Lesanne's weigh in, and can I join RAFL late?

I resemble that remark (G)

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:05:49 -0600, Joyce wrote:

LOL! I do think that may be why hub likes demolition ... mistakes are very easily
hidden. g That and I tell him that it probably is every little boys dream to
grow up and still be allowed to play in a big sandbox.

Joyce

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:21:41 -0800, Fred wrote:

Demolition, accidently, is my specialty.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:37:37 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I figure that's why there are people in these professions ... they know what
they're doing, they get the job done quicker and usually correctly. Of course, it
helps me that my brother is an electrician ... and other family members are
plumbers (really the only two fields I refuse to mess around with). If I put my
thinking cap on, I realize my building connections are almost unlimited ...
cousins in masonry, architecture, building homes, hubby in excavating and concrete
... possibilities are endless. Not only can we put the houses up, we can tear 'em
down! G

Joyce

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 08:52:20 -0800, Fred wrote:

Sorry you electrical spark turned out to be an old dynamo. But it
sounds as if you got what you paid for - electrical work! (G)

I do remember when friend convinced me I did not want to do the
wiring for the kitchen remodel and to hire professionals. Half day
but what I did not know is that I would be charged the going RATE FOR
EACH OF THE TWO OF THEM!!!! Yikes. But they were fast and good -
ahem, at electricity work! (G)

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:52:11 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I had this running conversation with a friend about this before the guy
showed up. This is the first time I have needed an electrician, being kind
of handy myself. He pronounces it Good. He sounds all "cute" on the phone
so I am having these spinsterish private thoughts about how electricians are
good with shorts and all. So this fellow shows up, and he is about as wide
as he is tall, with the pants showing his behind crack whenever he bends...
He reeks of cigarette smoke, and is missing several teeth, right in the
front. The ones that are left are a cute grey color. He was, However, an
extremely good electrical person. Able to diagnose some of the puzzle
palace problems I have been having here, and fix some, and tell me how we
would fix the others. And totally reasonable. Did not give me a "charge"
in any way (oh she is bad this morning), but altogether a Good deal. I will
have to save those other fantasies for men with (pant pant) hair and knees.

"Fred" wrote in message
om...
Ah, the old, why bother connecting it syndrome. I helped a friend
RE-install her phone since they put in the plugs in her remodel and
even did wire it. But did not connect the wires in the basement to
anything. Does he pronounce it "goody" or is he just GOOD (G)

And how good was he?

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:13:12 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Yeah, we figured it out. They put it in, but never connected it to
anything. We did not have time to fix it, after we found it, so he is
coming back. This mans' name, I kid you not, is Mr Goode. Snort.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
You really do live an electrifying life! (gd&r)

So did you figure it out?

I spent the last 20 minutes using the Excel info that the nice folks
here gave me to create a spreadsheet of my WI's since starting.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:38:21 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

ah, sounds like a great day. The electrician and I wandered in the
attic
most of the afternoon trying to figure out why the plug near my tv in
my
bedroom does not work.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I was sublimely surprised. The forecast foretold clouds and
showers.
When I opened the door it clear with a neat crescent moon. The snow
from last week must have been melted by the subsequent rain. This
trail is very popular and when covered with snow, it gets compressed
into ice and then the trail becomes what I affectionately call a
vertical icerink! But it was sunny and ice-free. Nice day. Then
came home and washed the car which still had the grime from the
Sierra
in July and eastern Oregon in Aug plus all the snow grunge from the
last few months.

I usually take a series of vitamins after heavy exercise to
replenish
the water soluable ones that got sweated away.

We shall see if I can hold below 160. I should start using a home
weight in this, ahem, competition since my clothes are a
disadvantage
(go for it Brenda and Lee)...... But I just sucked down mango, and
frango (g). But two hours of strenuous UP should have earned some
of
that food.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:24:47 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I eat leftovers as well. That is what the daily multivitamin is
for


Kudos on the exercise, I wimped out with a mere 30 minutes of
toning
style
weights and exercycle circuits.

You got me this morning 157.5 here. I have noticed that my average
has
stayed right around there for 6 weeks now. HA. Maintenance
success.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sooner than I thought - this very morning on the home scale. And
packed and dressed for a cloudy but maybe dry hike. Aiming for
(depending on ice) 3,400 feet up over 4 miles. Eating breakfast
and
reading here before I head out. It was good and will be repeated
tonight since I made swordfish for more than the one night. The
other
stuff is also left over. I do wonder how much nutrients are lost
in
refrig but NOT microwaved broccoli and cauliflower.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:46:18 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Wow, keep up eating like that and you will be 157 soon. Yum
too.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I'm going to try getting it back down to 157 sometime. We
shall
see.
The swordfish is thawing. I already baked sweetpotatoes the
other
night and I have salad and broc/caul already steamed. I have
not
had
a ms meringue in 3 days but have had one skinny cow as evening
snacks.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:36:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Very good points, Lee! I have daughters also, and you are right - they did not
have to register for the military, definitely a double standard. And I did
totally forget about the cigarettes being legal at 18. This must be another one
of those areas where our age difference comes into play ... I could drink beer and
wine legally when I was 19. G The laws were changed a short time after though,
as I remember my younger brother was legal for a bit - then had it taken away.
The thing I remember though, is that by it being legalized - drinking was no
longer as enticing as when we thought we were getting away with something. G

