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"Beyond Personal Responsibility" Food Disclosure
Clearly you've never eaten at a White Castle. Those 'sliders' are
always the same. You think that White Castle is a restaurant? Ah, sorry. I missed that nicety. You're quite right, of course. Chak I grew up around the corner from a White Castle. Funny to see others refer to them as sliders. Hey if constipated, instead of the sugar alchohols.. try a slider. |
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Idiots. Food Disclosure
jmk wrote:
On 6/7/2004 8:48 PM, Bob (this one) wrote: I promise that if this bill is enacted, restaurants that fall under its purview will dumb down further. They'll offer many fewer choices with many more sauces to make them seem different. Just like Ruby Tuesday? Exactly like Ruby Tuesday. Check out a busy, clunky web site. http://www.rubytuesday.com/ I did. I don't see that they are offering fewer choices as you claim above. Oh, is that law already in effect? There's currently no pressure to have all their foods analyzed. They're putting up whatever they want with no necessity for documentation. Undoubtedly, some employee did it all by calculation; no proof necessary. Not so if and when it becomes a law. Then the rules change and economic pressures build. Pastorio |
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Idiots. Food Disclosure
On 6/8/2004 8:52 PM, Bob (this one) wrote:
Oh, is that law already in effect? OK, P. I said, so all restaurants will be posting their info and have fewer menu choices "just like Ruby Tuesday." and yuou said, "exactly like Ruby Tuesday." When I repsonded that they did not appear to me to have fewer choices, you changed the criterira. Nice one, P. -- jmk in NC |
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Idiots. Food Disclosure
jmk wrote:
On 6/8/2004 8:52 PM, Bob (this one) wrote: Oh, is that law already in effect? OK, P. I said, so all restaurants will be posting their info and have fewer menu choices "just like Ruby Tuesday." and yuou said, "exactly like Ruby Tuesday." When I repsonded that they did not appear to me to have fewer choices, you changed the criterira. Nice one, P. Go back and read the post you replied to. It said clearly enough for even you to have absorbed it that these effects would be felt *after* the law was passed. That's when the expense of having all their foods analyzed would have a very significant effect on their bottom lines. Earlier in the thread, I even gave numbers for what that costs. You seem to have missed a lot of the discussion. Ruby Tuesday's menu posting is more show than reality. They post net carbs as though everyone's metabolic function is identical. They don't actually offer a real nutritional breakdown, just four numbers predicated against the same kind of foolishness the packaged food guys do - one order of chicken wings is *4* servings. Right. Just like in real life. It's a start, but not a particularly good one. Use your spell checker. Pastorio |
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Idiots. Food Disclosure
On 6/9/2004 12:22 PM, Bob (this one) wrote:
jmk wrote: On 6/8/2004 8:52 PM, Bob (this one) wrote: Oh, is that law already in effect? OK, P. I said, so all restaurants will be posting their info and have fewer menu choices "just like Ruby Tuesday." and yuou said, "exactly like Ruby Tuesday." When I repsonded that they did not appear to me to have fewer choices, you changed the criterira. Nice one, P. Go back and read the post you replied to. It said clearly enough for even you to have absorbed it that these effects would be felt *after* the law was passed. To which I said, just like Ruby Tuesday and you replied, exactly like Ruby Tuesday. -- jmk in NC |
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Idiots. Food Disclosure
jmk wrote:
On 6/9/2004 12:22 PM, Bob (this one) wrote: jmk wrote: On 6/8/2004 8:52 PM, Bob (this one) wrote: Oh, is that law already in effect? OK, P. I said, so all restaurants will be posting their info and have fewer menu choices "just like Ruby Tuesday." and yuou said, "exactly like Ruby Tuesday." When I repsonded that they did not appear to me to have fewer choices, you changed the criterira. Nice one, P. Go back and read the post you replied to. It said clearly enough for even you to have absorbed it that these effects would be felt *after* the law was passed. To which I said, just like Ruby Tuesday and you replied, exactly like Ruby Tuesday. I guess they don't have sarcasm on your planet. The point I made was that Ruby Tuesday wasn't an example of what would happen because they didn't do it properly. I demonstrated that Ruby Tuesday *didn't* conform to the regs in the bill. And that their "information" was subjective. And that it wasn't a proper nutritional analysis, in any case. And it whooshed right over your head... Pastorio |
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"Beyond Personal Responsibility"
Radley Balko wrote in message news:
