Looking for a good over-the-counter appetite suppressant

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Patricia Heil wrote:

"David Van" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a good, effective over-the-counter appetite
suppressant?

I use a delicious cup of organic coffee diluted with water with
cinnamon and vanilla added and some sweetener. (I use saccharin which
now has a clean bill of health) It's my best and most satisfying
appetite supressant and I have two cups daily which isn't too much
caffeine.

--
Diva
*****
The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman

David Van wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good, effective over-the-counter appetite
suppressant? I am not talking about a 'magic diet pill' or trim-spa or
fat burner or anything like that. Just something that helps suppress
feeling hungry. About 10 years ago I tried Dexitrim with some success,
but now they use a new 'natural' formula which doesn't work for me.

Dave

disentary. works a treat - you won't want to eat for weeks, and the
pounds will just fall off you.

if that doesn't appeal, how about some good old honest will power?

butch up!

--
Succorso

In article , Succorso
wrote:

David Van wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good, effective over-the-counter appetite
suppressant? I am not talking about a 'magic diet pill' or trim-spa or
fat burner or anything like that. Just something that helps suppress
feeling hungry. About 10 years ago I tried Dexitrim with some success,
but now they use a new 'natural' formula which doesn't work for me.

Dave

disentary. works

But only is you spell it correctly:

dysentery

--
Diva
*****
being a smartass

David Van wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good, effective over-the-counter appetite
suppressant? I am not talking about a 'magic diet pill' or trim-spa or
fat burner or anything like that. Just something that helps suppress
feeling hungry. About 10 years ago I tried Dexitrim with some success,
but now they use a new 'natural' formula which doesn't work for me.

Dave

one-2 tablespoons (120-240 calories) olive oil. (if you are unaccustomed to
the taste by itself, try to get to just swallow it anyway like a medicine
-it'll grow on you, and you'll be able to tell the taste of yummy vs yucky
after a while.)

It'll sustain you for a LONG time.

I find that low-carb/high fat meals tend to suppress appetite bigtime and
make it so I don't overeat on other types of foods. In fact, I often
forget to eat. If I didn't have children who I had to feed, I'd probably
be more oblivious to food's existence than I am already.

This coming from a former 250+ pound glutton, for whom the idea of
"forgetting food" was a laugh and a half a mere 2 years ago.

(David Van) wrote in message . com...
Can anyone recommend a good, effective over-the-counter appetite
suppressant? I am not talking about a 'magic diet pill' or trim-spa or
fat burner or anything like that. Just something that helps suppress
feeling hungry. About 10 years ago I tried Dexitrim with some success,
but now they use a new 'natural' formula which doesn't work for me.

Dave

The best appetite suppressant that I have found is LARGE doses of
chitosan/vitamin C. It is important to use the right ratio of vitamin
C. There is a lot of misinformation (pro and con) on chitosan, so you
might want to read these articles:

Chitosan Versus Xenical
Is chitosan just another scam, or does it really block a significant
amount of fat like Xenical? And if chitosan is a scam, why does Roche
have a patent on it?
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000023.htm

Chitosan Weight Loss Experiment Update
My second chitosan weight loss experiment shows that humans really can
achieve the same spectacular weight loss results as the animal
chitosan studies!
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000026.htm

Live Long and Prosper!
DrumLib

DrumLib's Health Research Review
http://www.drumlib.com
Vitamin Price Comparison
(including price based on standardized dose)
http://www.drumlib.com/bestprice.htm
Disclaimer
http://www.drumlib.com/terms.htm

In response to:

The best appetite suppressant that I have found is LARGE doses of
chitosan/vitamin C. It is important to use the right ratio of vitamin
C. There is a lot of misinformation (pro and con) on chitosan, so you
might want to read these articles:
[...]
Live Long and Prosper!
DrumLib

i would like to know what would be the exact ratio between chitosan
and vitamin c, if this is possible.

to answer a few comments about will power, from _my_ experience, it
eventually kicks in strongly as a motivating force once i start
getting results. i think that will power is also about changing
everything in your daily routine as you know it, thus definitely a
change of mindset: being focused at every moment and going one
meal/one workout at the time.

all the best to everyone and thanks for posting, this newsgroup is
very inspiring to me

victoria

"Victoria" wrote in message
om...
In response to:

The best appetite suppressant that I have found is LARGE doses of
chitosan/vitamin C. It is important to use the right ratio of vitamin
C. There is a lot of misinformation (pro and con) on chitosan, so you
might want to read these articles:
[...]
Live Long and Prosper!
DrumLib

i would like to know what would be the exact ratio between chitosan
and vitamin c, if this is possible.

to answer a few comments about will power, from _my_ experience, it
eventually kicks in strongly as a motivating force once i start
getting results. i think that will power is also about changing
everything in your daily routine as you know it, thus definitely a
change of mindset: being focused at every moment and going one
meal/one workout at the time.

all the best to everyone and thanks for posting, this newsgroup is
very inspiring to me

victoria


This is from his website....
http://www.drumlib.com/update/chitosan-vitamin-c.htm

"DrumLib" wrote in message
om...
(David Van) wrote in message
. com...
Can anyone recommend a good, effective over-the-counter appetite
suppressant? I am not talking about a 'magic diet pill' or trim-spa or
fat burner or anything like that. Just something that helps suppress
feeling hungry. About 10 years ago I tried Dexitrim with some success,
but now they use a new 'natural' formula which doesn't work for me.