I still want to see a *none of the above* choice in IL. LOL

Joyce

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:54:57 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

OK you asked for it. I think it is hideous that we live in a society that
differentiates between men and women in registering, should be both or
neither. As to the adult status, I think it would probably benefit us if
all of these things along with cigarettes and driving were all at the same
age. I think had I been able to drink when first voting I might have made
better choices, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
Ya know, I have been asking for that choice for years ... IL seems to not
understand. I am glad to hear that there is somewhere in the world that
thinks
like I do. g

And you don't want to get me started on our governments *thinking*. At 18
our
sons and daughters are considered legal adults. Encouraged and allowed
to vote
towards making decisions as to how they would like to see our government
run, yet
most pay next to nothing in taxes that these decisions affect. At 18 our
sons are
required to register with the armed forces, can be sent off to war, and
offer
their lives to serve their country. Yet ... (you knew this was coming)
... at the
same age they are considered too immature to be allowed to have an
alcoholic
beverage. I know my thinking may be backwards - but I often feel I am
missing
something in all of this.

Joyce

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:49:28 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

The state that has the best answer here in the states is Nevada, their
ballots carry "none of the above" as a choice, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...
It 's said to be 'more democratic' because everyone's voice will be
heard.
The problem is that people who don't want to vote will will make what
we
call protest votes, by voting for nonsensical or extremist parties.
we
don't vote for people but always for parties here and everyone has the
right
to start a political party.)

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
it is odd that it is obligatory but while I don't agree with it I can
see
why it is done, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...
Funny how these things differ... here the vote is completely and
strictly
anonymous. Back when we voted on paper, any voting document that
was
signed
or had your name or identity on (some elderly people thought you
should
sign
the documents, lol) was considered invalid. Now we vote
electronically
and
still very anonymously.
On the other hand, we are one of the 2 only countries in the world
where
voting is obligatory, and you get fined if you don't vote :-)
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/104.2/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
295.6/229.7/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds
RAFL 105.3/104.3/96 Kg
232/229.7/212 lbs
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Ah, the food element enters the electorate's decision-making.

Yes, our nonpartisan primary was dumped by the 9th Circuit Fed
courts.
Either we register for a party or cannot vote. The legislature
is
still trying to work on something including one where two top
candidates, party affiliation notwithstanding would be on the
general
ballot. So that there could be two Democrats or two Rep's on the
ballot rather than one of each. That would serve the parties
right.
I think in one or two gubernatorial primaries recently, there
would
have been no Republican candidate.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:28:17 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

not for me thanks, I make it a practice to never do any election
where
I
have to declare, makes my politician parents upset but I can't
justify
voting where someone else can know my party/preferences, and
besides
am
in
S.IL and would have to go a long way to sneak into someone's
livingroom,
and
they would probably have brownies or cake or cookies... Maybe I
will
rethink
this... Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
Nothing too shocking. Now cross the state line and "volt" in
Iowa!

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:53:28 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

assessing the competition??? Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
Ah, the old, why bother connecting it syndrome. I helped a
friend
RE-install her phone since they put in the plugs in her
remodel
and
even did wire it. But did not connect the wires in the
basement
to
anything. Does he pronounce it "goody" or is he just GOOD
(G)

And how good was he?

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:13:12 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yeah, we figured it out. They put it in, but never
connected
it
to
anything. We did not have time to fix it, after we found
it,
so
he
is
coming back. This mans' name, I kid you not, is Mr Goode.
Snort.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
You really do live an electrifying life! (gd&r)

So did you figure it out?

I spent the last 20 minutes using the Excel info that
the
nice
folks
here gave me to create a spreadsheet of my WI's since
starting.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:38:21 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

ah, sounds like a great day. The electrician and I
wandered
in
the
attic
most of the afternoon trying to figure out why the plug
near
my
tv
in
my
bedroom does not work.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I was sublimely surprised. The forecast foretold
clouds
and
showers.
When I opened the door it clear with a neat crescent
moon.
The
snow
from last week must have been melted by the
subsequent
rain.
This
trail is very popular and when covered with snow, it
gets
compressed
into ice and then the trail becomes what I
affectionately
call
a
vertical icerink! But it was sunny and ice-free.
Nice
day.
Then
came home and washed the car which still had the
grime
from
the
Sierra
in July and eastern Oregon in Aug plus all the snow
grunge
from
the
last few months.