This June, Time magazine and ABC News will host a three-day summit on obesity. ABC News anchor Peter Jennings, who last December anchored the prime time special "How to Get Fat Without Really Trying," will host. Judging by the scheduled program, the summit promises to be pep rally for media, nutrition activists, and policy makers -- all agitating for a panoply of government anti-obesity initiatives, including prohibiting junk food in school vending machines, federal funding for new bike trails and sidewalks, more demanding labels on foodstuffs, restrictive food marketing to children, and prodding the food industry into more "responsible" behavior. In other words, bringing government between you and your waistline. Certainly junk-food vending machines have no place in our schools, and indeed school lunch menus need to become healthier. Just because kids would rather eat tacos or pizza doesn't mean the schools should be providing that (taxpayer subsidized) at the expense of healthy meals. As far as labeling foods...I'm not sure what good it will do. Consumers have to actually READ the labels. How long have cigarette packs been required to carry warning labels? Lotsa good they've done. Alas, we've become very nutrition-illiterate in this country and there are demands that the government "do something about it". It's easier to pass a law than it is to modify behavior. |
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"Beyond Personal Responsibility"
"Bobby The D" wrote in message
om... Radley Balko wrote in message news: This June, Time magazine and ABC News will host a three-day summit on obesity. ABC News anchor Peter Jennings, who last December anchored the prime time special "How to Get Fat Without Really Trying," will host. Judging by the scheduled program, the summit promises to be pep rally for media, nutrition activists, and policy makers -- all agitating for a panoply of government anti-obesity initiatives, including prohibiting junk food in school vending machines, federal funding for new bike trails and sidewalks, more demanding labels on foodstuffs, restrictive food marketing to children, and prodding the food industry into more "responsible" behavior. In other words, bringing government between you and your waistline. Certainly junk-food vending machines have no place in our schools, and indeed school lunch menus need to become healthier. Just because kids would rather eat tacos or pizza doesn't mean the schools should be providing that (taxpayer subsidized) at the expense of healthy meals. You have a big (no pun intended) problem to overcome. Yes, school food programs are taxpayer subsidized. However, OVER 50% of school operating budgets are funded BY PROFIT MADE ON JUNK FOOD MACHINES. So, healthy food = tax increase. Are you in or are you gonna whine about it? |
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"Beyond Personal Responsibility"
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:20:54 GMT, Crazy ******* wrote:
"Bobby The D" wrote in message om... Radley Balko wrote in message news: This June, Time magazine and ABC News will host a three-day summit on obesity. ABC News anchor Peter Jennings, who last December anchored the prime time special "How to Get Fat Without Really Trying," will host. Judging by the scheduled program, the summit promises to be pep rally for media, nutrition activists, and policy makers -- all agitating for a panoply of government anti-obesity initiatives, including prohibiting junk food in school vending machines, federal funding for new bike trails and sidewalks, more demanding labels on foodstuffs, restrictive food marketing to children, and prodding the food industry into more "responsible" behavior. In other words, bringing government between you and your waistline. Certainly junk-food vending machines have no place in our schools, and indeed school lunch menus need to become healthier. Just because kids would rather eat tacos or pizza doesn't mean the schools should be providing that (taxpayer subsidized) at the expense of healthy meals. You have a big (no pun intended) problem to overcome. Yes, school food programs are taxpayer subsidized. However, OVER 50% of school operating budgets are funded BY PROFIT MADE ON JUNK FOOD MACHINES. So, healthy food = tax increase. Are you in or are you gonna whine about it? While the machines provide some money, I don't think that "50%" is realistic. For instance, my town pays 3-4 million a year to teach Senior High Schoolers at another town. I don't think that a junk food machine is going to provide 1.5-2 million a year. If schools make 50 cents an item, that's 3 million items a year. Let's assume that there are 900 students. That's about 3,300 items per year per student or 18 items a day per student every day they are in school. Even if the school makes $1/item, that's 9 items a day per student every day they are in school, and there's no where near 900 students in Senior High. -- Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply |
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