uninstall the program to get rid of the ZoneVector (or something like
that) that could still cause problems.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
What is odd?? Is that one other person says he has at&t/covad and
zonealarm and a router and he can get to the site. I have cleared my
cache, etc but that does not seem to help. I will give it another
week and up my inquiry!

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:17:49 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Well, as I told the tech support, none of this is mission critical but
now I want to know WHY! If it does not resolve, I will bug them
more.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 04:59:16 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

I saw your post in that group AFTER I posted here. Sorry about that.
g

It looks like you are at least getting some people's attention on
this
issue. Keep bugging them and you'll get it fixed eventually.

"Fred" wrote in message
. ..
I have posted there and actually been in phone contact. I have
posted
a bit more lengthy below somewhere on Amberlee's lead but in
summary,
they believe that angelfire has possibly changed to angelfire.lycos
and the dns servers of AT&T-covad that do routing have not been
updated. That occurs periodically as a natural process. If/when
it
occurs next, things might work again. Qwest is my local phone
company.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 03:40:55 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Fred,

Who is the local telephone company that Covad is getting the DSL
from?
Someone on another board commented that they were having problems
with
their
dsl but it was thought to be due to something that their telco
Verizon
did
but would not admit to. Have you posted in the Worldnet dsl
newsgroup
yet?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks. We are still attempting to figure out what has changed.
AT&T's dsl is actually covad. I don't know about Earthlink.

Like you, I do not recall changing anything other then adding in
ZoneAlarm. Now that could be a hint but removing it did not fix
the
problem. And I was able to use the dial-modem and get to the
site.

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 01:53:01 GMT, "briezee"
wrote:

I'm another one using Earthlink DSL. My work loads the page
fine.
My
modem
in my computer is currently not hooked up, though I believe my
folks'
dialup
Earthlink works correctly. Angelfire was working fine for me
until
about
2
weeks ago, whenever I first starting posting in this group. I
use
Tiny
as
my
firewall. None my logfiles indicate any issues though.

-Brie




Joyce wrote in message
.. .
Hopefully you'll get this before you take off for Austin. I
did
some
experimenting on accessing the NYNY website - what I found is
really
bizarre! It
has absolutely nothing to do with my cache or cookies. I can
not
access
any
angelfire sites using my normal connection ... Earthlink ISP,
DSL
connection.
Trying to see if it was an earthlink problem, I connected to
the
internet
through
Access4Free using a dialup, got the website with no problem
at
all
...
making me
think it's an earthlink problem. Now I'm even more confused.
I
connected
once
again to the internet, once again using a dialup connection -
this
time
through
Earthlink. The website once again came up with no problems.
Evidentally
it has
nothing at all to do with Earthlink (on my end anyway), but
for
some
strange
reason will not load for a faster DSL connection. Go figure!

Joyce


On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:40:43 GMT, Amberle3

wrote:

Just a reminder that I'm off to Austin way too early on
Saturday
morning
and won't be returning home until Thursday night. I won't
have
a
laptop
with me, and I doubt I'll be able to access a computer while
I'm
there
to pick up messages so...

I'll try to update the website again Friday evening, and
then
that
will
be it until the following Friday. Sorry!

Also, is anyone still having trouble accessing the website?
If
you
are,
please send me an email and let me know what browser
(including
version)
and ISP you're using - make sure to put HHH or NYNY in the
subject
line
as my spam filter will definitely be on for while I'm away.
I'm
trying
to figure out why some people are having trouble accessing
the
website
and not others. If you're getting any specific errors
(other
than
just
not being able to connect) please also include that
information
in
the
email.

Thanks,

Amberle3