I usually take a series of vitamins after heavy
exercise
to
replenish
the water soluable ones that got sweated away.

We shall see if I can hold below 160. I should start
using
a
home
weight in this, ahem, competition since my clothes
are a
disadvantage
(go for it Brenda and Lee)...... But I just sucked
down
mango,
and
frango (g). But two hours of strenuous UP should
have
earned
some
of
that food.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:24:47 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I eat leftovers as well. That is what the daily
multivitamin
is
for


Kudos on the exercise, I wimped out with a mere 30
minutes
of
toning
style
weights and exercycle circuits.

You got me this morning 157.5 here. I have noticed
that
my
average
has
stayed right around there for 6 weeks now. HA.
Maintenance
success.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sooner than I thought - this very morning on the
home
scale.
And
packed and dressed for a cloudy but maybe dry
hike.
Aiming

for
(depending on ice) 3,400 feet up over 4 miles.
Eating
breakfast
and
reading here before I head out. It was good and
will
be
repeated
tonight since I made swordfish for more than the
one
night.
The
other
stuff is also left over. I do wonder how much
nutrients
are
lost
in
refrig but NOT microwaved broccoli and
cauliflower.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:46:18 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Wow, keep up eating like that and you will be 157
soon.
Yum
too.

"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
I'm going to try getting it back down to 157
sometime.
We
shall
see.
The swordfish is thawing. I already baked
sweetpotatoes
the
other
night and I have salad and broc/caul already
steamed.
I
have
not
had
a ms meringue in 3 days but have had one skinny
cow
as
evening
snacks.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:36:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Ahhhhhh, I probably should have worded that differently ... grow up and be PAID to
play in a big sandbox. G And I bet you still resemble that remark.

Joyce

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:41:16 -0800, Fred wrote:

I resemble that remark (G)

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:05:49 -0600, Joyce wrote:

LOL! I do think that may be why hub likes demolition ... mistakes are very easily
hidden. g That and I tell him that it probably is every little boys dream to
grow up and still be allowed to play in a big sandbox.

Joyce

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:21:41 -0800, Fred wrote:

Demolition, accidently, is my specialty.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:37:37 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I figure that's why there are people in these professions ... they know what
they're doing, they get the job done quicker and usually correctly. Of course, it
helps me that my brother is an electrician ... and other family members are
plumbers (really the only two fields I refuse to mess around with). If I put my
thinking cap on, I realize my building connections are almost unlimited ...
cousins in masonry, architecture, building homes, hubby in excavating and concrete
... possibilities are endless. Not only can we put the houses up, we can tear 'em
down! G

Joyce

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 08:52:20 -0800, Fred wrote:

Sorry you electrical spark turned out to be an old dynamo. But it
sounds as if you got what you paid for - electrical work! (G)

I do remember when friend convinced me I did not want to do the
wiring for the kitchen remodel and to hire professionals. Half day
but what I did not know is that I would be charged the going RATE FOR
EACH OF THE TWO OF THEM!!!! Yikes. But they were fast and good -
ahem, at electricity work! (G)

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:52:11 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I had this running conversation with a friend about this before the guy
showed up. This is the first time I have needed an electrician, being kind
of handy myself. He pronounces it Good. He sounds all "cute" on the phone
so I am having these spinsterish private thoughts about how electricians are
good with shorts and all. So this fellow shows up, and he is about as wide
as he is tall, with the pants showing his behind crack whenever he bends...
He reeks of cigarette smoke, and is missing several teeth, right in the
front. The ones that are left are a cute grey color. He was, However, an
extremely good electrical person. Able to diagnose some of the puzzle
palace problems I have been having here, and fix some, and tell me how we
would fix the others. And totally reasonable. Did not give me a "charge"
in any way (oh she is bad this morning), but altogether a Good deal. I will
have to save those other fantasies for men with (pant pant) hair and knees.

"Fred" wrote in message
news:r1al001h33jo5892n3t4phf4oe193mfvlm@4ax. com...
Ah, the old, why bother connecting it syndrome. I helped a friend
RE-install her phone since they put in the plugs in her remodel and
even did wire it. But did not connect the wires in the basement to
anything. Does he pronounce it "goody" or is he just GOOD (G)

And how good was he?

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:13:12 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Yeah, we figured it out. They put it in, but never connected it to
anything. We did not have time to fix it, after we found it, so he is
coming back. This mans' name, I kid you not, is Mr Goode. Snort.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
You really do live an electrifying life! (gd&r)

So did you figure it out?