Dave

The best appetite suppressant that I have found is LARGE doses of
chitosan/vitamin C. It is important to use the right ratio of vitamin
C. There is a lot of misinformation (pro and con) on chitosan, so you
might want to read these articles:

Chitosan Versus Xenical
Is chitosan just another scam, or does it really block a significant
amount of fat like Xenical? And if chitosan is a scam, why does Roche
have a patent on it?
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000023.htm

Chitosan Weight Loss Experiment Update
My second chitosan weight loss experiment shows that humans really can
achieve the same spectacular weight loss results as the animal
chitosan studies!
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000026.htm

Live Long and Prosper!
DrumLib

DrumLib's Health Research Review
http://www.drumlib.com
Vitamin Price Comparison
(including price based on standardized dose)
http://www.drumlib.com/bestprice.htm
Disclaimer
http://www.drumlib.com/terms.htm

On the other hand, the FTC has closed down chitosan programs promoting
weight loss because of false advertising.
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/10/slimdown.htm



For Release: October 19, 2004



"Slim Down Solution": Problem Solved



A federal district court has permanently barred a group of marketers of
bogus weight-loss products from making false claims about the effectiveness
of their products. In January 2003, the Federal Trade Commission charged
Slim Down Solution, LLC, Maderia Management, Inc., and several related
companies and individuals with misrepresenting that their product, "Slim
Down Solution" and its main ingredient, D-glucosamine, could block dietary
fat absorption and cause consumers to lose weight without changing their
diet, in violation of federal law. In May 2004, the U.S. District Court for
the Southern District of Florida granted summary judgment against the two
sets of defendants and entered an Order and Judgment for Permanent
Injunction and Other Equitable Relief against each of them. On October 6,
2004, the court entered a stipulated modification settling one remaining
complaint count and the monetary judgment against Slim Down Solution, LLC,
and its related entities and owners.



The Commission's complaint named Slim Down Solution, LLC, Slim Down
Solution, Inc., S.S.T. Management, Inc., The KARA Group, LLC, and their
principals, Ronald and Kathleen Alarcon (collectively, the SDS defendants);
and Maderia Management, Inc., Polyglucosamine, Ltd., and their principal,
Steven Pierce (collectively, the Maderia defendants).



The SDS defendants, based in West Palm Beach, Florida, advertised and sold
Slim Down Solution through nationally disseminated infomercials that aired
on cable television channels such as Bravo, Comedy Central, and PAX Cable,
and on the Internet at www.slimdownsolution.com. In addition, the SDS
defendants sold their product through a continuity program, automatically
shipping consumers Slim Down Solution and charging consumers' credit cards
or debiting their bank accounts monthly. The Maderia defendants, based in
Conroe, Texas, have manufactured and sold D-glucosamine products directly to
consumers and other resellers through their Internet sites, including
www.polyglucosamine.com. Resellers, in turn, promoted the products to
consumers under private labels such as "Fight the Fat," "Everslim," "Mini
Max," and "Slim Down Solution."



The court found that the defendants deceptively advertised Slim Down
Solution and D-glucosamine (both chitosan derivatives) as "fat trapper"
weight-loss products that could prevent consumers from absorbing up to 20
grams of dietary fat per dose. The court also found that the SDS defendants
falsely claimed that Slim Down Solution causes weight loss even if consumers
eat substantial amounts of foods high in fat, such as cheeseburgers, french
fries, and cheesecake.



The Permanent Injunction Orders entered by the court bar the defendants from
making these and other false claims, such as that Slim Down Solution or
D-glucosamine cause substantial weight loss without calorie reduction or
exercise. The orders also prohibit the defendants from claiming, without
competent and reliable scientific proof, that Slim Down Solution or
D-glucosamine cause any weight loss at all. The defendants further are
barred, in connection with the sale of any product, from making false or
unsubstantiated efficacy or safety claims, or misrepresenting the results of
any scientific test or study.



The court orders hold the defendants jointly and severally liable for more
than $30 million in consumer redress. To satisfy the $30 million judgment
partially, the court ordered the defendants and third parties holding the
defendants' assets to turn over to the FTC all assets traceable to Slim Down
Solution or D-glucosamine sales. Further, the orders bar the defendants from
selling their customer lists. The orders also impose on the defendants
compliance reporting and record-keeping requirements.