I spent the last 20 minutes using the Excel info that the nice folks
here gave me to create a spreadsheet of my WI's since starting.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:38:21 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

ah, sounds like a great day. The electrician and I wandered in the
attic
most of the afternoon trying to figure out why the plug near my tv in
my
bedroom does not work.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I was sublimely surprised. The forecast foretold clouds and
showers.
When I opened the door it clear with a neat crescent moon. The snow
from last week must have been melted by the subsequent rain. This
trail is very popular and when covered with snow, it gets compressed
into ice and then the trail becomes what I affectionately call a
vertical icerink! But it was sunny and ice-free. Nice day. Then
came home and washed the car which still had the grime from the
Sierra
in July and eastern Oregon in Aug plus all the snow grunge from the
last few months.

I usually take a series of vitamins after heavy exercise to
replenish
the water soluable ones that got sweated away.

We shall see if I can hold below 160. I should start using a home
weight in this, ahem, competition since my clothes are a
disadvantage
(go for it Brenda and Lee)...... But I just sucked down mango, and
frango (g). But two hours of strenuous UP should have earned some
of
that food.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:24:47 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I eat leftovers as well. That is what the daily multivitamin is
for


Kudos on the exercise, I wimped out with a mere 30 minutes of
toning
style
weights and exercycle circuits.

You got me this morning 157.5 here. I have noticed that my average
has
stayed right around there for 6 weeks now. HA. Maintenance
success.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sooner than I thought - this very morning on the home scale. And
packed and dressed for a cloudy but maybe dry hike. Aiming for
(depending on ice) 3,400 feet up over 4 miles. Eating breakfast
and
reading here before I head out. It was good and will be repeated
tonight since I made swordfish for more than the one night. The
other
stuff is also left over. I do wonder how much nutrients are lost
in
refrig but NOT microwaved broccoli and cauliflower.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:46:18 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Wow, keep up eating like that and you will be 157 soon. Yum
too.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I'm going to try getting it back down to 157 sometime. We
shall
see.
The swordfish is thawing. I already baked sweetpotatoes the
other
night and I have salad and broc/caul already steamed. I have
not
had
a ms meringue in 3 days but have had one skinny cow as evening
snacks.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:36:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Frozen is a mainstay though.

I read a quote in my ww materials that said frozen veggies are often healthier
than fresh because the fresh ones at the store have been sitting around for a
few days and have lost some of their nutrients, whereas the frozen ones were
frozen right away. Of course if you have your own garden, this is a mute point
:-))

Kathy
WW 1/18/04
Can't wait for first weight in!

I seem to remember being legal for six months or so but not exactly sure
when they changed it. I would vote for non on the ballot, problem in this
state is after a couple of cycles we would either be leaderless or some
wiseguy would change his name to non, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
Very good points, Lee! I have daughters also, and you are right - they
did not
have to register for the military, definitely a double standard. And I
did
totally forget about the cigarettes being legal at 18. This must be
another one
of those areas where our age difference comes into play ... I could drink
beer and
wine legally when I was 19. G The laws were changed a short time after
though,
as I remember my younger brother was legal for a bit - then had it taken
away.
The thing I remember though, is that by it being legalized - drinking was
no
longer as enticing as when we thought we were getting away with something.
G

I still want to see a *none of the above* choice in IL. LOL

Joyce

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:54:57 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

OK you asked for it. I think it is hideous that we live in a society
that
differentiates between men and women in registering, should be both or
neither. As to the adult status, I think it would probably benefit us if
all of these things along with cigarettes and driving were all at the
same
age. I think had I been able to drink when first voting I might have
made
better choices, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
Ya know, I have been asking for that choice for years ... IL seems to
not
understand. I am glad to hear that there is somewhere in the world
that
thinks
like I do. g

And you don't want to get me started on our governments *thinking*. At
18
our
sons and daughters are considered legal adults. Encouraged and
allowed
to vote
towards making decisions as to how they would like to see our
government
run, yet
most pay next to nothing in taxes that these decisions affect. At 18
our
sons are
required to register with the armed forces, can be sent off to war, and
offer
their lives to serve their country. Yet ... (you knew this was coming)
... at the
same age they are considered too immature to be allowed to have an
alcoholic
beverage. I know my thinking may be backwards - but I often feel I am
missing
something in all of this.

Joyce

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:49:28 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

The state that has the best answer here in the states is Nevada, their
ballots carry "none of the above" as a choice, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...
It 's said to be 'more democratic' because everyone's voice will be
heard.
The problem is that people who don't want to vote will will make
what
we
call protest votes, by voting for nonsensical or extremist parties.
we
don't vote for people but always for parties here and everyone has
the
right
to start a political party.)

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
it is odd that it is obligatory but while I don't agree with it I
can
see
why it is done, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...
Funny how these things differ... here the vote is completely and
strictly
anonymous. Back when we voted on paper, any voting document that
was
signed
or had your name or identity on (some elderly people thought you
should
sign
the documents, lol) was considered invalid. Now we vote
electronically
and
still very anonymously.
On the other hand, we are one of the 2 only countries in the
world
where
voting is obligatory, and you get fined if you don't vote :-)
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/104.2/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
295.6/229.7/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds
RAFL 105.3/104.3/96 Kg
232/229.7/212 lbs
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Ah, the food element enters the electorate's decision-making.

Yes, our nonpartisan primary was dumped by the 9th Circuit Fed
courts.
Either we register for a party or cannot vote. The
legislature
is
still trying to work on something including one where two top
candidates, party affiliation notwithstanding would be on the
general
ballot. So that there could be two Democrats or two Rep's on
the
ballot rather than one of each. That would serve the parties
right.
I think in one or two gubernatorial primaries recently, there
would
have been no Republican candidate.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:28:17 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

not for me thanks, I make it a practice to never do any
election
where
I
have to declare, makes my politician parents upset but I
can't
justify
voting where someone else can know my party/preferences, and
besides
am
in
S.IL and would have to go a long way to sneak into someone's
livingroom,
and
they would probably have brownies or cake or cookies... Maybe
I
will
rethink
this... Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
Nothing too shocking. Now cross the state line and "volt"
in
Iowa!

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:53:28 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

assessing the competition??? Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
Ah, the old, why bother connecting it syndrome. I
helped a
friend
RE-install her phone since they put in the plugs in her
remodel
and
even did wire it. But did not connect the wires in the
basement
to
anything. Does he pronounce it "goody" or is he just
GOOD
(G)

And how good was he?

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:13:12 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yeah, we figured it out. They put it in, but never
connected
it
to
anything. We did not have time to fix it, after we
found
it,
so
he
is
coming back. This mans' name, I kid you not, is Mr
Goode.
Snort.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
You really do live an electrifying life! (gd&r)

So did you figure it out?

I spent the last 20 minutes using the Excel info that
the
nice
folks
here gave me to create a spreadsheet of my WI's since
starting.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:38:21 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

ah, sounds like a great day. The electrician and I
wandered
in
the
attic
most of the afternoon trying to figure out why the
plug
near
my
tv
in
my
bedroom does not work.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I was sublimely surprised. The forecast foretold
clouds
and
showers.
When I opened the door it clear with a neat
crescent
moon.
The
snow
from last week must have been melted by the
subsequent
rain.
This
trail is very popular and when covered with snow,
it
gets
compressed
into ice and then the trail becomes what I
affectionately
call
a
vertical icerink! But it was sunny and ice-free.
Nice
day.
Then
came home and washed the car which still had the
grime
from
the
Sierra
in July and eastern Oregon in Aug plus all the
snow
grunge
from
the
last few months.

I usually take a series of vitamins after heavy
exercise
to
replenish
the water soluable ones that got sweated away.

We shall see if I can hold below 160. I should
start
using
a
home
weight in this, ahem, competition since my clothes
are a
disadvantage
(go for it Brenda and Lee)...... But I just sucked
down
mango,
and
frango (g). But two hours of strenuous UP should
have
earned
some
of
that food.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:24:47 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I eat leftovers as well. That is what the daily
multivitamin
is
for


Kudos on the exercise, I wimped out with a mere
30
minutes
of
toning
style
weights and exercycle circuits.

You got me this morning 157.5 here. I have
noticed
that
my
average
has
stayed right around there for 6 weeks now. HA.
Maintenance
success.

"Fred" wrote in
message

.. .
Sooner than I thought - this very morning on
the
home
scale.
And
packed and dressed for a cloudy but maybe dry
hike.
Aiming

for
(depending on ice) 3,400 feet up over 4 miles.
Eating
breakfast
and
reading here before I head out. It was good
and
will
be
repeated
tonight since I made swordfish for more than
the
one
night.
The
other
stuff is also left over. I do wonder how much
nutrients
are
lost
in
refrig but NOT microwaved broccoli and
cauliflower.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:46:18 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Wow, keep up eating like that and you will be
157
soon.
Yum
too.

"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
I'm going to try getting it back down to 157
sometime.
We
shall
see.
The swordfish is thawing. I already baked
sweetpotatoes
the
other
night and I have salad and broc/caul already
steamed.
I
have
not
had
a ms meringue in 3 days but have had one
skinny
cow
as
evening
snacks.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:36:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I don't remember if you ever said how old you were, but sounds like you might be
my brothers age (he is 45) ... he had that same *now you're legal - now you're
not* stuff to go through.

LOL!!! I never thought about the possibility of someone running under the name of
none - what a hoot. Heck, I'd vote for them anyway - gotta love someone with a
sense of humor.