On December 16, 2003, individual defendants Ronald Alarcon and Kathleen
Alarcon filed for bankruptcy under Chapter 13 of the Bankruptcy Code. On May
14, 2004, the court in the FTC action found that the Commission's action
against the Alarcons was not stayed because of the bankruptcy proceeding and
granted the Commission's motion for summary judgment against them.



As part of the stipulated modification to the final order entered by the
Court on October 6, 2004, the SDS defendants will dismiss their bankruptcy
case and pay $725,000 in consumer redress. The Alarcons have put up their
Florida home as collateral for payment of this judgment. If the SDS
defendants have lied about their financial situation, or if they do not pay
the required amount by December 28, 2004, they will be liable for the entire
original judgment of $30,135,784. The modified order has an added provision
prohibiting the SDS defendants from enrolling consumers in a continuity
program or billing consumers without their express consent. The Maderia
defendants remain liable for the original judgment.



The Commission vote to approve the modified order was 5-0. The modified
order was entered by the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of
Florida on October 6, 2004.



The FTC has the following tips for consumers who are interested in
weight-loss products or programs:



Products and programs that promise quick and easy weight loss are bogus. To
lose weight, you have to lower your intake of calories and increase your
physical activity.

The faster you lose weight, the more likely you are to gain it back. Experts
recommend a goal of about a pound a week.

There are no miracle weight-loss products. Be skeptical of products and
programs that claim they can keep weight off permanently. Be skeptical about
exaggerated claims.

For more information on weight loss and diets, visit the FTC's Web site at:
www.ftc.gov/dietfit.



Copies of the modified order are available from the FTC's Web site at
http://www.ftc.gov and also from the FTC's Consumer Response Center, Room
130, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580. The FTC works
for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business
practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers
spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint in English or Spanish
(bilingual counselors are available to take complaints), or to get free
information on any of 150 consumer topics, call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP
(1-877-382-4357), or use the complaint form at http://www.ftc.gov. The FTC
enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related
complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to
hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and
abroad.



MEDIA CONTACT:



Brenda Mack

Office of Public Affairs

202-326-2182



STAFF CONTACT:



Heather Hippsley or Karen Muoio

Bureau of Consumer Protection

202-326-3285 or 202-326-2491



(FTC File No. X030017)

(Civ. No. 03-80051-CIV-PAINE/JOHNSON)



(http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/10/slimdown.htm)

Related Documents:



FTC v. Slim Down Solution, LLC, Slim Down Solution, Inc., S.S.T. Management,
Inc., The Kara Group, LLC, Ronald Alarcon, Kathleen Alarcon, Maderia
Management, Inc., Ployglucosamine, LTD., Stephen Pierce (D.C.S.D.Fla.) Case
No. 03-80051-DIV-PAINE/JOHNSON

In response to:

The best appetite suppressant that I have found is LARGE doses of
chitosan/vitamin C. It is important to use the right ratio of vitamin
C. There is a lot of misinformation (pro and con) on chitosan, so you
might want to read these articles:
[...]
Live Long and Prosper!
DrumLib

i would like to know what would be the exact ratio between chitosan
and vitamin c, if this is possible.

to answer a few comments about will power, from _my_ experience, it
eventually kicks in strongly as a motivating force once i start
getting results. i think that will power is also about changing
everything in your daily routine as you know it, thus definitely a
change of mindset: being focused at every moment and going one
meal/one workout at the time.

all the best to everyone and thanks for posting, this newsgroup is
very inspiring to me

victoria

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"Patricia Heil" wrote in
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"David Van" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a good, effective over-the-counter appetite
suppressant? I am not talking about a 'magic diet pill' or trim-spa
or fat burner or anything like that. Just something that helps
suppress feeling hungry. About 10 years ago I tried Dexitrim with
some success, but now they use a new 'natural' formula which doesn't
work for me.

Dave

No. Start an exercise program and make sure to include aerobics for
health and also because in my experience a good aerobic workout
suppresses appetite for at least an hour. Also change how you eat to
include more fiber, which is also filling and reduces LDL as well as
keeping you from feeling hungry longer.




I have to agree with patricia. The more fiber you consume the less hungry
you will feel. Lentils and split pea soups are great sources of fiber. I
have been taking L-Glutamine for a while now and my binge urges have all
but went away. I'm sure it's just another snake oil remedy and the urges
are gone due to the way I look at food now. But hey I'm not gonna
complain. I take L-Glutamine for speedy recover after hard workouts.
The craving suppression is either a beautifull side effect or in my mind.
I'll take it one way or another. Diets high in fiber have also been
stated to help people lose and maintain the loss of fat.

--
start 365
goal 200
maintaining 189-194 range
current 191
NOTE TO MYSELF

I have a family gathering this evening. So I am expecting my weight to
be 195-200 in the morning. Lots of salty/evil food I **WILL** be
partaking in. It will be water weight and will exit my body in a few
days of ?normal? eating again.
END OF NOTE TO MYSELF. ))

I love legumes and usually make a crockpot full, then have some every day.
It's done terrific things for my LDL and clinical studies back that up.