Joyce

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 05:54:20 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I seem to remember being legal for six months or so but not exactly sure
when they changed it. I would vote for non on the ballot, problem in this
state is after a couple of cycles we would either be leaderless or some
wiseguy would change his name to non, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
Very good points, Lee! I have daughters also, and you are right - they
did not
have to register for the military, definitely a double standard. And I
did
totally forget about the cigarettes being legal at 18. This must be
another one
of those areas where our age difference comes into play ... I could drink
beer and
wine legally when I was 19. G The laws were changed a short time after
though,
as I remember my younger brother was legal for a bit - then had it taken
away.
The thing I remember though, is that by it being legalized - drinking was
no
longer as enticing as when we thought we were getting away with something.
G

I still want to see a *none of the above* choice in IL. LOL

Joyce

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:54:57 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

OK you asked for it. I think it is hideous that we live in a society
that
differentiates between men and women in registering, should be both or
neither. As to the adult status, I think it would probably benefit us if
all of these things along with cigarettes and driving were all at the
same
age. I think had I been able to drink when first voting I might have
made
better choices, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
Ya know, I have been asking for that choice for years ... IL seems to
not
understand. I am glad to hear that there is somewhere in the world
that
thinks
like I do. g

And you don't want to get me started on our governments *thinking*. At
18
our
sons and daughters are considered legal adults. Encouraged and
allowed
to vote
towards making decisions as to how they would like to see our
government
run, yet
most pay next to nothing in taxes that these decisions affect. At 18
our
sons are
required to register with the armed forces, can be sent off to war, and
offer
their lives to serve their country. Yet ... (you knew this was coming)
... at the
same age they are considered too immature to be allowed to have an
alcoholic
beverage. I know my thinking may be backwards - but I often feel I am
missing
something in all of this.

Joyce

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:49:28 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

The state that has the best answer here in the states is Nevada, their
ballots carry "none of the above" as a choice, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...
It 's said to be 'more democratic' because everyone's voice will be
heard.
The problem is that people who don't want to vote will will make
what
we
call protest votes, by voting for nonsensical or extremist parties.
we
don't vote for people but always for parties here and everyone has
the
right
to start a political party.)

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
it is odd that it is obligatory but while I don't agree with it I
can
see
why it is done, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...
Funny how these things differ... here the vote is completely and
strictly
anonymous. Back when we voted on paper, any voting document that
was
signed
or had your name or identity on (some elderly people thought you
should
sign
the documents, lol) was considered invalid. Now we vote
electronically
and
still very anonymously.
On the other hand, we are one of the 2 only countries in the
world
where
voting is obligatory, and you get fined if you don't vote :-)
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/104.2/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
295.6/229.7/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds
RAFL 105.3/104.3/96 Kg
232/229.7/212 lbs
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Ah, the food element enters the electorate's decision-making.

Yes, our nonpartisan primary was dumped by the 9th Circuit Fed
courts.
Either we register for a party or cannot vote. The
legislature
is
still trying to work on something including one where two top
candidates, party affiliation notwithstanding would be on the
general
ballot. So that there could be two Democrats or two Rep's on
the
ballot rather than one of each. That would serve the parties
right.
I think in one or two gubernatorial primaries recently, there
would
have been no Republican candidate.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:28:17 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

not for me thanks, I make it a practice to never do any
election
where
I
have to declare, makes my politician parents upset but I
can't
justify
voting where someone else can know my party/preferences, and
besides
am
in
S.IL and would have to go a long way to sneak into someone's
livingroom,
and
they would probably have brownies or cake or cookies... Maybe
I
will
rethink
this... Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
Nothing too shocking. Now cross the state line and "volt"
in
Iowa!

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:53:28 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

assessing the competition??? Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
Ah, the old, why bother connecting it syndrome. I
helped a
friend
RE-install her phone since they put in the plugs in her
remodel
and
even did wire it. But did not connect the wires in the
basement
to
anything. Does he pronounce it "goody" or is he just
GOOD
(G)

And how good was he?

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:13:12 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yeah, we figured it out. They put it in, but never
connected
it
to
anything. We did not have time to fix it, after we
found
it,
so
he
is
coming back. This mans' name, I kid you not, is Mr
Goode.
Snort.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
You really do live an electrifying life! (gd&r)

So did you figure it out?

I spent the last 20 minutes using the Excel info that
the
nice
folks
here gave me to create a spreadsheet of my WI's since
starting.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:38:21 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

ah, sounds like a great day. The electrician and I
wandered
in
the
attic
most of the afternoon trying to figure out why the
plug
near
my
tv
in
my
bedroom does not work.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I was sublimely surprised. The forecast foretold
clouds
and
showers.
When I opened the door it clear with a neat
crescent
moon.
The
snow
from last week must have been melted by the
subsequent
rain.
This
trail is very popular and when covered with snow,
it
gets
compressed
into ice and then the trail becomes what I
affectionately
call
a
vertical icerink! But it was sunny and ice-free.
Nice
day.
Then
came home and washed the car which still had the
grime
from
the
Sierra
in July and eastern Oregon in Aug plus all the
snow
grunge
from
the
last few months.

I usually take a series of vitamins after heavy
exercise
to
replenish
the water soluable ones that got sweated away.

We shall see if I can hold below 160. I should
start
using
a
home
weight in this, ahem, competition since my clothes
are a
disadvantage
(go for it Brenda and Lee)...... But I just sucked
down
mango,
and
frango (g). But two hours of strenuous UP should
have
earned
some
of
that food.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:24:47 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I eat leftovers as well. That is what the daily
multivitamin
is
for


Kudos on the exercise, I wimped out with a mere
30
minutes
of
toning
style
weights and exercycle circuits.

You got me this morning 157.5 here. I have
noticed
that
my
average
has
stayed right around there for 6 weeks now. HA.
Maintenance
success.

"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
Sooner than I thought - this very morning on
the
home
scale.
And
packed and dressed for a cloudy but maybe dry
hike.
Aiming

for
(depending on ice) 3,400 feet up over 4 miles.
Eating
breakfast
and
reading here before I head out. It was good
and
will
be
repeated
tonight since I made swordfish for more than
the
one
night.
The
other
stuff is also left over. I do wonder how much
nutrients
are
lost
in
refrig but NOT microwaved broccoli and
cauliflower.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:46:18 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Wow, keep up eating like that and you will be
157
soon.
Yum
too.

"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
I'm going to try getting it back down to 157
sometime.
We
shall
see.
The swordfish is thawing. I already baked
sweetpotatoes
the
other
night and I have salad and broc/caul already
steamed.
I
have
not
had
a ms meringue in 3 days but have had one
skinny
cow
as
evening
snacks.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:36:04 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

will be 45 in July, I would vote for them as we could use some humor around
our politics, we have had enough evil and puppets, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
...
I don't remember if you ever said how old you were, but sounds like you
might be
my brothers age (he is 45) ... he had that same *now you're legal - now
you're
not* stuff to go through.

LOL!!! I never thought about the possibility of someone running under the
name of
none - what a hoot. Heck, I'd vote for them anyway - gotta love someone
with a
sense of humor.

Joyce

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 05:54:20 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

I seem to remember being legal for six months or so but not exactly sure
when they changed it. I would vote for non on the ballot, problem in
this
state is after a couple of cycles we would either be leaderless or some
wiseguy would change his name to non, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
Very good points, Lee! I have daughters also, and you are right - they
did not
have to register for the military, definitely a double standard. And I
did
totally forget about the cigarettes being legal at 18. This must be
another one
of those areas where our age difference comes into play ... I could
drink
beer and
wine legally when I was 19. G The laws were changed a short time
after
though,
as I remember my younger brother was legal for a bit - then had it
taken
away.
The thing I remember though, is that by it being legalized - drinking
was
no
longer as enticing as when we thought we were getting away with
something.
G

I still want to see a *none of the above* choice in IL. LOL

Joyce

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:54:57 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

OK you asked for it. I think it is hideous that we live in a society
that
differentiates between men and women in registering, should be both or
neither. As to the adult status, I think it would probably benefit us
if
all of these things along with cigarettes and driving were all at the
same
age. I think had I been able to drink when first voting I might have
made
better choices, Lee
Joyce wrote in message
.. .
Ya know, I have been asking for that choice for years ... IL seems
to
not
understand. I am glad to hear that there is somewhere in the world
that
thinks
like I do. g

And you don't want to get me started on our governments *thinking*.
At
18
our
sons and daughters are considered legal adults. Encouraged and
allowed
to vote
towards making decisions as to how they would like to see our
government
run, yet
most pay next to nothing in taxes that these decisions affect. At
18
our
sons are
required to register with the armed forces, can be sent off to war,
and
offer
their lives to serve their country. Yet ... (you knew this was
coming)
... at the
same age they are considered too immature to be allowed to have an
alcoholic
beverage. I know my thinking may be backwards - but I often feel I
am
missing
something in all of this.

Joyce

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:49:28 -0600, "Miss Violette"

wrote:

The state that has the best answer here in the states is Nevada,
their
ballots carry "none of the above" as a choice, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...
It 's said to be 'more democratic' because everyone's voice will
be
heard.
The problem is that people who don't want to vote will will make
what
we
call protest votes, by voting for nonsensical or extremist
parties.
we
don't vote for people but always for parties here and everyone
has
the
right
to start a political party.)

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
it is odd that it is obligatory but while I don't agree with it
I
can
see
why it is done, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...
Funny how these things differ... here the vote is completely
and
strictly
anonymous. Back when we voted on paper, any voting document
that
was
signed
or had your name or identity on (some elderly people thought
you
should
sign
the documents, lol) was considered invalid. Now we vote
electronically
and
still very anonymously.
On the other hand, we are one of the 2 only countries in the
world
where
voting is obligatory, and you get fined if you don't vote :-)
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/104.2/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
295.6/229.7/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds
RAFL 105.3/104.3/96 Kg
232/229.7/212 lbs
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Ah, the food element enters the electorate's
decision-making.

Yes, our nonpartisan primary was dumped by the 9th Circuit
Fed
courts.
Either we register for a party or cannot vote. The
legislature
is
still trying to work on something including one where two
top
candidates, party affiliation notwithstanding would be on
the
general
ballot. So that there could be two Democrats or two Rep's
on
the
ballot rather than one of each. That would serve the
parties
right.
I think in one or two gubernatorial primaries recently,
there
would
have been no Republican candidate.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:28:17 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

not for me thanks, I make it a practice to never do any
election
where
I
have to declare, makes my politician parents upset but I
can't
justify
voting where someone else can know my party/preferences,
and
besides
am
in
S.IL and would have to go a long way to sneak into
someone's
livingroom,
and
they would probably have brownies or cake or cookies...
Maybe
I
will
rethink
this... Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
Nothing too shocking. Now cross the state line and
"volt"
in
Iowa!

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:53:28 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

assessing the competition??? Lee
Fred wrote in message
.. .
Ah, the old, why bother connecting it syndrome. I
helped a
friend
RE-install her phone since they put in the plugs in
her
remodel
and
even did wire it. But did not connect the wires in
the
basement
to
anything. Does he pronounce it "goody" or is he
just
GOOD
(G)

And how good was he?

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:13:12 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yeah, we figured it out. They put it in, but never
connected
it
to
anything. We did not have time to fix it, after we
found
it,
so
he
is
coming back. This mans' name, I kid you not, is Mr
Goode.
Snort.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
You really do live an electrifying life! (gd&r)

So did you figure it out?

I spent the last 20 minutes using the Excel info
that
the
nice
folks
here gave me to create a spreadsheet of my WI's
since
starting.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:38:21 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

ah, sounds like a great day. The electrician and
I
wandered
in
the
attic
most of the afternoon trying to figure out why
the
plug
near
my
tv
in
my
bedroom does not work.


"Fred" wrote in
message

.. .
I was sublimely surprised. The forecast
foretold
clouds
and
showers.
When I opened the door it clear with a neat
crescent
moon.
The
snow
from last week must have been melted by the
subsequent
rain.
This
trail is very popular and when covered with
snow,
it
gets
compressed
into ice and then the trail becomes what I
affectionately
call
a
vertical icerink! But it was sunny and
ice-free.
Nice
day.
Then
came home and washed the car which still had
the
grime
from
the
Sierra
in July and eastern Oregon in Aug plus all the
snow
grunge
from
the
last few months.

I usually take a series of vitamins after heavy
exercise
to
replenish
the water soluable ones that got sweated away.

We shall see if I can hold below 160. I should
start
using
a
home
weight in this, ahem, competition since my
clothes
are a
disadvantage
(go for it Brenda and Lee)...... But I just
sucked
down
mango,
and
frango (g). But two hours of strenuous UP
should
have
earned
some
of
that food.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:24:47 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I eat leftovers as well. That is what the
daily
multivitamin
is
for


Kudos on the exercise, I wimped out with a
mere
30
minutes
of
toning
style
weights and exercycle circuits.

You got me this morning 157.5 here. I have
noticed
that
my
average
has
stayed right around there for 6 weeks now.
HA.
Maintenance
success.

"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
Sooner than I thought - this very morning on
the
home
scale.
And
packed and dressed for a cloudy but maybe
dry
hike.
Aiming

for
(depending on ice) 3,400 feet up over 4
miles.
Eating
breakfast
and
reading here before I head out. It was good
and
will
be
repeated
tonight since I made swordfish for more than
the
one
night.
The
other
stuff is also left over. I do wonder how
much
nutrients
are
lost
in
refrig but NOT microwaved broccoli and
cauliflower.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:46:18 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Wow, keep up eating like that and you will
be
157
soon.
Yum
too.

"Fred" wrote in
message

. ..
I'm going to try getting it back down to
157
sometime.
We
shall
see.
The swordfish is thawing. I already
baked
sweetpotatoes
the
other
night and I have salad and broc/caul
already
steamed.
I
have
not
had
a ms meringue in 3 days but have had one
skinny
cow
as
evening
snacks.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:36:04 GMT,
"Lesanne"

wrote: